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Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by tunjijones(m): 5:41am On Aug 15, 2023 |
kettykin: They were in house arrest. Na jail them dey put coup plotters? Coup plotter are executed for national unity but because most of them were his brothers , he decided not to execute them. Well he paid dearly with his life and the lives of over 3 million of his people. Till today, that war has damaged his people mentally. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by gidgiddy: 5:57am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Napata77: The problem is that everything you wrote above are lies written by someone who either does not know Nigerian history, or is trying to be decietful Ironsi arrested all the coup plotters within days of putting down the coup. He even convened a tribunal headed Lt Colonel Nwawo to try them. However, the fact that the coup was initially popular, the unsettled times, as well as politics all meant that the tribunal never managed to do its job until Ironsi was killed 6 months later Nigeria was not practising confederation at the time, Ironsi did not abolish the 4 Regions that existed and he never tampered with resource control. It was Gowon who came after Ironsi and used Decree 14 to abolish all 4 Regions and created 12 new states to replacethem, then followed it up with decree 15 which abolished resource control and placed all resources in the hands of the federal government So do your research well before opening threads like this to talk about history you dont know 3 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by Melonsmasher: 6:01am On Aug 15, 2023 |
If Ironsi had allowed the coup plotters have their way Nigeria would have been far better than it is today. Nzeogwu and his men planned on something great for the country, an ideology well mapped out that Ironsi didn't know of.. Ironsi was a tribalist, he messed up everything and made it look like it was an igbo coup, and all the rulers after Ironsi till date are all ignorant and daft in government.. They all took advantage of the situations without a blueprint of Nzeogwu's ideology. One person amongst the coup plotters I didn't like was Ifeajuna, he tipped Ironsi who was one of the marked men on what was going to happen and he had to hide in a boat that night and planned on moves to hijack the coup, Ifeajuna knowing what was going to happen abandoned his miscalculated mission and fled to Ghana, which was why Adewale Ademoyaga had a fist fight with him in prison after his return back to Nigeria as his friend the then Ghanaian president Kwame Nkrumah was overthrown. To me, Ironsi as a tribalist only made use of the opportunity and option he was given just as the rest of the military rulers after him. Ifeajuna was the real enemy. He failed Nzeogwu and tarnished everything that his fellow plotters had in place for a better Nigeria. Most of you on NL laying out sentiments and bashing hot on each other unnecessarily based on your regional differences fueled with hatred are completely out of touch with historical facts. I recommend the book "Why we struck" by Adewale Ademoyaga (one of the coup plotters of the first republic) 1 Like
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Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by Thomasankara(m): 7:08am On Aug 15, 2023 |
[/color]correction! Nigeria was operating true federalism then,he was the one that changed the system to unitary[color=#770077] Napata77: 2 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by Thomasankara(m): 7:13am On Aug 15, 2023 |
[/color]Gowon didn't even understand governance,it was the kaduna Mafias that later advised him that the he should not abolish the Unitary system,since they have gotten the power,the system will be best used to their advantage. So it was Aguiyi that exposed the kaduna Mafias to greed[color=#770077] BeninRefugees: 3 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by Thomasankara(m): 7:14am On Aug 15, 2023 |
[/color]it wasn't federalism, it was unitary[color=#770077] Napata77: |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by DabuIIIT: 7:28am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Napata77 how right is Beninrefugees,you are too full and full of hate and frustrations and bitterness: 2 Likes
