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A Question For Thought by Mikel99(m): 1:06am On Jul 24, 2023
Will God punish an AI which accidentally becomes sentient with the sense of right and wrong if it does evil?
Will God consider it human?
This is a thoughtful question which enters into the deep part of philosophy and religion.
Re: A Question For Thought by NNTR: 2:18am On Jul 24, 2023
Mikel99:
Will God punish an AI which accidentally becomes sentient with the sense of right and wrong if it does evil?
Will God consider it human?
This is a thoughtful question which enters into the deep part of philosophy and religion.
Romans 10:8b-13
8b... This is the message about faith that we are proclaiming:
9If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord,
and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10For one believes with his heart and is justified, and declares with his mouth and is saved.
11The Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will never be ashamed.”
12There is no difference between Jew and Greek,
because they all have the same Lord, who gives richly to all who call on him.
13“Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.


Isaiah 13:11
I will punish the world for its evil,
and the wicked for their iniquity;
I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant,
and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless.


This is an open-and-shut case, as Romans 10:8b-13 and Isaiah 13:11 are self-evident truths, answering your questions

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 4:20am On Jul 24, 2023
NNTR:
Romans 10:8b-13
8b... This is the message about faith that we are proclaiming:
9If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord,
and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10For one believes with his heart and is justified, and declares with his mouth and is saved.
11The Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will never be ashamed.”
12There is no difference between Jew and Greek,
because they all have the same Lord, who gives richly to all who call on him.
13“Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.


Isaiah 13:11
I will punish the world for its evil,
and the wicked for their iniquity;
I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant,
and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless.


This is an open-and-shut case, as Romans 10:8b-13 and Isaiah 13:11 are self-evident truths, answering your questions

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

So Jesus died for aliens too or do they have their own Jesus?

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Re: A Question For Thought by Image123(m): 5:23am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


So Jesus died for aliens too or do they have their own Jesus?

John 3v16. Stop asking foolish questions Reed.

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Re: A Question For Thought by Image123(m): 5:25am On Jul 24, 2023
Mikel99:
Will God punish an AI which accidentally becomes sentient with the sense of right and wrong if it does evil?
Will God consider it human?
This is a thoughtful question which enters into the deep part of philosophy and religion.

AI doesn't have a soul or spirit. AI doesn't 'live' forever like man. 🤦‍♂️

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Re: A Question For Thought by MrsTwrite(f): 7:00am On Jul 24, 2023
Dear poster, 1. Does Aliens or AI exist physically?
2. Who created them?
3. Do they posses the five senses as humans do?
4. Do they have body, soul and spirit?
Re: A Question For Thought by NNTR: 8:01am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:
So Jesus died for aliens too or do they have their own Jesus?
You're absolutely spot on, salvation is only for human beings, whereas anything else that isnt human (e.g. AI, aliens, celestial beings, animals et cetera) would incur the wrath of God for being evil

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 8:02am On Jul 24, 2023
NNTR:
You're absolutely spot on, salvation is only for human beings, whereas anything else that isnt human (e.g. AI, aliens, celestial beings, animals et cetera) would incur the wrath of God for being evil

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

So the god didn't plan for their salvation?
Re: A Question For Thought by NNTR: 8:04am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:
So the god didn't plan for their salvation?
Salvation is only for human beings, and this simply is because they are the only souls, created in the image of God and likeness of the Godhead, whereas anything else that isnt human (e.g. AI, aliens, celestial beings, animals et cetera) would incur the wrath of God for being evil

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: A Question For Thought by Image123(m): 8:12am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


So the god didn't plan for their salvation?

You're been intentional about this dumbness right?
Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 8:55am On Jul 24, 2023
NNTR:
Salvation is only for human beings, and this simply is because they are the only souls, created in the image of God and likeness of the Godhead, whereas anything else that isnt human (e.g. AI, aliens, celestial beings, animals et cetera) would incur the wrath of God for being evil

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

So would aliens be in heaven since they don't need salvation?
Re: A Question For Thought by NNTR: 9:26am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:
So would aliens be in heaven ...
Definitely yes, that's if you mean celestial beings

LordReed:
.... since they don't need salvation?
They dont salvation, because they've chosen to take a stand with Satan

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: A Question For Thought by Maynman: 9:29am On Jul 24, 2023
NNTR:
Definitely yes, that's if you mean celestial beings

They dont salvation, because they've chosen to take a stand with Satan

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

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Re: A Question For Thought by Image123(m): 10:18am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


So would aliens be in heaven since they don't need salvation?

You're obviously not after the truth but after winning an argument to massage your self deception that you are okay. All have sinned, take it to the nearest bank.
Re: A Question For Thought by Maynman: 10:19am On Jul 24, 2023
Image123:


All have sinned
How can ALL the product in a batch be infected and you are blaming the products, shouldn’t you blame the producer for not doing a good job and producing defective products?
Or is it that this Omniscience god wanted ALL to sin to justify his tyranny?

