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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by andrewbaba44: 11:52am On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
BuLi defenders get unfair criticism, IMO. The league has a way of making good defenders look bad and average attackers look good. Especially if you are defending in a team that plays on the front foot. Upamecano has been very good for Bayern but there are instances when the nature of the BuLi game exposes his weaknesses. Upamecano defending in transition is a nightmare scenario. God help him if the attacker is fast and Black grin That one na O ti lo. But see the same Upa for France, the difference is clear.

Even your Gbaraujo grin go hear am, if e come Germany

Put Kenneth omeruo at Bayern and you will still win the league ,but yeah the league makes good defenders looks bad

Araujo will easily be the best CB in bundesliga
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 12:08pm On Jun 25, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Put Kenneth omeruo at Bayern and you will still win the league ,but yeah the league makes good defenders looks bad

Araujo will easily be the best CB in bundesliga
Gbaraujo wey no better pass Upamecano, not to even talk of Lucas and De Ligt? Dey deceive yourself.

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by andrewbaba44: 12:20pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
Gbaraujo wey no better pass Upamecano, not to even talk of Lucas and De Ligt? Dey deceive yourself.

Mentioning upamecano the most useless defender in the world or that guy that couldn’t cut it at juve ,you are a comedian

You are known to over pay for mid defenders

Dude rest on this one ,you Dey gba much this days because you hate anything Barcelona

Person go Dey in his right frame of mind talk say upamecano better pass araujo and bundesliga makes good defenders look bad grin

Man mentioned upamecano πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by BlaqFaze: 12:36pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
Gbaraujo wey no better pass Upamecano, not to even talk of Lucas and De Ligt? Dey deceive yourself.
upamecano fit tear you slap for this thing wey you talk

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by BlaqFaze: 12:38pm On Jun 25, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Mentioning upamecano the most useless defender in the world or that guy that couldn’t cut it at juve ,you are a comedian

You are known to over pay for mid defenders

Dude rest on this one ,you Dey gba much this days because you hate anything Barcelona

Person go Dey in his right frame of mind talk say upamecano better pass araujo and bundesliga makes good defenders look bad grin

Man mentioned upamecano πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
lol...UpaMaguire πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by andrewbaba44: 12:50pm On Jun 25, 2023
BlaqFaze:
lol...UpaMaguire πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Anytime dude hears Barca players he is always biased

I will even understand de ligt
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Ballzproblem2: 1:26pm On Jun 25, 2023
Bayern is a mess and they don't know it yet ,no signing since June ,all their top targets (rice,osihmen,kolo muani,caicedo),non have they achieved, instead I am seeing names like kalvin Phillips being linked to them
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 1:29pm On Jun 25, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Mentioning upamecano the most useless defender in the world or that guy that couldn’t cut it at juve ,you are a comedian

You are known to over pay for mid defenders

Dude rest on this one ,you Dey gba much this days because you hate anything Barcelona

Person go Dey in his right frame of mind talk say upamecano better pass araujo and bundesliga makes good defenders look bad grin

Man mentioned upamecano πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
I never said Upa was better, even though he may very well be. They are on the same level to me. Na the errors wey just dey hold Upa back. He's definitely better than your Kundus and Muslimsen and would start at Barca.

Araujo still dey Barca B when De Ligt was leading his team to CL semis, clearing individual awards and breaking records in the process. His time at Juve was only a bump in the road. He never should have moved there in the first place. Well, the experience has made him stronger and he's cutting it at Bayern, a bigger club while Juve keep floundering. Bear in mind, he's only 23.

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by andrewbaba44: 1:37pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
I never said Upa was better, even though he may very well be. They are on the same level to me. Na the errors wey just dey hold Upa back. He's definitely better than your Kundus and Muslimsen and would start at Barca.

Araujo still dey Barca B when De Ligt was leading his team to CL semis, clearing individual awards and breaking records in the process. His time at Juve was only a bump in the road. He never should have moved there in the first place. Well, the experience has made him stronger and he's cutting it at Bayern, a bigger club while Juve keep floundering. Bear in mind, he's only 23.

Araujo Dey Barca B when de ligt Dey start for Ajax and leading his team to the ucl semis ,but we know who is the better CB at the moment grin

Start for Barca una,na the errors make am be otu ,na errors send lenglet go spurs despite the fact that he was sold in his first season at Barca

After being purchased for huge amount ,If you cannot send one of finished chellini or bonucci to the bench why should I take you serious ?

