liveLongNprospa:


Good good.
Thanks for pointing it out.
Lets assume we have a population of 60-70m people who are employable, are you saying inside that number we have only 4% that is unemployed?

You are asking the wrong question again.

The right question is who is unemployed in the global context.

Shaytun:


You are asking the wrong question again.

The right question is who is unemployed in the global context.

Do you have an issue against answering simple questions?
You know it's not a big deal if you also say that definition doesn't apply to the Nigerian context

liveLongNprospa:


Do you have an issue against answering simple questions?
You know it's not a big deal if you also say that definition doesn't apply to the Nigerian context

Because we are not looking at unemployment again from a Nigerian perspective but from a global perspective.

If you ask a Nigerian Graduate that is still staying in his/her parent house posting cloth to sell on WhatsApp if he/she has a job she will tell you no, because to her employment means doing office work with her certificate and this person would have been classified as unemployed in the old methodology.

With the new methodology the Graduate will now be classified as being underemployed and not unemployed.

Which means Nigeria Underemployment rate will rise and Unemployment rate will fall.

afrodoc2:


Who born Lucio papa well to be there instead of Pasarella? If you remove Beckenbaeur, Baresi, Maldini then the next name is probably Pasarella and Figueroa is not far behind.

For Goalkeeper Fillol, Dida, Taffarel, Chilavert, Gilmar etc. Choosing any of the others over Dida is not a crime. For instance Chilavert who played in the same generation as Dida but was a few years older was obviously a better keeper.

Let me start with Dida.

Doctor, none of those keepers you mentioned is on Dida's level. Are you kidding me? E be like say you dey wear your rose-tinted nostalgic glasses egbon. Chilavert to Dida?! Chilavert's whole shtick was that he was very shouty and used to play freekick. Well boo hoo, so did Rogerio Ceni. Even Vincent Enyeama dey play Penalty.

Dida won 2 UCL and was a Balon Dor nominee. Dida was only dragging accolades with Buffon during their era. Nobody else.

The Lucio to Pasarella comparison is even more straightforward
Just look at all the things Lucio won. Compare to Passarella winning Interhouse sports in Argentina and then come back to me.

Big bro, I no fit ever agree with you on these two things. I'm sorry.

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Spy360:

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seankafor:
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Such is life.

nihilistjnr:


Let me start with Dida.

Doctor, none of those keepers you mentioned is on Dida's level. Are you kidding me? E be like say you dey wear your rose-tinted nostalgic glasses egbon. Chilavert to Dida?! Chilavert's whole shtick was that he was very shouty and used to play freekick. Well boo hoo, so did Rogerio Ceni. Even Vincent Enyeama dey play Penalty.

Dida won 2 UCL and was a Balon Dor nominee. Dida was only dragging accolades with Buffon during their era. Nobody else.

The Lucio to Pasarella comparison is even more straightforward
Just look at all the things Lucio won. Compare to Passarella winning Interhouse sports in Argentina and then come back to me.

Big bro, I no fit ever agree with you on these two things. I'm sorry.

You don't have to agree na. It is all opinion.

Let us start with Dida vs Chilavert.

Dida came 2nd once and 3rd once as IFFHS World Goalkeeper of the Year. Chilavert came 1st THREE times. Football historians and statisticians said he was the best keeper in the world three times but Dida never got that honour.

Dida never made the FIFA World Cup All-Star team. Chilavert did. It is only in team accolades that Dida has say. In terms individual accolades he has no mouth. Buffon, Cech, Kahn, Casillas were there during his time at AC Milan and they were better.

When football historians voted the best keepers of the whole 20th century (1901-2000) Chilavert placed No 6 and was the 1st South American keeper.
When the same football historians and statisticians voted for the best keepers only of the 1st decade of the 21th century (the era in which you said Dida was No 2 only to Buffon), Dida was No 6 behind Buffon, Casillas, Cech, VDS, Kahn.



Pasarella vs Lucio is even more straightforward.

Passarella was a World Cup winning captain. Widely regarded as possibly the best central defender in the world in the era between Beckenbauer and Baresi.

2nd highest scoring CB in football history.

IFFHS say he is on the South American All-time Team. Lucio is not there.

FIFA said he is one the 100 greatest footballers ever. World Soccer said he is one of the 100 greatest footballers ever.

Lucio? Well he has a bunch of Bundesliga Team of the Year accolades. He spent 11 years in Europe and didn't make a single UEFA team of the year.

