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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:10pm On Aug 21, 2023
Their mouth always run for canceling till they their family members get involved directly.

That's how the editor in tech cabal went quiet when her bro was called out. Someone that would have sharperdly put out one article with sprinkles of lies.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donjazzet: 6:12pm On Aug 21, 2023
odizeey:


Yes. You are the winner

Come on man! You're my guy, my comrade, at least on the domestic front.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by WhoDeyHause: 6:12pm On Aug 21, 2023
donjazzet:


Your post is blatantly false and I hate when people deliberately lie.

The case was withdrawn simply because the accuser in question didn't wish to proceed further. The witnesses didn't come forward. And not BECAUSE it didn't happen.

Mason Greenwood beat and raped his girlfriend. Going by her words, her live recordings and videos.
But this same Harriet is currently living with greenwood as a soon to be mother of his child and also claimed her account was hacked? Isn't it?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 6:13pm On Aug 21, 2023
donjazzet:


Your post is blatantly false and I hate when people deliberately lie.

The case was withdrawn simply because the accuser in question didn't wish to proceed further. The witnesses didn't come forward. And not BECAUSE it didn't happen.

Mason Greenwood beat and raped his girlfriend. Going by her words, her live recordings and videos.
There was nothing false about my statement. If the evidence was strong enough to get a conviction CPS would have proceeded even without her cooperation.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by WhoDeyHause: 6:13pm On Aug 21, 2023

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 6:14pm On Aug 21, 2023
WhoDeyHause:
L
West ham did that yesterday.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by WhoDeyHause: 6:17pm On Aug 21, 2023
Trevor012:

West ham did that yesterday.
Totenham also did that the day before yesterday. My brother in L aw

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 6:18pm On Aug 21, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

Totenham also did that the day before yesterday. My brother in L aw
West ham 😂
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 6:31pm On Aug 21, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

You seem to be an enemy of progress to this your club. First fernandes, to ten hag now greenwood. And the big clue is all of them have had something to do with ronaldo. 🤐

How did they have something to do with Ronaldo??

Only 7Hag had issues with Ronaldo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 6:31pm On Aug 21, 2023
🚨💰 JUST IN:

Manchester United are close to reaching an agreement with Dutch side Groningen to sell 20yo winger Noam Emeran on a permanent deal.
@LucaBendoni
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 6:50pm On Aug 21, 2023
afrodoc2:


I always knew they would. Only a sale to the Qataris might have saved him. The Glazers don't have the stomach to face cancel culture and i am not sure even Greenwood could have survived hate that was about to be unleashed on him. What is more important now is for him to get a club in a quality league to revive his career.

I wish him well. At least that episode is closed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by akwesenana: 6:52pm On Aug 21, 2023
donjazzet:


He has to be playing making that statement.
Greenwood has no place in football.
I commend Manchester United's decision here. It's very applaudable. Although they shouldn't have put a positive spin on this by trying to provide cover. But still, good they didn't reintegrate him.
This is unrelated, but I'll like to know what your opinion is on how cases like this should be settled when the accuser is found to be indeed innocent. Example the Benjamin Mendy case. smiley

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 6:52pm On Aug 21, 2023
Leyqute:


More like 80%.

Shallow thinking. Emotional reaction.

If Greenwood had kept his dick and hands to himself, he wont be in this situation.

You can't dictate how a victim of abuse will react in their emotional state.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 6:56pm On Aug 21, 2023
odizeey:
Court says not guilty.

Private investigations says not guilty.
But some people will rather hang on to "evidence" that they don't know its origin.

Well, I hope he gets a good club and achieve the greatness he was destined for.

Well, glazers don give them what they want. Glazers is here to stay for life.

Glazer must stay in Jesus name.
the social media judiciary system. They seem to have the most power
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by rooftops: 6:57pm On Aug 21, 2023
The way this cancel culture guys behave amuses me, are they saying there is no room for forgiveness even if the accused shows remorse and amends his way as greenwood has done. What do they expect of him now?what next will they ask for after taking his job from him?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Theflint1(m): 6:58pm On Aug 21, 2023
odizeey:
Court says not guilty.

Private investigations says not guilty.
But some people will rather hang on to "evidence" that they don't know its origin.

Well, I hope he gets a good club and achieve the greatness he was destined for.

Well, glazers don give them what they want. Glazers is here to stay for life.

