Truthday:
Christians themselves knows they're idol worshippers. Not even when they're found everywhere supporting idolatry in Yoruba land. Even if you try so hard to disprove your book. Will you disprove reality before our eyes ??

Christianity(Jesus worshippers) aren't different from Songo(6th Allafin of Oyo) worshippers.

Christianity is nothing but idol worshipping

Dtruthspeaker:


Says another mad Muslim devil who made a paedophile his idol and murders for him

Westerhoffe:
[b]Your logic is illogical.

How many people did you condemn for felling trees?

JESUS CHRIST knew perfectly well that there is no fruit on the fig tree.
Since He was hungry there, He could have commanded the fig tree to brinflg forth fruits, but rather, He denied Himself the satisfaction of food and rather made the tree bear no more fruits, hence, He:

1. Destroyed the carnality of the human mind to dash for food when hungry.

2. Fulfilled what was written, that: “And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.”
— Deuteronomy 8:3 (KJV)[/b]

Which He also quoted here:
“But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”
— Matthew 4:4 (KJV)

So, you make no sense on this wise with your post.

AntiChristian:
I can start from here. No P.

If this is true then, he has denied many to enjoy that tree! How many trees did he planted? Just because he can go hungry does that mean others too must compulsorily do same?

So humans no longer need to dash for food when hungry? Are we no longer humans?

How is this related to the topic?

And after this Jesus still ate many loafs of bread and drank wine!

Wetin be this?



How about the contradiction mentioned?
Apparently you didn't touch anything, just Hocus Pocus!

Westerhoffe:
Your logic is illogical.

How many people did you condemn for felling trees?

JESUS CHRIST knew perfectly well that there is no fruit on the fig tree.
Since He was hungry there, He could have commanded the fig tree to brinflg forth fruits, but rather, He denied Himself the satisfaction of food and rather made the tree bear no more fruits, hence, He:

1. Destroyed the carnality of the human mind to dash for food when hungry.

2. Fulfilled what was written, that: “And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.”
— Deuteronomy 8:3 (KJV)

Which He also quoted here:
“But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”
— Matthew 4:4 (KJV)

3. He manifested the power in His authority, not over flesh alone, but over non-flesh/human of His creations.

And… how many people complained about the tree dying and withering away?
None.

So, what's your stress and tears over a withered tree?
If this is how you rise against the killing of the innocent because they refuse to convert to your religion, there would have been a global peace.

Crying over a dead tree, but not over murderous atrocities committed against human beings!
What a human.

So, you make no sense on this wise with your post.

Truthday:


Not surprised Jesus worshippers are always known for swords.
Jesus was known for sucking the blood of infants 1samuel 15vs3

FxMasterz:


Great response!

More grace in Jesus name.

Truthday:
Christians themselves knows they're idol worshippers. Not even when they're found everywhere supporting idolatry in Yoruba land. Even if you try so hard to disprove your book. Will you disprove reality before our eyes ??

Christianity(Jesus worshippers) aren't different from Songo(6th Allafin of Oyo) worshippers.

Christianity is nothing but idol worshipping

Westerhoffe:


Coming from the same person who bows in one direction, to and kiss a stone, kissed by millions of people.
Many Muslims believe in sorcery. Many Islamic clerics I know in growing up are witchdoctors. So tell me what I do not know.

My previous Muslim neighbour chant and sing Osun Worshipers' songs. Both her and her children.

Or do you think everyone is blind to see and hear these?
My previous muslim neighbour, an Alhaji buries charms on people's lands in broad daylight. He sprinkle charms on the road where people pass in the morning.

Others I've seen pluck bitterleaf with ₦20; and you know what happens next?
The bitterleaf tree dies.

Others caught on camera are seen sleeping with lunatics and wiping her with a white handkerchief to put the handkerchief in a calabash.

Others go to the refuse dump searching for rags… and the list goes on and on and on and on.

So, say no more.

Westerhoffe:


I asked how many people complained of the dead tree?

