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Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by grandstar(m): 10:06pm On Jul 08, 2023 |
Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed Tinubu: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/07/fuel-subsidy-removal-what-courage-really-possessed-tinubu-by-olu-fasan/ 3 Likes |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by grandstar(m): 10:17pm On Jul 08, 2023 |
Unfortunately for Olu Fasan, he got torn to pieces by commenters in the Vanguard newspaper. The article made absolutely no sense and he sounded partisan and naïve. As an economist, fully aware of what Nigeria or Nigerians are, come out to condemn the president for having the courage to discontinue petrol subsidies within a day. Had he waited, of dithered, opponents of the subsidy removal would have gathered enough strength to frustrate any removal. His statement that he runs a minority government is also absurd. APC controls both houses and that's what matters in Nigeria and not really how many votes he won. Was it Peter Obi who had only the 25% voters threshold in 16 states, came third and would have been the weakest in both houses have the power to carry out tough reforms. Also, what does he mean prosecute the fuel subsidy cabals? This is Nigeria. Such probes gets nowhere. What's important is that the subsidy is gone. 7 Likes |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by NwaNimo1(m): 10:20pm On Jul 08, 2023 |
Tinubu ffced up.........see inflation right now! 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Toks2008(m): 10:29pm On Jul 08, 2023 |
Very apt. He was indeed possessed by a demonic totalitarian spirit. No true demicatically elected president will do what Tinubu did. To think that in 2012 he was against the removal in one swoop. These were Tinubu exact words in 2012 when Jonathan tried to remove subsidy. "It must be on calibrated phrases, on which the promised gains are mea- sured and confirmed before moving to the next phase of removal. Government must modify the sudden and complete removal of the subsidy. Elther we restore the subsidy or use the funds for other social purposes," If we are to use the funds for other programmes, these programmes shall be placed on parallel track with the subsidy." Tinubu counselled in a special statement he cap- tioned, "Removal of oil subsidy-Presi dent Jonathan breaks social contract with the people' and which he personally signed. So indeed he was possessed by a demon for him to do the exact opposite of what he advised. 3 Likes
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Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by otipoju(m): 12:07am On Jul 09, 2023 |
Una never see something. Una go vote tax collector for President. His greed is second to none. They will continue to tax and tax everything. You think say IGR na joke? Na their speciality be that. 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Kukutenla: 12:29am On Jul 09, 2023 |
In other words, Nigerians are suffering from a Presidential mis-speak!! 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Kukutenla: 12:51am On Jul 09, 2023 |
grandstar:The commenters are Agbado bats. What he means by minority govt is in the context of the fact that overwhelming majority voted against the ruling party. That's a repudiation of the eight years APC has spent in govt. The truth is the country is still hurting from that forgettable eight years such that even the SW wing of APC are sparing no blushes in calling the regime names. So to introduce subsidy removal in that context is not only callous but as thoughtless as Rehoboam's speech that ended the union of Israel and Judah. That said, even the World Bank which has been the poster boy of such reforms in developing countries from the 80s has come out to criticize the policy, Let me mention the obvious cluelessness of where to go next after subsidy removal and floating(devalue in real terms) the naira. I remember an article in 2021 or thereabouts which asked what would be next when Osinbajo then VP raised the need to devalue the naira. We're at that point now. And there seem to be no idea in the room except waiting for manna from heaven in the form of FDI else, we simply die here. I already highlighted the problem with FDI in a thread I opened, which is that unlike 1999, the rest of Africa, especially the leading lights are not in the mood to kowtow to Western imperialists in the guise of chasing FDI, judging from the last outing in France. Secondly, FDI does not necessarily mean development in real terms. 1999 again is a prime example. Economic growth, yes! As the numbers will start to look up and look good but all round development, the type we really dream of to solve our perennial problems in power, transport, trade, education, health and technological innovation may remain elusive. So we're back at the same question asked Osinbajo then, what next? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by grandstar(m): 1:34am On Jul 09, 2023 |
