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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by FxMasterz: 11:31am On Aug 01, 2023 |
Maynman:Yeah, very deep. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Image123(m): 11:32am On Aug 01, 2023 |
Maynman: Okay, now you are saved? |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 11:32am On Aug 01, 2023 |
Image123:Ifa priests with their pebbles ![]()
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Image123(m): 11:33am On Aug 01, 2023 |
Maynman: If it makes you feel saved dear. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 11:33am On Aug 01, 2023 |
Image123:I was never in bondage like you.
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 11:34am On Aug 01, 2023 |
Image123:Yahweh worshipper, i Was never in bondage like you, waiting for a jewish man to save you. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 11:35am On Aug 01, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Yes oo, gobbling up jewish books with zero knowledge
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by FxMasterz: 11:46am On Aug 01, 2023 |
Maynman: I'm spiritually and academically knowledgeable with practical spiritual experience. You're the one who gobbles on books written by other men whose sources you cannot verify because you cannot practically experience what they're saying. I'm far ahead of you because I have practical experience relating to the books I read. So, my knowledge is practically verified. You're very ignorant and you'll get to know this sooner or later. I'm 100% certain that the day your eyes would open, you'll wish you listened to me. For now, keep arguing ignorantly and keep screenshooting useless articles. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 11:50am On Aug 01, 2023 |
FxMasterz:If you have done any research on your israelite god you won’t be worshiping yahweh. BTW, “spirit” means breathe, keep deluding yourself, saying words you don’t understand 😂😂 “Spiritual experience” 🤣
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by FxMasterz: 11:54am On Aug 01, 2023 |
Maynman: The Spiritual research I've undertaken gives me an edge. Keep doing your physical research that scratches only the surface. I'll keep enjoying my spiritual experience. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 11:56am On Aug 01, 2023 |
FxMasterz:Ignorance is the devil ![]()
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Kobojunkie: 12:54pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:I see that you are desperate to make an issue of Rock-Paper-scissors where there is none, aren't you? ![]() A better approach would be to point out where God explicitly said casting of lots is sin. All this here is meaningless attempt at throwing stones at Jesus Christ who never said it is against God to cast lots. ![]() Telling me that casting lots every day to decide if it will be oats or rice pudding in the morning is of ifa na brain damage abeg! If I choose rice today, does that mean oats was just unlucky, you tell me. ![]() |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 12:59pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Do you cast lot with 12 pebbles? 1 Like
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MindHacker9009(m): 1:09pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Okay so Jonah was just unlucky like your oats that was why the lot fell on Jonah while on the ship. Is thinking like that not brain damage. 1 Like |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Kobojunkie: 1:25pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:I really don't follow... Jonah was trying to run away from God. The men who cast lots were not even mentioned to have been of Hebrew descent nor is it indicated that they served God of Israel. The story instead says they resorted to playing Rock-Paper-scissors in order to decide which of them was responsible for the storm they were having to deal with. And the lot fell on Jonah who at that time was already racked with guilt. Jonah is said to have confessed to being guilty too. So how luck take enter when Jonah was a servant of the most high meaning his destiny was ruled over by God Himself? ![]() Again, your best bet hear is instead showing that playing Rock-Paper-scissors is decreed sin by God, not all these desperate attempts at casting it down when God is said to have even suggested it be used by the High Priest in the Land? Jesus Christ never told His followers that it is sin to cast lost or to vote, so, not sure why you are desperate to make an issue where there is none. ![]() |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 1:29pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:The verse mentioned CLEROMANCY. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleromancy#:~:text=In%20the%20Book%20of%20Jonah,the%20lot%20fell%20on%20Jonah.%22
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 1:31pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:In different part of the tanakh, Yahweh commanded them to cast lots.
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MindHacker9009(m): 1:48pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: How does your response above relate to the below: Okay so Jonah was just unlucky like your oats that was why the lot fell on Jonah while on the ship. Is thinking like that not brain damage. Kobojunkie: 1 Like |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Kobojunkie: 1:52pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:It seems you are so desperate to have this play out according to your own script there....again.... Kobojunkie:My rice & oats situation may be left to time and chance --or mood--- which happens to everyone but the decision whether a servant of the most high lives or dies dependent on luck?. ![]() |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MightySparrow: 1:55pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: You are Boss. Read the Bible with unbiased mind. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 2:01pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:
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Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MightySparrow: 2:04pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
LordReed: The apostles chose Mattias, Jesus chose Saul of Tarsus. Ever since no more casting of lots but 'thus saith the Holy Spirit ' Your problem is not reading the Bible to understand the teachings but to criticize. All you will ever see is confusion. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by LordReed(m): 2:13pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MightySparrow: The OP quoted the book of Jonah and my question is was that outcome also driven by the holy spirit according to you? 1 Like |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Kobojunkie: 2:15pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:That is akin to saying gambling involves divination implying all gambling addicts are high level ifa Priests or something. ![]() Casting of lots, Gambling, Rock-Paper-scissors, taking a vote, etc., are not crimes nor are they sins against God. If divination aspect to what some do is what you are attempting to make issue of here then for that the Old Law states that it is sin to commit idolatry, and Jesus Christ made clear to His followers that they cannot worship two masters in His Kingdom. ![]() |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MightySparrow: 2:16pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
LordReed: I concur Sir! |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MindHacker9009(m): 2:17pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MightySparrow: If they had not cast lots which involves pagan divination to select Mattias then they would have selected another Judas which would have led to real confussion for them. 1 Like |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MightySparrow: 2:19pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Well..... |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Steep(m): 2:59pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:Casting lots is one of the ways humans use to determine outcomes, it could religious or non religious. In the ancient times the outcome of lots was attributed to the gods however the outcome could be determined by the true God or evil spirit. Casting lots is not pagan but was adopted by pagans instead. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by Maynman: 3:22pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
Steep:Stop saying what you don’t know. |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by LordReed(m): 3:27pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MightySparrow: So the holy spirit drives pagan practices? |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:55pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
MightySparrow: This is the truth but do you really agree with what you just typed or you only typed it just to cover up for what you don't understand? Well after they were baptized with Holy Spirit Jesus' apostles began growing in understanding gradually {Proverbs 4:18} because they're imperfect humans unlike Jesus whose understanding was perfect right after the baptism of Holy Spirit. So going by the highlighted if anyone now ask you: Is casting of lots to decide issues a Christian practice today? What will be your response? YES or NO ![]() |
Re: Casting Of Lots By The Apostles In The New Testament Is Pagan Practice Like Ifa by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:12pm On Aug 01, 2023 |
Casting of lots is old tradition in the east back then so all the nations there practiced it but since the true God has sent His Holy Spirit to guide His own worshipers after Pentecost 33 c.e Satan and his demons continued with the old traditions and using it to enrich many so that they can continue with such practices. Literal burning of animals for sacrifice. Using images during worship. Burning of incense and use of rosaries. Preaching loudly in the streets. Loud prayers disturbing neighbours. And so on are all demonic practices today! Compulsion of circumcision. Monetary tithing. But do Christians in the first century knew all of these instantly after they were baptized with Holy Spirit? NO! They only followed Christ's example until the new light comes through careful reading, diligent study, thorough meditation and fervent prayers in Jesus name to God for guidance! So today if anyone is still practicing any of these things let him know that he or she is into IDOLATRY not CHRISTIANITY! ![]() |
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