Yeah he is cutting it at a simple league ,looking better at the so called league that makes defender looks bad grin
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 1:38pm On Jun 25, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
Bayern is a mess and they don't know it yet ,no signing since June ,all their top targets (rice,osihmen,kolo muani,caicedo),non have they achieved, instead I am seeing names like kalvin Phillips being linked to them
LOL. We move like ninjas. We no dey make noise. Laimer and Guerreiro on free transfers, Kim is on his way from Napoli. The Rice and Caicedo links were nothing but rumors. We are still working on getting a striker. Whether na Osimhen or Kolo Muani, I no know.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 1:58pm On Jun 25, 2023
andrewbaba44:


Araujo Dey Barca B when de ligt Dey start for Ajax and leading his team to the ucl semis ,but we know who is the better CB at the moment grin

Start for Barca una,na the errors make am be otu ,na errors send lenglet go spurs despite the fact that he was sold in his first season at Barca

After being purchased for huge amount ,If you cannot send one of finished chellini or bonucci to the bench why should I take you serious ?

Yeah he is cutting it at a simple league ,looking better at the so called league that makes defender looks bad grin
Better defender wey never play for knockout round for CL grin He should keep winning the 'I stopped Vinicius' trophy while others test themselves at the highest levels of European football.

You dey mention Lenglet for Upa side? SMH. Upa is a starter for two of the best teams in world football. Let that sink in. DeLigt was a starter at Juve, I don't know where you got your info from.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by andrewbaba44: 2:06pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
Better defender wey never play for knockout round for CL grin He should keep winning the 'I stopped Vinicius' trophy while others test themselves at the highest levels of European football.

You dey mention Lenglet for Upa side? SMH. Upa is a starter for two of the best teams in world football. Let that sink in. DeLigt was a starter at Juve, I don't know where you got your info from.

The last time I checked none of upamecano or de ligt have won the ucl

Since you celebrate mid performance ,congratulations on winning the I made it to the knock stage trophy grin

You almost bottled bundesliga because of those useless defenders and you get mouth to talk ?

Na Dortmund I blame

Araujo helped Barca win 2 trophies this season ,same can’t be said of your defenders ,oh sorry they helped you win the league for the 11th season on a roll ,even with kenneth omeruo and Calvin bassey you will still win that league

Ogun kill Dortmund grin

Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 3:03pm On Jun 25, 2023
andrewbaba44:


The last time I checked none of upamecano or de ligt have won the ucl

Since you celebrate mid performance ,congratulations on winning the I made it to the knock stage trophy grin

You almost bottled bundesliga because of those useless defenders and you get mouth to talk ?

Na Dortmund I blame

Araujo helped Barca win 2 trophies this season ,same can’t be said of your defenders ,oh sorry they helped you win the league for the 11th season on a roll ,even with kenneth omeruo and Calvin bassey you will still win that league

Ogun kill Dortmund grin
Last time I checked Upa and De Ligt have not led Bayern crashing out of the CL group stages back-to-back. When will Araujo play a Ro16 CL game, never mind SF? A player whose only claim to fame is "I stopped Vinicius" grin When he starts in a WC final or makes a Fifpro XI, abeg wake me up.

Upa and DeLigt were the reasons for us almost bottling the league, yet they made Bundesliga TOTY in one of our worst seasons. Just shattap! The same boys took turns delivering defensive masterclasses against your useless club last season. You better kneel when typing their names.

You should be thanking Dortmund for sparing you the anguish of facing your tormentors-in-chief again. A 3rd straight exit into Europa grin

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by andrewbaba44: 3:24pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
Last time I checked Upa and De Ligt have not led Bayern crashing out of the CL group stages back-to-back. When will Araujo play a Ro16 CL game, never mind SF? A player whose only claim to fame is "I stopped Vinicius" grin When he starts in a WC final or makes a Fifpro XI, abeg wake me up.

Upa and DeLigt were the reasons for us almost bottling the league, yet they made Bundesliga TOTY in one of our worst seasons. Just shattap! The same boys took turns delivering defensive masterclasses against your useless club last season. You better kneel when typing their names.

