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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 11:11am On Aug 25, 2023 |
liveLongNprospa: You are asking the wrong question again. The right question is who is unemployed in the global context. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 11:17am On Aug 25, 2023 |
Shaytun: Do you have an issue against answering simple questions? You know it's not a big deal if you also say that definition doesn't apply to the Nigerian context 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 11:27am On Aug 25, 2023 |
liveLongNprospa: Because we are not looking at unemployment again from a Nigerian perspective but from a global perspective. If you ask a Nigerian Graduate that is still staying in his/her parent house posting cloth to sell on WhatsApp if he/she has a job she will tell you no, because to her employment means doing office work with her certificate and this person would have been classified as unemployed in the old methodology. With the new methodology the Graduate will now be classified as being underemployed and not unemployed. Which means Nigeria Underemployment rate will rise and Unemployment rate will fall. 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 11:32am On Aug 25, 2023 |
afrodoc2: Let me start with Dida. Doctor, none of those keepers you mentioned is on Dida's level. Are you kidding me? E be like say you dey wear your rose-tinted nostalgic glasses egbon. Chilavert to Dida?! Chilavert's whole shtick was that he was very shouty and used to play freekick. Well boo hoo, so did Rogerio Ceni. Even Vincent Enyeama dey play Penalty. Dida won 2 UCL and was a Balon Dor nominee. Dida was only dragging accolades with Buffon during their era. Nobody else. The Lucio to Pasarella comparison is even more straightforward Just look at all the things Lucio won. Compare to Passarella winning Interhouse sports in Argentina and then come back to me. Big bro, I no fit ever agree with you on these two things. I'm sorry. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 11:48am On Aug 25, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 11:50am On Aug 25, 2023 |
Spy360:Jvole and Kendrick are your best bets...maybe drake too. The last two are just murder murder murder...and dissing of dead rival gang members. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 11:53am On Aug 25, 2023 |
seankafor:Kiss is old school. Just like Nas, you can't count them no more cos their wave is waned too low. It's the new cats with their laughable off the beat flows that are making the wave now. Raps evolved. Such is life. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 12:25pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
nihilistjnr: You don't have to agree na. It is all opinion. Let us start with Dida vs Chilavert. Dida came 2nd once and 3rd once as IFFHS World Goalkeeper of the Year. Chilavert came 1st THREE times. Football historians and statisticians said he was the best keeper in the world three times but Dida never got that honour. Dida never made the FIFA World Cup All-Star team. Chilavert did. It is only in team accolades that Dida has say. In terms individual accolades he has no mouth. Buffon, Cech, Kahn, Casillas were there during his time at AC Milan and they were better. When football historians voted the best keepers of the whole 20th century (1901-2000) Chilavert placed No 6 and was the 1st South American keeper. When the same football historians and statisticians voted for the best keepers only of the 1st decade of the 21th century (the era in which you said Dida was No 2 only to Buffon), Dida was No 6 behind Buffon, Casillas, Cech, VDS, Kahn. Pasarella vs Lucio is even more straightforward. Passarella was a World Cup winning captain. Widely regarded as possibly the best central defender in the world in the era between Beckenbauer and Baresi. 2nd highest scoring CB in football history. IFFHS say he is on the South American All-time Team. Lucio is not there. FIFA said he is one the 100 greatest footballers ever. World Soccer said he is one of the 100 greatest footballers ever. Lucio? Well he has a bunch of Bundesliga Team of the Year accolades. He spent 11 years in Europe and didn't make a single UEFA team of the year. So FIFA, World Soccer, IFFHS (Football historians and statisticians), and even Afrodoc1 to Afrodoc 1000 all rate Passarella higher than Lucio. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 12:32pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 12:45pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
RIP Windham Rotunda Melvyn11: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 12:57pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Shaytun: Noted. This shows the true scale of unemployment problem better than the 30+ percent we were declaring earlier If Nigeria has 96% employment but with 93% of those 96% employed informally, we can hazard a broad guess that 80% of that 93% have no meaningful employment So 0.8 X 0.93 X 0.96 = 71% 71% unemployment is roughly what we have in a colloquial way of speaking. That's roughly the true scale of unemployment and the work we have to do in this country 12 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ShaqFu: 12:57pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Kholiwe:shhhh. Don't take your panties off yet, you don't know who is behind this moniker, yet. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 1:00pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
sod09: Una still enter women's sector want oppress them Sarina go win sha. Women players no go vote for man. Even Spain players will vote Sarina 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 1:08pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Segedinho: Employment denominator excludes kids and pensioners so 200m cannot be the denominator |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 1:12pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Ibime: In other words underemployment. What we are dealing with is structural underemployment. Consider this two scenario. A graduate that is driving korope/Moruwa but is also looking for better job is described as employed but underemployed. A graduate that is driving Korope/Moruwa but is not actively looking for other job is described as fully employed. So if you are informally employed but you are not actively seeking for another job, that means you are fully employed and not underemployed. So your percentage should fall more in the range f 55-60% 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shaytun: 1:15pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Ibime: You also have to be part of the labor force and actively seeking for job. A Graduate in his 20’s that is not seeking for job is excluded from the Labour force even if he doesn’t have a job. Nigeria labor force is around 70-80M |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:19pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 1:21pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Ibime: Damn this is really bleak! Gosh. Very depressing. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 1:22pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 1:30pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Ibime:I explained why i used 200m as the yardstick |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:32pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 1:37pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Ibime:Why man go they compete with woman for women’s job It’s not right, they shouldn’t be considered at all no matter what |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:48pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Shaytun:You going about bandying APC stupid propaganda that Nigeria has an unemployment rate of 4.1% tells me all I need know. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 1:53pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
