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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Schemerkhiz: 12:34pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
BascoVanVeli: The only Advantage Demehin is having over Plumptre is Pace, Physicality.. I don't see Demehin better than Plumptre in Positioning, Leadership and Communication, anticipation (Read game), Aerial Ability and Ball Playing/Distribution.. In terms of Tackling I will give it a 50/50 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:40pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Schemerkhiz: There is always a back story but that doesn't change the fact that Tosin has played more than any other player at that position. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by lovewins: 12:41pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Schemerkhiz: Agreed. An addendum: Experience is also another highpoint she has over Demehin. Save the u20 world cup, Demehin has played just one season of top professional football, while Ash played years in the D1 college games, 2 seasons at Notts County and four seasons at Leicester. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by yinkeys(m): 12:44pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
lovewins:Politically correct statement I understand social intelligence is important but the NFF officials seem to be horrible people handling the football affairs of these players Easier said than done I hope this is how you react if you don’t get paid what you’re due whenever you work monthly Can you imagine this isn’t the first time they’ve been doing this. Falcons always have to ring the alarm so they get treated fairly. Nigerians aren’t expecting getting past the second round because of all the money disputes. We’d be lucky to come out as best losers |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Schemerkhiz: 12:46pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
lovewins: I'm been fair with my Points.. I can't Lie to you Osinachi Ohale and Ashleigh Plumptre were my first pick at Center Back, with Demehin and Onome coming in as alternative. Right now The Coaches knows best too, |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:52pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Schemerkhiz: U are just throwing words out at this point. Leadership and communication is crazy. How do u even measure that ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by lovewins: 12:54pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
yinkeys: First, there are no best losers. The number of teams were expanded so only top 2 teams qualify. I hope you didn't misunderstand me though, I was justifying what happened, only explaining what I think happened and the likely reasoning behind it. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Schemerkhiz: 1:02pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
BascoVanVeli: I have made my point With the options listed, Ashleigh Plumptre is way ahead but the Coaches are in best position to decide who's best to play for the team at the Moment.. Again you're talking as if Ashleigh Plumptre Plays in Div2 in England or even a weaker league like the Norwegian, Belgium and Finnish league. |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Schemerkhiz: 1:05pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
From another angle again is Imuran at Left Back, Demehin and Imuran seems to have this Chemistry right from Rivers Angels, U20 days down to Stade de Reims.. Imuran like to burst forward with pace which Demehin on the other stands firm defensively, but Ashleigh Plumptre is more of a Ball Playing Center Back who likes to drive forward with the ball too... 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by lovewins: 1:12pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Schemerkhiz: It's why I think she's the better choice for the Canada game. Don't forget Halimatu isn't in the mix so Randy's thinking may be to get the best bunch that'll play defence. Ashleigh will probably be an option against a less pact less direct Ireland squad with Halimatu back in the squad. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:38pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Schemerkhiz: I never talked as if anything about Ashleigh's league. I only told u about Tosin. U made ur point but I asked a question. How do u measure leadership and communication? Now saying Ashleigh is Way ahead of Tosin makes me think u have a bit of bias in this situation. For a defender to be Way ahead of Tosin they would have to at least be world class. So u are going too far. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:00pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
I would have preferred Gift Monday over Onumonu if we are going with Oshoala up top.. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 2:12pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
@ Schemerkhiz, I will have to disagree with you on this. Demehin brings more to the table than just Pace and Physical play. She actually brings ALL the attributes you listed (highlighted below). If you are able, please re-watch the Haiti and New Zealand friendlies again and just focus on her. I think you would agree she checks the box on all those attributes Schemerkhiz: |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 2:16pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Monday is still a newbie, having just completed her first year in Spain and only became a regular started prior to the end of the season - last 6 or so games. Onumonu is a veteran of the NWSL and so brings that high level of experience to the table. It makes sense to me that Onumonu would start, and then bring in Monday to finish the job. Front 3, baring injury, will LIKELY be Onumonu, Oshoala and Okoronkwo BascoVanVeli: |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 2:22pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
But you need to watch Demehin more, especially since she joined Stade. She IS actually a ball playing CB - both herself and Ashleigh. Ohale and Ebi (especially Ohale) can be classified as 'Kick and Rush' CBs. Regarding our outside backs, Alozie actually overlaps a whole lot more than Imuran. Schemerkhiz: |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 2:38pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
