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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by LordReed(m): 4:45pm On Aug 09, 2023
triplechoice:


No ,you are getting this wrong .

I said ,I expected you to understand the agnostic position better since the subset ,agnostic atheist is not far from it .

Ok

What is agnostic atheist ?

You once said you are leaning towards that and you cant do so without some understanding of it .

And if you understand it ,why joining others in the mockery instead of explaining it they way you understand it . You may know it better than the rest of us

I literally responded to you with what an agnostic atheist is, why asking the same question again?

Tell me how I do not understand the agnostic position or how I am mocking it. Quote what I said that indicates any of the things you are saying.

Dude I said I am an agnostic atheist, I also said I am moving towards ignosticism. I literally said it in this thread and you can't even quote me right? SMH.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by triplechoice(m): 5:23pm On Aug 09, 2023
LordReed:


I literally responded to you with what an agnostic atheist is, why asking the same question again?.


I'm not sure about this .You were evading my questions .

Please show me again where you responded.. I have not seen it. . Maybe you modified your comments to do so . We all do that sometimes so I may have missed it because of that . But I will check .


Tell me how I do not understand the agnostic position or how I am mocking it. Quote what I said that indicates any of the things you are saying.


You below .


LordReed:


LoLz. As in, seriously. They are just dancing around in some semantic gymnastics. Imagine someone saying "I don't believe" is not the same as "I neither believe nor disbelieve". I am just LMFAO.


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Dude I said I am an agnostic atheist, I also said I am moving towards ignosticism. I literally said it in this thread and you can't even quote me right? SMH.

You didn't quote me to say the above so I didn't see it . Is not everything I have read . Of course I would have seen it later but for now no. It's only in the other thread I saw you discuss it with workch, and once or twice in the past you said the same.

Even at that can you explain what you were trying to do with what I reproduce for you above. It's you .
I don't think you would be doing that for any reason since you are leaning towards the same thing .
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by triplechoice(m): 5:29pm On Aug 09, 2023
Ok Reed .

I have seen it .
I skipped it because I thought it was crazy maynman replying me with is usual copy and paste
But explain the mockery
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by LordReed(m): 5:32pm On Aug 09, 2023
triplechoice:



I'm not sure about this .You were evading my questions .

Please show me again where you responded.. I have not seen it. . Maybe you modified your comments to do so . We all do that sometimes so I may have missed it because of that . But I will check .



You below .





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You didn't quote me to say the above so I didn't see it . Is not everything I have read . Of course I would have seen it later but for now no. It's only in the other thread I saw you discuss it with workch, and once or twice in the past you said the same.

Even at that can you explain what you were trying to do with what I reproduce for you above. It's you .
I don't think you would be doing that for any reason since you are leaning towards the same thing .


Check your mentions or go back through the thread you'll see it.

You literally responded to the comment in which I said I was moving towards ignosticism. So you didn't read it before you responded?

I was responding to a particular person not the OP. If you want to get the sense of what I was responding to read that post but basically I was responding to this: "Yet another person wearing a label he cannot differentiate from other labels." Has nothing to do with misunderstanding the agnostic position or mocking it.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by triplechoice(m): 5:36pm On Aug 09, 2023
LordReed:


Check your mentions or go back through the thread you'll see it.

You literally responded to the comment in which I said I was moving towards ignosticism. So you didn't read it before you responded?

I was responding to a particular person not the OP. If you want to get the sense of what I was responding to read that post but basically I was responding to this: "Yet another person wearing a label he cannot differentiate from other labels." Has nothing to do with misunderstanding the agnostic position or mocking it.

I just explain why I skipped it . I thought it was the other person trying to inundate me with is usual nonsense .

Honestly , If I had seen that, I wouldn't continue to question you about it again . It wouldn't make any sense to do so .
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 7:05pm On Aug 09, 2023
triplechoice:
Ok Reed .

I have seen it .
I skipped it because I thought it was crazy maynman replying me with is usual copy and paste
But explain the mockery
See this dullard son of a slave that’s agnostic to “god” yet you don’t know what “god” means.

Lordreed caught you, you knew exactly the comment you saw.
Barren thing that calls himself Triplechoice, illiterate doesn’t know that “buddism” is an atheistic religion.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 10:20am On Aug 10, 2023
Negroid001:

That's why it's called Agnosticism. I learn everyday. My head is like a sponge. My views are open to corrections. I'm not rigid like an Atheist or Religious fanatic.
The fact you used a negative word shows your core belief was questioned. The principles i believe in work for me.
I don't give a damn about your beliefs. I even encouraged yours that it inspired me to share my views.

the highlighted phrases are opposites.
Youre simply confused
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 10:22am On Aug 10, 2023
Negroid001:

Me i no dey argue.
I believe in a higher authority.
Higher intelligence.