Kukutenla: I don't see anything wrong with the way the subsidy was removed or the Naira floated. Waiting for the "best time" or "best execution" won't get anywhere. His courageous actions have been rewarded on the stock exchange. You're correct. The economy is in a total mess, with $12b worth of unmet dollar fx demands for instance. An economist suggested the country enter into an IMF agreement. They would provide the necessary balance of payment support. Nigeria will never go that route, which actually would actually have been less painful. An economist here said the future would depend on 3 things: 1. Who is appointed as the CBN governor. 2. Who is appointed as finance minister. 3. How committed the present government is to a clean and transparent privatisation programme and sale or commercialization of any government parastatal. For the first 2, I feel the government can get it right. For the 3rd, I see at best a 70% pass mark. There's bound to be some hanky-panky for bids for oil blocks for instance. I don't know why I see one or two actors in this government going home with an oil block or 2. One policy the government must introduce is a cut in the company tax rate to 15% or less. This would not only encourage local and foreign investment, but improve compliance and raise more revenues, rather than less. Low corporate taxes were Ireland and Hong Kong's success secrets and many central European countries have gone that route and it is transforming these countries. 5 Likes |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by CodeTemplar: 4:40pm On Jul 09, 2023 |
Kukutenla:So on point! FDI will make indices look good then finally they repatriate their profit when you are dry and leave your drier suddenly. That's why as critical of Dangote as I am, I prefer a man who has no where else to go with his profit than one who will eventually go away with it. The main gain of FDI is local job creation associated with local production. That's why I think Government should be involved in business and only maintain substantial stakes in businesses run by cost efficient and capable hands. Like Dangote refinery. Imagine a 40 or 50 percent stake and the forex it will put directly in govt hand as against begging Dangote to sell cheap forex in the future as we saw Emefiele do some months ago. Same emefiele supervised unconditional flow of cheap forex to Dangote, a private businessman. What we have today is a govt just tampering the with production and waiting for manna from heaven in form of FDI. The whites are not God or gods over us and have their own huge challenges so are less likely to come to a lawless terrorist defending territorial entity like Nigeria to make some little profit whose repatriation isn't even guaranteed because we need the forex to import basics. Until the govt makes production attractive in cost, ease, security and more, we are just practicing textbook fantasies of economics and aggressively regressing albeit unknowingly. |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by CodeTemplar: 4:52pm On Jul 09, 2023 |
grandstar:One thing wrong with the naira floating is the pressure leisurely imports will put on essential imports. Hair extention, wines, fancy gadgets importers will start competing for forex with farm and industry machinery/equipment importers. While the importers of leisurely goods have right to do so, I don't think it is wise to allow that without heavily taxing such imports to discourage end users from keeping up the demand of such GDP-shrinking imports. Petrol subsidy could have been better phased out by building industrial cities like Eyimba example in abia around cheap power plants whose output cannot end up in neighbouring countries by mistake or being used to watch AfricanMagic leisurely at home. An abrupt and ill planned discontinuation of subsidy was typical of the Nigerian govt and their fire brigade approach to sensitive issues. |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by XerXers: 5:52pm On Jul 09, 2023 |
A SW person calls Tinubu's government a minority government with weak mandate yet online warriors think this about tribe |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Kukutenla: 6:22pm On Jul 09, 2023 |
grandstar:You didn't answer my question about what next after subsidy removal and devaluing the naira? I think we as a country need to chart our own course far away from western economic ideologies. Cutting corporate tax is an elitist move which enriches the corporate giants and players with little effect on those who feel the devaluation and subsidy removal the most; the informal sector. Such policies don't push people out of poverty or create equal distribution of wealth. What we need is to trickle down the wealth of the nation to the grassroots. The Buhari administration understood this but were largely clueless on how to go about it which is why they carried out such programs like N-power, tradermoni etc. Same with the stock exchange. To about 80% of the populace, stock exchange is "audio money". Those who followed the hype in 2005-2008 have bitter stories to tell. My point is, this is a well worn and beaten path for us. SAP, or OBJ's reform programs. It's a two- edged sword. While IBB's led to more economic woes, OBJ's successes couldn't be sustained by succeeding administration who didn't have the international clout and reach he had. So, this path is not new. We need to break this circus to get real development the likes which we can boast of in fifty years' time. 2 Likes |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by helinues: 6:23pm On Jul 09, 2023 |