You should be thanking Dortmund for sparing you the anguish of facing your tormentors-in-chief again. A 3rd straight exit into Europa grin

You think you will win Barca this time cheesy cheesy

Mind you araujo didn’t play the ucl group stage ,he played only 1 game ,we lost almost all our CB for most of the games

If you like type newspaper ,araujo better pass all una defenders

Araujo is just a defender doing his job ,nothing consign am if he stopped vini or not ,he hardly speaks about vini ,vini is actually the one that called araujo the hardest defender he played against ,he is not of the most loved Barca player after pedri by even Madrid fans ,but continue your agenda against am because you parade bums

Why won’t Upa and de ligt make the bundesliga team of the season in a league called Bayernliga grin

Shame suppose catch you for that statement ,the bundesliga is just Bayern and no one else ,but here you are celebrating bums like ukpacannot defend and 80 million de ligt making team of the season ,if both cannot make team of the season na to close down that una league grin
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 4:54pm On Jun 25, 2023
andrewbaba44:


You think you will win Barca this time cheesy cheesy

Mind you araujo didn’t play the ucl group stage ,he played only 1 game ,we lost almost all our CB for most of the games

If you like type newspaper ,araujo better pass all una defenders

Araujo is just a defender doing his job ,nothing consign am if he stopped vini or not ,he hardly speaks about vini ,vini is actually the one that called araujo the hardest defender he played against ,he is not of the most loved Barca player after pedri by even Madrid fans ,but continue your agenda against am because you parade bums

Why won’t Upa and de ligt make the bundesliga team of the season in a league called Bayernliga grin

Shame suppose catch you for that statement ,the bundesliga is just Bayern and no one else ,but here you are celebrating bums like ukpacannot defend and 80 million de ligt making team of the season ,if both cannot make team of the season na to close down that una league grin
"You won't beat us this time" grin No be so una dey always talk ever since you chop 8-2. We own your souls, bro! Anytime you come, you go collect.

You mean Araujo has played only one CL game these last two years? grin Wow! Excuses, excuses. . You said Upa and De Lift were useless, I countered your claim with their TOTY selection. Now e don turn Bayernliga. Next time, don't cap carelessly.

Araujo has done nothing to be rated over De Ligt and Upa. Maybe if he starts playing UCL knockout football, the story will be different grin
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Culer: 5:16pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
"You won't beat us this time" grin No be so una dey always talk ever since you chop 8-2. We own your souls, bro! Anytime you come, you go collect.

You mean Araujo has played only one CL game these last two years? grin Wow! Excuses, excuses. . You said Upa and De Lift were useless, I countered your claim with their TOTY selection. Now e don turn Bayernliga. Next time, don't cap carelessly.

Araujo has done nothing to be rated over De Ligt and Upa. Maybe if he starts playing UCL knockout football, the story will be different grin
Lol. You dey cap careless. Upacanoe better than araujo how? In what world? Even de ligt no better pass araujo, talkless Upacanoe.
How Una take dey watch football sef
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 5:22pm On Jun 25, 2023
Culer:
Lol. You dey cap careless. Upacanoe better than araujo how? In what world? Even de ligt no better pass araujo, talkless Upacanoe.
How Una take dey watch football sef
I said they were on the same level, with Upa's errors holding him back. De Ligt is better than Upa, and by extension Araujo.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by andrewbaba44: 5:34pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
"You won't beat us this time" grin No be so una dey always talk ever since you chop 8-2. We own your souls, bro! Anytime you come, you go collect.

You mean Araujo has played only one CL game these last two years? grin Wow! Excuses, excuses. . You said Upa and De Lift were useless, I countered your claim with their TOTY selection. Now e don turn Bayernliga. Next time, don't cap carelessly.

Araujo has done nothing to be rated over De Ligt and Upa. Maybe if he starts playing UCL knockout football, the story will be different grin

I am not world football who rates araujo ahead of your bums

Stop forcing it bro ,no be me tell your league to parade bums

Even Bellingham is winning bundesliga player of the season ,that should show you how poor your team is ,since your atrack didn’t score much this season why can’t they give any of your useless defenders player of the season grin

Winning Barca is useless this season ,na so you win everybody for group yet you no smell ucl final’s ahead of inter

Stop forcing rivalry ,go and chat with Union Berlin and co who all suck Bayern dick for a living πŸ˜›
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Culer: 6:00pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
I said they were on the same level, with Upa's errors holding him back. De Ligt is better than Upa, and by extension Araujo.
lol. Araujo vs de ligt I can agree, but Upacanoe? Lailai he's no match.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Ballzproblem2: 8:18pm On Jun 25, 2023
pkasso:
LOL. We move like ninjas. We no dey make noise. Laimer and Guerreiro on free transfers, Kim is on his way from Napoli. The Rice and Caicedo links were nothing but rumors. We are still working on getting a striker. Whether na Osimhen or Kolo Muani, I no know.
signing defenders when your attack is a a mess LMAO
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by andrewbaba44: 9:25pm On Jun 25, 2023
Culer:
lol. Araujo vs de ligt I can agree, but Upacanoe? Lailai he's no match.

