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Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 12:40pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Jesus and the Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman Given the Christians' belief that Jesus is God, though there are exceptions in some Christian denominations. In this article, I will use the Bible to question the Godship of Jesus in the Bible as well as his being loving including the reliability of the Bible. We read in the Bible: St. Mark 11:13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he (Jesus) came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. St. Mark 11:14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it. _________________________________ There is a little problem in the verses above. God is conceived by theists to be Omniscient, having total knowledge. If Jesus is God, he should have known that: 1) There was no fruit on the tree 2) It was not the season of the figs (something that doesn't take any supernatural power to know) Hence, The fig tree was not guilty of Jesus' action against it. It wasn't the season of the figs, the fig wasn't responsible for Jesus' hunger (God that hungers), neither was it responsible for Jesus not being Omniscient. Now, we read further in this chapter: St. Mark 11:20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. St. Mark 11:21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away. According to these verses, The fig tree didn't wither immediately. It was Peter who noticed and called the attention to its being withered. Let us see what the author of the gospel of Matthew has to say about this event: St. Matthew 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And PRESENTLY THE FIG TREE WITHERED AWAY. St. Matthew 21:20 And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away! ______________________________ This is a very serious contradiction. It is necessary for Christian apologists, Evangelists, bishops, Bible thumper to prove to us how God inspired that the fig tree withered immediately and also not immediately. ________________________ However, the Gospel of Matthew and Mark agree that the fig tree withered away. It is also important to note that it is not as if two different authors are narrating the same event, the author of the gospel of Mathew copied from the Gospel of Mark and he was a very bad copier like his copy copy pal (the author of the gospel of Luke) who also copied from Gospel of Mark. Since the fig tree withered away, there is a serious problem. Let us note: 1) The fig tree was not planted by Jesus 2) The fig tree must have been producing fruits before Jesus cursed it 3) people must have been feeding from this tree when it is in its season 4) Jesus cursed the fig tree, it withered, and he never planted another one. Hence, Jesus' action was more of a criminal act against the tree and the people benefiting from the fig tree. Now, The fig tree is a member of mulberry family. The health benefits of figs come from the presence of minerals, vitamins and fiber contained in the fruit. Figs contain a wealth of beneficial nutrients, including vitamin A, vitamin B1, vitamin B2, calcium, iron, phosphorus, manganese, sodium, potassium and chlorine... By making this tree wither, these are what Jesus destroyed without fixing it. If Jesus wanted to show them miracles, He could have simply asked fruits grow on the fig tree to feed his disciples and for the betterment of the people in that vicinity. We Muslims believe in and revere Jesus being a mighty messenger of God but attributes like these, we utterly reject them. Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman
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Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Westerhoffe(m): 12:51pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Your logic is illogical. How many people did you condemn for felling trees? JESUS CHRIST knew perfectly well that there is no fruit on the fig tree. Since He was hungry there, He could have commanded the fig tree to brinflg forth fruits, but rather, He denied Himself the satisfaction of food and rather made the tree bear no more fruits, hence, He: 1. Destroyed the carnality of the human mind to dash for food when hungry. 2. Fulfilled what was written, that: “And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.” — Deuteronomy 8:3 (KJV) Which He also quoted here: “But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” — Matthew 4:4 (KJV) 3. He manifested the power in His authority, not over flesh alone, but over non-flesh/human of His creations. And… how many people complained about the tree dying and withering away? ![]() None. So, what's your stress and tears over a withered tree? If this is how you rise against the killing of the innocent because they refuse to convert to your religion, there would have been a global peace. Crying over a dead tree, but not over murderous atrocities committed against human beings! What a human. So, you make no sense on this wise with your post. 3 Likes |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Truthday: 12:58pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Christians themselves knows they're idol worshippers. Not even when they're found everywhere supporting idolatry in Yoruba land. Even if you try so hard to disprove your book. Will you disprove reality before our eyes ?? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Christianity(Jesus worshippers) aren't different from Songo(6th Allafin of Oyo) worshippers. Christianity is nothing but idol worshipping 1 Like |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Dtruthspeaker: 1:02pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Truthday: Says another mad Muslim devil who made a paedophile his idol and murders for him. Case of Deborah Yakubu. https://www.nairaland.com/7125436/deborah-yakubu-how-muslims-celebrating#112802137 "Munir Ibrahim Whoever insulted the prophet Muhammad s.a.w (not God o nor Moses o but Mohammed who God nor Moses nor bible knew) deserves to die according to Islamic ruling (not God or bible or Moses o) even if you repent...." |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Truthday: 1:06pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Not surprised Jesus worshippers are always known for swords. Jesus was known for sucking the blood of infants 1samuel 15vs3 |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 1:11pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:I can start from here. No P. JESUS CHRIST knew perfectly well that there is no fruit on the fig tree.If this is true then, he has denied many to enjoy that tree! How many trees did he planted? Just because he can go hungry does that mean others too must compulsorily do same? 1. Destroyed the carnality of the human mind to dash for food when hungry.So humans no longer need to dash for food when hungry? Are we no longer humans? 