You can't agree it's related because you see that alone ruin the whole post and it's unreasonable illogical contorted explanation forcefully given to give Him a bad name which does not fit in still.

Wail me a river of tears over the dead tree and I'll show you a hypocrite of the highest order.

I repeat, If only this is how you value the human lives.[/b]

AntiChristian:

If they had complained would the Holy Spirit have informed Matthew, Mark, Luke or John to have written it down?
But it's still minus one not plus one!

Even in the Biblical Laws of Warfare Deuteronomy 20:19-20 trees are to be spared:
…When you lay siege to a city for an extended time while fighting against it to capture it, you must not destroy its trees by putting an axe to them, because you can eat their fruit. You must not cut them down. Are the trees of the field human, that you should besiege them? But you may destroy the trees that you know do not produce fruit. Use them to build siege works against the city that is waging war against you, until it falls.



Address the contradictions therein and stop wailing here!

Dtruthspeaker:


Carrying beads and mats and chanting

Westerhoffe:


Mentioning the Holy Spirit;

1. Who is the Holy Spirit?

[Answer these sincerely and truthfully.

AntiChristian:
The Holy Spirit = Jesus = Yahweh according to trinitarians!

He's not in battle so he's got to be gentler, grow more trees and not destroy any!
The Lord says not to destroy trees even in warfare, must Jesus destroy fruit bearing tree when there's no war?

Jesus fought no one! He does not have military like Moses and Joshua!

Israelites fighting against Palestine!

Of what use is the tree anymore when it withered away?


So there are prayers I made which happened miraculously then i have become super human?
Jesus said by his own self he can do nothing John 5:30!

I think have been truthful enough!

Westerhoffe:



[b]Answer my questions according to you. I'm not asking you to answer me according to anyone's belief.

1. Where did JESUS CHRIST say He was sent to save fig trees?

2. How many Palestinians did JESUS CHRIST fight around the fig tree?

3. You said JESUS CHRIST has no military like Moses and Joshua, yet you claimed He used the sword. How come?

4. Could that tree had withered without a supernatural power knowing its roots were still in the earth?

5. JESUS CHRIST even though He teaches and exudes honouring the FATHER, He said, “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
— Matthew 28:18 (KJV)

No… you weren't being truthful. If these are your definition of truth, then you have no truth at all.[/b]

AntiChristian:
Was he sent to wither away trees rather?

Israelites been killing them for over 7 decades!



Because Jesus told his disciples to get swords in the Gospel. And i remember he had sword in the old testament!

Prophets were given such powers before him. An example is Elisha who curse 42 kids to death in the name of the LORD simply because they called him "bald head"! So the power of life and death dey with the Lord.

All power? You mean the father and spirit has lost their own powers? But then, Jesus didn't know the hour when asked despite the powers which means he's not omniscient!

He cautioned someone who called him good master saying only God is good!


How then is truth defined?
Must it corelated with your own version of truth?

Truthday:
Christians themselves knows they're idol worshippers. Not even when they're found everywhere supporting idolatry in Yoruba land. Even if you try so hard to disprove your book. Will you disprove reality before our eyes ??

Christianity(Jesus worshippers) aren't different from Songo(6th Allafin of Oyo) worshippers.

Christianity is nothing but idol worshipping

Westerhoffe:


If you believe JESUS CHRIST was in the Old Testament, then you just confirmed He is GOD.

That's all I need to hear from you.

Truthday:


Not surprised Jesus worshippers are always known for swords.
Jesus was known for sucking the blood of infants 1samuel 15vs3

Lawag3:

You are very funny 😂
1 Samuel:15.3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

God was speaking to the Israelites who are Jews not christians to destroy the amalekites as punishment for what they did to the children of Israel how do I know this is the verse before that verse
1 Samuel:15.2
This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.

Where did you see Jesus sucking the blood of infants?

AntiChristian:


Who do you call "Christians"?

No be those who follow Jesus?

Jesus na God to them!

