Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Abigbo: 9:01pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Thanks for the update boss hunee: I just thought i should add this here quickly, for those of you applying fresh for SA visa, Please get a reference letter from your bank, signed and delivered to merge with your bank statement for upload. Do not upload the bank statement alone.
Please take note. You can get a reference letter from your bank, just go and request for it. It is simple.
Department, Home Affairs has been rejecting alot of visas lately because they feel the SOA are adulterated. 2 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by 080bjaked(m): 11:08pm On Jul 22, 2023 |
Abigbo: Please someone should help with this information, thanks! Single traveller or couple? That's a little less than 40k Rands so it should be good for a single traveller on 2 weeks hol if flight cost is out of it actually. Honestly, I think it depends on the official reviewing the application, some are just sadists Good luck. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Atinukemi23: 12:36am On Jul 23, 2023 |
TheLoanGuy: After I sent them an email, they resent the notification and then I was able to see it.
My application was rejected though, it was stated that I provided insufficient proof of financial funds. I'm guessing it's because I used the account statement from my PiggyVest account. I've appealed sha. I was told no appeal for E visas and re applying ? |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Abigbo: 2:41am On Jul 23, 2023 |
Single traveller 080bjaked:
Single traveller or couple? That's a little less than 40k Rands so it should be good for a single traveller on 2 weeks hol if flight cost is out of it actually.
Honestly, I think it depends on the official reviewing the application, some are just sadists
Good luck. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Karenchynee: 11:29pm On Jul 23, 2023 |
I cant continue from here /quote] |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Atinukemi23: 11:23am On Jul 24, 2023 |
hunee: I just thought i should add this here quickly, for those of you applying fresh for SA visa, Please get a reference letter from your bank, signed and delivered to merge with your bank statement for upload. Do not upload the bank statement alone.
Please take note. You can get a reference letter from your bank, just go and request for it. It is simple.
Department, Home Affairs has been rejecting alot of visas lately because they feel the SOA are adulterated. Looking like they are on mission to just punish some of us. I applied on the 12th with a certified bank statements and PDF clearer version there was no problem they rejected because of yellow certificates. Re applied following week with the same bank certified statements and recent re downloaded statements to show closing balance with enough sufficient Fund and business accounts all certified and yellow certificates. Now they rejected that the bank statements are invalid. Their e visa service is really really poor. Be like say dem go hold their visa na my money I won go spend. I am re routing to another country. Good luck Everyone. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by TheLoanGuy: 1:04pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
Atinukemi23:
Looking like they are on mission to just punish some of us.
I applied on the 12th with a certified bank statements and PDF clearer version there was no problem they rejected because of yellow certificates.
Re applied following week with the same bank certified statements and recent re downloaded statements to show closing balance with enough sufficient Fund and business accounts all certified and yellow certificates.
Now they rejected that the bank statements are invalid. Their e visa service is really really poor. Be like say dem go hold their visa na my money I won go spend. I am re routing to another country. Good luck Everyone.
Oh wow and you applied from England. I guess it's not my PiggyVest account then. I'll be considering Kenya, I just want to go on vacation. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Abigbo: 1:46pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
Wow, this is sad o..South Africans and their visa wahala no be here. Its still your money u're coming to spend o Atinukemi23:
Looking like they are on mission to just punish some of us.
I applied on the 12th with a certified bank statements and PDF clearer version there was no problem they rejected because of yellow certificates.
Re applied following week with the same bank certified statements and recent re downloaded statements to show closing balance with enough sufficient Fund and business accounts all certified and yellow certificates.
Now they rejected that the bank statements are invalid. Their e visa service is really really poor. Be like say dem go hold their visa na my money I won go spend. I am re routing to another country. Good luck Everyone.