2. Fulfilled what was written, that: “And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.”How is this related to the topic? Which He also quoted here:And after this Jesus still ate many loafs of bread and drank wine! 3. Be manifested the power in His authority, not over flesh alone, but over non-flesh creations.Wetin be this? So, you make no sense on this wise with your post. How about the contradiction mentioned? Apparently you didn't touch anything, just Hocus Pocus! |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Westerhoffe(m): 1:21pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: I asked how many people complained of the dead tree? Is that tree the only one is Israel? You can't agree it's related because you see that alone ruin the whole post and it's unreasonable illogical contorted explanation forcefully given to give Him a bad name which does not fit in still. Wail me a river of tears over the dead tree and I'll show you a hypocrite of the highest order. I repeat, If only this is how you value the human lives. |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by FxMasterz: 1:25pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Westerhoffe: Great response! More grace in Jesus name. |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Dtruthspeaker: 1:26pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Truthday: Says the world's mass murderers of peoples who murders daily https://www.nairaland.com/7805636/mob-shouting-allah-akbar-set#125151730 https://www.nairaland.com/7656961/heartbreaking-scenes-victims-bandits-attack#122584305 https://www.nairaland.com/7732073/islamic-state-terrorists-attack-secondary#123863904 |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Westerhoffe(m): 1:28pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
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Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Dtruthspeaker: 1:35pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Another stupid release from The Liar, op D'Mad Muslim Evil. Mixing sand and tomato puree and with stone and eood says its soup. First "jesus is God, then Omniscientness, then contradiction, then the fig tree, abeg o is this not the kind of concortion mad people make and eat? |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Westerhoffe(m): 1:39pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Truthday: Coming from the same person who bows in one direction, to worship and kiss a stone, kissed by millions of people. Many Muslims believe in sorcery. Deny it and let me see. Many Islamic clerics I know while growing up are witchdoctors. So tell me what I do not know. My previous Muslim neighbour chant and sing Osun Worshipers' songs. Both her and her children. Or do you think everyone is blind to see and hear these? My previous muslim neighbour, an Alhaji buries charms on people's lands in broad daylight. He sprinkle charms on the road where people pass in the morning. Others I've seen pluck bitterleaf with ₦20; and you know what happens next? The bitterleaf tree dies. Others caught on camera are seen sleeping with lunatics and wiping her with a white handkerchief to put the handkerchief in a calabash. Others go to the refuse dump searching for rags… and the list goes on and on and on and on. So, say no more. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Dtruthspeaker: 1:41pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Westerhoffe: Carrying beads and mats and chanting |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 1:46pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:If they had complained would the Holy Spirit have informed Matthew, Mark, Luke or John to have written it down? Is that tree the only one is Israel?But it's still minus one not plus one! [b]Even in the Biblical Laws of Warfare Deuteronomy 20:19-20 trees are to be spared: …When you lay siege to a city for an extended time while fighting against it to capture it, you must not destroy its trees by putting an axe to them, because you can eat their fruit. You must not cut them down. Are the trees of the field human, that you should besiege them? But you may destroy the trees that you know do not produce fruit. Use them to build siege works against the city that is waging war against you, until it falls. You can't agree it's related because you see that alone ruin the whole post and it's unreasonable illogical contorted explanation forcefully given to give Him a bad name which does not fit in still. Address the contradictions therein and stop wailing here! |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Westerhoffe(m): 1:54pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Mentioning the Holy Spirit; 1. Who is the Holy Spirit? 2. Was JESUS CHRIST in a battle at that time? 3. Who was JESUS CHRIST waging war against? 4. What city was JESUS CHRIST fighting against? 5. Did JESUS CHRIST 'cut down' the tree? 6. If JESUS CHRIST was just a human, why did the tree die and wither? Answer these sincerely and truthfully. |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Westerhoffe(m): 1:54pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 2:26pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:The Holy Spirit = Jesus = Yahweh according to trinitarians! 2. Was JESUS CHRIST in a battle at that time?He's not in battle so he's got to be gentler, grow more trees and not destroy any! The Lord says not to destroy trees even in warfare, must Jesus destroy fruit bearing tree when there's no war? 3. Who was JESUS CHRIST waging war against?Jesus fought no one! He does not have military like Moses and Joshua! 4. What city was JESUS CHRIST fighting against?Israelites fighting against Palestine! 