So FIFA, World Soccer, IFFHS (Football historians and statisticians), and even Afrodoc1 to Afrodoc 1000 all rate Passarella higher than Lucio.

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RIP Windham Rotunda

Melvyn11:
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Shaytun:



2. Exactly!!! Your second point is what we should be debating on, and I echoed that yesterday when the report came out.

It stated that clearly in the report “ The rate of informal employment among the employed Nigerians was 93.5% in Q4 2022 and 92.6% in Q1 2023.

Below is a link to the report you can check it out

https://nigerianstat.gov.ng/download/1241365

Noted.

This shows the true scale of unemployment problem better than the 30+ percent we were declaring earlier

If Nigeria has 96% employment but with 93% of those 96% employed informally, we can hazard a broad guess that 80% of that 93% have no meaningful employment

So 0.8 X 0.93 X 0.96 = 71%

71% unemployment is roughly what we have in a colloquial way of speaking.

That's roughly the true scale of unemployment and the work we have to do in this country

Kholiwe:

Eish keep my name out of your madness.

shhhh. Don't take your panties off yet, you don't know who is behind this moniker, yet.

sod09:
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Una still enter women's sector want oppress them

Sarina go win sha. Women players no go vote for man. Even Spain players will vote Sarina

Segedinho:


Reread this time slowly b4 showcasing your dumbness

If 4% of 200m wch is 8m is unemployed then d remaining 192m is deemed employed na..


Abi,you use head knack pillar by mistake?

Employment denominator excludes kids and pensioners so 200m cannot be the denominator

Ibime:


Noted.

This shows the true scale of unemployment problem better than the 30+ percent we were declaring earlier

If Nigeria has 96% employment but with 93% of those 96% employed informally, we can hazard a broad guess that 80% of that 93% have no meaningful employment

So 0.8 X 0.93 X 0.96 = 71%

71% unemployment is roughly what we have in a colloquial way of speaking.

That's roughly the true scale of unemployment and the work we have to do in this country

In other words underemployment.

What we are dealing with is structural underemployment.

Consider this two scenario.

A graduate that is driving korope/Moruwa but is also looking for better job is described as employed but underemployed.

A graduate that is driving Korope/Moruwa but is not actively looking for other job is described as fully employed.

So if you are informally employed but you are not actively seeking for another job, that means you are fully employed and not underemployed.

So your percentage should fall more in the range f 55-60%

Ibime:


Employment denominator excludes kids and pensioners so 200m cannot be the denominator

You also have to be part of the labor force and actively seeking for job.

A Graduate in his 20’s that is not seeking for job is excluded from the Labour force even if he doesn’t have a job.

Nigeria labor force is around 70-80M

Ibime:


Noted.

This shows the true scale of unemployment problem better than the 30+ percent we were declaring earlier

If Nigeria has 96% employment but with 93% of those 96% employed informally, we can hazard a broad guess that 80% of that 93% have no meaningful employment

So 0.8 X 0.93 X 0.96 = 71%

71% unemployment is roughly what we have in a colloquial way of speaking.

That's roughly the true scale of unemployment and the work we have to do in this country

Damn this is really bleak! Gosh. Very depressing.

izzou:

I personally know people like this.
The hypocrisy is unmatched!

Ibime:


Employment denominator excludes kids and pensioners so 200m cannot be the denominator

I explained why i used 200m as the yardstick

donjazzet:



I personally know people like this.
The hypocrisy is unmatched!

Ibime:




Una still enter women's sector want oppress them

Sarina go win sha. Women players no go vote for man. Even Spain players will vote Sarina

Why man go they compete with woman for women’s job
It’s not right, they shouldn’t be considered at all no matter what

Shaytun:


These are the kind of fools you are guys are debating with here?

With all the free information that is available to this generation, we are still seeing this kind of foolish take.

I’m always amazed at people that post absolutely ridiculous take with Confidence. It boggles my mind how you can be so stupid with confidence.

You going about bandying APC stupid propaganda that Nigeria has an unemployment rate of 4.1% tells me all I need know.

afrodoc2:


You don't have to agree na. It is all opinion.

Let us start with Dida vs Chilavert.

Dida came 2nd once and 3rd once as IFFHS World Goalkeeper of the Year. Chilavert came 1st THREE times. Football historians and statisticians said he was the best keeper in the world three times but Dida never got that honour.

