africanman85:
Is not about exams but there attitude to work. Nigerian doctors are pompous and Neglect there patients expecially in all this teaching hospitals and Fmcs. When they go abroad, they will behave well.

Did you read the Op or you just dey talk your own?

which Universities in Scotland?

ArewaNorth:

I hope you know Ukraine, Scotland are one of the centres of fake university certificates linked to Nigerians, many times NUC warn Nigerians against attending some of those universities!

Trustedpronet:
The psychological trauma in the country can make you fail ordinary arithmetic for primary 3.

That's not true...I challenge the authority to publish the names and state of origin of those who failed

FreeStuffsNG:


https://punchng.com/529-foreign-trained-doctors-failed-medical-exam-mdcn/

Foreign medical student don't go through tough exams,why give them Nigeria exam that is hard? Why don't MDCN give them questions like 1+a=1a so that all of them will pass. Especially now that our best Doctors have japa. We can manage the foreign trained Doctor that are back to the country

Fr33born:
What do they really mean by foreign ? In which countries were they trained?

No wonder UK is packing all our Nigerian trained doctors.

I challenge the authority to publish the names and state of origin of those who failed...

Opari oo, foreign trained doctors? what are they doing in Nigeria? When others dey japa.
Surely they are not good to earn job abroad, they are here to form foreign graduates to discriminate home base, thumbs up to the system for the assessment. This shows our core value, we have standard.

I don't know why japa is not on my book, i can travel abroad for courses and pleasure but to go and leave there is a no no for me o i die here no matter what, home is better.

Did they actually fail or you fail them to ridicule them?

FreeStuffsNG:
Lobatan. Foreign doesn't mean better.They should study harder for the resit. Check my signature for free stuffs!

It's because you don't understand how exams work. In Nigeria Universities, people hardly score up to 90 unlike foreign universities (US for example).

In Nigeria, academics is filled with hard jargons that are often outdated and aren't useful.

You are very correct with this assertion, Nigeria's schools have no evaluation system they keep on turning in circle.

InvertedHammer:

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I beg to differ.

The question is: What is the structure of the examination?

It is difficult to study and train with modern equipment and be tested on archaic practices bordering on "cram and vomit". Many Nigerians who excelled in many professions abroad were initialed failed in Nigerian schools. Do you ever wonder why? Last time I checked, graduates from Nigerian universities are not world class. They need to update their curricula. Don't be surprised that it is the same exams that they used in the 1980s that they are still using in 2023.

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salbis:
May be there is difference between local and foreign ways of assessment.

Good. That's one of the reasons. Not saying some of them aren't dullards but assessment methodology may impact in their exams

Nuff said

Brendaniel:
What this simply means is that most of the doctors that came here are among the worst from foreign countries.

So while we send most of our best to foreign countries they in turn send most of their worst to our country

Brendaniel:
What this simply means is that most of the doctors that came here are among the worst from foreign countries.

So while we send most of our best to foreign countries they in turn send most of their worst to our country

They didn't send them there. Those foreign docs are actually Nigerians who trained abroad, and decided to work back home

thorpido:
Did you read the Op or you just dey talk your own?

The guy dey write wetin concern am, not for this topic

updatechange:
Wasted money, wasted education… Nigeria trained doctors are better than their abroad counterparts

No sir. Each country have their good and bad docs

RECTEM:
It still amazes me why anyone would spend so much studying overseas,only to return to Nigeria to hustle for a licence to practice.

