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Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by LordReed(m): 2:02pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ: LoLz! Explain how carrying a weight without machines is "engineering wisdom". |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by LordReed(m): 2:07pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: The Great Ant sacrificed her only begotten drone to save all of antkind. Only the Holy Ant Spirit can make you understand. 2 Likes |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Wilgrea7(m): 2:09pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: And as I told you before, this "god is the destination" statement is pretty useless and unrelated to what I'm talking about. |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Maynman: 2:09pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
LordReed:Lwkmd 😂😂 2 Likes |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Dtruthspeaker: 2:22pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Wilgrea7: Then if you say this then you have no right to be enquiring about God and uncaused first causes and other connected purposes, saying ."...But this says nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing about a god. God is not an answer to the question of complexity..." So, see, you are still out of line either way. |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 2:35pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
LordReed:Let me oblige you. 1. The ants found a dead wall gecko the size of each ant relative to the wall gecko is at least 1:1000 2. The Ants had their destination as INSIDE the flowerpot 3. Lifting the Gecko up the wall of the flower pot was a tall order which required a lot of coordination, cooperation, dedication and strength. 4. Unfortunately, the pot had a rim that curved out and down through which they need to navigate UPSIDE-DOWN with the heavy load (which would have been an impossibility) 5. They figured out somehow under the rim to carry ONLY the lighter tail first under the flower pot rim to the top. 6. When those assigned to the task succeeded, the other Ants let go of the main body of the Gecko 7. The moment of truth came as the main gecko body swung Freely by its tail 8. The ants below the rim climbed up the rim to assist their fellow ants holding the tail to pull up the gecko carcass For creatures who cannot speak to organise each other, who have a short life span and did not therefore go to school. This is a masterpiece of wisdom in operation. Just imagine that the ants are human being and without tools required to do exactly the same thing: you will by no means applaud these ants and the One who designed and programmed them so! |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 2:37pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
LordReed:It doesn't dawn on you that their fertility rate is impossibly large that even that which you despise has kept them alive till today. |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by LordReed(m): 2:43pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ: LoLz. So even though engineering is about building machines or constructs it's still engineering not to use machines or contruct any thing. Sometimes the way you stretch language just to create a narrative is just too amusing. 1 Like |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 2:43pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
KnownUnknown:That's exactly how you think bro: that nature made everything that is natural! LOL! Forget theology now and just focus on this Ants. How did they acquire such a wisdom that many humans will fail in achieving. How did the Ants execute carrying a humongously mightyly big carcass upsidedown over the lip of the flower pot. Could their be a better way of doing this task? |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 2:45pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
budaatum:Are you saying that evolution gave the Ant the knowledge of Engineering and wisdom of operation. Their lifespan is in weeks at best. They can't talk How did evolution give them knowledge? |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by LordReed(m): 2:47pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ: How is their fertility rate "impossibly" large when it is happening day in day out? What is it that I despise that has kept them alive? |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 2:48pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:They don't even grapes the complexity of the engineering feat these Ants just performed. If humans can fail this exam, I am amazed that ordinary Ants can succeed in it. Unfortunately for the brute mule, they are willing to say everything as long as it doesn't give glory to God the Chief Designer and Maker. |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Wilgrea7(m): 2:49pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
So many wrong statements in here.. I'll do my best to point them out TenQ: Wrong... Common sense does not denote truth. For the people seeing the sun rise in the east and set in the west, common sense would tell them that the sun revolved around the earth. We know this is not the case. And again, you are not answering the question of complexity. You're just pushing it to the location of wherever the "extraterrestrial" thing is. Why? Again... Wrong. Intelligence is not the opposite of chaos. Order is. Do we see order from entropy? sometimes. The entropy of the universe has been increasing from the beginning of time. Yet stars and galaxies formed. Even planets can sometimes form from the death of stars Its the more reason why we attribute ALL the seven wonders of the world not to natural selection but to Intelligent humans building them EVEN when for many, we still can't fathom how the "primitive humans" acquired the technology for such. No one is trying to argue that complex structures necessarily come into existence from nothing, or from mere randomness. And it is perfectly possible for a complex something to come from another complex something. But you will not be answering the question of complexity either ways. The second part of the discuss is this: 1. Consciousness is still largely a mystery to us. Both its origins as well as it's nature. 2. The question of where the computers came from would be determined by several things. And if we're going by the dell and hp analogy, how sure are you that the computers would reach the conclusions that they "evolved from the natural elements of mars"?... Especially if the components of their structure were clearly absent in the planet You seem to be tossing around a lot of what ifs. Even if the computers had mars-like materials, the question of how they came to be is something they'd need to answer with some sort of evidence.. not hypothetical speculations. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Dtruthspeaker: 2:51pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
![]() TenQ: Rejected children and cast offs can never praise The One Who threw them out and cuts them off from things. |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 2:54pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