Dida never made the FIFA World Cup All-Star team. Chilavert did. It is only in team accolades that Dida has say. In terms individual accolades he has no mouth. Buffon, Cech, Kahn, Casillas were there during his time at AC Milan and they were better.

When football historians voted the best keepers of the whole 20th century (1901-2000) Chilavert placed No 6 and was the 1st South American keeper.
When the same football historians and statisticians voted for the best keepers only of the 1st decade of the 21th century (the era in which you said Dida was No 2 only to Buffon), Dida was No 6 behind Buffon, Casillas, Cech, VDS, Kahn.



Pasarella vs Lucio is even more straightforward.

Passarella was a World Cup winning captain. Widely regarded as possibly the best central defender in the world in the era between Beckenbauer and Baresi.

2nd highest scoring CB in football history.

IFFHS say he is on the South American All-time Team. Lucio is not there.

FIFA said he is one the 100 greatest footballers ever. World Soccer said he is one of the 100 greatest footballers ever.

Lucio? Well he has a bunch of Bundesliga Team of the Year accolades. He spent 11 years in Europe and didn't make a single UEFA team of the year.

So FIFA, World Soccer, IFFHS (Football historians and statisticians), and even Afrodoc1 to Afrodoc 1000 all rate Passarella higher than Lucio.

Iffhs?

What's that?

Egbon please stop it

Look at the list of their members here and laugh
https://www.iffhs.com/about

Ifhss is never credible. Its a joke.

There's no way you tell me that players who spent most of their careers playing interhouse sports competitions in South America are better players than actual multiplr UCL winners, WC winners, Confederations Cup winners etc.

You can't tell me that Argentina league in 1990s was on par let alone tougher than Serie A in the mid 2000s, or that Argentina League in 1970 was on par with Bundesliga or Serie A in Lucios days.


Lucio went to and scored in UCL final with Leverkusen, and won UCL as part of a treble with Inter. In-between he won a couple of Bundesliga titles, a World Cup, and 2 Confederations cups....and that's who you want to compare with Passarella that *checks notes* won NOTHING whilst playing 5 full seasons in the same Europe that Lucio dominated so thoroughly?

Because he won 2 world cups? In an era where world cup had only 16 teams? And one of those World Cups was the hand of God World Cup?

Chilavert won that joke Ifhss playing for Velez Sarfield in Argentina in 1998 over Fabian Barthez who won the world cup as a starter, was the ligue1 keeper of the year, was the FIFA World Cup keeper of the year, and that's the award you want us to take serious

My Big Brother in Christ who I love very much...NO. hell fücking NO.

sod09:

Why man go they compete with woman for women’s job
It’s not right, they shouldn’t be considered at all no matter what

Why shouldn't they be considered? So far they worked as coach and took their female team to a successful outing , then the men should be considered for the award.

Except u are saying male coaches should not be employed by female teams(both at the club and national level). That one is something that may not work cos I don't think there are many female coaches like that (At least going by what I saw in the recently concluded world cup)

Shaytun:


In other words underemployment.

What we are dealing with is structural underemployment.

Consider this two scenario.

A graduate that is driving korope/Moruwa but is also looking for better job is described as employed but underemployed.

A graduate that is driving Korope/Moruwa but is not actively looking for other job is described as fully employed.

So if you are informally employed but you are not actively seeking for another job, that means you are fully employed and not underemployed.

So your percentage should fall more in the range f 55-60%

You first said you agreed that Nigeria had an unemployment rate of 4.1%. Ib1me then breaks down what should otherwise be common sense, and now you're saying that true figures should be 55-60% .

If you had sense to extrapolate what it should or shouldn't be, you won't fall for stupid stat games from APC. Anybody with two brain cells to scratch together would have known that 4.1% thing was a joke, but you swallowed it.

BlueRayDick:


Why shouldn't they be considered? So far they worked as coach and took their female team to a successful outing , then the men should be considered for the award.

Except u are saying male coaches should not be employed by female teams(both at the club and national level). That one is something that may not work cos I don't think there are many female coaches like that (At least going by what I saw in the recently concluded world cup)

What I am saying is it's women football
The award should be women's irrespective of the number of female coaches around
Na man come chook eyes for where he no suppose be

nihilistjnr:


Iffhs?

What's that?

Egbon please stop it

Look at the list of their members here and laugh
https://www.iffhs.com/about

Ifhss is never credible. Its a joke.