Penny wise,pound foolish venture

True

jaephoenix:
It doesn't mean the IMGs (International Medical Graduates) are dullards. It simply means we use a different yardstick here. Those IMGs satisfied their foreign trainers who based their assessments on pathologies endemic in their environment, and some management regimen obtained in their climes.
MDCN conduct their exams based on tropical diseases with Nigeria as a case point. Example is Cystic Fibrosis. Its almost impossible to see a Nigerian with this. But its common in the UK etc. So UK trained docs would be quite comfortable managing it. Thus their exams would consist more of such cases. Now look at Sickle Cell Disease. This is endemic in Nigeria and kinda rare in Caucasians. We know how to manage it and thus our exams (and this MDCN assessment) would feature it hugely. A IMG would not know much about it.
I took the exam even though I'm Nigerian trained. Long story

Thank you. This is the simple fact and a well sounded summary above. Unfortunately this explanation isn't for the common demographics on nairaland, most of who have chosen to be permanently bitter, obtuse and deliberately hateful to doctors as usual.

During my 500L, my teaching hospital hosted them, and I understood how/why these FMGs struggled due to being in an unfamiliar medical terrain, and coupled with the Nigerian factor which we all know, most failed. Some of those who who failed are now near being specialists with me in the UK.

I guess you took the exam as your Centre had MDCN accreditation issues?

DSS1335:
They should be specific of what they meant by foreign-trained medical graduates.
I observed it is very easy to obtain an MBBS/BDS degree from other African institutes compared to European. I won't be surprised that the majority of those who failed this assessment were students who couldn't make it in Nigerian institutions but made it big in University of Sudan, Gambia, Mozambique, Cameroon, Lesotho, etc. Thumbs up to MBBS graduates of Uniport, UI, Unilag, UNN, etc, if they can succeed through the rigorous training here they can succeed anywhere in the world

Majority are Russian made doctors....They mostly go to Russia and not African countries

Lukuluku69:


Of course your are right but don't you think is is best to test these Foreign Grads in areas they would most often face since the Test is for a License for those that want to practice here in Nigeria?

I didn’t say MDCN did something wrong. What I'm saying is the IMGs are exactly dunces for failing Nigerian exams since it wasn't their fortes. Nigerian docs also fail PLAB and USMLE too. Its how medical practice is structured

285? Which Federal school be that ? Maybe Federal University of Jigawa

Okiton:

Have the required jamb score of 285 to study med/surgery in Nigeria government and going the rigorous daily stress is a prove that Nigerian medical graduates are intelligent

Jeezuzpick:


Nigerian Medical Schools are among the best in the world, and the developed world knows it.

That's why Nigeria-trained doctors easily slide into their hospitals like say na Instagram DM.

Please stop posting falsehood. Do your research if you must. Nigerian medical schools aren't amongst the best in the world. We just have smart students that get trained in poor or average medical schools. We make extra efforts and dig into our 'smart boxes' when we take foreign exams

spiceadole:
It still amazes me why anyone would spend so much studying overseas,only to return to Nigeria to hustle for a licence to practice.

Penny wise,pound foolish venture

Some are kids of wealthy folks and they want to open their own hospitals. Not necessarily to job hunt.

Why can't they publish the names of those that passed and those that failed.

Its obvious Peter Gringory Obi will soon react on this.

FreeStuffsNG:
Lobatan. Foreign doesn't mean better.They should study harder for the resit. Check my signature for free stuffs!

The foreign needs to be defined because the likes of Benin Rep, Niger Rep, Ghana, Cameroon.....are also foreign countries

InvertedHammer:

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I beg to differ.

The question is: What is the structure of the examination?

It is difficult to study and train with modern equipment and be tested on archaic practices bordering on "cram and vomit". Many Nigerians who excelled in many professions abroad were initialed failed in Nigerian schools. Do you ever wonder why? Last time I checked, graduates from Nigerian universities are not world class. They need to update their curricula. Don't be surprised that it is the same exams that they used in the 1980s that they are still using in 2023.

Talk to doctors in your Teaching Hospitals about laparoscopic surgery or even common bronchoscopy, they will look at you like an alien.

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Correct. Mentioned it in my post. Exam methodology is another problem MDCN have to improve.
Our guys here are lagging far behind in best medical practices worldwide. Its when we go on international conferences that we realize we are actually practicing cut and join medicine here

Nigeria just want to hype her standard to discourage others from moving abroad.