You not agreeing is none of my business.
Therein lies our answer.
Youre not a theist sympathizer. You just don't believe in other gods but yours.
Therefore, Youre a full blown theist.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Negroid001(m): 11:04am On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

the highlighted phrases are opposites.
Youre simply confused

Okay. Mr know all.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 11:25am On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Therein lies our answer.
Youre not a theist sympathizer. You just don't believe in other gods but yours.
Therefore, Youre a full blown theist.

Same goes for these “agnostics”.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 12:32pm On Aug 10, 2023
Negroid001:


Okay. Mr know all.
...neither did I in any way say I know everything. Looks like your label of your brain being a sponge is false after all. You never did ask any questions about the different opinions posted here. You just assume we are all wrong.
An open mind questions everything. If I see any irrefutable evidence of the existence of a god or ghdfksl;s, I would dump atheism. But til date I haven't, so I'm still stuck in my atheistic rut cheesy

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 12:35pm On Aug 10, 2023
KnownUnknown:


Same goes for these “agnostics”.
Nah. Those dudes are theists or deists. Its a spectrum. The OP lies on the theist side of that spectrum while Workch, Wilgrea, Triplechoice,A001 are spread out with Wilgrea tilting towards the most athestic extreme.
Agnostism is a joke of a word

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Workch: 1:03pm On Aug 10, 2023
I see atheists are here already causing problems.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 1:04pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
I see atheists are here already causing problems.
And here comes the believer that is agnostic about a “Creator” called “god” but not agnostic about a Creator call “dragon” 😂

Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 1:06pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
I see atheists are here already causing problems.
Youre welcome to the mayhem, honcho

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 1:08pm On Aug 10, 2023
Maynman:

And here comes the believer that is agnostic about a “Creator” called “god” but not agnostic about a Creator call “dragon” 😂
I was deeply hurt. seriously butt hurt that some beings doubt the existence of my Dragon embarassed

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 1:09pm On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

I was deeply hurt. seriously butt hurt that some beings doubt the existence of my Dragon embarassed
Just Try call it “deistic god”, workch Will believe it. grin grin
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Workch: 1:10pm On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Nah. Those dudes are theists or deists. Its a spectrum. The OP lies on the theist side of that spectrum while Workch, Wilgrea, Triplechoice,A001 are spread out with Wilgrea tilting towards the most athestic extreme.
Agnostism is a joke of a word
How is agnosticism a joke?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 1:10pm On Aug 10, 2023
Maynman:

Just Try call it “deistic god”, workch Will believe it. grin grin
Noted. Next time I'll rephrase cheesy

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 1:11pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
How is agnosticism a joke?
Why are you not agnostic to a dragon why “god”?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 1:11pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
How is agnosticism a joke?
Lets start with the OP.
Do you think he's agnostic?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by triplechoice(m): 1:20pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
How is agnosticism a joke?
Don't bother to ask him

He doesn't know what it means.

Even the atheist label he has given himself ,he cannot explain it clearly without running to Wikipedia like his friends .
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 1:22pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:

Don't bother to ask him

He doesn't know what it means.

Even the atheist label he has given himself ,he cannot explain it clearly without running to Wikipedia like his friends .
It is better to go on Wikipedia than assuming jargons from my ass and saying “buddism” believes in “god” but not external 😂😂

An agnostic that does not know what “god” means, you are sha Agnostic
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Workch: 1:25pm On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Lets start with the OP.
Do you think he's agnostic?
I think the OP is more of an agnostic theist also called agnostitheism because he believes in the eixstence of a Supreme being but insist that it's unknown.

Agnostic theism, agnostotheism, or agnostitheism is the philosophical view that encompasses both theism and agnosticism. An agnostic theist believes in the existence of one or more gods, but regards the basis of this proposition as unknown.

I figured that from this statement:
"There is indeed an intelligent supreme being. Y'all should stop claiming you have an idea what it is. Humans have even attributed a gender to the x factor we know nothing about."


If he had gone further to say that this intelligent Supreme being does not interfere in anything in the universe, then he would be a deist. So I don't think the OP is an agnostic.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by triplechoice(m): 1:30pm On Aug 10, 2023
Maynman:

It is better to go on Wikipedia than assuming jargons from my ass and saying “buddism” believes in “god” but not external 😂😂

An agnostic that does not know what “god” means, you are sha Agnostic

Are you about to have another relaspe?