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Atinukemi23: 1:59pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
TheLoanGuy: Oh wow and you applied from England. I guess it's not my PiggyVest account then. I'll be considering Kenya, I just want to go on vacation. Yes I am on holiday presently in England so I am applying with naija passport that’s why I am doing E visa. Kenya is lovely, been there,meself dey go Rwanda now. Make dem Hold their visa. I saw another trend here in England and people from other countries who require a visa were denied sheepishly and a lot recommend you go to embassy to do actual biometrics where you have the opportunity to submit all original documents, their e visa service is not there yet. God knows how many days it took their dha website to be responsive their e visa service is poor abeg, some were lucky tho, but because some are lucky doesn’t mean the rest of us did a wrong thing it all Depends on the Mood of your caseworker. I did E Visa for kenya last year and within 48hrs no hassle it was granted. Make southy go sit down abegii. All the best. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by TheLoanGuy: 5:05pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
Atinukemi23:
Yes I am on holiday presently in England so I am applying with naija passport that’s why I am doing E visa. Kenya is lovely, been there,meself dey go Rwanda now. Make dem Hold their visa. I saw another trend here in England and people from other countries who require a visa were denied sheepishly and a lot recommend you go to embassy to do actual biometrics where you have the opportunity to submit all original documents, their e visa service is not there yet.
God knows how many days it took their dha website to be responsive their e visa service is poor abeg, some were lucky tho, but because some are lucky doesn’t mean the rest of us did a wrong thing it all Depends on the Mood of your caseworker.
I did E Visa for kenya last year and within 48hrs no hassle it was granted. Make southy go sit down abegii. All the best. Oh thanks for the heads up because I was thinking Kenya's fee is bit high when compared to SA's own but at least I go get am. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 6:38pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
I got a report from the BMA section at OR TAMBO about Nigerians over staying in their country. One thing can lead to another. Not saying it is a reason for rejections tho, but if you get back to Nigeria, use VFS. However, if you insist on vacay in other countries, Pls see zanzibar or Casablanca. If you have a valid UK visa, just apply directly on their portal(Morocco) https://www.acces-maroc.ma/#/e-visaHappy Holidays Atinuke and others. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Atinukemi23: 8:09pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
hunee: I got a report from the BMA section at OR TAMBO about Nigerians over staying in their country. One thing can lead to another. Not saying it is a reason for rejections tho, but if you get back to Nigeria, use VFS. However, if you insist on vacay in other countries, Pls see zanzibar or Casablanca.
If you have a valid UK visa, just apply directly on their portal(Morocco)
https://www.acces-maroc.ma/#/e-visa
Happy Holidays Atinuke and others. No Lies!! The rate in which other countries are even refusing us no matter your past travel history if you like have a visa of heaven on your passport na refuse you dey. They just look for a flimsy excuse and truth be told anywhere Nigerians touch we too dey over do. Canada is the one opening their doors to us now but sooner or later we may be banned. Dubai banned us, US took us off the Visa lottery and so on. E go better that I don’t know when. 2 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Atinukemi23: 8:12pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
TheLoanGuy: Oh thanks for the heads up because I was thinking Kenya's fee is bit high when compared to SA's own but at least I go get am. majority of those African countries will be visa free for us soon, Rwanda is considering that and As it should be with our Ecowas passport. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Atinukemi23: 8:24pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
TheLoanGuy: Oh thanks for the heads up because I was thinking Kenya's fee is bit high when compared to SA's own but at least I go get am. Mauritius is a place to be too visa free, but if you will be transiting through kenya, you need kenyan transit visa, with that if you use Kenyan airways and you transit through kenya the layover is actually enough to go out and do half a day safari tour in Kenya both ways you can use one stone to kill two birds. I must warn you, the Kenyan street food are not for the faint hearted. Keep purging pills💊 handy. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by TheLoanGuy: 8:56pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
Atinukemi23:
Mauritius is a place to be too visa free, but if you will be transiting through kenya, you need kenyan transit visa, with that if you use Kenyan airways and you transit through kenya the layover is actually enough to go out and do half a day safari tour in Kenya both ways you can use one stone to kill two birds. I must warn you, the Kenyan street food are not for the faint hearted. Keep purging pills💊 handy.