LordReed:Have they gone out of extinction? Are they on danger list? Were they meant to dominate the earth? If the answer os No!, how is it your problem is a programmer wrote a computer code that self destructs after it has perfomed it's primary function. Are you aware that in computer programming, we write some programs that self destructs after it has executed it's task? Is this stupidity or wisdom in programming ? |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Dtruthspeaker: 2:57pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Wilgrea7: What's east? Whats west? Something you were brainwashed to say. Therefore what do we see, the sun coming up from one side of the world and dissapearing down another side of the world. That is Truth. |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by KnownUnknown: 2:59pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ: The Almighty Ant communicates with them from the 5th dimension using the antennas on their heads. There is no better way than the mysterious way of Ant. 2 Likes |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Workch: 3:00pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ:How did you know all these? 1 Like |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Wilgrea7(m): 3:00pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: I have no desure to debate geography with you.. if using words like "brainwashed" will make you feel better, then go for it. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 3:01pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
LordReed:It didn't dawn on you that the Ants simply are using the carcass as their only machine! ? #They accounted for the center of gravity of the carcass. #They turned the carcass into a lever. #At a point they made the carcass into a compound pendulum. #They computed the impulse and how many Ants would be required to hold the carcass when it swings You see why I shake my head at you? |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 3:02pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Workch:I went to school to learn it. You don't know that in computer programming, we write some programs that self destructs after it has executed it's task? Is this stupidity or wisdom in programming ? |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by budaatum: 3:03pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ: Evolution does not give anything. Species learn to adapt to their ever changing environment and evolve, or they die. I would suggest you learn about evolution. You might detect the evolution from Yahweh God to Jesus God to Paul's God even. It's a fascinating lesson to understand, and would make you appreciate Christ and Christianity even more. The below is a clear example of ideological evolution.
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Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Workch: 3:03pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ:So you learnt in school that ants were programmed by a programmer?.. What's the name of your school? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by Dtruthspeaker: 3:05pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Wilgrea7: Sorry. I just wanted you people to have a shot. of your daggers. But i am not arguing about geography and what people say, i am just pointing out that Truth is indisputably what everyone sees and can see/experience. And there is no valid argument against Truth |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by LordReed(m): 3:12pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ: You didn't answer either question. What makes their fertility rate impossible and what is it that I despise that has been keeping the ants alive? 1 Like |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by LordReed(m): 3:15pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
TenQ: So if I use my fingers to dig the ground it is also engineering wisdom? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 3:25pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Wilgrea7:You should first have answered my question as Intelligently as you could. 1. If you find a computer-like object on Mars, would you attribute it's existence to self evolution from Mars or extraterrestrial to Mars? 2. Do we sometimes see order in entropy, Yes! Why? Entropy is not yet maximum. Therefore every order will in future vanish: this is the law of entropy simplified. Is it possible for entropy to decrease by itself? NO! 3. I asked you a question about common sense not a question about truth. The Truth imply that you are certain of the origin of the computer-like object on Mars. If the name Hp or Dell was written on the computer-like device you can say with a fair amount of certainty that it was manufactured on planet earth by Hewlett Packard or Dell. Again, you found some computer-like devices on Mars, what would your common sense tell you about it's origin? 4. I agree that Consciousness is still largely a mystery to us BUT as Christians will attribute it to Extraterrestrial Source, you atheists attribute it to a self evolving property of matter. 5. If the Hp and Dell computer-like devices on Mars conclude that they self evolved over billions of years in Mars: do you think their response is a rational conclusion? |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 3:28pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
KnownUnknown:At least you are coming closer: they have an influence that is extraterrestrial to them. LOL! |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 3:31pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:It is actually rebellion : anything else BUT God is good enough for them just like their master satan |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 3:34pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
budaatum: Please how has this got to do with evolution? 1. The ants found a dead wall gecko the size of each ant relative to the wall gecko is at least 1:1000 2. The Ants had their destination as INSIDE the flowerpot 3. Lifting the Gecko up the wall of the flower pot was a tall order which required a lot of coordination, cooperation, dedication and strength. 4. Unfortunately, the pot had a rim that curved out and down through which they need to navigate UPSIDE-DOWN with the heavy load (which would have been an impossibility) 5. They figured out somehow under the rim to carry ONLY the lighter tail first under the flower pot rim to the top. 6. When those assigned to the task succeeded, the other Ants let go of the main body of the Gecko 7. The moment of truth came as the main gecko body swung Freely by its tail 8. The ants below the rim climbed up the rim to assist their fellow ants holding the tail to pull up the gecko carcass For creatures who cannot speak to organise each other, who have a short life span and did not therefore go to school. This is a masterpiece of wisdom in operation. |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 3:38pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
Workch:Ants dummy! We were talking computer programming Are you aware that in computer programming, we write some programs that self destructs after it has executed it's task? Is this stupidity or wisdom in programming ? |
Re: Many Adult Educated Atheists will find this simple task Impossible! by TenQ: 3:39pm On Aug 13, 2023 |
LordReed:Show me the engineering principles you have used. QED! |
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