afrodoc2: Iffhs? What's that? Egbon please stop it Look at the list of their members here and laugh https://www.iffhs.com/about Ifhss is never credible. Its a joke. There's no way you tell me that players who spent most of their careers playing interhouse sports competitions in South America are better players than actual multiplr UCL winners, WC winners, Confederations Cup winners etc. You can't tell me that Argentina league in 1990s was on par let alone tougher than Serie A in the mid 2000s, or that Argentina League in 1970 was on par with Bundesliga or Serie A in Lucios days. Lucio went to and scored in UCL final with Leverkusen, and won UCL as part of a treble with Inter. In-between he won a couple of Bundesliga titles, a World Cup, and 2 Confederations cups....and that's who you want to compare with Passarella that *checks notes* won NOTHING whilst playing 5 full seasons in the same Europe that Lucio dominated so thoroughly? Because he won 2 world cups? In an era where world cup had only 16 teams? And one of those World Cups was the hand of God World Cup? Chilavert won that joke Ifhss playing for Velez Sarfield in Argentina in 1998 over Fabian Barthez who won the world cup as a starter, was the ligue1 keeper of the year, was the FIFA World Cup keeper of the year, and that's the award you want us to take serious My Big Brother in Christ who I love very much...NO. hell fücking NO. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:00pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
sod09: Why shouldn't they be considered? So far they worked as coach and took their female team to a successful outing , then the men should be considered for the award. Except u are saying male coaches should not be employed by female teams(both at the club and national level). That one is something that may not work cos I don't think there are many female coaches like that (At least going by what I saw in the recently concluded world cup) |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 2:00pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Shaytun:You first said you agreed that Nigeria had an unemployment rate of 4.1%. Ib1me then breaks down what should otherwise be common sense, and now you're saying that true figures should be 55-60% . If you had sense to extrapolate what it should or shouldn't be, you won't fall for stupid stat games from APC. Anybody with two brain cells to scratch together would have known that 4.1% thing was a joke, but you swallowed it. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 2:09pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:What I am saying is it's women football The award should be women's irrespective of the number of female coaches around Na man come chook eyes for where he no suppose be |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 2:12pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
nihilistjnr: You are focused on team victories. I am focused on individual honours. Where are the INDIVIDUAL honours that Lucio won. Imagine you are in a team winning titles and you never get an individual honour? Not only IFFHS. FIFA and World Soccer and also agree with me. Lucio was a bandwagoner. Despite winning all those TEAM titles he didn't make a single UEFA Team of the Year. He was the Boateng of his time. Lucio dominated NOTHING. When Terry, Nesta, Cannavaro, Puyol dem were packing Team of the Year appearances Lucio was nowhere to be found. Comparing Lucio to Passarella is sacrilegious. Passarella was the best defender in the world at a time. Lucio was never the best defender either in South America or Europe. He actually never made team of the year. The Dida you said was 2nd only to Buffon was sitting at home when Buffon, Cech, Casillas, and co were receiving INDIVIDUAL awards from UEFA, IFFHS and other bodies. You chose 2 bandwagoners. No individual accolades but hiding behind team accolades won by others. Guti has more champions league titles and more league titles than Lampard but everybody knows who the better player was. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Melvyn11: 2:12pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
WhoDeyHause:Very short o. The fiend entrance was my 2nd best after undertaker. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 2:15pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Theflint1:The guy is sound economically but acts like a "something else" when it involves BAT irrespective of how clear the argument is. He went full blown to argue that dollar rise have no effect on the price of commodities in Nigeria just just because BATs stupidity gave credence to extreme dollar rise.... 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Melvyn11: 2:15pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Ibime:The award is not for women. It's for coaches In women football irrespective of gender. If a woman takes over Chelsea tomorrow and wins the treble she will be nominated for the men's category. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 2:18pm On Aug 25, 2023 |
Shaytun: This is why our comparators against developed countries should not be taken at face value I can argue for both of those scenarios being unemployed or both being employed . The benefit system in developed countries is what separates the employed from the unemployed You essentially have to work over 16 hours a week in developed countries for you to earn a premium better than the benefit system can offer you So if you have employment that pays less than you would get for 16 hours a week work at minimum wage, you will drop out of your job and claim unemployment benefits So there is a defined line that separates employed from unemployed which the statisticians can reference against. Anyone working 1 hour per week is doing so voluntarily because they have options via the benefit system. That's why those who work few hours a week in USA constitute less than a percentage point of their labour force. Now applied to Nigeria, I think a good metric to delineate employed from unemployed should be the minimum wage. If you earn less than minimum wage, you should be classed as unemployed so we can know the true nature of things. 5 Likes |
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