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God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 4:45pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
New International Version Genesis 11:1-9 11 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there. 3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.” 5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.” 8 So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. 9 That is why it was called Babel—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth. *** Yet God has no problem with aeroplanes, jets, rockets, satellites, the international space station, and so one. In other words, God is perfectly okay with space exploration. Yet God was 'intimidated' watching the people build the tower of Babel, a city which would reach heaven. *** I gotta ask, where exactly is God? Residing in the sky? In space? Beyond? *** I need answers. 1 Like |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Nobody: 4:54pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
No one is answering? I reserve my comments for later, it will spark so much unbelief. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by BOSSkesh(m): 5:05pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Hmmm |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Shokoloko(f): 5:05pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
preciousee17:It was not a punishment. God never said the idea was bad. It was not just the right time Apparently, the passage shows that God wanted them scattered all over the face of the earth. God wanted exploration of the earth first. They did not want that - they wanted to stay in Shinar (no movement). That is not how to replenish the earth which was the blueprint given to Adam. 2 Likes |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by BOSSkesh(m): 5:05pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
A lot to unpack and learn here |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Maynman: 5:11pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
preciousee17:What does genesis 10:5 mean? 1 Like |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by MightySparrow: 5:14pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Space exploration is not a problem to God. He was angry because the then people were working against God's agenda of spreading to cover the earth. Now, there are no places on earth that are not belongings to a people on the world map. In fact we are working towards colonizing Moon and Mars. If it is against his idea, He will still prevent one way or the other. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:15pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Shokoloko: Which Bible did you read? Genesis 11:6-7 What makes you think God was pro-exploration? Next time, read. If God wanted to create different languages, he could have easily done so without hindering their progress. Besides:
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Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:21pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
MightySparrow:Again, you're ignoring Genesis 11:6-7 Glad you mentioned the moon and mars. Isn't it curious they were never mentioned in the old testament bible by the illiterate peasants who wrote it? I wonder if God would be happy with us colonizing other planets. After all, the instruction was to populate and govern earth. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Emusan(m): 5:23pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll: You're the one who quoted this scripture yet failed to see @underlined part. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Emusan(m): 5:28pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll: You're the very one who didn't read. God was not against them for the building but idea of staying in one location. If God wanted to create different languages, he could have easily done so without hindering their progress. Who are you to tell God how to do His business? |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Nobody: 5:28pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Shokoloko: Yh, this also makes sense in a way |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Shokoloko(f): 5:30pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll:Could you clarify what sentence or phrase led you to qualify God's action as punishment? I'm curious |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:31pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Emusan:Again, if you read the passage, you would see that it wasn't their decision to settle that was the problem, but their pride, they choose to build a city to reach heaven, and that troubled God. Again:
If he was offended by their disobedience, he could easily have punished them (he's done that many times)... He didn't have to utter the aforementioned statement. That's telling. Almost at though he were scared of their capabilities. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:33pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Shokoloko:I made that point? These were my questions:
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Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Emusan(m): 5:36pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll: It's the decision to settle that was the problem. Read to understand next time. Again: Genesis 11:6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. The above is a simple English. If he was offended by their disobedience, he could easily have punished them (he's done that many times)... He didn't have to utter the aforementioned statement. That's telling. Almost at though he were scared of their capabilities. He is not offended but just following His own plan. You can't tell Him what to say and not what to say besides, the language above is easy to comprehend without injecting your own interpretation. 1 Like |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:37pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Emusan: Black Africans and defending a borrowed God who's anti-civilization While the world advances without any opposition from your unusually silent God, you're here excusing why he hindered the progress of the early men for some stupid reason (his insecurity). |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:39pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Emusan:Mind you, they were one people before they decided to settle. What's your point? Lmao. What he said was easy to understand. "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them". Again, he didn't complain about their disobedience, but their capabilities. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Shokoloko(f): 5:39pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll:The bible states that God has an office beyond space. But he no longer works from his office, he works from home. His home is our hearts. Heaven is where the throne is but ‘The kingdom of God is within,’ |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Emusan(m): 5:41pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll: Now you're derailing your own thread. He is Anti civilisation yet many of people who believe in Him brought the same civilisation to you. While the world advances without any opposition from your unusually silent God, you're here excusing why he hindered the progress of the early men for some stupid reason (his insecurity). At least you recognise His Presence on early men. So why do you think He silent now? |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Emusan(m): 5:43pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll: So you know that and yet failed to understand the angle God was speaking from So what is the essence of this thread then? Lmao. What he said was easy to understand. Yes! "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them". Check very well. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:46pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Emusan:Belief in him isn't proof of him. Everything you see, God neither revealed nor taught. We are here thanks to the hardwork and dedication of millions of people of different faiths: christians, muslim, heathens and atheists. His presence? He literally crippled an early civilization. And for what? |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Shokoloko(f): 5:47pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Emusan:Very correct. It is even obvious that the people understood the blueprint/ plan and they did not want it. Their comments prove that they knew they were supposed to move around "....lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.” 1 Like |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:48pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Shokoloko:Bible verse? Because everything points at the fact that the sky is heaven, where God resides. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Emusan(m): 5:50pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll: You're changing your own thread, stay in one place and stop preambulating. Everything you see, God neither revealed nor taught. We are here thanks to the hardwork and dedication of millions of people of different faiths: christians, muslim, heathens and atheists. But the fact is the people who believed in Him brought CIVILISATION to you. His presence? He literally crippled an early civilization. And for what? You agree someone CRIPPLED early civilisation but you still stated above that "Belief in him isn't proof of him" o ma se oooo |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Shokoloko(f): 5:55pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll: But will indeed God dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain You (1 Kings 8:27). 1st heaven Gen 1:1 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. 2nd heaven Gen 1:7-8 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. 3rd heaven Deut 10:14 Behold, the heaven [2nd heaven] and the heaven of heavens [3rd heaven] is the LORD’S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is [included the 1st heaven]. 1 Ki 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven [2nd heaven] and heaven of heavens [3rd heaven] cannot contain thee… [also 2 Chr 2:6, 2 Chr 6:18] Neh 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven [2nd heaven], the heaven of heavens [3rd Heaven], with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein [including the 1st heaven], the seas, and all that is therein… Psa 113:4 The LORD is high above all nations, and his glory above the heavens [His glory is above ALL heavens]. Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens (plural), Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things. [cf. Ps 113:4, above] |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 5:57pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Emusan: You're embarrassing me... you're not making any sense. Like I said, belief in God isn't proof of him. And many people regardless of their religion made active contributions. It's not a Christian thing and it wasn't the result of their faith but their human effort. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by Cybertroll: 6:01pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Shokoloko:Exactly. The sky equals heaven. But there's no mention of outer space; systems, galaxies, etc. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by vdestro: 6:53pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Cybertroll: Fool! Did all these not happen after He Said it is finished" and thereafter He has not Spoken again? Only fools never learn that silence follows a storm |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by vdestro: 6:57pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
Shokoloko: Exactly! It was not exactly a punishment. Maybe a punishment of dissapointment and futility but we know that when God punishes, it must be hot and very painful, so i agree with you that this was not a punishment. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by vdestro: 7:04pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
MightySparrow: They were rebelling and disobeying Him. Man just loves death. |
Re: God Tolerates Space Exploration Yet Punished The Builders Of The Tower Of Babel by MightySparrow: 7:07pm On Aug 02, 2023 |
vdestro: Yes, but they didn't want to spread all over the earth. In the last days knowledge shall increase. All is in the agenda of God |
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