Jay16:
Leaving Nigeria will be the end of Guinness.

One state consumption of Guinness product in Nigeria is more than some countries.

Just like multi choice leaving Nigeria

Big fat lie.
I know we are a patriotic people,but let us stop deceiving ourselves. There is quality numbers and quantity numbers. Nigeria is majorly quantity which makes it easier for foreign investors to take flight whenever the figures don't make sense.
It is easier for the European and Americans to leave because their business models run on quick entry and exit. The Chinese and the Indians however will remain because they understand the quantity market and besides,they are playing the long game.
Google Diageo and look at their numbers,then Google the value of your annual oil exports. We talk big in naija but in the grand scheme of things we are tinyyyyy.

mariahAngel:
Of course, they won't.
Nigeria is a big market for them.

They dare not leave, and still want to sell us their products like GSK did.
You can't take away your jobs, but still want to sell to us your products.



Economy bad no mean say Nigerians no go drink again.

of course drunkers always think of bottles

triple996:
Make them de go. Na south south people go feel am pass

of course nobody deal with unserious nation like Nigeria, and her citizen

FalseProphet1:
I see them leaving beg the end of this year.

This I have seen.

your own prophet always see negative

fuckJones:
obi is the one praying for them to leave so he can sell his products

Tinubu is chasing our investors out of Nijja. Nawa oo this yeye government know go kill us.

Henz81:
Tinubu is chasing our investors out of Nijja. Nawa oo this yeye government know go kill us.

tinubu Lagos attracted more investors in Nigeria than obi Anambra state, true or false

Na so dem go talk b4 dem run go Ghana or Lome

No serious development can happen in nigeria when your prices and currency keep going up and down like seesaw

nairalanda1:


Nigeria Breweries says Hi....indigenous producer of beer.




That's what happens when you refine fuel at N600 and sell it at N195 for years...domestic refining becomes unattractive, and importing becomes more attractive.

How many Naigerians buys from Naigerian breweries? and why worry about losing employments by Guinness? Naigerian breweries will employ those who would lose their jobs, Naigerian breweries will also produce enough for the Naigerian market i guess. therefor don't by any other beer. Would Naigerian breweries also produce Guinness? Which a large number of Naigerians consume. Inshort, people should only buy beer produced by Naigerian breweries, they shouldn't have the choice of consuming Guinness.




Exactly, who da hell does that in a bussiness? Sell below cost price? especially when the raw material are abundant at your backyard. it is ironically bizzare as i ve said previously.


Did you know that Qatar is an oil rich country? and the Qataris pays very cheap for petrol in Qatar. One wonders how they managed to keep the price of petrol very low for their citizens.

Na dem dey spread the fake info to set the masses against the government

kushe:


Big fat lie.
I know we are a patriotic people,but let us stop deceiving ourselves. There is quality numbers and quantity numbers. Nigeria is majorly quantity which makes it easier for foreign investors to take flight whenever the figures don't make sense.
It is easier for the European and Americans to leave because their business models run on quick entry and exit. The Chinese and the Indians however will remain because they understand the quantity market and besides,they are playing the long game.
Google Diageo and look at their numbers,then Google the value of your annual oil exports. We talk big in naija but in the grand scheme of things we are tinyyyyy.

Don't mind the ignoramuses. consolling themselves in denial.

My honest opinion is that this government doesn't have a watertight response to a failing economy and it is so sad because I thought this man was ready for the job.
Brace up Nigeria.,the road ahead is quite bumpy and the driver no sabi road plus visibility is poor cause night Don reach.

Can they leave before? They are stuck here, we pin in this Agbado administration.

mariahAngel:
Of course, they won't.
Nigeria is a big market for them.

They dare not leave, and still want to sell us their products like GSK did.
You can't take away your jobs, but still want to sell to us your products.



Economy bad no mean say Nigerians no go drink again.

Who drink na him wise oooo

Zonefree:
Na so ShopRite take deny until they japa

shoprite no dey naija again?

Na them sabi.

The situation in Nigeria is hard. I wouldn't blame any company planning on relocating. They are free to go. The only seamless ventures in this environment are oil production and agriculture.

Calitoscassius:
How many Naigerians buys from Naigerian breweries? and why worry about losing employments by Guinness? Naigerian breweries will employ those who would lose their jobs, Naigerian breweries will also produce enough for the Naigerian market i guess. therefor don't by any other beer. Would Naigerian breweries also produce Guinness? Which a large number of Naigerians consume. Inshort, people should only buy beer produced by Naigerian breweries, they shouldn't have the choice of consuming Guinness.

Consumers of products like Star Beer and Maltina are probably in the millions....

Exactly, who da hell does that in a bussiness? Sell below cost price? especially when the raw material are abundant at your backyard. it is ironically bizzare as i ve said previously.

Like I ever suggested anyone sell below cost price.

Did you know that Qatar is an oil rich country? and the Qataris pays very cheap for petrol in Qatar. One wonders how they managed to keep the price of petrol very low for their citizens.

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Well, considering Qatar produces just as much oil as we do....AND our populaiton is some 100 times theirs...they would have more money.

