GOD and MAN are Trinity-Beings.
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, let us create Man in our own image and likeness"

GOD= The Father, The Word and The Holy Spirit.

🌐John 8:42 "Jesus said; I CAME OUT from God" {Begotten}
🌐John 16:27-28 "Jesus said; I CAME OUT from the Father...He sent me"
🌐John 15:26 "I will send you the Holy Ghost which PROCEEDETH OUT from the Father".

MAN= The Body, The Soul and The Spirit.

🌐1Thessalonians 5:23 "I pray God, your SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY be preserved blameless unto the Coming.."
🌐Hebrews 4:10 "The Word of God is quick....piercing to the dividing asunder of SOUL AND SPIRIT, the joints and marrow.."
🌐Proverbs 16:32 "..he that ruleth his SPIRIT {is better} than he that taketh a city."
🌐1 Corinthians 14:32 "The SPIRITS of the prophets are subject to the prophets."
🌐Proverbs 25:28: He that hath no rule over his own SPIRIT is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.
🌐Ezekiel 18:4 "The SOUL that sinneth shall die"

Did you always find the Trinity-doctrine difficult to understand? And have you now been clarified?

Point of Note:

•Aside from Marriage, Your Soul is your "Only Begotten". Begotten means "to come out" of somebody in his/her image
•Jesus said 'in Heaven, the saints will be like the angels that do not marry"
•In the Afterlife, Man's Soul will receive a new body. A glorious body(for Saints) or a body of death (for the damned).
•Your SPIRIT is within your SOUL. {Hebrews 4:10}
•I used King James Bible. It is the Preserved Word of God. 1John 5:7

Please Bookmark these scriptures and meditate on them.

The Father in TRINITY is akin to the Man's Body.

1 Corinthians 15:44 KJV: "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."

Even though God is a Spirit. A Spirit has a spiritual body.

Just like when Bible says 'Man became a Living Soul' (spirit). We possess a natural Body.

The WORD OF GOD in TRINITY is akin to a Man's Soul which comes out of his natural body.

John 16:27-28

"Just like when Bible says 'Man became a Living Soul"
Did God write spirit you put there in Genesis 2:7?

This people won't ever learn and be free from 3 deities delusion

Janosky:
"Just like when Bible says 'Man became a Living Soul"
Did God write spirit you put there in Genesis 2:7?
This people won't ever learn and be free from 3 deities delusion

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

of course u r forever loving to blaspheme and call Father and Son and Holy Spirit, 3 deities/3 gods:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.

johnw47:


Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

of course u r forever loving to blaspheme and call Father and Son and Holy Spirit, 3 deities/3 gods:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.

John W sifia pains.
For the dustbin

Janosky:
John W sifia pains.
For the dustbin

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky

of course your blaspheming calling Father Son and Holy Spirit, 3 deities/3 gods
means nothing to you:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Interesting arguments but it seems a little more confusion .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JasJSrWQuuk

God is not a baby?
God doesn't grow
God wasn't breastfed
God is not flesh
God is not man
God is not a Jew
God is not begotten

God is father
God is never son, God is in Son
God is holy spirit


Varied views oh
Problem

Finalizes with the phrase

TRINITARIAN MYTH MISS

Explore2xmore:
Interesting arguments but it seems a little more confusion .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JasJSrWQuuk

God is not a baby?
God doesn't grow
God wasn't breastfed
God is not flesh
God is not man
God is not a Jew
God is not begotten

God is father
God is never son, God is in Son
God is holy spirit


Varied views oh
Problem

Finalizes with the phrase

TRINITARIAN MYTH MISS

TRINITY is not a myth because you are not a myth.
To deny Trinity is to deny your entire existence or perhaps mere ignorance.

Don't forget that Allah
1) Misinterpreted Trinity by infering to it as God taking a wife to have a son.
2) erroneously claimed that Christian's Trinity is God the Father, the Son and Mary.
Even the most heretic Christians, Roman Catholics, JW, Mormons do not believe this.

1) Is definitely ignorance.
2) is either Ignorance or MISCHIEF. Nor hard for a god that calls himself the best of deceivers and kept Jews and Christians deceived for 600 years to believe Jesus was Crucified.

MrPRevailer:
The WORD OF GOD in TRINITY is akin to a Man's Soul which comes out of his natural body.

John 16:27-28

The Holy Spirit in TRINITY is akin to the Spirit of Man.
John 15:26, Proverbs 16:32

The Son is Subject to the Father

🌐 John 6:38, Jesus said, “For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but the will of Him who sent me.”

