Aquila99:


Please answer dis question. If this election is Annulled and a rerun is declared becos of 25% of FCT. What then happens if anoda one is held and the 1st candidate don't get 25% in FCT. Wat next will happen?

If there's a runoff, it will be between two candidates. When two people are running, it's impossible for the person with simple majority not to be able to gather at least 25% in Abuja because votes will be less splitted.

Chidibe212:
If you go to "Mama put" and you tell the woman to put *Rice AND beans* for you. she passes the plate to you and you saw only rice please what will be your response? With your answer to the question above also tell me why your number 1 with "AND FCT" isn't mandatory?

There's a school my childhood friend attended "Command Day Secondary school Enugu"

I was in their house when she came home with her first term result/report sheet.

Eight ( subjects was in her report sheet including English and Maths. She Aced 7 of the subjects including English but had D in Maths.

Guess what? "FAILED" with a red pen was written on her Result sheet because the rules of the school is that you will pass 5 of the subjects (either get A, B, or C grade) including English AND Maths.

Una sef..

All these your rice and beans analogies sef just dey crack me up.

There is no food like rice and beans. There is rice, there is beans.

Rice and beans is a mixture.

Nigeria is not known as 36 States,
Nigeria is not known as 37 States.
Nigeria is known as 36 States and The FCT.
"36 States and The FCT" was, is and will always be a collective.

So 25 percent in 2/3 of 36 States and The FCT,
As a statement is very very very two sided in my opinion.

You people should just stop trying to be English Gurus and call for that clause to be written to specifically mean what they intend to mean.

As for me, both interpretations are valid.


To agree with your second paragraph, there is no absurdity in mandating a President to meet the 25 percent in the FCT, since FCT has no governor and it's residents are under the direct rulership of the President.

It is also absurd in the sense that a candidate could win the entire 36 States by making more Ethan 25 percent but be disqualified simply because they got only 20 percent in The FCT.

OredoPikin:

you are still not getting it.

you must have 25% in FCT and 24 other states.
having it in FCT with 24 other states is not enough
having it in 36 states without FCT is also not enough

Why not just go and write English and Mathematics and forget about other subjects before seeking admission in University?

The letter of the law and the spirit of the law are two possible ways to regard rules, or laws. To obey the letter of the law is to follow the literal reading of the words of the law, whereas following the spirit of the law means enacting the intent behind the law. That's where the courts come in

Aquila99:


Please answer dis question. (1) If this election is Annulled and a rerun is declared becos of 25% of FCT. What then happens (2) if anoda one is held and the 1st candidate don't get 25% in FCT. Wat next will happen?

You said two different things but need an answer to number 2. And the answer is the 1st candidate failed. Why because there's a mandatory on FCT which is not a state but a Federal Capital.

Now lets Put it this way with a different assumption that you will understand using A and B.

(A) Let's assume FCT was just set aside in this election and the 36 states was shared to 3 different candidates meaning each candidate will have 12 states to themselves which is a Tag right?

Then the Federal territory capital (FCT) which is not a state will be brought in so as to get a winner between the 3 candidates.

(B) Candidate (a) secured 13 states, candidate (b) secured 12states and candidate (c) secured 11 states totalling 36 states and the rules of the game is that for a candidate to be declared a winner he MUST have 25% in 24 states out of 36 states including (AND) the FCT to be declared winner.

Now do a little work. Go back to the election and find out each candidate that got 25% in 24 states out of 36 states including (AND) FCT and tell me who won.

Guestlander:


You are not explaining why it is not enough to win in all the 36 states in Nigeria and still not win because you couldn't get 25% in the FCT. Are there more Nigerians living in the FCT? Are the votes in the FCT more special than the rest of the country?

it is what the law says bro

they are not special rather the law made abuja so.

after the current case in court, u can go to ur representative at the national assembly to move the emotion for its amendment.

as it stands now, abuja is considered special because its the FCT and its expected u get at least 25% there

OredoPikin:


it is what the law says bro

they are not special rather the law made abuja so.

after the current case in court, u can go to ur representative at the national assembly to move the emotion for its amendment.

as it stands now, abuja is considered special because its the FCT and its expected u get at least 25% there

Please sir, help me ask the guy you quoted that IF FCT is moved to Lagos will Lagos be called a State? I will see his response if he/she replies you. Lol

OredoPikin:


it is what the law says bro

they are not special rather the law made abuja so.

after the current case in court, u can go to ur representative at the national assembly to move the emotion for its amendment.

as it stands now, abuja is considered special because its the FCT and its expected u get at least 25% there

Pure nonsense, the constitution doesn't grant any special privileges to residents of Abuja especially in terms of voting.
Abuja is only giving the status of a state to protect the rights of the residents to participate in the voting process just like other Nigerians.
Obi is considered to have won 12 states even though he won 11 states and the FCT for this reason.

tesppidd:


Una sef..

All these your rice and beans analogies sef just dey crack me up.

There is no food like rice and beans. There is rice, there is beans.

Rice and beans is a mixture.

Nigeria is not known as 36 States,
Nigeria is not known as 37 States.
Nigeria is known as 36 States and The FCT.
"36 States and The FCT" was, is and will always be a collective.

So 25 percent in 2/3 of 36 States and The FCT,
As a statement is very very very two sided in my opinion.

You people should just stop trying to be English Gurus and call for that clause to be written to specifically mean what they intend to mean.

As for me, both interpretations are valid.


To agree with your second paragraph, there is no absurdity in mandating a President to meet the 25 percent in the FCT, since FCT has no governor and it's residents are under the direct rulership of the President.

It is also absurd in the sense that a candidate could win the entire 36 States by making more Ethan 25 percent but be disqualified simply because they got only 20 percent in The FCT.

Oya let me use another example of food. If you are drinking Garri and chose to add groundnut and coconut in the Garri. I spotted you and asked what you were eating please what will be your response?

Guestlander:


Pure nonsense, the constitution doesn't grant any special privileges to residents of Abuja especially in terms of voting.
Abuja is only giving the status of a state to protect the rights of the residents to participate in the voting process just like other Nigerians.
Obi is considered to have won 12 states even though he won 11 states and the FCT for this reason.

Please sir, Abuja is not a state. FCT is not a state. Let's assume you are from Benue state and FCT (which I believe you know the full meaning) is moved to Benue State, kindly note that Benue will no longer be regarded as a State but a Federal Capital Territory.

Obi won 11 states AND Abuja (which is not a state but FCT)

Chidibe212:


You said two different things but need an answer to number 2. And the answer is the 1st candidate failed. Why because there's a mandatory on FCT which is not a state but a Federal Capital.

Now lets Put it this way with a different assumption that you will understand using A and B.

(A) Let's assume FCT was just set aside in this election and the 36 states was shared to 3 different candidates meaning each candidate will have 12 states to themselves which is a Tag right?

Then the Federal territory capital (FCT) which is not a state will be brought in so as to get a winner between the 3 candidates.

(B) Candidate (a) secured 13 states, candidate (b) secured 12states and candidate (c) secured 11 states totalling 36 states and the rules of the game is that for a candidate to be declared a winner he MUST have 25% in 24 states out of 36 states including (AND) the FCT to be declared winner.

Now do a little work. Go back to the election and find out each candidate that got 25% in 24 states out of 36 states including (AND) FCT and tell me who won.

Ur answer is not straightforward. Explain in layman terms. From dis election. Only BAT passed dat 25% threshold. My earlier question is again. If dis election is canceled because BAT didn't get 25% in FCT. Wat will happen if a rerun is done and maybe Atiku is in dat position tomorrow without the 25% in FCT. So now are u in support of mandatory 25% in FCT or Not?

Chidibe212:


Please sir, Abuja is not a state. FCT is not a state. Let's assume you are from Benue state and FCT (which I believe you know the full meaning) is moved to Benue State, kindly note that Benue will no longer be regarded as a State but a Federal Capital Territory. Thanks

Who said Abuja is a state? In a previous Supreme Court ruling, Abuja FCT has been for the purpose of elections only regarded as a state. Like I said earlier, this is the reason why Obi is considered to have won 12 states when in fact he won in 11 states and Abuja.

Newton2024:
If there's a runoff, it will be between two candidates. When two people are running, it's impossible for the person with simple majority not to be able to gather at least 25% in Abuja because votes will be less splitted.

