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Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 6:21pm On Jul 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

So if they're CUT-OFF from the earth please they will be BANISHED to where? cheesy

How did Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ leave this world?
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26pm On Jul 16, 2023
MindHacker9009:

How did Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ leave this world?

Where did the Jewish God say He created for humans to live? Psalms 115:16 compare to Genesis 1:26-28
And what happens to them after death? Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-10
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Nobody: 6:27pm On Jul 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


What makes the Jewish God special? smiley
Idk. Go ask them
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Kobojunkie: 6:27pm On Jul 16, 2023
MindHacker9009:
■ How did Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ leave this world?
Where did they each leave to? undecided
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:28pm On Jul 16, 2023
tundein18:

Idk. Go ask them
Thanks, the Christian God is the greatest! wink
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 6:29pm On Jul 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Where did the Jewish God say He created for humans to live? Psalms 115:16 compare to Genesis 1:26-28
And what happens to them after death? Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-10

Where are these people living now: Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ?
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Nobody: 6:30pm On Jul 16, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Thanks, the Christian God is the greatest! wink
To you
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Kobojunkie: 6:31pm On Jul 16, 2023
MindHacker9009:
■ Where are these people living now: Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ?
You claimed they left the world, didn't you? On what boat dd they each sail away with? undecided
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31pm On Jul 16, 2023
MindHacker9009:

Where are these people living now: Enoch, Elijah and Jesus Christ?

You said Jesus never existed after all he is not a scriptural character in the books you trusted (Genesis to Malachi) so don't add him to your list but as for Enoch and Elijah where did the Jewish God created for humans to live? Genesis 1:26-28 compare to Psalms 115:16 smiley
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:33pm On Jul 16, 2023
tundein18:

To you
NO to millions of people who believe in him throughout the earth preaching zealously and industriously teaching about the Kingdom of God! Act 1:8 wink
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 6:33pm On Jul 16, 2023
@MaxInDHouse how much does your oganisation pay you to be on Nairaland day and night daily answering question on their behalf?
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:38pm On Jul 16, 2023
MindHacker9009:
@MaxInDHouse how much does your oganisation pay you to be on Nairaland day and night daily answering question on their behalf?
How much does Jews pay you to continue arguing on their behalf on Nairaland whereas there is nowhere in their scriptures that says you should be here arguing for them.


This is what i found in the books that speaks about Jesus of Nazareth:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

Please whether true or lies just quote a single verse in the Jewish scriptures that concerns or commanded you to go speaking in behalf of their God! cheesy
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 6:43pm On Jul 16, 2023
Isaiah 49:6
I will make you a light to the Gentiles, and you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth.”

Because the God of the Jews has made the Jews a light to the Gentiles and salvation to the ends of the earth.

Show us in the Old Testament and not your invented New Testament when the God of the Jews says the Gentile will be a light to the Jews and to the ends of the earth.

MaxInDHouse:

How much does Jews pay you to continue arguing on their behalf on Nairaland whereas there is nowhere in their scriptures that says you should be here arguing for them.


This is what i found in the books that speaks about Jesus of Nazareth:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

Please whether true or lies just quote a single verse in the Jewish scriptures that concerns or commanded you to go speaking in behalf of their God! cheesy
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:54pm On Jul 16, 2023
Christians aren't saying Jews are pagans but it's their own scriptures that's exposing their hypocrisy and IDOLATRY.

The true God promised to make them His people forever if they will adhere strictly to His plan:

Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me. Exodus 19:5

The same God told them through the mouth of Moses:

"I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name". Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Moses was a prophet and God at the same time {Exodus 7:1} the one and only promise of another God to be born among the Israelites is found {Isaiah 9:6} and Jesus of Nazareth fulfilled that role! John 1:1

So if they rejected Jesus of Nazareth who came to speak to them in the name of the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob {John 17:6, 26} they are CURSED for life that's the warning the God of Moses gave them:

"Indeed (surely), I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name". Deuteronomy 18:19

So go and tell them that according to the books in their own hands they've been CURSED for rejecting Jesus of Nazareth! smiley

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Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58pm On Jul 16, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Isaiah 49:6
I will make you a light to the Gentiles, and you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth.”

Of course they will become a light if they follow the prophet that comes in the manner of Moses, the prophet who is a God at the same time performing great miraculous works in their midst.

That's what Jesus reminded his disciples:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain" Matthew 5:14

So instead of speaking for them let them come and preach to people if truly they have the backing of the spirit of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! Act 1:8 wink

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Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 3:00am On Jul 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

If course they will become a light if they follow the prophet that comes in the manner of Moses, the prophet who is a God at the same time performing great miraculous works in their midst.