🌐 1 Corinthians 15:28 "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."

1Corinthians 14:32 "The Spirit of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets"

I am not a myth and definitely not a trinity.

Allah did not misinterprete the trinity unless you claim he defined trinity as you state. Simply as a monotheistic faith it states nothing to be co worshipped with him.
a) It debunks any claim of God bearing a Son through which you pray to him

b) It states that a claimed son is not equal to him and God cannot be born by his creation.

Even if you say Catholics are not Christians is this statement not from Pope John Paul 2?
Mary "is endowed with the high office and dignity of the Mother of the Son of God, and therefore she is also the beloved daughter of the Father and the temple of the Holy Spirit"


Specifically praising Jesus as God is making him co divine with God.
Calling Mary a mother of God is degrading.

Further blasphemy?

Hear, O Israel, Adonai Eloheinu Adonai is one. These three are one. How can the three Names be one? Only through the perception of faith; in the vision of the Holy Spirit, in the beholding of the hidden eye alone.…So it is with the mystery of the threefold Divine manifestations designated by Adonai Eloheinu Adonai—three modes which yet form one unity.

Emboldened is your belief?

You follow the assertions of the true mischief makers. Translate deceiver from English to arabic and compare this to where the claim of Allah being a deceiver exists.

Furthermore do say the early Christians up till the advance of Protestantism in the 16th century were misguided for 1500 years.

No trinitarian doctrine is explicitly taught in the Old Testament Sophisticated trinitarians grant this, holding that the doctrine was revealed by God only later, in New Testament times (c.50–c.100) and/or in the Patristic era (c. 100–800). They usually also add, though, that with hindsight, we can see that a number of texts either portray or forshadow the co-working of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Very simply put Greek philosophy laid the foundation for the concept of the trinity. Influenced by the philosophical ideas of Plato, Aristotle, and other prominent thinkers, early Christian theologians drew on these principles to develop the doctrine of the trinity.

MrPRevailer:


TRINITY is not a myth because you are not a myth.
To deny Trinity is to deny your entire existence or perhaps mere ignorance.

Don't forget that Allah
1) Misinterpreted Trinity by infering to it as God taking a wife to have a son.
2) erroneously claimed that Christian's Trinity is God the Father, the Son and Mary.
Even the most heretic Christians, Roman Catholics, JW, Mormons do not believe this.

1) Is definitely ignorance.
2) is either Ignorance or MISCHIEF. Nor hard for a god that calls himself the best of deceivers and kept Jews and Christians deceived for 600 years to believe Jesus was Crucified.

Fairytales! Trinity my ass!

MrPRevailer:
GOD and MAN are Trinity-Beings.
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, let us create Man in our own image and likeness"

GOD= The Father, The Word and The Holy Spirit.

🌐John 8:42 "Jesus said; I CAME OUT from God" {Begotten}
🌐John 16:27-28 "Jesus said; I CAME OUT from the Father...He sent me"
🌐John 15:26 "I will send you the Holy Ghost which PROCEEDETH OUT from the Father".

MAN= The Body, The Soul and The Spirit.

🌐1Thessalonians 5:23 "I pray God, your SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY be preserved blameless unto the Coming.."
🌐Hebrews 4:10 "The Word of God is quick....piercing to the dividing asunder of SOUL AND SPIRIT, the joints and marrow.."
🌐Proverbs 16:32 "..he that ruleth his SPIRIT {is better} than he that taketh a city."
🌐1 Corinthians 14:32 "The SPIRITS of the prophets are subject to the prophets."
🌐Proverbs 25:28: He that hath no rule over his own SPIRIT is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.
🌐Ezekiel 18:4 "The SOUL that sinneth shall die"

Did you always find the Trinity-doctrine difficult to understand? And have you now been clarified?

So when a man dies, what happen to the body, soul and spirit?

MrPRevailer:
GOD and MAN are Trinity-Beings.
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, let us create Man in our own image and likeness"

GOD= The Father, The Word and The Holy Spirit.

🌐John 8:42 "Jesus said; I CAME OUT from God" {Begotten}
🌐John 16:27-28 "Jesus said; I CAME OUT from the Father...He sent me"
🌐John 15:26 "I will send you the Holy Ghost which PROCEEDETH OUT from the Father".

MAN= The Body, The Soul and The Spirit.