Are those above not following Jesus that is God too and does that not make them Christians?

Lawag3:


Are jews followers of Jesus Christ? Do they believe in Jesus?

Then by your logic moslems are also christians because they believe in God who is one with Jesus who they do not believe in

AntiChristian:


Being Jewish is a race! Jesus was a Jew and died a Jew!

You Christians believe the God in the Old testament is still the same Jesus so why separate those who worship same God before and later?

Is Jesus Christ no more the same yesterday, now and forever?

Lawag3:


And Jews has a religion of Judaism. is Judaism Christianity?

One God Three persons or personality

Lawag3:

You are very funny 😂
1 Samuel:15.3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

God was speaking to the Israelites who are Jews not christians to destroy the amalekites as punishment for what they did to the children of Israel how do I know this is the verse before that verse
1 Samuel:15.2
This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.

Where did you see Jesus sucking the blood of infants?

Lawag3:


You just insulted Mohammed. Mohammed never called christians idol worshipers he respected the injil acknowledged that Jesus was the bringer of good news.

You know that a true Christian with will never support idolatry but you close you eyes to that fact you try to make christian as vile as your religions fanatics to try to make Jesus as vile as Mohammed but you can't. I pray you see the truth

Truthday:


Jesus killed infants or not

Eesa is not this bloody murderer

AntiChristian:
Jesus and the Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

Given the Christians' belief that Jesus is God, though there are exceptions in some Christian denominations. In this article, I will use the Bible to question the Godship of Jesus in the Bible as well as his being loving including the reliability of the Bible.

We read in the Bible:
St. Mark 11:13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he (Jesus) came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
St. Mark 11:14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
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There is a little problem in the verses above. God is conceived by theists to be Omniscient, having total knowledge. If Jesus is God, he should have known that:
1) There was no fruit on the tree
2) It was not the season of the figs (something that doesn't take any supernatural power to know)

Hence, The fig tree was not guilty of Jesus' action against it. It wasn't the season of the figs, the fig wasn't responsible for Jesus' hunger (God that hungers), neither was it responsible for Jesus not being Omniscient.

Now, we read further in this chapter:
St. Mark 11:20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.
St. Mark 11:21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.

According to these verses, The fig tree didn't wither immediately. It was Peter who noticed and called the attention to its being withered.

Let us see what the author of the gospel of Matthew has to say about this event:
St. Matthew 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And PRESENTLY THE FIG TREE WITHERED AWAY.
St. Matthew 21:20 And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!
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This is a very serious contradiction. It is necessary for Christian apologists, Evangelists, bishops, Bible thumper to prove to us how God inspired that the fig tree withered immediately and also not immediately.
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However, the Gospel of Matthew and Mark agree that the fig tree withered away. It is also important to note that it is not as if two different authors are narrating the same event, the author of the gospel of Mathew copied from the Gospel of Mark and he was a very bad copier like his copy copy pal (the author of the gospel of Luke) who also copied from Gospel of Mark.
Since the fig tree withered away, there is a serious problem.
Let us note:
1) The fig tree was not planted by Jesus
2) The fig tree must have been producing fruits before Jesus cursed it
3) people must have been feeding from this tree when it is in its season
4) Jesus cursed the fig tree, it withered, and he never planted another one. Hence, Jesus' action was more of a criminal act against the tree and the people benefiting from the fig tree.

Now, The fig tree is a member of mulberry family. The health benefits of figs come from the presence of minerals, vitamins and fiber contained in the fruit. Figs contain a wealth of beneficial nutrients, including vitamin A, vitamin B1, vitamin B2, calcium, iron, phosphorus, manganese, sodium, potassium and chlorine... By making this tree wither, these are what Jesus destroyed without fixing it.
If Jesus wanted to show them miracles, He could have simply asked fruits grow on the fig tree to feed his disciples and for the betterment of the people in that vicinity.

We Muslims believe in and revere Jesus being a mighty messenger of God but attributes like these, we utterly reject them.
Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman