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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 4:53pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Universities went on strike, does that mean they are not getting paid. You’ve been here saying people shouldn’t complain about subsidy removal that it takes balls to be a leader. Someone decided Hospitals and schools won’t act as they like and they all went on strike. Since that decision, we’ve been consistently top three in health care and secondary education. We having the best nursing school now built by same Obi… when I was visiting one public hospital there… you literally have one nurse to a patient sometimes and they actually do a good job with great customer service. Schools are better managed now that it’s in private hands but funded by the government… Hospital and schools should have boards with sense not ghost workers in ministries. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:55pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
obainojazz: Is Anambra debt free currently for you to say he paid back 185bn? You are arguing from a wrong premise. How did you get the information that Anambra built the airport for $1.2bn We like throwing numbers around in Nigeria sha. Shey Anambra wey the annual budget according to deadpresidents is about 300-400m Naira This yers budget of Anambra is 259bn Naira which is about $350M. yet we believe 4 times of it was spent on an airport. Shey people for the state no chop for that 4yrs
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 4:55pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
TrebleChamp:Money wey them go loot. Then they will go to every radio stations to announce that they have lifted millions of Nigerians out of poverty with the 8k monthly familly allowance. You will see some paid actors on Television praising the govt of Tinubu for his kind heart...lol. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:56pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Shaytun:It could also be argued that it's why standing on principles is more important than having positions vacillate based on who's expressing an opinion. Raumdeuter that's today saying subsidy removal is the best thing since sliced bread was then arguing that the removal was ill-timed, even though the economic conditions were better then than they are today. The BAT that removed the subsidy today then wrote an essay that is just as relevant today as it was then, but because he was looking to get power in 11 or so year's time, he played an active role in Nigeria pissing away its opportunity to remove subsidy removal. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 4:58pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Sounds ridiculous innit Same as the 185 billion…. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:00pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
obainojazz: Show us the source of your 1.2bn airport We like throwing numbers around in Nigeria sha. Shey Anambra wey the annual budget according to deadpresidents is about 300-400m Naira This years budget of Anambra is 259bn Naira which is about $350M which is probably the highest in state history. yet we believe 4 times of it was spent on an airport. Shey people for the state no chop for that 4yrs https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/12/07/anambra-assembly-passes-n259-9bn-budget-for-2023 So you actaully believe that Anambra spend 10yrs budget on an airport? Okay o
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:06pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Theflint1: We work with the realities of every time. At time it was okay for Nigeria to be playing big brother to other countries and be helping them finance budget and solve internal crisis, Now its no longer okay since we have bigger problems In 2011 we were almost debt free in 2023 we are neck deep in debt. Our creditors wont even lend us money again if we keep up. We were using 100% of our income to service debt So even if we want subsidy in 2023, it has to be with more and more debts which I believe many people especialy Obidients hate |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 5:09pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Soludo still budgeted 4billion to complete the airport recently… Where have you seen airport built for $18million and dubbed the most modern in Nigeria from your screenshots? 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:11pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 5:11pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: These are the things I saw when I always attacked his political submissions. As far as politics is concerned, dayo can NEVER be objective. The bias is too strong. I went hard on him because of this insensitivity to our plight especially coming from his lofty position far away but you guys kept shouting me down. Enjoy his insensitivity and braggadocio in the face of our suffering. You guys laid down this bed for him. Enjoy it. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:11pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
obainojazz: So 8bn plus 4bn from Soludo = 12bn Naira How 12bn Naira take equal $1.2bn Abi Dollar is now N10 ni? Maybe the thing don dey favor already |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 5:13pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Theflint1: We live in a Dynamic world not static. Positions vacillate based on new realities. Stop looking for Moral emotions from political actors, they lost that sense ages ago. Based on Okonjo Iweala Book that I read, Jonathan was well appraised on the Subsidy removal issue, in fact, All the major Government agencies were prepared for the pressure and protest that will arise from the removal, Okonjo even wrote that she told Jonathan how intense the pressure will get and advices him to hold out as that is what is best for the country to move forward. But Jonathan buckle under pressure, I’m not going to blame anyone apart from him. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:14pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Of course Dayo and his posts are torturing some people already 6 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 5:16pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Theflint1: As I've just said, NEVER expect objectivity from dayo as far as politics is concerned. The tribal bias is extreme. Blueray has posted here before how dayo himself was vehemently against subsidy removal under Jonathan. Today he has changed mouth because his person has said the same. When you catch dayo in contradiction of himself, he smiles and deflects as to how it shows that he's smart in making any side of an argument. It's all about winning an argument even though lives are involved. Tufia! 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 5:17pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