That's what Jesus reminded his disciples:

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain" Matthew 5:14

So instead of speaking for them let them come and preach to people if truly the have the backing of the spirit of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! Act 1:8 wink

Romans 2:14
For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.

From the above those that will follow God already have the Laws of God in their hearts and do not need your invented messiah for them to fear God. The Jews fear God and will not go about deceiving people like you, your organisation and others going about pumping the gullible ones with the opium of the invented Jesus Christ and the FAKE mansions he has gone to prepare for the gullible followers of your invented Jesus Christ.

People have freely converted to Judaism/reform Judaism without being deceived with an invented messiah like you and your organisation are doing.
When the TRUE Jewish Messiah God Almighty has promised the Jews come then His duty is to make true worshippers from all over the world to worship God Almighty and not the fake followers of Jesus Christ that have a bat in their wardrobes in secret but in the open be shouting in Jesus Name or like general overseers preaching Jesus Christ but going to get power from marine spirits.

Here is a confession by a pastor called chidubem okwu who narrated his life story of how he was initiated into occultism by his General Overseer senior friend and mentor. He talked of how he went to the Bar Beach in Lagos one night and slept with a mermaid physically and thereafter the mermaid made the sign of the cross on her head touching her vagina.
And from then on he too began to operate in powerful “gifts” of “touch and fall”, “look and follow”etc. The only thing the mermaid told him was that he had to renew the power once a month by sleeping with a virgin and married women.
Sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcJQtXxX1I
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:09am On Jul 17, 2023
Please which Jewish prophet wrote the book you're now quoting?
Is Romans not written by Romans again? cheesy

You're not even ashame quoting the Romans now shey?
Sebi you said the New Testament was written by the Romans?
Why making reference to what Romans wrote to back Judaism nah? cheesy

MindHacker9009:

Romans 2:14
For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.

From the above those that will follow God already have the Laws of God in their hearts and do not need your invented messiah for them to fear God. The Jews fear God and will not go about deceiving people like you, your organisation and others going about pumping the gullible ones with the opium of the invented Jesus Christ and the FAKE mansions he has gone to prepare for the gullible followers of your invented Jesus Christ.

People have freely converted to Judaism/reform Judaism without being deceived with an invented messiah like you and your organisation are doing.
When the TRUE Jewish Messiah God Almighty has promised the Jews come then His duty is to make true worshippers from all over the world to worship God Almighty and not the fake followers of Jesus Christ that have a bat in their wardrobes in secret but in the open be shouting in Jesus Name or like general overseers preaching Jesus Christ but going to get power from marine spirits.

Here is a confession by a pastor called chidubem okwu who narrated his life story of how he was initiated into occultism by his General Overseer senior friend and mentor. He talked of how he went to the Bar Beach in Lagos one night and slept with a mermaid physically and thereafter the mermaid made the sign of the cross on her head touching her vagina.
And from then on he too began to operate in powerful “gifts” of “touch and fall”, “look and follow”etc. The only thing the mermaid told him was that he had to renew the power once a month by sleeping with a virgin and married women.
Sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcJQtXxX1I
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Nobody: 6:32am On Jul 17, 2023
MindHacker9009:


Romans 2:14
For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.

Erm.. Young man, you are quoting Paul, a Christian who believed in Christ and writes all these things to help others believe and follow Christ.



From the above those that will follow God already have the Laws of God in their hearts and do not need your invented messiah for them to fear God.
Sorry, they don't 'already' have the Law of Moses in their hearts. They have what is called Faith, and Faith is greater than the Law.
This passage came because some Gentiles (those that weren't Jews) got baptized in the name of Jesus. And some other Jews were trying to convince them that they are still unclean if they don't do certain things in the law like circumcision. So Paul tried to destroy that argument, telling them that by Faith, they obey God in the ways that they are learning, typically doing the preachings of Paul and Jesus back then... And that God saved them while they were without the Law, so Faith in God — from their hearts — decides for them as the Law.


The Jews fear God and will not go about deceiving people like you, your organisation and others going about pumping the gullible ones with the opium of the invented Jesus Christ and the FAKE mansions he has gone to prepare for the gullible followers of your invented Jesus Christ.

So, what else should happen after resurrection from the dead? We'll be singing and dancing 'Hallelujah' for a thousand years? (Probably wearing white garments)?

Well I believe the mansions are not for everyone.

We were created to inhabit the Earth, not the Heavens..
So typically, I believe that we who overcome sin, will be put back as rulers of God's new people after the resurrection and after this age (after this whole phase of Earth is gone and a new one is put in place).
We will be judges and priests before God.