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Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by saintneo(m): 7:29am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Napata77:No 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by franchasofficia: 8:04am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Napata77:The way you Yoruba demons lie against Igbos, devil will be shocked Aguiyi Ironsi did not abolish regional government. Under Ironsi, we still had regional governments who were governed by Regional Military Governors. Col. Fajuyi was Southwest Region's Military Governor. Col. Ojukwu was Eastern Nigeria (Southeast and today's Southsouth) Region's Military Governor. It was Gowon that came on board and abolished regional governments and created the first 12 states in Nigeria and started appointing State Military Governors. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_in_Nigeria#:~:text=The%20Creation%20of%20States,-Newly%20created%20States&text=General%20Yakubu%20Gowon%20created%20twelve,breach%20of%20the%20Aburi%20Accord. Yorubas make una stop to de lie against Igbos foolishly, e get repercussion oh, see what is happening to you people in Kwara State, na natural reward for your evils, make una try learn and be fair and just in your dealings to avoid more deadly rewards in future 2 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by eusteskevin(m): 8:06am On Aug 15, 2023 |
After reading some comments, I got to understand the effects of history not been taught in our school. Ironsi did not move Nigeria from confederation to federation. Your parents did tell you the truth 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by eusteskevin(m): 8:09am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Their parents didn't tell the truth franchasofficia: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by BeninRefugees: 9:45am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Napata77:see cry It's really painful when someone speak truth to you clowns 🤡🤡 Aguyi ironsi made the most patriotic move anyone could make to first of all keep the country together by centralising it Yet you ungrateful and unpatriotic lots are still blaming him! If you people didn't like it why didn't they change it? You're telling me someone taught them evil Lmao in his decrees there were alot of changes they made why didn't they remove the unitary system decree? So trying to keep the country one is now a bad thing abi ? Coming from people that faught to keep the country one Why did you fight Igbos if you wanted the country to divide so badly then ? If Igbos are patriotic you lots will wail If they try secession you will wail And try all means to keep the country one The annoying part is that it was Gowon that abolished the states by creating 12 states then it wasn't aguyi ironsi!! We are here to burst all the bed time lies you've been fed all your life Tribe of liars envious, hateful and slanderous people wicked soulless clowns🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 who have been ruling 50+. Years plus but keep blaming Igbos that left power 50 years ago Soon you'll blame Igbos for not having erection 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by KimFlorence: 9:51am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Napata77: He was...now his kinsmen are. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by ElSudani: 9:51am On Aug 15, 2023 |
BeninRefugees: The coup failed, the civilian Deputy prime Minister was not killed why did he have to seize power? Why didn't he simply hand over to the Deputy prime Minister and then back him up with the military? Why did he choose not to prosecute the people who just wiped out the civilian leadership based on unproven allegations? His actions led to his own death and the civil war. 5 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by BeninRefugees: 10:13am On Aug 15, 2023 |
ElSudani: Wtf! Are you people this unlettered or what !? Do you know who aguyi ironsi was ? He's actually the first full general of the Nigerian army he's the highest ranking officer then it was something that was inevitable for him then Power had to be given to him Tho he haven't been in the country he was busy fighting along with British soldiers in the Congo war He never had idea of how much problem the country is. Till tomorrow Igbos celebrate nzeogwu and others than. Aguyi he didn't listen to his own people we told him to excecute the coup plotters he wanted everything to be done following due process and martial law. Alexander madiebo in his book stated aguyi as a typical head strong man who is extremely patriotic and paid no attention to his own people's advise . Even Adewale Ademoyega in his book reinstated that too. There was a coup actually which the riots of the west is one of the reasons that's story for another day . Have you ever seen a coup tribunal completed in 4 months? Were the plotters roaming round free? Weren't they in jail?! Aguyi did what he was supposed to do as a patriot 1. Unify the country 2. Meet the aggrieved ones and try make peace with them thus the reason for his tours Thanks to western ibadan news papers then with thier propaganda it was referred to as being in support of the failed coup His final move was to execute all the coup plotters after the military trial is completed . Where have you seen a coup tribunal completed in 4 months? I can't wrap my mind around why you lots hate Igbos If they try to keep the country one wahala! If they try to secede wahala! Thunder go fire all Una 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by ElSudani: 10:24am On Aug 15, 2023 |