🌐1Thessalonians 5:23 "I pray God, your SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY be preserved blameless unto the Coming.."
🌐Hebrews 4:10 "The Word of God is quick....piercing to the dividing asunder of SOUL AND SPIRIT, the joints and marrow.."
🌐Proverbs 16:32 "..he that ruleth his SPIRIT {is better} than he that taketh a city."
🌐1 Corinthians 14:32 "The SPIRITS of the prophets are subject to the prophets."
🌐Proverbs 25:28: He that hath no rule over his own SPIRIT is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.
🌐Ezekiel 18:4 "The SOUL that sinneth shall die"

Did you always find the Trinity-doctrine difficult to understand? And have you now been clarified?

Is the father, spirit and son seperable?

Michael547:

Is the father, spirit and son seperable?

Obviously obvious bro.
They are operating seperately.
But it first started with both coming out from the Father.

We humans are limited in our ability to do that. But occult people can pull it off to an extent, with astral projection or soul travel.

Michael547:

So when a man dies, what happen to the body, soul and spirit?

The flesh and blood returns to dust.
The Soul leaves the body. Either goes at lightening speed to Heaven or falls into the pit in the Earth a.k.a Hellfire. Depending on where one's name is found at the point of death.

The soul will be given a new spiritual body. The glorious body of the Saints will be in heaven awaiting the new Heaven. The damned souls of sinners will be in Hellfire awaiting the Lake of fire.

It seems the spirit of man remains sleeping in the dust of the Earth.
Because there is a resurrection of the Saints that happens in the day of Rapture.
And in the resurrection of the damned.
The Soul and spirit will unite in the day of judgement.

We are a soul..

We don't have a soul..

Spirit + body = soul.

When the soul dies, the spirit returns to God who owns it and the body is buried for it to return to dust...shikena.

God is one....wholly divine consciousness. Not a man or human being. God can not be part of creation. It is not possible...

God is life itself, it is the universe itself, since the universe is mental rather than material ...

Jesus is a creation of the Roman Catholic Church....it's got nothing to do with the creator.....

sonmvayina:
We are a soul..

We don't have a soul..

Spirit + body = soul.

When the soul dies, the spirit returns to God who owns it and the body is buried for it to return to dust...shikena.

God is one....wholly divine consciousness. Not a man or human being. God can not be part of creation. It is not possible...

God is life itself, it is the universe itself, since the universe is mental rather than material ...

Jesus is a creation of the Roman Catholic Church....it's got nothing to do with the creator.....

All your thesis are wrong according to the Bible's authority.

By stating God cannot be a part of his creation, you are limiting God and denying the power of his love.

MrPRevailer:


All your thesis are wrong according to the Bible's authority.

By stating God cannot be a part of his creation, you are limiting God and denying the power of his love.

God does not look like anything he created. He is the only God...no one besides or in front of The creator.

God is the universal divine consciousness or spirit.

There is no authority in the Bible...it is just words on paper. What it does is guide you to your creator. Watch out for my new thread..

MrPRevailer:


Obviously obvious bro.
They are operating seperately.
But it first started with both coming out from the Father.

We humans are limited in our ability to do that. But occult people can pull it off to an extent, with astral projection or soul travel.

So who is greater between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit since the son and holy spirit came out from the Father?

The flesh and blood returns to dust.
The Soul leaves the body. Either goes at lightening speed to Heaven or falls into the pit in the Earth a.k.a Hellfire. Depending on where one's name is found at the point of death.

The soul will be given a new spiritual body. The glorious body of the Saints will be in heaven awaiting the new Heaven. The damned souls of sinners will be in Hellfire awaiting the Lake of fire.

It seems the spirit of man remains sleeping in the dust of the Earth.
Because there is a resurrection of the Saints that happens in the day of Rapture.
And in the resurrection of the damned.
The Soul and spirit will unite in the day of judgement.

Where does the Bible teach that the soul leaves the body after death?
If the soul of a man does not die when a man dies, How can you explain Ezekiel 18:4 below?

Michael547:

So who is greater between the Father, Son and Holy Spirit since the son and holy spirit came out from the Father?

1 Corinthians 8:6 "The Father OF WHOM are all things. And Jesus BY WHOM are all things."

"My Father is greater than I".
"He (The HolyGhost) will glorify me. For he will take of mine and show you".

Both the Word and Spirit are subject to the Father. They belong to the Father.

Michael547:

Where does the Bible teach that the soul leaves the body after death?
If the soul of a man does not die when a man dies, How can you explain Ezekiel 18:4 below?

The story of the rich man and poor lazarus. Immediately they died, they found themselves in their respective destinations.

There are two types of death.
1) The death of the natural/mortal body, which returns to the dust.