😂 purging pills. Thanks for the tip. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by TheLoanGuy: 8:56pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
Atinukemi23:
majority of those African countries will be visa free for us soon, Rwanda is considering that and As it should be with our Ecowas passport.
Oh nice. I honestly can't wait. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Africankel(m): 9:55pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
Atinukemi23:
majority of those African countries will be visa free for us soon, Rwanda is considering that and As it should be with our Ecowas passport.
Rwanda is actually visa on arrival for Nigerians and it is free. I have no idea why your SA visa was refused. Maybe you should take your time to look at it again if you did something wrong. In the last two months (June/July), I've applied for a couple of visas and all were approved. SA, Botswana, Namibia, Mozambique and Kenya. While I agree that Nigerians have a tainted reputation I believe the content of your application might stand you out. I've never used the SA eVisa thingy, so I have no idea how it works. Perhaps you should try the sticker Visa, I hear it's fast these days. 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 10:54pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
My favorite kenyan meals are Ugali, Chapati and Pilau. These meals, i have carefully selected them. East Africans do not eat spicy foods the way we do, and pepper is not their thing, so it is expected, keep flagyl to avoid emergencies , unless you want to be eating smokies (Hotdog) Atinukemi23:
Mauritius is a place to be too visa free, but if you will be transiting through kenya, you need kenyan transit visa, with that if you use Kenyan airways and you transit through kenya the layover is actually enough to go out and do half a day safari tour in Kenya both ways you can use one stone to kill two birds. I must warn you, the Kenyan street food are not for the faint hearted. Keep purging pills💊 handy.
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 10:59pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
Very correct Kel, However, Have it in mind, Rwanda is visa on arrival, but hold some usd. I was in Kigali last year, and we paid 55usd for some kind of test, i think covid and one other before allowed entry. My hotel was just about 5mins to the airport, a place called Kanombe . It is a small country of about 8m people, and very strict with their laws. Clean, Accomodating people but shine your eyes when calculating your money with exchange guys. Payment systems are seamless , they have mpesa, moneygram and other pan african fintechs. I visited the Kigali Memorial, The Stadium , CBD, Made in Rwanda stores and couple of other places during my short stay. I hope you have a great time. cc: AtinukeAfricankel:
Rwanda is actually visa on arrival for Nigerians and it is free.
I have no idea why your SA visa was refused. Maybe you should take your time to look at it again if you did something wrong. In the last two months (June/July), I've applied for a couple of visas and all were approved. SA, Botswana, Namibia, Mozambique and Kenya. While I agree that Nigerians have a tainted reputation I believe the content of your application might stand you out.
I've never used the SA eVisa thingy, so I have no idea how it works. Perhaps you should try the sticker Visa, I hear it's fast these days. |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 11:16pm On Jul 24, 2023 |
I think this issue needs to be discussed on a larger scale. There are actually alot of Nigerians hanging presently in SA with expired visas and running around and away from immigration. I spoke with one of the ladies at BMA extensively about their recent hostility towards Nigerians and she opened a whole chapter for me. At some point, i didnt even know what to say. It is the same report in other places too. I think Nigerians traveling needs to be properly oriented. It is not enough to just hop on a plane, arrive in another man's country and begin to misbehave. You dont expect them to fold their hands. In as much as we want free movement of people across borders, look at the enormous setbacks. Tell me one country now in Africa, that you dont have to apply for visa for , even the ones that were visa on arrival have placed a ban(Seychelles) So, it is worrisome, but i think people like you and many other great people here can champion that course and be an ambassador for change. I tell people, wherever you go, especially outside your country, Just see yourself as an identity for a whole nation. Whatever actions you take, will come back at 200m plus people, so just keep a Good image. That is the orientation we need to start preaching, it is not just to be traveling and traveling. People need to know why they are traveling, so they behave well outside. Atinukemi23:
No Lies!! The rate in which other countries are even refusing us no matter your past travel history if you like have a visa of heaven on your passport na refuse you dey. They just look for a flimsy excuse and truth be told anywhere Nigerians touch we too dey over do. Canada is the one opening their doors to us now but sooner or later we may be banned. Dubai banned us, US took us off the Visa lottery and so on. E go better that I don’t know when. 5 Likes |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Atinukemi23: 8:48am On Jul 25, 2023 |
Africankel:
Rwanda is actually visa on arrival for Nigerians and it is free.