Purely bunkum 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by grandstar(m): 3:02am On Jul 10, 2023 |
CodeTemplar: I do understand your worry about "non-essential imports" having a negative impact on "essential" imports. Most often, this means that consumer items are non-essential or frivolous as many Nigerians put it but essential or raw materials and capital goods are essential. Nowadays, the best of economists state say that let the market pick winners- let the market decide what are winners or losers. That means let the "invisible hand" decide. What are considered frivolous imports produce wealth and sustenance for millions of Nigeria. It can also be a source of cheap food and also a producer of wealth if barriers could be lifted on some important food imports. You can buy a kilo of chicken wholesale from France for N350. Meanwhile, this is sold here for 2,500. Rice too can be far cheaper. I know you'll argue:" why should we import these goods when they can be produced locally?" I watched something on TV recently. A country needed to qualify for sprints in an international event. They did not have enough sprinters or something. So, this big lady who is a shot putter decided to help out in the 100m dash. Of course, she came last but her country qualified. When Nigeria produces rice, she is like that shot putter. She can run but can never win. Her strength is in shotput. International trade is focused on winners and not on losers. You do best when you focus on your winners, winners are in areas you have comparative advantage in or as life coaches call it "your calling.". This would give you far greater results than on areas you suck at. For instance, it is estimated shea butter alone could provide $2b in export earnings. What about cashew? Nigeria produces 100,000mt while Ivory Coast produces 700,000mt. Ivory Coast population is 12.5% of Nigeria's. CodeTemplar: The abrupt end of petrol subsidy was probably the best. You seem to ignore the issue: the elimination of the subsidy could not wait an extra second. Already, government said it saved N400b within a month. And that was before the Naira was floated. The 2023 budget is N21.83tr. If at 400bn a month times 12 and you have N4.6bn. That is at least 20% of the budget. It is insane. 20% on recurrent expenditure. Worse, government was borrowing to fund it, adding to the unsustainable national debt. The only reason why it had not been removed over the past decades was resistance from the masses and championed by the NLC. It is a pity for had it been removed, Nigeria would have been the de-facto energy hub of Africa. The nation's GDP would be at least 4 times its present size. 3 Likes |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by ThisMustStop: 3:23am On Jul 10, 2023 |
[quote author=XerXers post=124317641]A SW person calls Tinubu's government a minority government with weak mandate yet online warriors think this about tribe[/quote Not totally accurate |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by hedonido: 4:48am On Jul 10, 2023 |
Their response to why they opposed subsidy removal in 2012 was that they couldn't trust the "corrupt" government of Jonathan to manage the savings and implement palliative measures. Isn't this the biggest joke of the century? Why should I trust a known kleptocrat and epitome of corrupt enrichment like Tinubu to superintend subsidy removal now? Someone who became the richest politician in Nigeria by milking dry the resources of Lagos State and using it to build his own private political dynasty? The weak mandate thing is another matter, which would become manifest shortly, because I don't understand the stupid arrogance of this clown whose only known support block is his Yoruba people. The vast majority of voters nationwide did not vote for you and you know it, yet you're prancing about like a peacock, purporting to implement heavy handed anti-people polices. I don't blame you. I only blame the very docile masses. |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by chrisxxx(m): 5:01am On Jul 10, 2023 |
Nothing possessed Tinubu other than Obis impetus. Obi had said he would remove subsidy and his mammoth of supporters didn't query him. Tinubu capitalised in that to act. He believed if Obi says it then it is good. |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by allthingsgood: 5:23am On Jul 10, 2023 |
grandstar: Gbam! You said it all |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by allthingsgood: 5:24am On Jul 10, 2023 |