5. Did JESUS CHRIST 'cut down' the tree?Of what use is the tree anymore when it withered away? 6. If JESUS CHRIST was just a human, why did the tree die and wither?So there are prayers I made which happened miraculously then i have become super human? [b] Jesus said by his own self he can do nothing John 5:30! [Answer these sincerely and truthfully.I think have been truthful enough! |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Westerhoffe(m): 3:02pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Answer my questions according to you. I'm not asking you to answer me according to anyone's belief. 1. Where did JESUS CHRIST say He was sent to save fig trees? 2. How many Palestinians did JESUS CHRIST fight around the fig tree? 3. You said JESUS CHRIST has no military like Moses and Joshua, yet you claimed He used the sword. How come? 4. Could that tree had withered without a supernatural power knowing its roots were still in the earth? 5. JESUS CHRIST even though He teaches and exudes honouring the FATHER, He said, “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.” — Matthew 28:18 (KJV) No… you weren't being truthful. If these are your definition of truth, then you have no truth at all. |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 3:13pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:Was he sent to wither away trees rather? 2. How many Palestinians did JESUS CHRIST fight around the fig tree?Israelites been killing them for over 7 decades! 3. You said JESUS CHRIST has no military like Moses and Joshua, yet you claimed He used the sword. How come? Because Jesus told his disciples to get swords in the Gospel. And i remember he had sword in the old testament! 4. Could that tree had withered without a supernatural power knowing its roots were still in the earth?Prophets were given such powers before him. An example is Elisha who curse 42 kids to death in the name of the LORD simply because they called him "bald head"! So the power of life and death dey with the Lord. 5. JESUS CHRIST even though He teaches and exudes honouring the FATHER, He said, “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”All power? You mean the father and spirit has lost their own powers? But then, Jesus didn't know the hour when asked despite the powers which means he's not omniscient! He cautioned someone who called him good master saying only God is good! No… you weren't being truthful. If these are your definition of truth, then you have no truth at all.[/b]How then is truth defined? Must it corelated with your own version of truth? |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Westerhoffe(m): 3:18pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: If you believe JESUS CHRIST was in the Old Testament, then you just confirmed He is GOD. That's all I need to hear from you. |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Lawag3: 3:24pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Truthday: You just insulted Mohammed. Mohammed never called christians idol worshipers he respected the injil acknowledged that Jesus was the bringer of good news. You know that a true Christian with will never support idolatry but you close you eyes to that fact you try to make christian as vile as your religions fanatics to try to make Jesus as vile as Mohammed but you can't. I pray you see the truth 1 Like |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 3:29pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Westerhoffe: Yeah, he was mentioned by name "Jesus"! ![]() |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Lawag3: 3:30pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Truthday:You are very funny 😂 1 Samuel:15.3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'" God was speaking to the Israelites who are Jews not christians to destroy the amalekites as punishment for what they did to the children of Israel how do I know this is the verse before that verse 1 Samuel:15.2 This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Where did you see Jesus sucking the blood of infants? |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 3:34pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Lawag3: Who do you call "Christians"? No be those who follow Jesus? Jesus na God to them! Are those above not following Jesus that is God too and does that not make them Christians? |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Lawag3: 3:37pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Are jews followers of Jesus Christ? Do they believe in Jesus? Then by your logic moslems are also christians because they believe in God who is one with Jesus who they do not believe in |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 3:40pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Lawag3: Being Jewish is a race! Jesus was a Jew and died a Jew! You Christians believe the God in the Old testament is still the same Jesus so why separate those who worship same God before and later? Is Jesus Christ no more the same yesterday, now and forever? |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Lawag3: 3:44pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian: And Jews has a religion of Judaism. is Judaism Christianity? One God Three persons or personality |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by AntiChristian: 3:48pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Lawag3: Mention where Judaism exists as the Jewish religion in their scripture? Didn't Jesus quote the same commandments Moses brought? And where was trinity clearly stated in the old testament? |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Truthday: 6:04pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Lawag3: Your jesgod killed infants or not You go explain tire ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Truthday: 6:06pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Lawag3: Jesus killed infants or not Eesa is not this bloody murderer
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Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Dtruthspeaker: 7:43pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
Truthday: Bandits and their families are always killed and not once have you ever complained |
Re: Jesus And The Fig Tree By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman by Prevailaz: 8:26pm On Aug 17, 2023 |
AntiChristian:bro why are you eager to see the wrath of Jehovah? You have to reasonably ask questions.If this is what your god wants you to be doing to get 70 virgins,I pity you.Just imagine that your religion is not the way,how will you feel after all these stress and violence on nairaland.Repent and be converted. |
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