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Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 1:21pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
vdestro:Repetition helps a dullard to better understand. 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by vdestro: 1:29pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman: Even dullards know not to accept unfounded shits and their repetitions just prove that they were shits the first time. 2 Likes |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 1:30pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
vdestro:The books you base your life on are unfounded shits too na đ |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by vdestro: 1:39pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
Maynman: More proof! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() When its my turn to stand for the test of my foundations, i will answer but till then, you remain the world most stupid person ever. ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by NNTR: 5:35pm On Jul 28, 2023 |
NNTR: NNTR: Sand2022: Myer:Templates (i.e. prototypes) are used for repeatability and efficiency purposes Adam and Eve were the preliminary version of human beings from which other human beings will develop from. Adam and Eve were the first, original and typical form of created human beings that subsequent human beings were modelled from. Just as once a kink, mark, flaw, blemish enters a template (i.e. mould), then from that, weakness through the blemish will enter, and this weakness will be spread to all subsequent mouldings made with the now defect mould Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by bukatyne(f): 2:35am On Jul 29, 2023 |
Myer: @Topic: Who did God blame? |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Techobeys: 5:42am On Jul 29, 2023 |
I suppose this is a troll account. It was hilarious to read btw. EnemyofGod2: |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by vdestro: 10:49am On Jul 29, 2023 |
EnemyofGod2: Your father knew that you are going to cross the road yet he let you go outside and you have never blamed him when okada knocked you down. "Failures and Losers blame everything in sight" |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by vdestro: 10:50am On Jul 29, 2023 |
bukatyne: The souls He punished shows you. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by NNTR: 5:07am On Jul 30, 2023 |
bukatyne:Everyone loves a witch hunt as long as it's someone else's witch being hunted. Some human beings have no qualms blaming God, for all the suffering in the world and you would feel like as if they are praising Adam, Eve and Satan for allowing all the wisdom and good that happens, along with the accompanied hooked in throat fishbone evil. God is not in any blaming game business. He gives just desserts (i.e. gives reward for what has been done - whether good or bad) Adam blamed Eve. Eve blamed the serpent. The serpent blamed no one, because didnt have any legs to stand on, after Eve fingered it out with a pointing finger vdestro:Ezekiel 18:20 The soul who sins is the one who will die ... Romans 2:6 God âwill repay each person according to what they have done.â (i.e. He WILL PAY BACK TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS [justly, as his deeds deserve] Job 34:11 God will repay humanity for what it has done and will give each person what he deserves. (i.e. God always treats everyone the way they deserve For according to a manâs deeds He repays him; according to a manâs ways He brings consequences.) Ezekiel 18:4 Behold (pay close attention), all souls are Mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine. The soul, who sins, will die. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by vdestro: 5:31am On Jul 30, 2023 |
NNTR: And that is The Truth! |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by NNTR: 5:39am On Jul 30, 2023 |
vdestro:John 18:38 Pilate said to Him [scornfully], âWhat is truth?â And when he had said this, he went out to the Jews again and told them, âI find no guilt in Him [no crime, no cause for an accusation]. John 11:25 Yeshua said to her, âI AM THE LIVING GOD, The Resurrection and The Life; whoever trusts in Me, even if he dies, he shall live.â John 14:6 Jesus said to him, âI am the [only] Way [to God] and the [real] Truth and the [real] Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Sand2022: 8:31am On Jul 30, 2023 |
Myer: Adam and Eve had freewill. They could have chosen to follow what God said and remain alive. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Myer(m): 11:16pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
bukatyne: No, Who do you blame. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 11:17pm On Jul 30, 2023 |
Sand2022:If they had freewill, why canât they use it? |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Sand2022: 6:41am On Jul 31, 2023 |
Maynman: They did. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 8:49am On Jul 31, 2023 |
Sand2022:Whatâs the of the free will if they will be punished for using it? |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Sand2022: 11:52am On Jul 31, 2023 |
Maynman: If you have a work license and uses your office for something illegal, will you be punished? |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 11:55am On Jul 31, 2023 |
Sand2022:If anything is illegal, how are you exercising free will? Free will is when you tell a kid to pick whatever chocolate flavors she likes without consequence of punishment or reward. When you attach a reward or punishment to it, the kid is not choosing freely, the kid is only reacting to the consequences. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Sand2022: 12:23pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Maynman: But what if the kid goes on to defecate on the chocolate? Or goes on to pick an orange meant for someone else? Or what if the kid picks the chocolate and inserts it into his anus or poke his eyes with the stick? Will he suffer for it? Freewill is just right to do whatever you want. That's all. What you do might have consequences, either good or bad. Whichever one you chose, no one force you to do it, you did it of your own volition. That's freewill. 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 12:24pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Sand2022:Please read Free will is when you tell a kid to pick whatever chocolate flavors she likes without consequence of punishment or reward. When you attach a reward or punishment to it, the kid is not choosing freely, the kid is only reacting to the consequences. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 12:25pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Sand2022:You canât say someone have freewill and you are still the same person punishing them for using that freewill. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Sand2022: 1:13pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Maynman: No, you get punished if you misuse your freedom. And your misusing it was done freely without being coerced. There are 99% things you could do within your freewill without any punishment, why do the 1% you were restricted from? It means that you FREELY decided to fall into a ditch. God didn't issue absolute freedom. That would in fact be disastrous and unloving. It means that one might decide to kill another or burn another's building cos he feels it's the right thing. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 1:16pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Sand2022:Who decides how you use your own freewill? If you get punished for âmisusingâ your freewill, you never had freewill. Exactly your god didnât give you freewill. He gave you laws that limits your freewill. We see how israelites were killing other tribes, even taking their lands. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Sand2022: 1:42pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Maynman: So if Mr A shoots B, he should go free with it right? Just so that he can have freewill. 1 Like |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 1:43pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Sand2022:Who told mr A and B they have freewill? Even in Nigeria constitution you donât have freewill, thatâs why there are laws and if you break it you will be punished. Nigeria constitution has set up CERTAIN citizen rights. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Tyktoker: 2:28pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
You don't want pressure?, but you cooked your question under pressure before posting? Maka y? Myer: |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by sportivation(m): 2:53pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Sand2022: 2:56pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Maynman: You have freewill brother. It appears you don't undythe meaning of free will. Let's see what Webster's Dictionary says: 1. voluntary choice or decision. Eg I do this of my own free will 2: freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention. These are the definition of free will. If you can make a choice without being coded to decide that way, you have free will. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 2:59pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Sand2022:Read your number 2 especially. Choices that are not determined by prior causes. If you are doing something because of the consequences you are not doing it from freewill, you are only reacting to the consequences. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Sand2022: 3:22pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Maynman: Hmmm you de wonderful o. This discussion will really take a century to end if you don't understand common definition. When did prior cause turn to consequences? My brother what that definition is saying is that one's decisions is not based on pre-determination. Eg, you set your alarm to ring by 8pm. If it rings at that time, it did so because of your earlier or prior setup. It didn't ring by its own prompting. In other words, the definition is saying that if you're not pre-destined, you have free will. |
Re: The Fall Of Man - Who Is To Blame? by Maynman: 3:26pm On Aug 10, 2023 |
Sand2022:If a thief says your life or your money, whatever option you pick, is it voluntarily? Is it of your own freewill? Or your choices are determined by the consequences? 1 Like |
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