People have freely converted to Judaism/reform Judaism without being deceived with an invented messiah like you and your organisation are doing.
When the TRUE Jewish Messiah God Almighty has promised the Jews come then His duty is to make true worshippers from all over the world to worship God Almighty and not the fake followers of Jesus Christ that have a bat in their wardrobes in secret but in the open be shouting in Jesus Name or like general overseers preaching Jesus Christ but going to get power from marine spirits.

Here is a confession by a pastor called chidubem okwu who narrated his life story of how he was initiated into occultism by his General Overseer senior friend and mentor. He talked of how he went to the Bar Beach in Lagos one night and slept with a mermaid physically and thereafter the mermaid made the sign of the cross on her head touching her vagina.
And from then on he too began to operate in powerful “gifts” of “touch and fall”, “look and follow”etc. The only thing the mermaid told him was that he had to renew the power once a month by sleeping with a virgin and married women.
Sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcJQtXxX1I

Yh, many crooked stuff going on in the name of Christianity. But you all forcefully attribute it to the real Christians, meanwhile Jesus Christ already made us know that all these things and more will come in His name.
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:43am On Jul 17, 2023
preciousee17:

Erm.. Young man, you are quoting Paul, a Christian who believed in Christ and writes all these things to help others believe and follow Christ.

He's totally confused now!

I have been a thorn in his flesh ever since we had the first conversation on this matter that's why he is asking me how much i was paid to speak for Christianity but he doesn't want to know the truth.

Now he is quoting Paul (a Christian) to support Judaism against Christianity.

Hilarious indeed! grin

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Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Maynman: 7:30am On Jul 17, 2023
preciousee17:


Erm.. Young man, you are quoting Paul, a Christian who believed in Christ and writes all these things to help others believe and follow christ
Erm… young woman, which verse in the New Testament did paul refer to himself as “Christian”?.


The other person hailing you lol, have you ever wondered why jehovah witnesses don’t use the tag “christians”?
Have you wondered why they don’t call their place of worship “church”?
Abi you part of them gan 😂

Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Nobody: 8:21am On Jul 17, 2023
Maynman:

Erm… young woman, which verse in the New Testament did paul refer to himself as “Christian”?.


The other person hailing you lol, have you ever wondered why jehovah witnesses don’t use the tag “christians”?
Have you wondered why they don’t call their place of worship “church”?
Abi you part of them gan 😂

Wait oo, are you trying to turn me against the JW brother?
I know of doctrines upon doctrines...
And I know that almost every sect of Christianity have flaws in their doctrines (Catholics, Protestants, cessationists, celestials and yes, JWs.)

But so far, in this argument, he hasn't said anything that challenges what I believe so we're even...
Do you just go into war killing everyone?
Or you kill one enemy?
In this case, the enemy is False Doctrine. And it was his battle with you, not mine. Attack him with all those your points.
I chose to interpret those scriptures you pointed out ,for you.
Now go ahead and see the understanding there, don't change the subject.

Back to Paul, Paul called himself a Jew, Jesus Christ also came as a Jew. But with different approaches to the Jewish Laws.

Paul (a Jew) followed and re-teached Jesus Christ's (a Jew) Teachings.
People started calling them (all the disciples including Paul) Christians, meaning 'Christ-like' — Acts 11:26
Paul (and the whole believers of Jesus) later adopted the word and started using it to preach to people, that both Jews like you and Gentiles like me should/can be 'Christ-like' — Acts 26:28 (Someone is asking Paul if Paul is persuading him to be a Christian, Paul answers Yes, and that he's also wishing that everyone should be the same, just like him)
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Maynman: 8:36am On Jul 17, 2023
preciousee17:


Back to Paul, Paul called himself a Jew, Jesus Christ also came as a Jew. But with different approaches to the Jewish Laws.

Paul (a Jew) followed and re-teached Jesus Christ's (a Jew) Teachings.
People started calling them (all the disciples including Paul) Christians, meaning 'Christ-like' — Acts 11:26
Paul (and the whole believers of Jesus) later adopted the word and started using it to preach to people, that both Jews like you and Gentiles like me should/can be 'Christ-like' — Acts 26:28 (Someone is asking Paul if Paul is persuading him to be a Christian, Paul answers Yes, and that he's also wishing that everyone should be the same, just like him)
Paul can’t call himself a “jew”, he is a jew by birth lol.
And besides the religion of jews is JUDAISM, jesus read the torah and preached in a temple.
It was outsiders that called them “Chrestian” as a way of ridicule.
Can you show me where they called themselves “Christians” before antioch or Were they nameless before antioch?