Glazer must stay in Jesus name.
Not guilty of the "original crime" he was charged with, which I guess was rape. He's likely still guilty of assault, although you can argue it's a case of two physically abusive people in a relationship, still doesn't absolve him of assault though.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 7:07pm On Aug 21, 2023
afrodoc2:


I always knew they would. Only a sale to the Qataris might have saved him. The Glazers don't have the stomach to face cancel culture and i am not sure even Greenwood could have survived hate that was about to be unleashed on him. What is more important now is for him to get a club in a quality league to revive his career.
2 seasons max and the stuff will calm down
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Theflint1(m): 7:10pm On Aug 21, 2023
raumdeuter:


So which career will take him? Will Walmart take him to be a cashier? Will Chase Bank take him as an intern, even the school which school will take him that these same mob you bowed to wont pick up an issue with

So will it be okay if Greenwood becomes a criminal or commits suicide?
Cancel culture is a truly stupid thing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:12pm On Aug 21, 2023
odizeey:

Does this club even look like who will sign anymore players?

We should get ready for embarrassment this season.
Na wa
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:13pm On Aug 21, 2023
chrisley024:
the social media judiciary system. They seem to have the most power
Yeah. Social media sha.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:13pm On Aug 21, 2023
Theflint1:
Not guilty of the "original crime" he was charged with, which I guess was rape. He's likely still guilty of assault, although you can argue it's a case of two physically abusive people in a relationship, still doesn't absolve him of assault though.

Where did you see original crime?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donjazzet: 7:14pm On Aug 21, 2023
akwesenana:

This is unrelated, but I'll like to know what your opinion is on how cases like this should be settled when the accuser is found to be indeed innocent. Example the Benjamin Mendy case. smiley

Well, talking about the courts in this case. Sometimes a court's declaration of "not guilty" might not necessarily mean that the offense wasn't committed but that rather, there wasn't any sufficient evidence. I mean we in Nigeria that suffer from a corrupt and weak judicial system can certainly understand this statement I just made.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence but for the courts, it definitely is. No evidence means no case.
We've seen movies where mob bosses who were guilty as hell were released and declared not guilty after those mob bosses might have killed the key witness(es).

Now, this rings more true for rape cases which are historically more difficult to prove, most especially if the both parties have a prior or existing acquaintance, now factor in where the accused is far more wealthy and you tend to have an imbalance of justice.

Anyways, having stated these factors, if one is definitely innocent but has been accused wrongly (something less common than the actual recurrences of rape), then the false accuser should be punished and made to pay damages.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:14pm On Aug 21, 2023
nitrogen:
Everybody saying BS. There is no way he would have stayed. Man Utd is a public company with shares traded in New York. You think shareholders won’t react to him staying or leaving? Yes, Americans are strong willed and sometimes don’t care about these things, but you have forgotten that the woke culture in the west is across board.

Greenwood fuvked up, but then the girl was an idiot. Why did she go online to post videos and pictures when the issue could have been resolved internally? Stup1d child! Even if found guilty, just negotiate a compensation and move on (without public attention). Now their lives are messed up. Very few clubs will want to have anything to do with Greenwood. He should just go and focus on his education and get a career in an unrelated field.
LMAO looks like this cancel culture thing is for only football abi? If it was another career, nothing would have happened?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:20pm On Aug 21, 2023
🚨🚨🌕| Roma are one of a number of Italian clubs who would consider signing Mason Greenwood from #mufc. [@talkSPORT]

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donjazzet: 7:26pm On Aug 21, 2023
ChristineC:


I said these guys don't really care about domestic abuse or nonsense, all they care about is cancel. I know a lot of these staunch fanatics first hand and I avoid them with every fibre in me.
a few who join them are not bad people, they just shape their life on social media, lack basic intelligence and believe they are doing something good.
in this short period there has been accusations against Mendy, Partey, Greenwood and Sigurdsson.
I can bet that a lot of fans don't even know of the last name on the list and there's a reason for that. guess what, he's was even pedo related but the media looked right.
look at someone with a freaking cat, they pushed to cancel him anyways. it's absurd.

This is an extremely shallow and careless way to speak, I'm sorry to say.
It might shock you to know that people do care about right and wrong, about individual human rights not being violated. People care about the rights of minorities, and indeed women who till today are persecuted around the world on the basis of their gender. From child brides, to restriction of rights and freedoms, to domestic abuse.

Ohhh, I'm sorry that social justice to you is sooo offensive and unthinkable, but welcome to the modern world where people care about fairness and justice.

It's always we Nigerians who do the most! Who align with injustices despite being right under the heels of it in our society. We lament what our politicians do to us but we ourselves somehow outmatch them in being as intolerable and prejudicial to people different from us.
Shame on you my man. No offence.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by akwesenana: 7:28pm On Aug 21, 2023
donjazzet:


Well, talking about the courts in this case. Sometimes a court's declaration of "not guilty" might not necessarily mean that the offense wasn't committed but that rather, there wasn't any sufficient evidence. I mean we in Nigeria that suffer from a corrupt and weak judicial system can certainly understand this statement I just made.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence but for the courts, it definitely is. No evidence means no case.
We've seen movies where mob bosses who were guilty as hell were released and declared not guilty after those mob bosses might have killed the key witness(es).

