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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 2:17pm On Aug 10, 2023
Negroid001:

Please rephrase your question

You said “Everything in existence is so complex that i strongly believe life didn't come by chance or the big bang bula bla. Look around you, everthing around you including your embodiment is a clear work of design”

Work of design indicates that there is a “designer” or “designers”.
Is the designer complex?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Negroid001(m): 2:22pm On Aug 10, 2023
KnownUnknown:


You said Everything in [b]existence is so complex [/b]that i strongly believe life didn't come by chance or the big bang bula bla. Look around you, everthing around you including your embodiment is a clear work of design.

Work of design indicates that there is a “designer” or “designers”.
Is the designer complex?

I dgaf who the designer or designers are.
No evidence man. But let the truth be told, everything has a process. Life didn't just pop up from no where. Things are too complex.
Nairaland platform didn't just write and code itself into existence. It's obvious it's a work of careful planning, codes and algorithms, user interface and whatever makes up a forum website.

If i might ask, how did life come into existence?
What's your belief?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Negroid001(m): 2:23pm On Aug 10, 2023
KnownUnknown:


You said Everything in [b]existence is so complex [/b]that i strongly believe life didn't come by chance or the big bang bula bla. Look around you, everthing around you including your embodiment is a clear work of design.

Work of design indicates that there is a “designer” or “designers”.
Is the designer complex?

I dgaf who the designer or designers are.
No evidence man. But let the truth be told, everything has a process. Life didn't just pop up from no where. Things are too complex.
Nairaland platform didn't just write and code itself into existence. It's obvious it's a work of careful planning, codes and algorithms, user interface and whatever makes up a forum website.

If i might ask, how did life come into existence?
What's your belief?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by triplechoice(m): 2:34pm On Aug 10, 2023
Maynman:

I am not like your father, go and ask him.

What’s the business of “buddism” with a creator or god?
Where did they believe any being was responsible for the world?

Don’t go empty oo.

Bring evidence of what you claim I said , or shut up and go take your medications
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 2:35pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:


Bring evidence of what you claim I said , or shut up and go take your medications
You are suffering from dementia like your father. No wonder you have many “medical friends” treating both of you.

What’s the business of “buddism” with a creator or god?
Where did they believe any being was responsible for the world?

Don’t go empty oo.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by triplechoice(m): 2:40pm On Aug 10, 2023
Lol

I'm sure theists, who might be following this thread and the other one secretly , are happy the "devil has set confusion in the camp of the enemy ,

All their enemies are now camped here to fight one another leaving them alone .

I pray it continues.

Amen

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 2:40pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:


Bring evidence of what you claim I said
Any topic call “god” even your father no reach.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 2:42pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:
Lol

I'm sure theists, who might be following this thread and the other one secretly , are happy the "devil has set confusion in the camp of the enemy ,

All their enemies are now camped here to fight one another leaving them alone .

I pray it continues.

Amen
Illiterate “devil” is only found in Abrahamaic religions, some theists don’t have the concept of “devil” in their MYTHOLOGY, and the funny thing is divine(god) and devil(deava) mean same time, same side of the same coin.

I am not your mate, I didn’t become an atheist because i am without knowledge.

I Will school you and your father!

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 2:52pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:

Don't bother to ask him

He doesn't know what it means.

Even the atheist label he has given himself ,he cannot explain it clearly without running to Wikipedia like his friends .
You still have a pending question from me. What was I pretending to be? Till you answer that you're a fraud and a biatch

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 2:55pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
I think the OP is more of an agnostic theist also called agnostitheism because he believes in the eixstence of a Supreme being but insist that it's unknown.

Agnostic theism, agnostotheism, or agnostitheism is the philosophical view that encompasses both theism and agnosticism. An agnostic theist believes in the existence of one or more gods, but regards the basis of this proposition as unknown.

I figured that from this statement:
"There is indeed an intelligent supreme being. Y'all should stop claiming you have an idea what it is. Humans have even attributed a gender to the x factor we know nothing about."


If he had gone further to say that this intelligent Supreme being does not interfere in anything in the universe, then he would be a deist. So I don't think the OP is an agnostic.
Youre muddying the water here.
So from your statement, an agnostic theist isn't an agnostic?