I have no idea why your SA visa was refused. Maybe you should take your time to look at it again if you did something wrong. In the last two months (June/July), I've applied for a couple of visas and all were approved. SA, Botswana, Namibia, Mozambique and Kenya. While I agree that Nigerians have a tainted reputation I believe the content of your application might stand you out.
I've never used the SA eVisa thingy, so I have no idea how it works. Perhaps you should try the sticker Visa, I hear it's fast these days. TBH going to the embassy is better the E-Visa thing is something else, rejected twice in 2weeks, first it was yellow card certificate says it’s invalid even though further evidence was submitted from the Ministry of health to show it is indeed valid and it was valid online before submitting it. So I re applied with the same certified bank statements from LAGOS branch o. Only to come back and tell me I have submitted invalid bank statements. Wahala wahala wahala. I have cancelled my hotel booking I have lost interest. I would have done the VFS I reserve an appointment but I had an emergency to travel out immediately so that fee was forfeited not refundable and you have to book another date giving 48hrs notice hence I opted for evisa. It is what it is. |
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Abigbo: 1:31pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
There's no need to be so bitter about this, when one door closes another will open. You don't have the monopoly of where nigerians can and cant go. Well meaning Nigerians are still doing the best they can and making waves all over the world. Lionessza6:
@ Sharone21 come and read here you . Words from an actual sane human who has the ability to self critic , and not always play the victim card even though it's pretty clear that your desperate Japa culture is causing you a lot of problems in many different countries.
@ the poster. Unfortunately your countrymen will resent you for saying the things you said up there, what you should have said to get their attention: " South African home affairs is xenophobic , they hate us because we are better than them , blah blah " . Owning up to why Nigerians are forever singled out in different countries is not something they're ready to face.
As for the free movement of people, I think that's just a fantasy(even from well-meaning people), it sounds nice on paper and when it's preached by fat politicians, but it would be a disaster for the Southern and Northen parts of the continent ( Pan africanists will hate this part ) .That can only work only when others force their own governments to prioritise the most basic; healthcare , education, human rights and other basic infrastructure like roads and access to running water etc. We pay huge taxes for these to work. These I believe are some of the things that attract migrants to South Africa and them. South Africa isn't perfect either , it has a mountain of its own problems but South Africans aren't the type who take pride in burdening outsiders or strangers for pity ; peaceful and stable countries like Botswana and Namibia can attest to that. I just wonder why so many of your people behave like hooligans in other people's countries , and wonder why the host communities treat them like garbage ? . We don't seek to live in Nigeria, and we don't want you to bring Nigeria here. If you know that you cannot adapt to a new way of living why move out of Nigeria to go and recreate Nigeria in somebody else's home? Nigerians in Hillbrow kidnap and shyt in street corners where humans should be walking ....and you expect us to clap our hands whilst you turn our communities into mini Lagoses. These are grown ass man squatting in fckn public....for what ?
All countries have hooligans but your country seems to be fond of exporting them to other societies before grooming them to be good guests or ambassadors of their own nation. If you don't change that ,your passport will keep getting more worthless and well- meaning Nigerians will keep on getting unfair treatment ( because others readily assume they're uncouth and criminally minded or coming at them with evil intentions).......and its human nature for one to try and protect their homes from perceived wickedness. Western countries like Canada and Australia made smart decisions by making their tourists visas difficult and only allowing in the best of the Nigerian society . The countries that were lenient * brotherly * like South Africa, Tanzania, Asian countries etc learnt a hard lesson (Nigerians think nice and welcoming people are weak and stupid and therefore will provoke you till you snap and treat them as they are treated back home, so that they'll have something to wail about just as they do in Nigeria)....its like you guys have this need to be hateful or hated everywhere you go......or you just can't live in a functional or non- chaotic environment. More visa bans will fall on your heads and I sincerely wish the SA government will frustrate you guys more. I feel sorry for the real intending tourists but atleast other countries like Kenya and them are still lenient to you guys so you have those options but I hear that the everyday citizens aren't so fond of you either..........