BeninRefugees: He did what he had to do by seizing power even when the civilian administration had not collapsed? Greed and allure of power killed him. He was going to court martial the people he didn't even arrest after six months in power? Weave another verbose tale my friend. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by BeninRefugees: 10:36am On Aug 15, 2023 |
ElSudani: Lol civilian administration had not collapsed? Lmao The prime minister , the premier of the north and others are dead Are you even hearing yourself? If na you fear go let you near Government house ? Not to forget there was a huge wave of coup at that time all over Africa. Ironsi being the highest ranking officer that time had to leave his duty in the Congo war and return to make peace in his country . Every single thing ironsi did were just what a gentleman would do. He was following due process. He wasn't anything close to being street smart! Till tomorrow Igbos don't like him that much because he didn't listen to his people Same country he wanted to unite dey blame am today Chai! Nna eh Western lies and propaganda has been one of the instruments of destruction of Nigeria . People that even said Igbos said Lagos is no man's land when infact it was jakande that said it o If Igbos are patriotic problem If they try to secede problem Children of the falling liar |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by BeninRefugees: 10:41am On Aug 15, 2023 |
ElSudani: Lol civilian administration had not collapsed? Lmao The prime minister , the premier of the north and others are dead Are you even hearing yourself? If na you fear go let you near Government house ? Not to forget there was a huge wave of coup at that time all over Africa. Ironsi being the highest ranking officer that time had to leave his duty in the Congo war and return to make peace in his country . Every single thing ironsi did were just what a gentleman would do. He was following due process. He wasn't anything close to being street smart! Till tomorrow Igbos don't like him that much because he didn't listen to his people Same country he wanted to unite dey blame am today Chai! Nna eh The fact that he wasn't killed in the north during his tours despite them being the most aggrieved people at that time but was killed in the west Tells alot how much hate has been resonating from there ! Western lies and propaganda has been one of the instruments of destruction of Nigeria . People that even said Igbos said Lagos is no man's land when infact it was jakande that said it o If Igbos are patriotic problem If they try to secede problem Children of the falling liar |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by ElSudani: 10:46am On Aug 15, 2023 |
BeninRefugees: He was an opportunist who paid dearly for his greed. A similar situation came up during the Dimka coup when Murtala and some military leaders were killed. The man who foiled the coup was Babangida, he was not tempted to go to the nearby Radio Nigeria and announce himself as the new head of state. He called Obasanjo who was Murtala's second in command to take over. Ironsi usurped power from the civilians and subsequently ruined Nigeria within a spate of six months. No wonder his name is never mentioned in anything. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by BeninRefugees: 10:53am On Aug 15, 2023 |
ElSudani: Yes blame him for keeping Nigeria one 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 He would have divided Nigeria then you'd be happy 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 Tribe full of liars , slanderous hateful people! We sha no send Una Papa I'm very glad Adewale Ademoyega wrote alot of things to vindicate Aguyi ironsi Ungrateful and unlettered lots! 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by flokii: 10:56am On Aug 15, 2023 |
I know places like Ogun, Oyo and others in South West would have developed more than the way it is now had it been the Igbos didn't destroy our working system of governance back then to usher in unitary system of government.. They do things without thinking of the after effect. Ikeja, Apapa and other industrial areas in Lagos State up till Ibadan in Oyo were developed by Western region governmemt to taste.. Awolowo and many other Yorubas at the time had so many developmental plans for our region and people but likes of Nnamdi Azikiwe and Ironsi only wanted to steal resources from Yorubaland.. reason Zik was busy fighting Awolowo over Premiership in Western region (Yorubaland) while an Igbo like him was Premier in the Eastern region. Ironsi got there too and scattered the whole thing, ended regional government for unitary government, thinking only Igbos will be the ones ruling at the centre.. Na Igbo sense be that for you. God will bless Gowon for ending Igbo ethnic domination agenda by removing South South from the Eastern region. The Igbos colluded with North to remove Mid West (old Bendel) from Western region to reduce Yorubas influence in politcs but fought and are still fighting till date against independence of the Ijaws, Ikwerres and other ethnic groups in Niger Delta from South East. No be hypocrisy be that?. 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by ElSudani: 10:58am On Aug 15, 2023 |
BeninRefugees: Uncouth and abusive as ever. Putting their arguments forward without having a breakdown is like Obi trying to win the presidency....Impossible task. Your hero ruined a working arrangement, a product of several negotiations by a thoughtless, whimsical and arbitrary decree. |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by BeninRefugees: 11:08am On Aug 15, 2023 |
flokii: Typical agbado 🤡🤡🤡🤡 So after 50 + years now As expected let's blame Igbos Some of Una dey Benin as refugees Some dey protest for palliative Kwara gone forever! SE has the least poorest people What tells you igbos success is linked politically? Wetin Concern us and who dey rule ? we've proven to all of you haters that our success isn't related to politics Una still dey fear till Tomorrow say we wan take over SS? north has been controling Thier oil wells reducing them pipeline guards we no care Oil era is getting over we entering gas era relax shege is still loading You people should ramp up your hates so more of people will be looking inwardly You people have completely lost it just because Obi contested and had massive support Relax save your tears 😭 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by saysoo: 11:10am On Aug 15, 2023 |
Yes |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by genkins(m): 11:14am On Aug 15, 2023 |
rinzaugustine:nice write up.but when u mentioned Blaise compaore it seems u don't know what u are saying .I bet u wanted to say thomas Sankara... 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by BeninRefugees: 11:16am On Aug 15, 2023 |
ElSudani: Obi win or lose is a success the fact the he was able to amass such followership within a year and not only that won Lagos , Abuja and other northern states really showed that your propaganda is losing relevance It's a wonderful start and every sincere mind knows that! And I am sending my regards to all right thinking Yorubas that supported what right The fact that you people have been ruling 50 years plunging Nigeria into more doom has vindicated igbo Slanderous, hateful , pro -war and congenital liars that's what you guys are! We've bursted all your lies ! Demystified all your trickery The "let's hate them " campaign has ramped up after the election we are here to burst all your lies and propaganda. s 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by Napata77: 11:18am On Aug 15, 2023 |
gidgiddy: Pack of lies. Of course Ironsi sent Nzeogwu to Aba prison where he was freed by Ojukwu. And of course Ironsi destroyed the autonomy of the regions and centralised power in a unitary state via Decree 34. This is confirmed in this article by the US Council on Foreign Relations. https://www.cfr.org/blog/nigerias-unitary-federalism?amp And NO, the 1966 coup was NOT “popular”, except in the demented heads of tribalist Igbos like your father. It certainly wasn’t “popular” in the north after your demonic kinsmen slaughtered their leaders, you psychopath. 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by orisa37: 11:19am On Aug 15, 2023 |
"Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's greatest enemy"? Aguiyi IRONSIDE was an unintelligent AUTOCRAT. |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by ElSudani: 11:23am On Aug 15, 2023 |
BeninRefugees: Nobody cares about your constant lies and shameless attempts at rewriting the history of Nigeria. You are like a dog chasing it's own tail. No one is after you. Nobody cares. |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by BeninRefugees: 11:28am On Aug 15, 2023 |
ElSudani:🤡🤡🤡🤡 How many books have you read ? 🤡 Failed attempt to turn table Just go and check politics section and see who is always crying and making post about people who don't give hoot about them ! Na Una! this thread is just one of them Abeg gettat of my mention! |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by gidgiddy: 12:08pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
flokii: Ahhh I see. Igbos destroyed your working form of Governance? Beyond Ibadan, capital of the Western Region, was there any meaningful development anywhere else in the West? Or is to be claiming Lagos that was capital of Nigeria since 1914? You guys were clapping and cheering Gowon on as he used decree 14 to to abolish the 4 Regions Nigeria had and embark on state creation, and decree 15 to end resource control, all this while Awolowo was his 2ic Funny people everywhere 1 Like |
Re: Is Aguiyi-Ironsi Nigeria's Greatest Enemy? by gidgiddy: 12:12pm On Aug 15, 2023 |
Napata77: This is the intellectual laziness we talk about. Despite Ironsi's decree 34 , Gowons decree 14 and 15 all being available online for anyone to read and verify who did what, this one is still relying on third party narratives and blogs to reach his own conclusions https://www.nairaland.com/5690269/how-gowon-introduced-unitary-rule 1 Like |
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