Which verse did paul and other believers later adopt a name given to them by “outsiders”?
They couldn’t name themselves?
How many times did they call themselves that?

Acts 26:28, it was antionia felix that was asking, Chrestians were pagan worshippers.
Paul was a Nazarene, your jewish savior was called “jesus of Nazareth”.

And hope you know there is a difference between jesus of Nazareth and Jesus the Christ you have now.

Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Nobody: 9:18am On Jul 17, 2023
Maynman:

Paul can’t call himself a “jew”, he is a jew by birth lol.
And besides the religion of jews is JUDAISM, jesus read the torah and preached in a temple.
It was outsiders that called them “Chrestian” as a way of ridicule.
Can you show me where they called themselves “Christians” before antioch or Were they nameless before antioch?

Which verse did paul and other believers later adopt a name given to them by “outsiders”?
They couldn’t name themselves?
How many times did they call themselves that?

Acts 26:28, it was antionia felix that was asking, Chrestians were pagan worshippers.
Paul was a Nazarene, your jewish savior was called “jesus of Nazareth”.

And hope you know there is a difference between jesus of Nazareth and Jesus the Christ you have now.

Rest boss.
Let me rest as well

You're using Wikipedia to counter the Bible?
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Maynman: 9:22am On Jul 17, 2023
preciousee17:


Rest boss.
Let me rest as well

You're using Wikipedia to counter the Bible?
I’m using history to better explain the collection of books you call “Bible”.

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Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 11:02am On Jul 17, 2023
Maynman:

I’m using history to better explain the collection of books you call “Bible”.

Only if the people and the writters of the Bible had Wikipedia during their time then the Bible would not disputes today
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Maynman: 11:07am On Jul 17, 2023
MindHacker9009:


Only if the people and the writters of the Bible had Wikipedia during their time then the Bible then there would have been not disputes today

They had better history book, they knew exactly what they were writing.
Look up “Hypsistos”, Religion is exciting.
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 12:01pm On Jul 17, 2023
Maynman:

They had better history book, they knew exactly what they were writing.
Look up “Hypsistos”, Religion is exciting.

At that time only those at the top could read and write that's why they could write the Bible the way is it to control the minds of the masses who could not read and write.
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by Maynman: 12:05pm On Jul 17, 2023
MindHacker9009:


At that time only those at the top could read and write that's why they could write the Bible the way is it to control the minds of the masses who could not read and write.
Did you look up what i told you to?
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by KnownUnknown: 12:22pm On Jul 17, 2023
MindHacker9009:


At that time only those at the top could read and write that's why they could write the Bible the way is it to control the minds of the masses who could not read and write.

But somehow you think your revered Hebrew shite is the “word of god”. Only the god of the Christians was invented, but the repulsive Hebrew shit you slave over isn’t. Right?
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 7:56pm On Jul 17, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Please which Jewish prophet wrote the book you're now quoting?
Is Romans not written by Romans again? cheesy

MaxInDHouse not even ashame quoting the Romans now shey?
Sebi you said the New Testament was written by the Romans?
Why making reference to what Romans wrote to back Judaism nah? cheesy

When you and the Romans are forcing your invented messiah on the Jews. The Jews have been saying for the paste 2000 years that they don't know anyone called this your invented messiah.
Why did your invented messiah not come as a gentile that accepted him and leave the Jews alone.

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Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:27pm On Jul 17, 2023
MindHacker9009:

When you and the Romans are forcing your invented messiah on the Jews. The Jews have been saying for the paste 2000 years that they don't know anyone called this your invented messiah.
Why did your invented messiah not come as a gentile that accepted him and leave the Jews alone.

Shame on you and your faithless Judaists Jesus of Nazareth has given us the power to preach, teach and make disciples of the people of all the nations! Act 1:8 wink
Re: Christians Say Jews Ar Unbeleivers, Jews Say Christians Are Pagans Who Is Right? by MindHacker9009(m): 7:44pm On Jul 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Shame on MaxInDHouse and your inventor of your Jesus of Nazareth has given your FAKE power to preach, teach and make zombies of the people of all the nations! Act 1:8 wink

Shame of you as you are helping your SCAM organisation to make zombies of your own brothers and sisters with your invented Jesus Christ.

If the Jews were to preach Judaism to third world countries the Jews will not leave them in the shithole you are in, the Jews fear God Almighty and will not pump an invented messiah into your head and leave people in a shithole country rather the Jews will make sure they develop these countries to their own standard.

Shame on you, your organisation and the top leaders are enjoying themselves in the USA but pumping the fake messiah into your head and you too are helping them to pump the same shit into the heads of your sisters and brothers.

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