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 1:39pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Lionessza6:
@ Sharone21 come and read here you . Words from an actual sane human who has the ability to self critic , and not always play the victim card even though it's pretty clear that your desperate Japa culture is causing you a lot of problems in many different countries.
@ the poster. Unfortunately your countrymen will resent you for saying the things you said up there, what you should have said to get their attention: " South African home affairs is xenophobic , they hate us because we are better than them , blah blah " . Owning up to why Nigerians are forever singled out in different countries is not something they're ready to face.
As for the free movement of people, I think that's just a fantasy(even from well-meaning people), it sounds nice on paper and when it's preached by fat politicians, but it would be a disaster for the Southern and Northen parts of the continent ( Pan africanists will hate this part ) .That can only work only when others force their own governments to prioritise the most basic; healthcare , education, human rights and other basic infrastructure like roads and access to running water etc. We pay huge taxes for these to work. These I believe are some of the things that attract migrants to South Africa and them. South Africa isn't perfect either , it has a mountain of its own problems but South Africans aren't the type who take pride in burdening outsiders or strangers for pity ; peaceful and stable countries like Botswana and Namibia can attest to that. I just wonder why so many of your people behave like hooligans in other people's countries , and wonder why the host communities treat them like garbage ? . We don't seek to live in Nigeria, and we don't want you to bring Nigeria here. If you know that you cannot adapt to a new way of living why move out of Nigeria to go and recreate Nigeria in somebody else's home? Nigerians in Hillbrow kidnap and shyt in street corners where humans should be walking ....and you expect us to clap our hands whilst you turn our communities into mini Lagoses. These are grown ass man squatting in fckn public....for what ?
All countries have hooligans but your country seems to be fond of exporting them to other societies before grooming them to be good guests or ambassadors of their own nation. If you don't change that ,your passport will keep getting more worthless and well- meaning Nigerians will keep on getting unfair treatment ( because others readily assume they're uncouth and criminally minded or coming at them with evil intentions).......and its human nature for one to try and protect their homes from perceived wickedness. Western countries like Canada and Australia made smart decisions by making their tourists visas difficult and only allowing in the best of the Nigerian society . The countries that were lenient * brotherly * like South Africa, Tanzania, Asian countries etc learnt a hard lesson (Nigerians think nice and welcoming people are weak and stupid and therefore will provoke you till you snap and treat them as they are treated back home, so that they'll have something to wail about just as they do in Nigeria)....its like you guys have this need to be hateful or hated everywhere you go......or you just can't live in a functional or non- chaotic environment. More visa bans will fall on your heads and I sincerely wish the SA government will frustrate you guys more. I feel sorry for the real intending tourists but atleast other countries like Kenya and them are still lenient to you guys so you have those options but I hear that the everyday citizens aren't so fond of you either..........
I am actually amongst the list of those who liked this post and needless to say much, at a time like this, diplomacy of issues is not best, we should talk and speak truth about issues so we can re align our path and move forward. Nice . 1 Like |
Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Bammybestowed: 3:51pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Lionessza6:
This is a flawed writeup and I’m sure you are a South African. There are criminals everywhere in the world and your people are not any better, from extreme drug abuse to joblessness and begging on the streets😓. Let’s not act like SA is heaven on earth. Let me add that , people will also relocate and look for greener pastures, it’s just so sad that have government has rendered our country useless, that is not to see we don’t have Nigerians thriving all over the world. How many well meaning Nigerians are even given the opportunity to flourish in SA, these people can discriminate ehn. With your good degree and certifications, trust me to get a job in SA will be almost impossible that’s why you see a lot of Nigerians, albeit foreigners opening businesses but no , they will not applaud those ones but rather focus of the nonentities that has decided to spoil the image of our country by selling drugs and being a nuisance in another man’s country. I live in SA, I mind my business, I do not engage in any illegal activities but I have to be judged just because I’m a Nigerian. Should we also say you guys are lazy and druggies and the only reason why your country is this good is because of the “whites”? In essence, there are alot of responsible Nigerians, same way we have alot of irresponsible Nigerians as same applies to every country across the world!!!!