Bring where I said buddist believe in a god, or go take your medications quicky .
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 1:33pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:


Are you about to have another relaspe?

Bring where I said buddist believe in a god, or go take your medications quicky .
I am not like your father, go and ask him.

What’s the business of “buddism” with a creator or god?
Where did they believe any being was responsible for the world?

Don’t go empty oo.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Workch: 1:35pm On Aug 10, 2023
Negroid001:

That's why it's called Agnosticism. I learn everyday. My head is like a sponge. My views are open to corrections. I'm not rigid like an Atheist or Religious fanatic.
The fact you used a negative word shows your core belief was questioned. The principles i believe in work for me.
I don't give a damn about your beliefs. I even encouraged yours that it inspired me to share my views.

I'm glad that you are ready to take corrections but sincerely I do not think that you are a pure agnostic.

Agnosticism is based on knowledge and not on beliefs. Agnostics do not believe or disbelieve a god unless that God is validated or invalidated with evidence. Agnosticism is purely empirical and not rational.

The fact that you believe that a Supreme being exist but nothing is known about it automatically means that you are not a pure agnostic. You are an agnostic theist.
A pure agnostic does not have beliefs or disbeliefs in his or her dictionary, he or she waits for evidence and accepts what evidence says.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 2:01pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
I think the OP is more of an agnostic theist also called agnostitheism because he believes in the eixstence of a Supreme being but insist that it's unknown.

Agnostic theism, agnostotheism, or agnostitheism is the philosophical view that encompasses both theism and agnosticism. An agnostic theist believes in the existence of one or more gods, but regards the basis of this proposition as unknown.

I figured that from this statement:
"There is indeed an intelligent supreme being. Y'all should stop claiming you have an idea what it is. Humans have even attributed a gender to the x factor we know nothing about."


If he had gone further to say that this intelligent Supreme being does not interfere in anything in the universe, then he would be a deist. So I don't think the OP is an agnostic.

Lmao. Do you have evidence against him being an agnostic deist?
Agnostideism or Agnostodeism grin

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Negroid001(m): 2:05pm On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

...neither did I in any way say I know everything. Looks like your label of your brain being a sponge is false after all. You never did ask any questions about the different opinions posted here. You just assume we are all wrong.
An open mind questions everything. If I see any irrefutable evidence of the existence of a god or ghdfksl;s, I would dump atheism. But til date I haven't, so I'm still stuck in my atheistic rut cheesy

I don't assume anyone is wrong. We all have different opinions and beliefs for various reasons. I personally like your maturity and direct way of inquiring information. Well as a motion graphics artist, 3d modeling of products and prototypes is what i come across so often. Everything in existence is so complex that i strongly believe life didn't come by chance or the big bang bula bla. Look around you, everthing around you including your embodiment is a clear work of design.

What this entity that put life in motion is unknown to no one. People claim they know it and even labeled it God, cuts across all cultures lol.
At the same time, there's so much imperfection around us to know that this entity doesn't give a Bleep about us. Are we to say it's just nature? Nature is cruel, natural process doesn't give a Bleep. That is the natural order of things. Humans have deluded themselves overtime that this creation entity is a loving figure and should be well regarded. When bad occurences occur, they say it is punishment for not being regarded. This was used to indoctrinate fear into early mankind.

The truth should be told. Nature always takes it course. Your beliefs do no matter, physics do.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Negroid001(m): 2:09pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
I think the OP is more of an agnostic theist also called agnostitheism because he believes in the eixstence of a Supreme being but insist that it's unknown.

Agnostic theism, agnostotheism, or agnostitheism is the philosophical view that encompasses both theism and agnosticism. An agnostic theist believes in the existence of one or more gods, but regards the basis of this proposition as unknown.

I figured that from this statement:
"There is indeed an intelligent supreme being. Y'all should stop claiming you have an idea what it is. Humans have even attributed a gender to the x factor we know nothing about."


If he had gone further to say that this intelligent Supreme being does not interfere in anything in the universe, then he would be a deist. So I don't think the OP is an agnostic.

Are you on clubhouse?
I want want to have a discussion where everyone gives their opinion on creation without being judged of fear of backlash.

Only thing that would bring backlash is saying things without pure evidence. No hypothesis.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 2:09pm On Aug 10, 2023
Negroid001:


Everything in existence is so complex that i strongly believe life didn't come by chance or the big bang bula bla. Look around you, everthing around you including your embodiment is a clear work of design.

Is the designer(s) complex?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Negroid001(m): 2:12pm On Aug 10, 2023
KnownUnknown:


Is the designer(s) complex?
Please rephrase your question

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