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Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 3:18pm On Aug 24, 2023
Muslims are always quick to say that Muhammad never said anything without being inspired by Allah and that everything Muhammad said is still relevant till date:

Let us examine these words of Muhammad about the knowledge of things he claimed are only known only to Allah


Sahih al-Bukhari 1039
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (p.b.u.h) said, "Keys of the unseen knowledge are five which nobody knows but Allah . . . nobody knows what will happen tomorrow; nobody knows what is in the womb; nobody knows what he will gain tomorrow; nobody knows at what place he will die; and nobody knows when it will rain."

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 3:21pm On Aug 24, 2023
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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by FxMasterz: 11:23pm On Aug 24, 2023
advocatejare:
Muslims are always quick to say that Muhammad never said anything without being inspired by Allah and that everything Muhammad said is still relevant till date:

Let us examine these words of Muhammad about the knowledge of things he claimed are only known only to Allah


Anyone can know what's in the womb. All you need is a simple ultrasound. You can also know when it will rain. Most weather predictions today are so so accurate

Mohammed's words were only relevant for that age. Today, they have become obsolete. That's what happens when someone speaks without insipration. Inspired words are eternally relevant.

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by Nobody: 1:46am On Aug 25, 2023
The funniest part is when they never replycheesy

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by 43Ronin: 3:01am On Aug 25, 2023
Antichristian don jump and pass this shaky table with bottles of vawulence. grin especially as Maynman dey one corner with him trap

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 10:00am On Aug 25, 2023
FxMasterz:


Anyone can know what's in the womb. All you need is a simple ultrasound. You can also know when it will rain. Most weather predictions today are so so accurate

Mohammed's words were only relevant for that age. Today, they have become obsolete. That's what happens when someone speaks without insipration. Inspired words are eternally relevant.
He would just sit down with his followers and start telling them fables and they would assume that he was divinely inspired

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by AntiChristian: 11:36am On Aug 25, 2023
43Ronin:
Antichristian don jump and pass this shaky table with bottles of vawulence. grin especially as Maynman dey one corner with him trap

Five things were mentioned as "unseen" in the hadith:

1. The knowledge of the hour! Even Jesus your God does not know this (Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32), only the God of Jesus knows the hour!

2. The knowledge of the events of tomorrow! No one knows this in the absolute sense except Allah! (Also Ecclesiastes 8:7)
That means no soul can determine what it will get tomorrow from this world.

3. The Knowledge of your place of death also belongs to Allah. Or who knows where s/he will die?

4. Allah is the One Who "Knows that which is in the wombs!" He Knows the gender of fetus (male or female). He Knows whether this fetus will be a good person or a bad one, whether he will live happily or otherwise. The fact that doctors can now know the sex of the fetus while in the womb is not in contradiction with the verse: {"And (He) Knows that which in the wombs"} : The Knowledge of Allah regarding this fetus is anterior to the fetus' formation in its mother's womb. In fact, doctors can define the sex of the fetus only in the build up stage but not in the emanation one. The semen goes through two stages. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {Allâh knows what every female bears, and by how much the wombs fall short (of their time or number) or exceed. …} [13: 8].
So, Allah kept the knowledge of the semen emanation stage as part of the unseen. The evidence for this is the Hadith reported by al-Bukhari from Abdullah Ibn Umar that the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) said: Allah's Apostle said, "The keys of unseen are five which none knows but Allah: None knows what will happen tomorrow but Allah; none knows what is in the wombs (a male child or a female) but Allah; none knows when it will rain but Allah; none knows at what place one will die; none knows when the Hour will be established but Allah" .
So, what Allah kept in the unseen as far as the semen is concerned is the stage when the womb falls short of its time or number not the build up stage. This is what Ibn Katheer mentioned before modern medicine.

5. The knowledge of when it will rain also rests only with Allah! i.e. Allah is the Only One who can send down rain and who knows when it will be sent. It should be mentioned here the weather reporters might forecast when the rain is going to fall. But their forecast is founded on probabilities not on certainty.

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 3:11pm On Aug 25, 2023
AntiChristian:


4. In fact, doctors can define the sex of the fetus only in the build up stage but not in the emanation one. The semen goes through two stages.
Islamic lies as usual. Scientific information is all over the internet.
Now doctors can identify the sperm that is X or Y and use it to fertilize an egg and the desired gender will be gotten.

Science has left Allah behind in his ignorance!
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 3:13pm On Aug 25, 2023
preciousee17:
The funniest part is when they never replycheesy
They are looking all over internet for the lies written by some Muslims to deny the truth, but as usual they will be busted

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by AntiChristian: 4:46pm On Aug 25, 2023
advocatejare:

Islamic lies as usual. Scientific information is all over the internet.
Now doctors can identify the sperm that is X or Y and use it to fertilize an egg and the desired gender will be gotten.

Science has left Allah behind in his ignorance!

Is that all you can cut from number 4?

Why didn't science tell Jesus the hour?

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 5:23pm On Aug 25, 2023
AntiChristian:


Is that all you can cut from number 4?

Why didn't science tell Jesus the hour?