2) The death of the Soul is
the condemnation/eternal separation from God and all goodness from him. Sin is the only thing that cause this. And the antidote is the blood of Jesus Christ.
It is also called the Second death. {Revelation 21:8}.
The Soul is eternal and cannot cease to exist. So it will be cast into eternal prison if it is condemned.

MrPRevailer:


1 Corinthians 8:6 "The Father OF WHOM are all things. And Jesus BY WHOM are all things."

"My Father is greater than I".
"He (The HolyGhost) will glorify me. For he will take of mine and show you".

Both the Word and Spirit are subject to the Father. They belong to the Father.

So do you agree that the Son is not equal to the father?

The story of the rich man and poor lazarus. Immediately they died, they found themselves in their respective destinations.

Did Jesus indicate that their soul separated from their body to the respective destinations in that parable?

If the Parable is a true life story, where did the soul of Lazarus the brother to Mary and Martha go when he died before he was resurrected on the fourth day?

There are two types of death.
1) The death of the natural/mortal body, which returns to the dust.

2) The death of the Soul is
the condemnation/eternal separation from God and all goodness from him. Sin is the only thing that cause this. And the antidote is the blood of Jesus Christ.
It is also called the Second death. {Revelation 21:8}.
The Soul is eternal and cannot cease to exist. So it will be cast into eternal prison if it is condemned.

Where does Revelation 21:8 indicate that people's soul without their bodies would be cast into the lake of fire?

Michael547:

So do you agree that the Son is not equal to the father?

The Son is equal with the Father because the Father made him to be. John 17:5
But The Son is subject to the Father. Just as your spirit is subject to you. That's best way i can explain it.

Did Jesus indicate that their soul separated from their body to the respective destinations in that parable?

If the Parable is a true life story, where did the soul of Lazarus the brother to Mary and Martha go when he died before he was resurrected on the fourth day?

Yes. Jesus said the Rich man died and likewise the poor Man. And in Hell, the richman lifted his eyes up to Heaven and saw Lazarus.
Study the bible, don't expect me to spoon feed you lol.

John 11 says Jesus knew lazarus and loved him. So it's apparent that they were all believers in Christ. He and his sisters.
He would have been in Heaven.

Like many Near death or revived from dead people have testified about Heaven and Hell.
Note: Every real thing have fakes. Beware of fake NDEs testimonies. "Supernatural Testimony on youtube is a good channel to learn about NDEs. Also, Divinerevelations.info


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTP4PFkXgGc?si=ID2FQzpuk0o89S_v

Where does Revelation 21:8 indicate that people's soul without their bodies would be cast into the lake of fire?

Flesh and blood will return to the dust.
"Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return".
"Flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God".
"1 Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 42, So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."


Everyone human Soul will put on a spiritual body.
But the glorious body of the saints is different from the corrupt body of the damned

MrPRevailer:


The Son is equal with the Father because the Father made him to be. John 17:5
But The Son is subject to the Father. Just as your spirit is subject to you. That's best way i can explain it.

Where did Jesus say he was equal with his father in John 17:5? Kindly explain John 14:28.

Yes. Jesus said the Rich man died and likewise the poor Man. And in Hell, the richman lifted his eyes up to Heaven and saw Lazarus.
Study the bible, don't expect me to spoon feed you lol.

I am yet to see where Jesus said that their soul separated from their body to their different destinations.
Why would the rich man ask for water, does soul drink water without the body?
Where did Jesus indicate that Abraham was in heaven when Lazarus went to meet him?

John 11 says Jesus knew lazarus and loved him. So it's apparent that they were all believers in Christ. He and his sisters.
He would have been in Heaven.

Kindly point out where Jesus indicated that Lazarus was in heaven?
Was Lazarus not supposed to be at the bossom of Abraham?
If Lazarus had gotten his reward by going to heaven, why would Jesus take it back by bringing him to earth again?

MrPRevailer:


TRINITY is not a myth because you are not a myth.
To deny Trinity is to deny your entire existence or perhaps mere ignorance.

Don't forget that Allah
1) Misinterpreted Trinity by infering to it as God taking a wife to have a son.
2) erroneously claimed that Christian's Trinity is God the Father, the Son and Mary.
Even the most heretic Christians, Roman Catholics, JW, Mormons do not believe this.

1) Is definitely ignorance.
2) is either Ignorance or MISCHIEF. Nor hard for a god that calls himself the best of deceivers and kept Jews and Christians deceived for 600 years to believe Jesus was Crucified.

Sorry for your thinking.

Allah does not define the Trinity in explicit terms within the Quran, but rather critiques its implications through various verses aimed at maintaining monotheistic principles.