InvertedHammer:

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I beg to differ.

The question is: What is the structure of the examination?

It is difficult to study and train with modern equipment and be tested on archaic practices bordering on "cram and vomit". Many Nigerians who excelled in many professions abroad were initialed failed in Nigerian schools. Do you ever wonder why? Last time I checked, graduates from Nigerian universities are not world class. They need to update their curricula. Don't be surprised that it is the same exams that they used in the 1980s that they are still using in 2023.

Talk to doctors in your Teaching Hospitals about laparoscopic surgery or even common bronchoscopy, they will look at you like an alien.

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No doctor in any teaching hospital who wouldn't know what laparoscopic surgery or bronchoscopy is, unless he or she doesn't know what he is doing...Even a medical student knows it.Dont exaggerate while trying to make sense..

But Nigeria educational curriculum is due for some adjustments though.

thorpido:
Did you read the Op or you just dey talk your own?

Hes a Nigerian. Not interested in the topic or logic

Just listen to yourself, making excuses for the white man’s level of education. Cos don’t know why you hastily believed theirs might not be included.

DSS1335:
They should be specific of what they meant by foreign-trained medical graduates.
I observed it is very easy to obtain an MBBS/BDS degree from other African institutes compared to European. I won't be surprised that the majority of those who failed this assessment were students who couldn't make it in Nigerian institutions but made it big in University of Sudan, Gambia, Mozambique, Cameroon, Lesotho, etc. Thumbs up to MBBS graduates of Uniport, UI, Unilag, UNN, etc, if they can succeed through the rigorous training here they can succeed anywhere in the world

jaephoenix:

No sir. Each country have their good and bad docs

And why are most of ours meeting their own standards and theirs ain’t leveling up?

April396949:
It is concerning to hear that 529 foreign-trained doctors failed a medical exam conducted by the Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria (MDCN). This raises questions about the quality of medical education and training in these foreign institutions.

The MDCN plays a vital role in ensuring the competence and proficiency of doctors in Nigeria. The fact that such a high number of foreign-trained doctors failed the exam highlights the importance of stringent assessment measures to maintain patient safety and uphold medical standards.

It is crucial for the MDCN to thoroughly investigate the reasons behind this high failure rate. Factors such as inadequate education, lack of clinical exposure, or insufficient preparation for the exam must be addressed to prevent the influx of underqualified doctors into the Nigerian healthcare system.

Simultaneously, it is essential to evaluate Nigerian medical schools' capacity to produce enough well-trained doctors to meet the growing healthcare needs of the population. If the country is heavily relying on foreign-trained doctors to bridge the healthcare gap, it is essential to ensure that they receive the necessary support and guidance to successfully integrate into the healthcare system.

This situation also calls for collaboration between Nigerian and foreign medical institutions to establish stricter quality control measures for medical education and training. Efforts should focus on sharing best practices, regular assessments, and learning from successful healthcare systems globally.

Ultimately, the goal should be to ensure that all doctors practicing in Nigeria, whether foreign-trained or locally educated, meet the highest standards of medical competence and professionalism to guarantee the provision of safe and effective healthcare services to the Nigerian people.

Find out the pass rate for foreign medical graduates writing the United kingdom medical exam first.If you arent trained in a country you will struggle to pass their exam as your primary medical qualification isn't from there.una dey myopic gann

Eazeee:
U guys are forgetting or ignoring the fact that one of the reason for the failure may be because the foreign trained doctors refuse to ''settle'' the Medical Council. I have personally seen that done in the past. Carry out proper investigation on the cause of the failure & you may be shocked

529 people refused to.settle?

It amazes me when people suddenly introduce this angle when failure in exams are being discussed.

We need a change of orientation in this country. When a student passes, it is I passed. When he fails, it turns to they failed me.

Na wa o.

Thank God JAMB has passed that stage.

Shaky Japa dreams ...well I guess they can try again