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by triplechoice(m): 3:01pm On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

You still have a pending question from me. What was I pretending to be? Till you answer that you're a fraud and a biatch

I owe you nothing .

You can continue to whine like a puppy .

Next time don't bite more than what you can chew . You will choke on it .
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Workch: 3:04pm On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Youre muddying the water here.
So from your statement, an agnostic theist isn't an agnostic?
He's an agnostic theist. It means that he's a combination of agnosticism and Theism.
It's not difficult to understand.

I'm am different from him because I don't know and I don't even believe anything or disbelieve it. I'm a pure agnostic
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 3:04pm On Aug 10, 2023
triplechoice:


I owe you nothing .

But we owe you “evidence against” 😂

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 3:11pm On Aug 10, 2023
Negroid001:

I dgaf who the designer or designers are.

That’s not a reasonable answer to the question “is the designer complex”?

Negroid001:

No evidence man.

Made up things don’t have evidence.

Negroid001:

But let the truth be told, everything has a process. Life didn't just pop up from no where.

No it didn’t. It’s one of the myriad processes that occur on earth.

Negroid001:

Things are too complex.

Too complex compared to what?

Negroid001:

Nairaland platform didn't just write and code itself into existence. It's obvious it's a work of careful planning, codes and algorithms, user interface and whatever makes up a forum website.

Of course not. People write codes.

Negroid001:

If i might ask, how did life come into existence?
What's your belief?

I think life is due to, and began because of, the interaction, between the earth, the sun, and the moon.
To speculate, life as we know it may be pretty simple compared to other forms of existence. I can easily fathom an alien race with a “ brain”of four layers who would make us look like chimpanzees in comparison. Regardless, life is one of the processes that happen that need no external explanation that “transcends the universe”. The universe evolves and constantly reconfigures what is or itself (including us). If there is purpose behind it, that purpose is beyond human comprehension. At the same time, the concept of purpose may just be a human idea.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by A001: 3:27pm On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Nah. Those dudes are theists or deists. Its a spectrum. The OP lies on the theist side of that spectrum while Workch, Wilgrea, Triplechoice,A001 are spread out with Wilgrea tilting towards the most athestic extreme.
Agnostism is a joke of a word
The issue of whether God exists or not is settled for me. So, I don't see the point in all these debates on Nairaland.

For now and in the foreseeable future, agnosticism is the most reasonable path as far as I'm concerned whether it tilts toward theism, deism or atheism.

Pure atheism is an ignorant position, just like theism. Both are the same sides of the same coin.

But deism is still reasonable.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Workch: 3:29pm On Aug 10, 2023
A001:

The issue of whether God exists or not is settled for me. So, I don't see the point in all these debates on Nairaland.

For now and in the foreseeable future, agnosticism is the most reasonable path as far as I'm concerned whether it tilts toward theism, deism or atheism.

Pure atheism is an ignorant position, just like theism. Both are the same sides of the same coin.

But deism is still reasonable.
Pure atheism is the most unreasonable. It's the ultimate sciolism.

Sciolism is worse than ignorance
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 3:29pm On Aug 10, 2023
A001:

For now and in the foreseeable future, agnosticism is the most reasonable path as far as I'm concerned whether it tilts toward theism, deism or atheism.

Pure atheism is an ignorant position, just like theism. Both are the same sides of the same coin.

But deism is still reasonable.
Agnosticism is also a belief.
Atheism is non belief, whatever the forseeable future holds i will wait, while waiting i am not believing any gods.

Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 3:33pm On Aug 10, 2023
A001:



Pure atheism is an ignorant position, just like theism. Both are the same sides of the same coin.

But deism is still reasonable.

Pure atheism is an ignorant position, just like theism, and agnosticism. The former are the different sides of the same coin while agnosticism is the rim of the coin. However, all are unable to realize the coin is illusory.

Deism, pantheism, monotheism, duotheism polytheism, etc are on the same side of the coin as theism. Just layers that you pull away until you reach monotheism.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by A001: 3:37pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
Pure atheism is the most unreasonable. It's the ultimate sciolism.