Guy man say na small error be upamecano problem,as if no be error pursue lenglet commot for Barca grin
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by A40(m): 5:24pm On Jul 06, 2023
Welcome Kim Min Jae. Likely replacement for Lucas Hernandez (who I was never a fan of to begin with) the injury history and price tag never made sense to me

Let's hope he and De Ligt can form a partnership and send Upamenonsense to the bench
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 2:58pm On Jul 07, 2023
A40:
Welcome Kim Min Jae. Likely replacement for Lucas Hernandez (who I was never a fan of to begin with) the injury history and price tag never made sense to me

Let's hope he and De Ligt can form a partnership and send Upamenonsense to the bench
I have my doubts about Kim but I will definitely be supporting him all the way. I'm sad Lucas is leaving though. Dude was a monster when fit. Na this injury curse gan gan be the wahala. A partnership of him and De Ligt would have defined an era at Bayern. Too bad, it won't be happening. Wish him the best at PSG.

BTW, shey Pavard no wan go again ni? I'm not ready to watch that guy play RB for us again next season.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 11:27pm On Jul 07, 2023
pkasso:
I have my doubts about Kim but I will definitely be supporting him all the way. I'm sad Lucas is leaving though. Dude was a monster when fit. Na this injury curse gan gan be the wahala. A partnership of him and De Ligt would have defined an era at Bayern. Too bad, it won't be happening. Wish him the best at PSG.

BTW, shey Pavard no wan go again ni? I'm not ready to watch that guy play RB for us again next season.
Pavard probably depends on how succesful Tuchel is with Kyle Walker, I dont understand Tuchel b0ner on those useless EPL players that usually flop
With guys like Pavard and their overt tantrums don reduce his transfer fee

Na those kain players Juventus will come with 5M bid to be paid over 10yrs as we have very little leverage

Our RB is Mazroui We need a backup

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 12:30am On Jul 08, 2023
raumdeuter:

Pavard probably depends on how succesful Tuchel is with Kyle Walker, I dont understand Tuchel b0ner on those useless EPL players that usually flop
With guys like Pavard and their overt tantrums don reduce his transfer fee

Na those kain players Juventus will come with 5M bid to be paid over 10yrs as we have very little leverage

Our RB is Mazroui We need a backup
LOL. Your distaste for EPL players is legendary. Walker is actually one of my fave players in world football so I don't mind. He is a fierce competitor with plenty of experience and is still in top shape. His interpretation of that deep-and-narrow RB role is also better than Pavard's. I think he can be useful for a year or two.

Na Stanisic e just dey pain me for. That boy deserves more chances than he gets. Very dependable lad. His versatility also reminds me of a certain someone. We should give our youngsters more opportunities this coming season. Musiala has shown us the possibilities. Tel should be next in line.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 12:37am On Jul 08, 2023
pkasso:
LOL. Your distaste for EPL players is legendary. Walker is actually one of my fave players in world football so I don't mind. He is a fierce competitor with plenty of experience and is still in top shape. His interpretation of that deep-and-narrow RB role is also better than Pavard's. I think he can be useful for a year or two.

Na Stanisic e just dey pain me for. That boy deserves more chances than he gets. Very dependable lad. His versatility also reminds me of a certain someone. We should give our youngsters more opportunities this coming season. Musiala has shown us the possibilities. Tel should be next in line.