chrisxxx: Trash. Capitalized on what Someone that has already won election. Lmao |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by allthingsgood: 5:27am On Jul 10, 2023 |
hedonido: I am from the south south. I support Tinubu 1000%. The fact that you obedients were so obsessed with bullying people with divergent views, doesn't mean we still won't vote Tinubu. I will vote for him a thousand times over Peter obi |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by wildernessVoice: 5:47am On Jul 10, 2023 |
Many of us are in the school of thought that pms subsidy should be removed but not in a harsh manner as pronounced on May 29th. We expect the removal to be in phases(gradual) until major palliatives are put in place. If we have a working rail transport system and AGO driven Buses provided for both intercity and intracity transportation, the pains could've been minimal on the citizens. |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Basic123: 6:12am On Jul 10, 2023 |
wildernessVoice:What has happened to the previous "gradual removal "? It always have a way of crippling in again |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by hedonido: 6:49am On Jul 10, 2023 |
allthingsgood: You're within your right to continue fooling yourself. |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by allthingsgood: 7:36am On Jul 10, 2023 |
hedonido:
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Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by grandstar(m): 9:13pm On Jul 10, 2023 |
Kukutenla: I did. I said it all depends on who the incoming cbn governor, finance minister are and how transparent the privatisation policy is. I also included a cut in corporate taxes which you condemned, Kukutenla: Free market reforms are the only way forward or you want the backward interventionist policies to continue? Kukutenla: I totally disagree and statistics prove otherwise. For businesses to make money, they have to invest. These investments create jobs and wealth. This does trickle down. Ireland and Hong Kong have used this to move from low income to high income in a generation. Kukutenla: The primary purpose of low taxes isn't to help the rich but to uplift the poor. A booming economy is a job creation monster, especially if the labor market is flexible. At a point in China's growth, the labour market became tight and wages were growing at 20% clip annually. The best way to help the poor is through rapid economic growth. That's what China, Japan and the Asian tigers used to lift themselves out of poverty in a generation. Other schemes to help the poor are a[i]n addition[/i] to growth generation policies. The best policies for poverty alleviation are Conditional Cash Transfers. This is the policy of giving poor families (money is usually paid out to women) monthly if they meet certain indices such as sending their wards to schools or taking vaccinations. Kukutenla: Foreign Portfolio Investment isn't all bad as you paint it. There's both the good and bad side of things. Then, there was a global credit bubble but now, the developed nations are either experiencing a recession or are suffering from a downturn. Interest rates are quite high now and not low like it was in the mid 2000s as central banks are hawkish relating inflation. This is the best time for FPI inflows since interest rates are high and now low. Then, it was the tightening of interest rates in the US that led to massive outflow of portfolio investment. Also, money from the stockmarket does trickle down. I am an estate agent and a lof of money being made in the stock market boom was flowing into the property market. There was a massive increase in property prices. The outflow led to a property price slump. Prices actually started going down, unknown in Nigeria's history. Kukutenla: There was nothing wrong in SAP. It was Babangida's insincere implementation of it. For instance, a Structural Adjustment Programme demands low budget deficits or a balanced budget. This wasn't the case under Babangida who believed in money printing to cover massive budget deficits. This fuelled both high inflation and persistent devaluation of the Naira. Contrast that under Abacha. Because he was fiscally prudent (though corrupt)), inflation was relatively stable. The Naira stayed at $1- N80 from 1995-1998. OBJ's policies couldn't be continued by successive government not because of lack of foreign clout (did the IMF not plead with the Sanusi to devalue the Naira in the early 2010s. or did they not meet with Buhari to end fuel subsidies and float the Naira) but rather they lacked the 2 financial discipline of OBJ or simply followed bankrupt schemes like that under Buhari. Cracks began to appear when Jonathan increased the minimum wage from 5,500 to 18,000. This wasn't financially prudent. This was a very expensive increase, done to win workers support for the coming elections. Next was his inability to end the fuel subsidies. He only managed to increase the price, thereby reducing the amount of money used to provide the subsidy If he had increased workers salaries to 12k and had removed the fuel subsidies, he would have performed much better. Buhari was a complete disaster. Once he started fixing the exchange rate upon assumption of office in 2015, I knew the economy was finished. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Tianamen1: 9:34pm On Jul 10, 2023 |
grandstar: I agree with most of your views. I would like your opinion on property taxes since you are in the real estate business. America has an average property tax rate of 1.1% annually. If the FG implemented such a policy, Nigeria's revenue to GDP problem will be solved. I believe Kemi Adeosun's VAIDs problem was based on property taxes. |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by grandstar(m): 9:41pm On Jul 10, 2023 |
Tianamen1: Hi Property taxes usually go to the local governments. In Nigeria, they are called tenement rates. However, Nigerians don't like paying their taxes, and despite the fact that Lagos state has its own equivalent of property tax with very low valuations to make it affordable to pay, people are still not still paying their fair share. Also, in Nigeria, the yield on property in rental form is quite low. It is about 4% in Lagos for instance. So, a 1.1% property tax rate would be considered too high. A 0.2% rate should be the max here. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Tianamen1: 10:49pm On Jul 10, 2023 |
grandstar:Thanks for the response. The average yield for rental property in America is 6.12%. Using ratios, this is equivalent to a rate of 0.72. This is fairer, considering that all Nigerians must pay for commodities at the same prices Americans pay. Enforcing property taxes is easy, the government simply sells the homes of defaulters. This will create more business for you. Don't you agree? |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Kukutenla: 7:30pm On Jul 11, 2023 |
grandstar:Sorry but I don't think appointments is a plan. I believe what you mean in essence is that the appointees will decide the next step which will mean a tactical failure on the President's plan. He should have a plan in place which they will help him implement and not the other way round. The moment an appointee is going to decide the direction an administration's central policy will take, you can be rest assured the whole thing will get lost in political power plays and fight for relevance. I hope you are not correct that the plan is to wait for appointees to draw a plan. Free market reforms are the only way forward or you want the backward interventionist policies to continue? Good evening. It is obvious from your responses that you're pro-capitalism. I don't have a problem with that but i think people who support capitalism are usually quick to claim so much success for it and blame extraneous factors where it fails. For example, you blame insincerity for Babangida's failure and inability to carry through on reforms for that ofonathan. What is clear is that if capitalism is a perfect model, from IBB untill GEJ is over 20 years and that should be enough time to set Nigerian economy on the path of irreversible prosperity but you tacitly admit that is not the case. We have to be honest enough with ourselves to know that if capitalism is faultless, then maybe we are the ones who have a problem with its application. If that is the case, we might need to either go outside for help in applying it or we look for a model that we can apply within our abilities. You can already see from this govt that it seems more like a gamble when you apply market reforms without the right fundamentals. Nigerians are getting poorer by the day not richer and economists have turned prophets telliing us of prosperity somewhere down the line. Do I agree with them? No. I believe we must chart our own course. That's why I've been asking what next. I believe very strongly we must begin to focus energy on areas where we have comparative advantage outside of oil to boost our economy. Instead of waiting for FDI, FPI, IMF etc etc to come to our rescue, we can dig in by ourselves to build our economy on our backs. That's what i believe is the surest way to our prosperity and not all this capitalism theories that yield only marginal improvements in the long run but burst at the first sign of trouble. That's what has brought us to the merry-go-round we find ourselves from 1999 till now. We are back at the same spot. Broke, debt burdened and developmentally challenged. We need to break this circus. 1 Like |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Ikpeabujo(m): 8:36pm On Jul 11, 2023 |
allthingsgood:it’s your choice so don’t make it look like you doing any one favor I still trying to understand the link with obedient and the choice you made |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by grandstar(m): 9:36pm On Jul 11, 2023 |
Kukutenla: Appointments influence the markets. At times, just nominating a very experiences technocrat can strengthen your currency and boost investments if it is someone the market trusts in. For instance, simply nominating someone like Pat Utomi can boost investor confidence. There is market confidence he will pursue a course that will benefit the economy. The same with the CBN. A man like Alfred Rewane as CBN governor can be a game changer. The government won't just blindly appoint someone without some due diligence and what to expect. Kukutenla: If Babangida is to blame, why not blame him? If Jonathan is to blame, why not blame him? The word capitalism is usually misused. To most people, it simply means the opposite of a communist/socialist system is capitalism and it is not so. Let us stick to liberal economics or market reforms. The quality of implementation of economic policies determines its level of success. There is nothing wrong with the policy itself. Your blaming the failure of a good policy on the policy itself is strange. If a student fails to read for his exams and fails, will you blame the exams? if Babangida was reckless with spending, why is SAP to blame? If Jonathan increased minimum wage by 300%, whose fault is it? There's nothing inherently wrong with these policies. OBJ got outstanding results in his second term due to not only having a team of highly competent technocrats, but that he was ready to work with them. He reduced the foreign debt from $35b to $5b using debt buyback. He left $20bn in the Excess Crude Account. In the foreign reserves was a huge $60bn I am certain when Jonathan wanted choose to increase the minimum wage from 5,500 to 18,000, the finance minister would have cautioned him against it but he turned deaf ears. When the CBN placed fx restrictions on 41 items, the ministry of finance was furious as its input was not sought. It should have been. Buhari abandoned market policies and became interventionist. He fixed the exchange rate, became protectionist, stubbornly refused to end fuel subsidies much much earlier in his government and did not privatize a single parastatal! We are now living with the consequences. So, the opposite of market policies was an economic disaster. So, liberal economics was never the problem but quality of implementation. Kukutenla: All countries have problems with implementing free market policies or even al sorts of economic policies. The nation has gone the opposite route before. Statist policies were introduced in 1994 by Sam Aluko and it led to a recession. This did not work and was abandoned in the 1995 budget. Buhari too brought in a new system which proved a complete and utter failure. Market reforms did not fail. From 1999-2013, the economy grew on the average by 6% yearly and the economy's GDP doubled. It was clear when Buhari introduced an interventionist model and the economy swiftly collapsed and remained in a weak state throughout his disastrous 2 terms. Kukutenla: I do support the reforms so far despite the present outcomes. The state of the economy was simply too bad. The petrol subsidy was gulping over 20% of the budget. The multiple exchange was severely short-changing the government purse of 100s of billions of Naira and was mired in fantastical corruption. There's a backlog of over $12b of unmet demand. These are still early days. It is too early to give judgment. It is barely 40 days. Kukutenla: You spoke my language when you mentioned comparative advantage. Areas where we have comparative advantage will boost exports and earn the country much needed foreign exchange. This is supply side Sadly, the country is fixed on the demand side which is reducing demand for FX and not increasing supply. If 10% of the resources expended on making the country self sufficient in rice production was expended on crops we have comparative advantage in, food exports would have increased by a whooping $5bn if not far more. Ivory Coast with 28m people produces 700,000mt of cashew while Nigeria's 100,000mt. Cambodia in about a decade has moved from producing 100,000mt of cashew to over 700,000mt of the nuts. The country badly needs FDI and FPI, especially the former. The country's saving rate is too low. FDI also drives growth. Soludo said if FDI equivalent to 5% of GDP keeps flowing in for 5 years consecutively, an economy will be grow so fast, it will overheat. Absolutely nothing wrong with FDI. It was what built China. Hong Kong businesses rushed to set up manufacturing factories when China started opening up in the late 1970s. China at a time was getting up to $70b of FDI a year. A lot of the technological advancement Chinese companies have today were either stolen or acquired from foreign manufacturers they worked with or partnered with foreign multinationals. Nigeria needs to encourage massive amounts of FDI and not the opposite. It is especially needed now as the petrol subsidy removal will drag economic growth down for the next 2-3 years. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Fuel Subsidy Removal: What ‘courage’ Really ‘possessed’ Tinubu? By Olu Fasan by Kukutenla: 7:19pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
grandstar:I'm sure you're experienced enough to know those are short term effects that hardly make any difference in the long run. You can't be seriously telling me that the plan to rally the economy back into shape is to simply appoint a technocrat. If that's the case then one wonders why the delay in appointing the magic wand. The stock market has been posting positive figures since Tinubu took the oath but in real terms, it's been doom and gloom. For instance, simply nominating someone like Pat Utomi can boost investor confidence. There is market confidence he will pursue a course that will benefit the economy. The same with the CBN. A man like Alfred Rewane as CBN governor can be a game changer.I believe you mean Bismarck and not Alfred. I don't think Pat and Bismarck can have a bigger influence than NOI, Soludo and Ezeks had. If that's the big pan then we're in bigger tribute than I thought. If Babangida is to blame, why not blame him? If Jonathan is to blame, why not blame him?Like i said, you're picky and choosy. When it works, the policy is faultless, when it fails, it's those who implemented it. First of all, your claim that GEJ's minimum wage increase was a factor that led to failure falls flat on the face when you realise that OBJ actually took minimum wage from 750 to 7500 in four years. That's 1000% increase compared to GEJ who actually took it from 7500 to 18,000 which is just over 200%. Another point I'll like you to note is that NOI who marshalled OBJ'S economic policy in his second term was also in charge under GEJ with more power and influence. Under IBB, devaluation of the naira was a central theme and he also opened up the economy to importation to create the "free market" you all croon and that ultimately led to the demise of our local industries instead of competition making them better as was then claimed. With increase in free market came increase in corruption and corrupt tendencies. As for Buhari, I'm surprised at your narrative!! The claim in 2015 for the impending recession was that global fall in oil price and economic mismanagement under GEJ This narrative continued until 2020 when covid became the new whipping boy. 2022 came with Russian War as the excuse and when oil price rose, crude oil theft became the new song. So I'm surprised any economic observer is coming round to blaming Buhari when while he was on seat, we were fed with so many excuses and no economist of note came out to counter the narratives. It's part of why I don't agree with your assertion on free market. Let me also put it out that the US is the biggest govt interventionist in the world followed by China. Yet their economy is what we want to be while we preach against intervention. China is interventionist as well as UK. Which big economy is not interventionist if I may ask? Our problem is more of control than free market. We always drift towards the extreme and then we start blaming people. You spoke my language when you mentioned comparative advantage. Areas where we have comparative advantage will boost exports and earn the country much needed foreign exchange. This is supply sideMaybe you don't understand that comparative advantage is more interventionist than free market. Buhari used to ask that we grow what we eat. OBJ said we should buy naija then. Look, it is v free market that made Nigeria rely only on crude while cocoa, oil palm, cotton and other produces we survived on before oil were left to rot away. The market oeuvre for oil and the demand in the 70s made other commodities unattractive. We followed the trend. By the early 80s when the price and demand burst, we were left stranded. And that's how we have been since then. So to take us back to that era of multiple income streams demand targeted intervention in such sectors. Our mining sector has been well documented in terms of potential. But why will anyone go into it when we are still fixated on oil? We must begin to make deliberate moves in our economy instead of waiting for so- called market miracles. Soludo is fond of over-gloss. 5% of FDI for Nigeria is $50bn approx. Who is going to push $50bn into Nigeria every year? Must be either angel Gabriel or mother Theresa. It will not happen. Most FDIs come in to take profit not improve your economy. China's economy was not built on FDI. Rather, it was built on SMEs who were incrementally grown by the govt. It was the boom in exports that attracted the FDIs. If the foreign coys leave China today, are you telling me their economy will crash? The West left Russia. Has their economy tanked? Instead they got new customers and left Europe worse off because they control their economic fundamentals unlike we do are at the mercy of the "market". So, my point is if we don't control our fundamentals, we will always find ourselves at this juncture were we will have no choice but to push our people into poverty to make economic headway 1 Like |
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