@ Sharone21 come and read here you . Words from an actual sane human who has the ability to self critic , and not always play the victim card even though it's pretty clear that your desperate Japa culture is causing you a lot of problems in many different countries.
@ the poster. Unfortunately your countrymen will resent you for saying the things you said up there, what you should have said to get their attention: " South African home affairs is xenophobic , they hate us because we are better than them , blah blah " . Owning up to why Nigerians are forever singled out in different countries is not something they're ready to face.
As for the free movement of people, I think that's just a fantasy(even from well-meaning people), it sounds nice on paper and when it's preached by fat politicians, but it would be a disaster for the Southern and Northen parts of the continent ( Pan africanists will hate this part ) .That can only work only when others force their own governments to prioritise the most basic; healthcare , education, human rights and other basic infrastructure like roads and access to running water etc. We pay huge taxes for these to work. These I believe are some of the things that attract migrants to South Africa and them. South Africa isn't perfect either , it has a mountain of its own problems but South Africans aren't the type who take pride in burdening outsiders or strangers for pity ; peaceful and stable countries like Botswana and Namibia can attest to that. I just wonder why so many of your people behave like hooligans in other people's countries , and wonder why the host communities treat them like garbage ? . We don't seek to live in Nigeria, and we don't want you to bring Nigeria here. If you know that you cannot adapt to a new way of living why move out of Nigeria to go and recreate Nigeria in somebody else's home? Nigerians in Hillbrow kidnap and shyt in street corners where humans should be walking ....and you expect us to clap our hands whilst you turn our communities into mini Lagoses. These are grown ass man squatting in fckn public....for what ?
All countries have hooligans but your country seems to be fond of exporting them to other societies before grooming them to be good guests or ambassadors of their own nation. If you don't change that ,your passport will keep getting more worthless and well- meaning Nigerians will keep on getting unfair treatment ( because others readily assume they're uncouth and criminally minded or coming at them with evil intentions).......and its human nature for one to try and protect their homes from perceived wickedness. Western countries like Canada and Australia made smart decisions by making their tourists visas difficult and only allowing in the best of the Nigerian society . The countries that were lenient * brotherly * like South Africa, Tanzania, Asian countries etc learnt a hard lesson (Nigerians think nice and welcoming people are weak and stupid and therefore will provoke you till you snap and treat them as they are treated back home, so that they'll have something to wail about just as they do in Nigeria)....its like you guys have this need to be hateful or hated everywhere you go......or you just can't live in a functional or non- chaotic environment. More visa bans will fall on your heads and I sincerely wish the SA government will frustrate you guys more. I feel sorry for the real intending tourists but atleast other countries like Kenya and them are still lenient to you guys so you have those options but I hear that the everyday citizens aren't so fond of you either..........
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by Bammybestowed: 3:53pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
This is a flawed writeup and I’m sure you are a South African. There are criminals everywhere in the world and your people are not any better, from extreme drug abuse to joblessness and begging on the streets😓. Let’s not act like SA is heaven on earth. Let me add that , people will always relocate and look for greener pastures, it’s just so sad that our government has rendered our country useless, that is not to say we don’t have Nigerians thriving all over the world. How many well meaning Nigerians are even given the opportunity to flourish in SA, these people can discriminate ehn. With your good degree and certifications, trust me to get a job in SA will be almost impossible that’s why you see a lot of Nigerians, albeit foreigners opening businesses but no , they will not applaud those ones but rather focus on the nonentities that has decided to spoil the image of our country by selling drugs and being a nuisance in another man’s country. I live in SA, I mind my business, I do not engage in any illegal activities but I have to be judged just because I’m a Nigerian. Should we also say you guys are lazy and druggies and the only reason why your country is this good is because of the “whites”? In essence, there are alot of responsible Nigerians, same way we have alot of irresponsible Nigerians as same applies to every country across the world!!!! Lionessza6:
@ Sharone21 come and read here you . Words from an actual sane human who has the ability to self critic , and not always play the victim card even though it's pretty clear that your desperate Japa culture is causing you a lot of problems in many different countries.