Walker depends a lot on his physical attributes and he is 33yrs abi? Even Pep don dey plan for life after Walker. No be we he go dey dump players give

I actually don't mind Stanisic deputizing Mazraoui

Also we need to sort out the billions of CMs we have from Goretzka Gravenberch Laimer, Sabitzer and with Tuchel planning to use Kimmich at 8 and get a new DM then we are basically having 5 players for 1 position

We have AM - Musiala/Muller
2 wingers between Sane, Coman, Gnabry and hopefully someone in Saudi buys egbon adugbo Mane for our hand we fit get a younger player to backup our wing options

That striker thing, If we must deal with Man City, Instead of Walker then lets kuku go for Julian Alvarez as all the other options in the market get K-leg

Between Stanisic Upa Deligt Kim we suppose field 1 RB and 2 CB

Phonzie sef don begin misbehave, His agent said the sacking of Brazzo might affect his extension
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by A40(m): 4:15am On Jul 08, 2023
pkasso:
I have my doubts about Kim but I will definitely be supporting him all the way. I'm sad Lucas is leaving though. Dude was a monster when fit. Na this injury curse gan gan be the wahala. A partnership of him and De Ligt would have defined an era at Bayern. Too bad, it won't be happening. Wish him the best at PSG.

BTW, shey Pavard no wan go again ni? I'm not ready to watch that guy play RB for us again next season.
I don't really rate Lucas like that, never did.

His price tag did not help but he played nothing close to that level. He wasn't even an undisputed starter.

We have wasted a lot of money on that defense. I don't know who does the scouting but they have done a terrible job

Only one defense. Pavard and Upamenonsense. God help us all
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 5:13am On Jul 08, 2023
A40:
I don't really rate Lucas like that, never did.

His price tag did not help but he played nothing close to that level. He wasn't even an undisputed starter.

We have wasted a lot of money on that defense. I don't know who does the scouting but they have done a terrible job

Only one defense. Pavard and Upamenonsense. God help us all
Lucas was very good whenever he played for us. He wasn't an undisputed starter, i agree. He had a serious injury in his first season and missed the second half of the season. Under Flick, in his second season specifically, he didn't get enough game time because there was the issue of playing 2 left-footed CBs and Flick wouldn't drop Alaba even when he was playing rubbish. But I think after Flick left, he was a regular bar his injuries which were frequent. I still remember his performance vs away to PSG in 2021. Top level defending. Lucas is one of very few players who make defending a joy to watch. I fit pay good money just to watch this guy tackle.

I can still live with Pavard at CB but you see that RB ehn na no-no. He is beyond mid.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by AdisaOwala: 6:09am On Jul 08, 2023
raumdeuter:

Pavard probably depends on how succesful Tuchel is with Kyle Walker, I dont understand Tuchel b0ner on those useless EPL players that usually flop
With guys like Pavard and their overt tantrums don reduce his transfer fee

Na those kain players Juventus will come with 5M bid to be paid over 10yrs as we have very little leverage

Our RB is Mazroui We need a backup

But your prick is also rising for Harry Kane na..abi no be you dey defend am for one thread of recent?
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 7:13am On Jul 08, 2023
AdisaOwala:


But your prick is also rising for Harry Kane na..abi no be you dey defend am for one thread of recent?

Those PL guys can work in a PL team they obviously dont work in Bayern

We saw how Mane and Cancelo flopped hard after making EPL team of the season

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 7:46am On Jul 08, 2023
@raumdeuter
Today's Walker is not the same as the marauding speedster version of his early years and hasn't had to be for some time now. His role has evolved into something different. He doesn't have to get up and down the pitch like before but even at 33, his conditioning is crazy. Did you see how he kept up with Vinicius in their battles over the last two seasons? His 1v1 game is still one of the best around and his recovery pace is mad. Not to mention his possession play is levels above Pavard's.

Rico Lewis is an exciting prospect and a transition makes plenty of sense now. That one no mean say Walker don finish.

I personally think we should forget this search for a natural 6 and look for solutions elsewhere. There are not many destroyer 6's around and the quality ones are even fewer. They don't make them like they used to. What we have these days are mostly 8's masquerading as 6's. Rice would have been perfect but he's gone to Arsenal. Unless we wan settle for the likes of Palhinha, Onana and E. Alvarez. Or abi make we try Upa for DM ni? grin

The overabundance of 8's on our team roster says a lot about our recruitment. The Laimer case makes it funnier when you consider the fact that all those involved in his signing are no longer at the club. Now Tuchel has to find some use for him in an already choked midfield.

Man City are not selling Alvarez to us. I don make my peace with that. Ehen, why can't we even scout for talents in South America? Make we sef poach our own starboy from that side. Or are we still haunted by that Breno deal?

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