There's no way you tell me that players who spent most of their careers playing interhouse sports competitions in South America are better players than actual multiplr UCL winners, WC winners, Confederations Cup winners etc.

You can't tell me that Argentina league in 1990s was on par let alone tougher than Serie A in the mid 2000s, or that Argentina League in 1970 was on par with Bundesliga or Serie A in Lucios days.


Lucio went to and scored in UCL final with Leverkusen, and won UCL as part of a treble with Inter. In-between he won a couple of Bundesliga titles, a World Cup, and 2 Confederations cups....and that's who you want to compare with Passarella that *checks notes* won NOTHING whilst playing 5 full seasons in the same Europe that Lucio dominated so thoroughly?

Because he won 2 world cups? In an era where world cup had only 16 teams? And one of those World Cups was the hand of God World Cup?

Chilavert won that joke Ifhss playing for Velez Sarfield in Argentina in 1998 over Fabian Barthez who won the world cup as a starter, was the ligue1 keeper of the year, was the FIFA World Cup keeper of the year, and that's the award you want us to take serious

My Big Brother in Christ who I love very much...NO. hell fücking NO.

You are focused on team victories. I am focused on individual honours. Where are the INDIVIDUAL honours that Lucio won. Imagine you are in a team winning titles and you never get an individual honour?

Not only IFFHS. FIFA and World Soccer and also agree with me. Lucio was a bandwagoner. Despite winning all those TEAM titles he didn't make a single UEFA Team of the Year. He was the Boateng of his time. Lucio dominated NOTHING. When Terry, Nesta, Cannavaro, Puyol dem were packing Team of the Year appearances Lucio was nowhere to be found.

Comparing Lucio to Passarella is sacrilegious. Passarella was the best defender in the world at a time. Lucio was never the best defender either in South America or Europe. He actually never made team of the year.

The Dida you said was 2nd only to Buffon was sitting at home when Buffon, Cech, Casillas, and co were receiving INDIVIDUAL awards from UEFA, IFFHS and other bodies.

You chose 2 bandwagoners. No individual accolades but hiding behind team accolades won by others.
Guti has more champions league titles and more league titles than Lampard but everybody knows who the better player was.

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Theflint1:
You first said you agreed that Nigeria had an unemployment rate of 4.1%. Ib1me then breaks down what should otherwise be common sense, and now you're saying that true figures should be 55-60% .

If you had sense to extrapolate what it should or shouldn't be, you won't fall for stupid stat games from APC. Anybody with two brain cells to scratch together would have known that 4.1% thing was a joke, but you swallowed it.

The guy is sound economically but acts like a "something else" when it involves BAT irrespective of how clear the argument is.

He went full blown to argue that dollar rise have no effect on the price of commodities in Nigeria just just because BATs stupidity gave credence to extreme dollar rise....

Ibime:




Una still enter women's sector want oppress them

Sarina go win sha. Women players no go vote for man. Even Spain players will vote Sarina

The award is not for women. It's for coaches In women football irrespective of gender. If a woman takes over Chelsea tomorrow and wins the treble she will be nominated for the men's category.

Shaytun:


In other words underemployment.

What we are dealing with is structural underemployment.

Consider this two scenario.

A graduate that is driving korope/Moruwa but is also looking for better job is described as employed but underemployed.

A graduate that is driving Korope/Moruwa but is not actively looking for other job is described as fully employed.

So if you are informally employed but you are not actively seeking for another job, that means you are fully employed and not underemployed.

So your percentage should fall more in the range f 55-60%

This is why our comparators against developed countries should not be taken at face value

I can argue for both of those scenarios being unemployed or both being employed
.
The benefit system in developed countries is what separates the employed from the unemployed

You essentially have to work over 16 hours a week in developed countries for you to earn a premium better than the benefit system can offer you

So if you have employment that pays less than you would get for 16 hours a week work at minimum wage, you will drop out of your job and claim unemployment benefits

So there is a defined line that separates employed from unemployed which the statisticians can reference against. Anyone working 1 hour per week is doing so voluntarily because they have options via the benefit system. That's why those who work few hours a week in USA constitute less than a percentage point of their labour force.

Now applied to Nigeria, I think a good metric to delineate employed from unemployed should be the minimum wage. If you earn less than minimum wage, you should be classed as unemployed so we can know the true nature of things.