@ the poster. Unfortunately your countrymen will resent you for saying the things you said up there, what you should have said to get their attention: " South African home affairs is xenophobic , they hate us because we are better than them , blah blah " . Owning up to why Nigerians are forever singled out in different countries is not something they're ready to face.
As for the free movement of people, I think that's just a fantasy(even from well-meaning people), it sounds nice on paper and when it's preached by fat politicians, but it would be a disaster for the Southern and Northen parts of the continent ( Pan africanists will hate this part ) .That can only work only when others force their own governments to prioritise the most basic; healthcare , education, human rights and other basic infrastructure like roads and access to running water etc. We pay huge taxes for these to work. These I believe are some of the things that attract migrants to South Africa and them. South Africa isn't perfect either , it has a mountain of its own problems but South Africans aren't the type who take pride in burdening outsiders or strangers for pity ; peaceful and stable countries like Botswana and Namibia can attest to that. I just wonder why so many of your people behave like hooligans in other people's countries , and wonder why the host communities treat them like garbage ? . We don't seek to live in Nigeria, and we don't want you to bring Nigeria here. If you know that you cannot adapt to a new way of living why move out of Nigeria to go and recreate Nigeria in somebody else's home? Nigerians in Hillbrow kidnap and shyt in street corners where humans should be walking ....and you expect us to clap our hands whilst you turn our communities into mini Lagoses. These are grown ass man squatting in fckn public....for what ?
All countries have hooligans but your country seems to be fond of exporting them to other societies before grooming them to be good guests or ambassadors of their own nation. If you don't change that ,your passport will keep getting more worthless and well- meaning Nigerians will keep on getting unfair treatment ( because others readily assume they're uncouth and criminally minded or coming at them with evil intentions).......and its human nature for one to try and protect their homes from perceived wickedness. Western countries like Canada and Australia made smart decisions by making their tourists visas difficult and only allowing in the best of the Nigerian society . The countries that were lenient * brotherly * like South Africa, Tanzania, Asian countries etc learnt a hard lesson (Nigerians think nice and welcoming people are weak and stupid and therefore will provoke you till you snap and treat them as they are treated back home, so that they'll have something to wail about just as they do in Nigeria)....its like you guys have this need to be hateful or hated everywhere you go......or you just can't live in a functional or non- chaotic environment. More visa bans will fall on your heads and I sincerely wish the SA government will frustrate you guys more. I feel sorry for the real intending tourists but atleast other countries like Kenya and them are still lenient to you guys so you have those options but I hear that the everyday citizens aren't so fond of you either..........
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 5:42pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
A very interesting topic and it nice to hear views from across corners. Please let maintain a very decent criticism and avoid using vulgar words. We are here to educative ourselves.
Now, let us ask ourselves, and for those who are abreast with events. Just last week, some group of Nigerians were videoed on the street of instanbul in a scene supposed to be a fracas amongst two warring rivary groups. The aftermath of that event led to the arrest and harrasment of many Nigerians in Turkey. About few weeks ago, a ban was placed on Nigerians in Seychelles. I can go on. Please let us ask ourselves one question. Do you think we targeted by other nationalities? OR it is just a case of reprisal based on our perceived dented image? These are questions we should ponder on as a People.
I do not want to start listing the number of countries i have visited in Africa, because is of no use to the conversation, but i am a well traveled person, and i have been to a number of countries in Africa. Unless, we want to be deceiving ourselves and playing ludo with the truth, Nigerians are not seen in good light in many places.