donjazzet: You supported the Naira policy bro, rest easy on the plight and insensitivity to Nigerians. Heck you supported a painful policy that was more political than economical, you wouldn’t know insensitivity if it hit you in the face. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:18pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Shaytun:Fair point, and I get, just wasn't comfortable with BAT being hailed as some sort of hero for removing subsidy given his precedents. He has removed it, all well and good. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:20pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Anyone thats not a psych patient should suggest what the govt should have done instead 1. We are paying subsidy with debt. At a time 100% of National income was used to pay subsidy What should we do? Option 1 remove subsidy - If you agree to remove subsidy what do you understand by it and what do you really expect when subsidy is removed Option 2 Continue with subsidy with borrowed funds which 100% of national income pays |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:23pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Theflint1: He is a hero for removing it. Almost all former presidents knew it was the right thing to do, promised to do it but chickened out for their selfish political goodwill Tinubu is willing to sacrifice his political goodwill from day 1 to remove subsidy and do the right thing I posted the below in December before Tinubu won the election raumdeuter: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Incognito9: 5:25pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: Does this hardship affect dayo? No Instead of admitting tinubu's wrong call, he will turn Amala on it. It affects la.rride that's why he speak up and he's a guy that doesn't have time for Amala turning. What of Oasis? He will soon come here shinning teeth and posting pictures up-and-down. 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 5:26pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
raumdeuter:They can donate buses to each state or something to alleviate the suffering. One past governor donated buses to school even though izzou and co said it’s not financially POssible 🌝 I tell you it’s possible when you hold everyone accountable 5 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:28pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
obainojazz: Why will it be the FG responsibility to donate buses when they have increased state allocation? why can't state used the increased allocation to buy what their people need. Nasarawa need buses, Bayelsa needs canoes, Katsina needs camels Seems most Nigerians havent come to terms with what a Federal system of govt means. Its the state and LGA who are closer to the people that will cater to their needs the most. We all vote governors lets hold them accountble 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:29pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
raumdeuter:You expected your guy to win, was willing to bet on it somewhat, many would say it was you laying ground work for today when you declare him a hero I'd probably say you're the one that knows about Tinubu's style of governance the most and can predict how he'd go about his government, and that's commendable, and if it's not going the way you predicted, every ready to turn Amala 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:30pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
obainojazz:They can also discount or waive duties for importers bringing in buses for mass transit for the time being. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:31pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Incognito9: What is your proposed solution to the issue? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:32pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Theflint1: If Tinubu didn't remove subsidy like he claimed that will mean he is no different from the others who ruled before him that promised and chickened out |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:34pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
raumdeuter:And trust you'd be here to give him a soft landing either way |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 5:37pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Lmao.. We were borrowing to pay subsidy.. Please someone tell me how buhari was able to get nnpc to handle that payment even though it was a Limited Company. How did buhari figure out it was possible to do that? If tinubu had done that knowing he didn't have any Immediate plans plus the fact politicians were going to insult us with this 70b thing.. Then maybe we would be breathing a little bit easier 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 5:37pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
raumdeuter:Doesn’t mean Federal government can’t step in…. Even in US and Australia where states have more powers… The Federal. Government do step in sometimes. Tinubu removed subsidy and not state governors He did that without consulting them and rubbing minds together. Some governors literally just got elected and he’s already putting them in this situation. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 5:38pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 5:40pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Theflint1:They want to increase revenue by force… nothing will be discounted |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:49pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
obainojazz: Why should the FG step in here? Is it that the governors are not competent to do what they got voted in to do? The FG has stepped in enough by giving more money to the states to help their people. Do you want the FG to go over the SG and give to the people? Who will be in charge of maintenance of the vehicle? Will that be state govt? or will it be FG? State gov Makinde will say I didn't send you message to buy buses when you want to dump maintenance on me. This is how the buses will get auctioned to Young shall Grow or Agofure in 9months abi FG will create another ministry for maintenance of FG vehicles when we already have overbloated spending |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:50pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Theflint1: The soft landing will be that Tinubu is just like others before him. Now he has shown that he has more balls than those before him 3rd term loading 2031 to 2035 |
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