Much more money per person.

THAT IS WHY...Nigeria has to stop relying on oil, and get a government that would take us down the road to either being an industrial exporter, or we export more and more raw materials apart from oil, and jumpstart our agric production.

nairalanda1:


Consumers of products like Star Beer and Maltina are probably in the millions....





Like I ever suggested anyone sell below cost price.



Well, considering Qatar produces just as much oil as we do....AND our populaiton is some 100 times theirs...they would have more money.

Much more money per person.

THAT IS WHY...Nigeria has to stop relying on oil, and get a government that would take us down the road to either being an industrial exporter, or we export more and more raw materials apart from oil, and jumpstart our agric production.

Yes, probarbly but not definite, they could also be fewer than millions.




Well... your earlier explaination goes thus, I quote. "that is what happens when you refine petrol at 600 and sell for 195" this clearly suggests that it is sold below production costs or cost price as i put it. You may not agree but that is what it is.




I agree, because as it appears Naigeria right now and in the last 3 decades atleast DO NOT produce, exports or exported anything. Hence their reliance on imported and foreign products and companies including GUINNESS. and i doubt they would stop relying on oil and imported commodities in the future.


As you have already explained with the oil refinery the cost of producing anything in Naigeria would ALWAYS exceed the selling price substantially.


Good luck with finding the government that would change things for the better without CORRUPTION.

Calitoscassius:
Yes, probarbly but not definite, they could also be fewer than millions.

I dare say it is

Well... your earlier explaination goes thus, I quote. "that is what happens when you refine petrol at 600 and sell for 195" this clearly suggests that it is sold below production costs or cost price as i put it.

That's just a summary of why we don't have refineries...in simpler language.

Briefly, we sold fuel below what it cost to produce and paid money to the sector to cover the losses. That's what is called a subsidy Nigerian style...and is why we don't even have good refineries.

For refineries to work, people have to sell fuel at a price higher than it costs to produce it....just as your friend the baker has to sell bread a ta cost above what it cost him to bake the bread to make profit to pay salaries, pay for ingredients, machineries, taxes, etc.

As you have already explained with the oil refinery the cost of producing anything in Naigeria would ALWAYS exceed the selling price substantially.

Because it has to, other wise, the company would collapse if it sold at a loss.


I mean, that's capitalism. Nothing is cheap.

nairalanda1:


Nigeria Breweries says Hi....indigenous producer of beer.




That's what happens when you refine fuel at N600 and sell it at N195 for years...domestic refining becomes unattractive, and importing becomes more attractive.

Nigerian breweries is a foreign company, stop the cap.

nairalanda1:


I dare say it is






That's just a summary of why we don't have refineries...in simpler language.

Briefly, we sold fuel below what it cost to produce and paid money to the sector to cover the losses. That's what is called a subsidy Nigerian style...and is why we don't even have good refineries.

For refineries to work, people have to sell fuel at a price higher than it costs to produce it....just as your friend the baker has to sell bread a ta cost above what it cost him to bake the bread to make profit to pay salaries, pay for ingredients, machineries, taxes, etc.










Because it has to, other wise, the company would collapse if it sold at a loss.

I mean, that's capitalism. Nothing is cheap.

Still not definite. You might dare say it is. I could aswell dare say it isn't.






Fine, you win! I am moving on!

Be lucky!

Calitoscassius:
Still not definite. You might dare say it is. I could aswell dare say it isn't.






Fine, you win! I am moving on!

Be lucky!

The purpose of this discussion is not to have winners and losers.

nairalanda1:


The purpose of this discussion is not to have winners and losers.

What has it been about then?

Calitoscassius:
What has it been about then?

Winners and losers is irrelevant. In ten years, no one would care. In twenty years, it would be moot.

Ope o

nairalanda1:


Winners and losers is irrelevant. In ten years, no one would care. In twenty years, it would be moot.

I fail to comprehend, perhaps you should elaborate further in simplified terms.

Calitoscassius:
I fail to comprehend, perhaps you should elaborate further in simplified terms.

And as the great somebody once said..

“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment”

This is a site. All discussions here are irrelevant. Don't try to make it too relevant to you.

nairalanda1:


And as the great somebody once said..

“If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but to your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment”

This is a site. All discussions here are irrelevant. Don't try to make it too relevant to you.

I only asked you to explain because i didn't understand, how can i know if it is relevant or consider it irrelevant if i didn't understand it.


I still cannot understand. I am even more confused than i was.

FalseProphet1:
I see them leaving before the end of this year.

This I have seen.

They have already left. The Benin plant is already sold to a brewery in the East. Justrite has taken over the Oba Akran factory. They are only producing Origin bitters at Acme road. If they can lie like this, then we should boycott their products.

My friend Udeme is a great man!

nairalanda1:


Actually, it is the South west that drinks Guinness well well.

As for South South, there would be riots if the aromatic schnapps industry in Nigeria and the dry gin industry in Nigeria decide to close shop.

The East has Hero lager, and most especially 33.

Chaii