True, we are well accomplished , well read, quite smart, very illustrous, but i will like to borrow Atinuke word "We too dey overdo"
This topic is not even one of many, we have issues bordering on illegal immigration, drug cartels, and cultism downplaying the efforts of Honest People and we dont even want to be talking about tribes, because Nigerians are the target, not Yoruba , Ibo or Hausa. It is that green passport they are after.
Promoting a need to re orient and educate people is very important. The way and manner we talk in Public Places too, we want to create a scene that we have arrived? Alot of education is needed.
Even if you have all the degrees on the planet, and you have traveled to the whole world, if you dont know how to comport or behave in public places, it is an issue.
I repeat, I repeat again, Alot of education is needed as people are traveling. I remember in those days when we were younger, before we left for school, our parent would sit us down a night before , and give us all necessary life advise, it is now left for you.
The same still happens in Higher Institutions, soon as matriculation is completed, Student are made to attend Orientation days, so they can be guided. These are the areas i feel we are lacking as a society, and we need to begin to re direct our steps.
Lastly, We are all here to educate , inform and enlighten ourselves, be open to constructive criticism , and let us be mindful of our use of words.
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 8:50pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
The long and short of the entire discuss is that Solder go Soldier Come, Every of us will carry the name of country on our head It's on us to build our nations to be reputable amongst committee of nations.
Whether Nigerians, South Africans or Kenyans. Whatever part of this world you represent, Promote your country in good light and save the career of many of us honest people.
People literally have to change their base when applying for jobs or attending interviews these days, like there's this stereotype.
Once employers see you are from a perceived place, they send you an automated declined notice.
Job opportunities don't come easily to skilled persons. I was speaking with a graphic designer in Nigeria last week and he explained to me how he had to change his location on upwork to US because all the people that contacted him said they can't give him the job because of his location.
You got to be a bit more strategic these days. You don't get it, until when you see and encounter these events.
So, let's walk the talk, and start the repair from here!!!
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Re: General South Africa Visa Enquiries by hunee: 9:08pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Lionessza6:
This is nice and objective. Hopefully they will no get all emotional and attack you for pointing out the obvious. Let me add something as well. One of the reasons people generally assume most Nigerians are just evil is that , when a Nigerian gets killed by a South African or police , you see all these Nigerian groups twerking for human rights activists. But when a Nigerian is caught with missing underage girls chained and drugged in his flat , you don't see these so called * good* Nigerians. So people readily think the Nigerian community is an evil community with evil intentions for the country. They will never condemn Nigerian evil doings in the country but are quick to appear and milk a situation when a Nigerian gets a bullet in his skull. Now tell me, would you welcome such * good* hypocritical people without suspicion in your community? I am quite objective which makes me different. I recently posted something similar on the UK thread where people accuse travel agent always forging documents without their notice. Then, after carefully reviewing the comments, I made a case for agent and gave a simple comparison. It is not possible for a surgeon to carry out an operation on a patient without a consent. For every forgery or falsification, even when applicants deny not to know, in actual sense, there were part of it. Because you don't give a travel agent requisite document to apply for a visa, you just pay him, where do you expect he or she gets document from? They will obviously "package your application na"Those that have been following my trajectory on this platform since I joined,know that I am very objective with issues. If anyone gets angry about my views, it's on them. We can polish and pretend everything is fine in Nigeria, but remember the Nidcom boss at a time got really angry and exploded about the re occuring drug peddling cases orchestrated by Nigerians in Malaysia that she had to lambast some persons on Twitter. Calling a spade a spade is admittance for growth(Just like confessing your sins and seeking forgiveness for salvation of the soul) and not denial. We sometimes dont have to be diplomatic about issues. This will help us to properly see things clearly so we can move forward better as a peopleFor a fact, the greatest problems of the Nigerian Elite is that alot of them do not tell themselves the truth , even as things are difficult in Nigeria, there are still people that will tell you APC remains the best Government.
Make we dey talk truth as e be , so we can move forward. Thanks . 1 Like 1 Share |