Now, this rings more true for rape cases which are historically more difficult to prove, most especially if the both parties have a prior or existing acquaintance, now factor in where the accused is far more wealthy and you tend to have an imbalance of justice.

Anyways, having stated these factors, if one is definitely innocent but has been accused wrongly (something less common than the actual recurrences of rape), then the false accuser should be punished and made to pay damages.
What do you mean by the bolded?

Do you mean that Mendy was guilty of the charges against him but lack of sufficient evidence was what made him walk free?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Englishisamust: 7:30pm On Aug 21, 2023
Donjazzy!!! grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:32pm On Aug 21, 2023
donjazzet:


This is an extremely shallow and careless way to speak, I'm sorry to say.
It might shock you to know that people do care about right and wrong, about individual human rights not being violated. People care about the rights of minorities, and indeed women who till today are persecuted around the world on the basis of their gender. From child brides, to restriction of rights and freedoms, to domestic abuse.

Ohhh, I'm sorry that social justice to you is sooo offensive and unthinkable, but welcome to the modern world where people care about fairness and justice.

It's always we Nigerians who do the most! Who align with injustices despite being right under the heels of it in our society. We lament what our politicians do to us but we ourselves somehow outmatch them in being as intolerable and prejudicial to people different from us.
Shame on you my man. No offence.
What do you think is enough punishment for this Greenwood's crime?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donjazzet: 7:41pm On Aug 21, 2023
akwesenana:

What do you mean by the bolded?

Do you mean that Mendy was guilty of the charges against him but lack of sufficient evidence was what made him walk free?

No I wasn't being specific about mendy's case (although it's distinctly possible).
That point was stating that the occurrence of women accusing men falsely is far less when compared to the rate of women actually being raped around the world.

For example, take your own Nigerian society as a sample. How many women are believed when they come out and say they were raped?? What is the response to that?

Tell me the truth, if you and 3 of your closest guys are together and a girlfriend of one of them tells you that your friend raped her or beat her physically, how will you react? Say the truth?

If a girl around you tells you that another guy raped her, how exactly will you react to it, will you act on it? Will you take her seriously or will you start finding ways to blame her? Will you start asking? You sef? "Why do dress like ashawo"? "Why don't you stay at home?" "No be you been gree to follow am?"
Just be honest about this. So you can see that in our own society, women are still seen as inferior to men and are on the lower side of justice.
So tell me why one wouldn't be empathetic to women's plight when they are clearly the underdog?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by akwesenana: 7:52pm On Aug 21, 2023
donjazzet:


No I wasn't being specific about mendy's case (although it's distinctly possible).
That point was stating that the occurrence of women accusing men falsely is far less when compared to the rate of women actually being raped around the world.

For example, take your own Nigerian society as a sample. How many women are believed when they come out and say they were raped?? What is the response to that?

Tell me the truth, if you and 3 of your closest guys are together and a girlfriend of one of them tells you that your friend raped her or beat her physically, how will you react? Say the truth?

If a girl around you tells you that another guy raped her, how exactly will you react to it, will you act on it? Will you take her seriously or will you start finding ways to blame her? Will you start asking? You sef? "Why do dress like ashawo"? "Why don't you stay at home?" "No be you been gree to follow am?"
Just be honest about this. So you can see that in our own society, women are still seen as inferior to men and are on the lower side of justice.
So tell me why one wouldn't be empathetic to women's plight when they are clearly the underdog?
If the girlfriend of my friend reports a rape incident to me, I'll hear from my friend, if possible in her presence.

My main wahala be say when them exonerate Benjamín Mendy, you no run come here come demand justice and retribution the way you come for Greenwood.
This is hypocrisy and na why people no dey find am hard to label you as a wokists General. smiley

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by WhoDeyHause: 7:54pm On Aug 21, 2023
eph12:

What do you think is enough punishment for this Greenwood's crime?
Death by electrocution. Then they should cook and share his burnt body as small chops for all the #Greenwoodmustdie crooners Maybe that's when they will rest.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by akwesenana: 7:55pm On Aug 21, 2023
The suppose don settle this matter at least 3 months after Greenwood was cleared of all charges. By now dust for don settle and he for don know as him life go be, whether to go school or to find team or to work for McDonald's.
The people running this club are grossly incompetent and it reflects in our daily dealings.

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