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Re: A Question For Thought by Image123(m): 10:23am On Jul 24, 2023
Maynman:

How can ALL the product in a batch be infected and you are blaming the products, shouldn’t you blame the producer for not doing a good job and producing defective products?
Or is it that this Omniscience god wanted ALL to sin to justify his tyranny?

See that doctor, you are off tangent as usual.
Re: A Question For Thought by Maynman: 10:24am On Jul 24, 2023
Says a slave that “believes” a snake can talk.
Image123:


See that doctor, you are off tangent as usual.
Get off the bondage of the jews, defending your jewish slave masters as usual.

A creation is a reflection of his creator.
Re: A Question For Thought by Nobody: 11:06am On Jul 24, 2023
Mikel99:
Will God punish an AI which accidentally becomes sentient with the sense of right and wrong if it does evil?
Will God consider it human?
This is a thoughtful question which enters into the deep part of philosophy and religion.

My view:
God will only punish it if they manage to give it a soul.
The Bible talked about humans creating humans so that's pretty sure going to happen.
Only that it won't have a soul.
Will Gid punish a computer algorithm? No.
It's the same thing.

Remember when Angels slept with humans and had children?
Those ones had a soul.

But an AI is just LLMs patched with algorithms and later on, a physical body (just like any robot as in self driving cars)

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Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 11:07am On Jul 24, 2023
NNTR:
Definitely yes, that's if you mean celestial beings

They dont salvation, because they've chosen to take a stand with Satan

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

No I don't mean celestial beings, I mean humanoids or other forms of sentient beings from other planets.

Did Satan go to other planets to entice them?

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Re: A Question For Thought by Nobody: 11:08am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


So Jesus died for aliens too or do they have their own Jesus?

You believe in Aliens?
Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 11:08am On Jul 24, 2023
preciousee17:


My view:
God will only punish it if they manage to give it a soul.
The Bible talked about humans creating humans so that's pretty sure going to happen.
Only that it won't have a soul.
Will Gid punish a computer algorithm? No.
It's the same thing.

Remember when Angels slept with humans and had children?
Those ones had a soul.

But an AI is just LLMs patched with algorithms and later on, a physical body (just like any robot as in self driving cars)

What is a soul?
Re: A Question For Thought by Maynman: 11:10am On Jul 24, 2023
preciousee17:


You believe in Aliens?
What is a “Alien” and why are you so obsessed with “beliefs”?
In one of your 66 books you call bible it says, seek knowledge not beliefs.
Preciousee17

Re: A Question For Thought by Nobody: 11:11am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


What is a soul?

I would say it's a mind.
Not created manually...
Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 11:30am On Jul 24, 2023
preciousee17:


You believe in Aliens?

It's possible they exist. The universe has billions of planets, it is reasonable that even if life occurred in only 1% of them there'd be at least some with sentient life like ours.

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Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 11:30am On Jul 24, 2023
preciousee17:


I would say it's a mind.
Not created manually...

Well, created in what way?
Re: A Question For Thought by Nobody: 11:36am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


It's possible they exist. The universe has billions of planets, it is reasonable that even if life occurred in only 1% of them there'd be at least some with sentient life like ours.

The main reason for the question is:
No one really has tangible proof that they exist.

I could easily call it propaganda
Re: A Question For Thought by Nobody: 11:38am On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


Well, created in what way?

Not created manually...
To be part of a person at birth

Just like you have hands, not created manually
Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 11:44am On Jul 24, 2023
preciousee17:


Not created manually...
To be part of a person at birth

Just like you have hands, not created manually

So AI when it becomes sentient and creates other sentient AI would not have souls?
Re: A Question For Thought by LordReed(m): 11:45am On Jul 24, 2023
preciousee17:


The main reason for the question is:
No one really has tangible proof that they exist.

I could easily call it propaganda

It may be propaganda, for me it is still just speculation.
Re: A Question For Thought by Image123(m): 12:49pm On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


It may be propaganda, for me it is still just speculation.

Speculating that AI becomes sentient, sentient of what exactly? About aliens again, Irresponsible thinking this is.
Re: A Question For Thought by Image123(m): 12:55pm On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


So AI when it becomes sentient and creates other sentient AI would not have souls?


Cringeworthy thinking right here. When will AI become sentient, sentient of what? Anyways, it's not surprising since you don't rate humans. You compare yourself with monkeys and gorillas, so why not plastic robots. Same mindset your sadistic brothers like Stalin and Adolf had as unbelievers. Your one soul is more important than the whole world, not the craze.
Re: A Question For Thought by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jul 24, 2023
LordReed:


So AI when it becomes sentient and creates other sentient AI would not have souls?

Part of a person at birth
That is, the sperm and ovum of someone with a soul created you.

Even if AI manages to be sentient and attempt to claim to give birth... They didn't have a soul. So they'll give birth to soulless offsprings

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