You are right. For example, the German MNT used to do that in the early 2000's (not sure if they still do). 2 weeks before the WC begins, they only play low profile friendlies (against low division teams) to boost the confidence of the players. Scores used to be high - like 10 zip or there about. This was strategic, because is helped reduce the risk of injury and helped them finesse game tactics and strategy in a match environment (set pieces, corner kicks, etc). And it actually worked out well for them, based on their results and performances I suspect this is the approach Randy is taking here, based on the prevailing situation. lovewins: 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:36pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
AkinDS: Onumonu has been on the worst form of her career. If experience was the only factor Ordega should be starting. Plus I have not seen Onumonu play on the left side of attack before unlike Gift who plays there for club and country. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:37pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
AkinDS: Ohale kick and rush ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 3:48pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 3:56pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
She won WoM at WAFCON vs. Burundi primarily because of her excellent defensive display, and not because of her passing accuracy out of the back. More often than not, she would rather punt the ball up-field, as opposed to looking for that right pass and building out from the back. BascoVanVeli: |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Deltamani: 3:58pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
BascoVanVeli: AkinD is wrong with this statement…. Ohale has gone better with her Passing game… She passes well from the Back and also delivers excellent Long balls.. |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Deltamani: 4:00pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
BascoVanVeli: Onumonu Literally Plays all positions upfront just like Oshoala.. When I knew her back then before she pledged her allegiance to play for Nigeria she was quick too, Someti wonder what happened to her Pace.. |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:04pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
AkinDS: Lol wat defense did we have to play against Burundi ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdxNRJTK_C4 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:11pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Deltamani: I agree she can play all 3 spots but she has not really played on the left for us. I remember she started with the SF on the right then moved central. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:11pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Deltamani: Exactly. |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 4:28pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Granted, Onumonu has had a very rough period for both club and country. However, all it takes is one boost of confidence for us to see that galloping terror once again. I am optimistic for her because she also believes she has something to prove. I have seen her come in and play off the left side of attack for FC Gotham in the NWSL. Uchenna Kanu is also an option. However, I feel she is more effective coming in as a sub. Regarding Ordega (who is likely the preferred option), she did come very late to camp - so realistically, she would not start. BascoVanVeli: 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 4:33pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Sorry, but from an indepth assessment standpoint, the full match will give you a better perspective vs. highlights. Also, don't look at me regarding the WoM award in that game. Not sure why she was chosen vs. Kanu, who I personally would have thought had an excellent game and ought to have been awarded WoM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XMH4hBvukE&t=3221s BascoVanVeli: |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 4:49pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
Again, its about perspective. My point is based on having watched her last 5 games with the Super Falcons, her passing efficiency, especially with her long balls (or up-field punts), have been hit or miss (actually, more 'miss' than 'hit'). Stats wise, her long pass turnover rate has been extremely high. And she has been doing this a lot lately - even at club level. Deltamani: |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by Deltamani: 5:59pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
AkinDS: Ohale wasn’t that good with her Passes from her U20 days but her Physicality and tackling abilities always gave her the edge in Defense.. One of the reason she benched the Likes of Christy George and Ulunma Jerome who were top favorites at Center Back then.. Back then when E/Guinea was using the so called Men, Ohale was the One going against them, she police them back to back… At the World Cup in 2011 she single handed handled the like of German #9 Birgit Prinz, Canadian #14 Melissa Tancredi and Co who have intimidating Physique..
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Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by PDPGuy: 6:06pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
It may have been addressed earlier, but do we know for sure whether Ajibade and Ayinde will miss one the first match, or the first 2 games? |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by lovewins: 6:22pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
PDPGuy: It's just the game against Canada. The closest example to reference is Iwobi. Remember he got a red card in AFCON round of 16. That made him ineligible for our world cup qualifiers games (2) against Ghana. He the resumed against Sierra Leone in our AFCON qualifiers. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread by AkinDS: 7:04pm On Jul 15, 2023 |
You're right. Ajibade and Ayinde were given straight reds and therefore, will miss two (2) games. They both missed the WAFCON 3rd place match against Zambia and will miss the WWC opening match against Canada. lovewins: |
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