I know the case of runoff. What we have been hearing all dis while is that of rerun. Wch means all candidates will participate, not just the top 2.

Aquila99:


Ur answer is not straightforward. Explain in layman terms. From dis election. Only BAT passed dat 25% threshold. My earlier question is again. If dis election is canceled because BAT didn't get 25% in FCT. Wat will happen if a rerun is done and maybe Atiku is in dat position tomorrow without the 25% in FCT. So now are u in support of mandatory 25% in FCT or Not?

I am in support of "25%" in FCT AND other 24 states out of 36 states in Nigeria.

Chidibe212:


Oya let me use another example of food. If you are drinking Garri and chose to add groundnut and coconut in the Garri. I spotted you and asked what's are were eating please what will be your response?

Aquila99:


I know the case of runoff. What we have been hearing all dis while is that of rerun. Wch means all candidates will participate, not just the top 2.

People who are talking about rerun actually meant runoff. You know English is not our mate in Nigeria. Whatever makes the tribunal cancel the election will also make Tinubu ineligible to recontest in the runoff.

Guestlander:


Pure nonsense, the constitution doesn't grant any special privileges to residents of Abuja especially in terms of voting.
Abuja is only giving the status of a state to protect the rights of the residents to participate in the voting process just like other Nigerians.
Obi is considered to have won 12 states even though he won 11 states and the FCT for this reason.

That is ur own make up
On INEC report
It was clearly stated
Tinubu won 12 states even if we all know he didnt win RIVERS
Atiku won 12 states
Obi won 11 states and FCT
That was how it was written everywhere including INEC report
I wondered where u see Obi won 12 states 🤔

Again u guys can assume Anything in your head, it will not change what was written
Abuja people are not special but the status of Abuja as the seat of power offered that uniqueness to it.

tesppidd:

Lol.. you are laughing now bah? Lol.. that's how I was laughing when reading your comments. It's well. Don't mind my typo...I was typing fast to attend to something.

Throwback:


Nigeria is defined as 36 states and FCT, not 36 states including FCT.

That section of the law is not just a statement but defining all of Nigeria, hence, all states and FCT.

I saw this your crap the day u posted it,I just ignored just to reason the kind of brain in ur skull.

Your parents consist of who and who?
You father or mother alone abi?

The conjunction "And" is not necessary abi?

Ode, I'm not a supporter of any politician, but when something is written in black and white,say it as it is,no politician will pay u even if u defend them here till d end if ur life.

It's stated and the fct. simple

So from ur analysis, d simple definition of democracy doesn't mean government of the people,for the people and by the people.

Make una dey try get sense sometimes abeg.

Odes everywhere...

samuel051:
I saw this your crap the day u posted it,I just ignored just to reason the kind of brain in ur skull.

Your parents consist of who and who?
You father or mother alone abi?

The conjunction "And" is not necessary abi?

Ode, I'm not a supporter of any politician, but when something is written in black and white,say it as it is,no politician will pay u even if u defend them here till d end if ur life.

It's stated and the fct. simple

So from ur analysis, d simple definition of democracy doesn't mean government of the people,for the people and by the people.

Make una dey try get sense sometimes abeg.

Odes everywhere...

Why is it so hard for you lots to accept that the totality of Nigeria is all the states which happen to be 36 and FCT.

Even a primary school child know that Nigeria since 1996 is composed of 36 States and FCT.

States and FCT is a description for Nigeria beyond electoral matters. The AND has always been there to describe the FCT in conjuction with the 36 states.

So concerning the issue of national spread in elections where the totality of Nigeria is concerned, it must refer to all the states and FCT.

That is because FCT is not a state for Nigeria to be referred to as 37 States. So it must always have the conjunction AND between the 36 states and FCT as the totality of Nigeria.

For the purpose of the national spread, the winner of the majority or highest votes, must secure 25% in 2/3 of Nigeria, which is 2/3 of all the states and FCT.

If the electoral condition of 25% was to be applied individually to only all the 36 states, and individually to the FCT, there would be a comma before the AND (all the states, and FCT), or it would be stated as a separate sentence.

That is not the case.

So the AND represents the togetherness of all the 36 States and the FCT, just as every child knows that is the total composition of Nigeria.