seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5m today fir traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

Oga why?
So if vio or roadsafety fines you 5m, you will not not challenge it? You will pay the 5m, especially when you know you commited no such offence, even if you did, to challenge the fine as being excessive?
Haba, Let's fear God oh.

Definitely not enough like many of your foolish hopeless ipob tribesmen we see beheaded week in week out in Cambodia Malaysia Singapore China Japan n others

NwaNimo1:
Just imagine the amount of #Crack Heroine' he must have pushed!

As the Pandoraa criminal Peter Obi cleared is name on tax evasion by next in the UK or as the oloriburuku bastard cleared his name in this daughter Gabrielle Pandora account saga or the ₦250 million Marvel Akpoyibo caught the fool with in his warehouse in Orile Lagos or na slow motion he wan use close those ones ?

Okwyjesus:


If you're way no pure you go sharp sharp ignore the forfeiture.

But if you sure say you pure , you will want to clear your name and integrity.

That's how innocent people approach injustice

MTNnews:
As the Pandoraa criminal Peter Obi cleared is name on tax evasion by next in the UK or as the oloriburuku bastard cleared his name in this daughter Gabrielle Pandora account saga or the ₦250 million Akpoyibo caught the fool with in his warehouse in Orile Lagos or na slow motion he wan use close those ones ?

Keep crying, Tinubu is a criminal drug cartel, he will be disgraced out of office, if you like wail from today to millions years to come

So Obi's lawyers are no longer saying president Tinubu was convicted as per their petition, they are now talking about forfeiture. Effectively, we are now been told that he should be disqualified because he didn't appeal a forfeiture order.

True story from the US state of California . A hitman killed a serving police officer and somehow a police informant led the police to him.

The police case wasn't strong and in truth, though they wanted to nail him, they looked at the bigger picture. They did a deal with him whereby he was never convicted but he told them who hired him and served as a witness in court for the prosecution in the case against the officer that hired him who later got convicted.

No charges were brought against the hitman and he is still goes about his life without being treated as a felon though he has sworn on oath that he committed a murder.

Point is, like President Tinubu, the hitman might have been a naughty boy but he was never convicted of a crime to assume the status of a felon and can still vote (not sure if Cali is one of the states that barr convicted felons from voting sha).

On a side note, do Obi's lawyers even know the difference between a misdemeanor, felony or grand lacerny? If I pick up a parking fine in the US, would those bunch of jokers claim I can't contest as president?

It's a shame Obi didn't hire them pro bono, this case would have ended ages ago.

Obi won the election and have proved it in court, but is it a crime to bring out Tinubu other criminal records? from Ogunlere Amoda Yekini to Ahmed Tinubu, what a character spit

Obi is like what Iwe Mimo Bibeli described as efufulele ti afefe gbe kiri
Today na Tinubu did not challenge kini Kan so diafore e gbe kini yi wa
Didinrin agba

My advice is for Tinubu fan boys and ass lickers to keep far away from sniper on the verdict day when Amoda Ogunlere Yekini aka Tinubu the drug cartel criminal is disgraced from Aso rock soon.
don't say you are not warned

OfficialAPCNig:

Read the address

You throw in every advantages you have to the ring to win a case. LP prayer is for the court to declare PO as the winner or invalidate Tinubu and declare a rerun

Declare obi winner with which figures? Lol.... can you help us with the figures please? This is the point. You expect the judges to carry calculator and be doing plus and minus for obi?

SledgeHammerer:



Declare obi winner with which figures? Lol.... can you help us with the figures please? This is the point. You expect the judges to carry calculator and be doing plus and minus for obi?

How can you understand what he said when you have already replaced your brain with Agbado

slowice:


Yes oo he gift them over 400 thousand dollars to use and buy bread for their children... Otondo

As you sabi pass the people wey seize the money carry go

PaellaPaella:





How can you understand what he said when you have already replaced your brain with Agbado

Resorting to insult in a debate is a sign of intellectual dwarfism.

Answer the question I asked you. Give us the figures with which you expect the court to declare obi winner of the election.

Philgafauto:
It is an NCBF - Non-Conviction-based Forfeiture. It is an action in rem, not in personam. It was an action against Tinubu's property, not Tinubu himself. So maybe there is nothing to really appeal against from Tinubu's standpoint.

Appealing against it may have angered the Justice Department and FBI to pursue criminal charges (if they found probable cause, which will involve them empaneling a grand jury). So Tinubu just decided to forget about it since the only thing he lost was money.

That is just my opinion though

Yeah.

He just decided to leave it as Father Christmas abi?

Philgafauto:


This is logical argument. The judges ought to reason that why should a man be willing to forfeit $400k just like that without fighting it on appeal up to the US Supreme Court if he was not guilty of a crime?

But the nomenclature does matter sha. If it is a civil forfeiture, the nature of the activities which produced the illicit proceeds does not or will not matter to a judge. The most important thing is that it has been adjudged by a US Court to be a Civil forfeiture.

That is why law is about logic and reasoning. Well done. I hope it was included in LP written address sha?

Why are you asking me if it was included in Obi’s written address?

Are you not the one that made a post earlier claiming that Obi’s written address is watery? How come you don’t know its content again?

Only God can make Obi win

Make I save a copy of this

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5m today fir traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

This Tinubu of a man is a confirmed criminal. Forfeiture of 460, 000 dollars to narcotics in 1993 without attempting to clear your name is not a mean joke. The sitting CJN made a judgement that forfeiture is made as a result of a crime committed.

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case? So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5m today fir traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

You are a hypocrite and irredeemably shameless in defending evil. People of your kind are societal nuisance.

Penguin2:

The question is was VIO supposed to charge you a whopping N5million for mere traffic offense?

And this is a wrong analogy because Tinubu’s (not his bank account) offense was clearly written in the charge sheet - he was charged for narcotics. There’s nothing comparable between this and traffic offense.

Now, not only was he charged, he was ordered to forfeit a whopping $460,000 dollars and he never protested against it if he was truly innocent.

No legitimate hustler will allow the court confiscate his $10,000 dollars without threatening fire and brimstone, not to talk of when the money is above $400k.....

Someone can never support or defend Tinubu without his brain or sense of reasoning intact.

Penguin2:

The question is was VIO supposed to charge you a whopping N5million for mere traffic offense?

And this is a wrong analogy because Tinubu’s (not his bank account) offense was clearly written in the charge sheet - he was charged for narcotics. There’s nothing comparable between this and traffic offense.

Now, not only was he charged, he was ordered to forfeit a whopping $460,000 dollars and he never protested against it if he was truly innocent.

No legitimate hustler will allow the court confiscate his $10,000 dollars without threatening fire and brimstone, not to talk of when the money is above $400k.

Is Tinubu a Father Christmas?

Where in the world is narcotics then chargedas a civil forfeiture case instead of criminal case.. Zombie.. Una no get critical thinking.. So nacortics according to you now is no longer a criminal offence?

iLoveYouToo:


As you sabi pass the people wey seize the money carry go

Na Pablo Escobar you defend like dis? No be say make e go push drug for away stop crying you dey disturb me

iLoveYouToo:
What’s he challenging it for? There was a forfeiture for fvck sake, he’s not denying that. It wasn’t a criminal matter

Chai see black man and kobo kobo sense! Anyway we will see at the end of 4 years what your president is able to achieve! Money cannot buy competence!

ebufa:




Chai see black man and kobo kobo sense! Anyway we will see at the end of 4 years what your president is able to achieve! Money cannot buy competence!

'We' always claim to be the wisest but end up fooling 'ourselves'

Philgafauto:

...I hope it was included in LP written address sha?

Strange that you should be asking this at 11:39 PM.

You created a thread at 2:35 PM to say this:

Philgafauto:
..i expected more from Peter Obi's lawyers. While i may be a junior colleague of theirs, i am not happy with the quality of the written address. The address lacks coherence, logical flow and is filled with grammatical errors.

It is clear you formed an opinion before actually reading the address, which you hadn't still done yesterday else you'd have known the contents.🤷🏾‍♂️

Which begs the question, how many half-truths are in this submission of yours?

Kukutente23:

Narcotics is more than fraud or dishonesty. It's worse than the two. Very close to murder.

Yes but it is neither fraud or dishonesty.there was no judgement sentencing him for narcotics charge,just an interim order

Penguin2:
If Tinubu is innocent of the allegations in the forfeiture order of the US Court of the District of Illinois, why has he not appealed that forfeiture order issued since 1993? Isn’t that what innocent people do?

https://saharareporters.com/2023/07/21/tinubu-hasnt-challenged-us-court-order-forfeiture-460000-narcotics-trafficking-any-court

as an Igbo , I support Tinubu 43% and obi 57%.

If Tinubu had won squarely ,everyone would have congratulated him, but I can't understand why he had to spend that much on rigging . Now he got himself into a quagmire

Of course Pandoraa Peter Obi criminal case should not be talked about because foolish igbos like you want to claim he is a saint n not a Nigeria politician na only Tinubu be Nigeria politician that is a criminal, foolish set of Igbos everywhere. Obidaftis !

PaellaPaella:

Keep crying, Tinubu is a criminal drug cartel, he will be disgraced out of office, if you like wail from today to millions years to come

But fools like you supporting a Pandora criminal that looted mercilessly imo his daughter Gabrielle Pandora account, banished from the UK for Next fraud, caught looting over ₦250 million raw cash by Marvel Akpoyibo then Lagos commissioner are not hypocrite you are saint advocate ba ?

Many of you Obidafties don't know you deserve to be stoned to death when you defend are daredevil criminal n label those that have no committed 1/10 of the crimes Peter Obi committed as criminal.

Paperwhite:
You are a hypocrite and irredeemably shameless in defending evil. People of your kind are societal nuisance.

MTNnews:
Of course Pandoraa Peter Obi criminal case should not be talked about because foolish igbos like you want to claim he is a saint n not a Nigeria politician na only Tinubu be Nigeria politician that is a criminal, foolish set of Igbos everywhere. Obidaftis !

I don't know you . But you can take my word to the bank . In the ranking of holiness Tinubu is zero% and obi is 98.7%

MTNnews:
But fools like you supporting a Pandora criminal that looted mercilessly imo his daughter Gabrielle Pandora account, banished from the UK for Next fraud, caught looting over ₦250 million raw cash by Marvel Akpoyibo then Lagos commissioner are not hypocrite you are saint advocate ba ?

Many of you Obidafties don't know you deserve to be stoned to death when you defend are daredevil criminal n label those that have no committed 1/10 of the crimes Peter Obi committed as criminal.

Obi never stole penny all his life . Your 250m propaganda stems out of your oduduwa head

No mind them comprehension is their problem we say civil not criminal but they keep shouting forfeiture.

The forfeiture is not in dispute but what is relevant to the issue at hand is whether criminal which it is not.

When one deals with the ignorant and unintelligent you have to let them be.

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his account. So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

pquaver:


Where in the world is narcotics then chargedas a civil forfeiture case instead of criminal case.. Zombie.. Una no get critical thinking.. So nacortics according to you now is no longer a criminal offence?

Therefore?🙄