Sciolism is worse than ignorance
Well said.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by A001: 3:37pm On Aug 10, 2023
Make una build house for Nairaland and be discussing all sorts of "isms". Mere waste of time
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 3:38pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
Pure atheism is the most unreasonable. It's the ultimate sciolism.

Sciolism is worse than ignorance

Is impure atheism more unreasonable compared to pure theism?

How do you rate pure theism compared to impure agnosticism?

Is impure deism more potent than pure agnosticism?

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 3:38pm On Aug 10, 2023
A001:
Make una build house for Nairaland and be discussing all sorts of "isms". Mere waste of time
While at it ….

Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Workch: 3:39pm On Aug 10, 2023
KnownUnknown:


Is impure atheism more unreasonable compared to pure theism?

How do you rate pure theism compared to impure agnosticism?
I have taken enough stupid questions today.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 3:42pm On Aug 10, 2023
Workch:
I have taken enough stupid questions today.


Lol, stupid questions for stupid ideas.

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by A001: 3:52pm On Aug 10, 2023
Some morons keep mentioning me unnecessarily. I no get work like you now, so I'll be sleeping and waking on Nairaland just to engage in silly arguments.

The highly intelligent ones that really have something upstairs hardly post on Nairaland. It's those with empty brains going from one thread to the other to post nonsense all day.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 3:54pm On Aug 10, 2023
A001:
Some morons keep mentioning me unnecessarily. I no get work like you now, so I'll be sleeping and waking on Nairaland just to engage in silly arguments.

The highly intelligent ones that really have something upstairs hardly post on Nairaland. It's those with empty brains going from one thread to the other to post nonsense all day.
Keep believing a “creator” that is unknownable 😂

Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 3:56pm On Aug 10, 2023
A001:
Some morons keep mentioning me unnecessarily. I no get work like you now, so I'll be sleeping and waking on Nairaland just to engage in silly arguments.

The highly intelligent ones that really have something upstairs hardly post on Nairaland. It's those with empty brains going from one thread to the other to post nonsense all day.

It never fails! You always have time to write a version of this post. You don’t have time but you always have time to let the world know you don’t have time. Lol

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Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by jaephoenix(m): 3:57pm On Aug 10, 2023
Negroid001:


I don't assume anyone is wrong. We all have different opinions and beliefs for various reasons. I personally like your maturity and direct way of inquiring information. Well as a motion graphics artist, 3d modeling of products and prototypes is what i come across so often. Everything in existence is so complex that i strongly believe life didn't come by chance or the big bang bula bla. Look around you, everthing around you including your embodiment is a clear work of design.

What this entity that put life in motion is unknown to no one. People claim they know it and even labeled it God, cuts across all cultures lol.
At the same time, there's so much imperfection around us to know that this entity doesn't give a Bleep about us. Are we to say it's just nature? Nature is cruel, natural process doesn't give a Bleep. That is the natural order of things. Humans have deluded themselves overtime that this creation entity is a loving figure and should be well regarded. When bad occurences occur, they say it is punishment for not being regarded. This was used to indoctrinate fear into early mankind.

The truth should be told. Nature always takes it course. Your beliefs do no matter, physics do.
I don't pretend to have any answers to creation. I look out for evidence, and only evidence. Reason why I remain atheist because I have not seen any evidence of any udfkdgfg, oerwn or god. Now that you talked about this being that put in motion all these things in the world, who do you think created this awesome, powerful jgsdd?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by Maynman: 3:57pm On Aug 10, 2023
KnownUnknown:


It never fails! You always have time to write a version of this post. You don’t have time but you always have time to to let the world know you don’t have time. Lol
Apt, i wonder who hin dey shalaye to.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by A001: 3:58pm On Aug 10, 2023
Unnecessary mentions binned. Keep wasting wasting away your youth in my mentions.
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 4:00pm On Aug 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

I don't pretend to have any answers to creation.

Why call it “creation”?
Re: My Agnosticism Journey* by KnownUnknown: 4:01pm On Aug 10, 2023
A001:
Unnecessary mentions binned. Keep wasting wasting away your youth in my mentions.

Lol, time is running out.

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