We are still discussing about knowing what’s in the womb, when we are done with that, we will go to the other ones
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by Nobody: 8:55pm On Aug 25, 2023
advocatejare:

We are still discussing about knowing what’s in the womb, when we are done with that, we will go to the other ones

Their only method of argument is by trying to divert to Christian matters smiley

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 9:50pm On Aug 25, 2023
preciousee17:


Their only method of argument is by trying to divert to Christian matters smiley
They learnt it from Muhammad, he stole stories from the Bible, and lied to them that all the Jewish prophets were his predecessors

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by Nobody: 10:00pm On Aug 25, 2023
advocatejare:

They learnt it from Muhammad, he stole stories from the Bible, and lied to them that all the Jewish prophets were his predecessors

That Mohammed guy, it's traumatizing to imagine everything the guy did and said — AND THESE SHEEPLE GO ON SUPPORTING OR PLAYING DUMB!

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by zoer(m): 12:06am On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:

They learnt it from Muhammad, he stole stories from the Bible, and lied to them that all the Jewish prophets were his predecessors

He should have been a Jew then, an Israelite.
If the Jewish prophets were his predecessors how comes his God is Allah n not yawah, Jehovah.

The Jewish prophets never identified with Allah except Mohammed...so how do we believe him now....

The way he got his revelation is different, his own heaven is different everything is just opposite.

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39am On Aug 26, 2023
zoer:

He should have been a Jew then, an Israelite.
If the Jewish prophets were his predecessors how comes his God is Allah n not yawah, Jehovah. The Jewish prophets never identified with Allah except Mohammed...so how do we believe him now.... The way he got his revelation is different, his own heaven is different everything is just opposite.

The true God promised to establish His covenant with Abraham and his descendants. Genesis 12:1-3
God specifically told Abraham that the covenant will be established with Isaac (Abraham's second son) not Ishmael! Genesis 17:18-21
There are two covenants to be established the first is with the sons of Jacob which is making them a nation of priests! Exodus 19:5-6
The second covenant to be established with the same nation will open the way for people of other nations to be blessed through the nation of priests. Genesis 12:3
Moses was the messenger of the first covenant that's why God gave him supernatural gifts to perform SIGNS as if he's a God in their midst! Exodus 7:1
Jesus of Nazareth is the messenger of the second covenant {Malachi 3:1} that's why God said he will also act like God in their midst! Isaiah 9:6
This has been foretold long ago when God promised the Israelites that another prophet will rise from among them just like Moses! Deuteronomy 18:18 compare to Act 3:22

In Islam we were made to believe that the prophet that's coming in the manner of Moses is muhammad but if so what is the significance of Muhammad since he's not an Israelite?
What are the miraculous SIGNS to prove that he is the one coming in the manner of Moses?

Well the Jews will prefer anyone that can come in replacement of Jesus because he didn't do what they wanted him to do which is leading them to destroy or intimidate all their enemies {John 6:15} whereas he was preaching love for everyone including enemies! Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27-28

They conspired against Jesus to have him killed so after centuries of waiting in vain for someone else they spitefully embraced Islam to console themselves but many of them know that Muhammad can't be the messenger that's coming in the manner of Moses! undecided

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by MightySparrow: 8:31am On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:

He would just sit down with his followers and start telling them fables and they would assume that he was divinely inspired


The falsephet is the the greatest of all times scammer.

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by AntiChristian: 9:10am On Aug 26, 2023
Allah is the One Who "Knows that which is in the wombs!" He Knows the gender of fetus (male or female). He Knows whether this fetus will be a good person or a bad one, whether he will live happily or otherwise. The fact that doctors can now know the sex of the fetus while in the womb is not in contradiction with the verse: {"And (He) Knows that which in the wombs"} : The Knowledge of Allah regarding this fetus is anterior to the fetus' formation in its mother's womb. In fact, doctors can define the sex of the fetus only in the build up stage but not in the emanation one. The semen goes through two stages. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {Allâh knows what every female bears, and by how much the wombs fall short (of their time or number) or exceed. …} [13: 8].
So, Allah kept the knowledge of the semen emanation stage as part of the unseen. The evidence for this is the Hadith reported by al-Bukhari from Abdullah Ibn Umar that the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) said: Allah's Apostle said, "The keys of unseen are five which none knows but Allah: None knows what will happen tomorrow but Allah; none knows what is in the wombs (a male child or a female) but Allah; none knows when it will rain but Allah; none knows at what place one will die; none knows when the Hour will be established but Allah" .
So, what Allah kept in the unseen as far as the semen is concerned is the stage when the womb falls short of its time or number not the build up stage. This is what Ibn Katheer mentioned before modern medicine.

advocatejare:

Islamic lies as usual. Scientific information is all over the internet.
Now doctors can identify the sperm that is X or Y and use it to fertilize an egg and the desired gender will be gotten.

Science has left Allah behind in his ignorance!
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 9:34am On Aug 26, 2023
AntiChristian:
Allah is the One Who "Knows that which is in the wombs!" He Knows the gender of fetus (male or female). He Knows whether this fetus will be a good person or a bad one, whether he will live happily or otherwise. The fact that doctors can now know the sex of the fetus while in the womb is not in contradiction with the verse: {"And (He) Knows that which in the wombs"} : The Knowledge of Allah regarding this fetus is anterior to the fetus' formation in its mother's womb. In fact, doctors can define the sex of the fetus only in the build up stage but not in the emanation one. The semen goes through two stages. Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {Allâh knows what every female bears, and by how much the wombs fall short (of their time or number) or exceed. …} [13: 8].
So, Allah kept the knowledge of the semen emanation stage as part of the unseen. The evidence for this is the Hadith reported by al-Bukhari from Abdullah Ibn Umar that the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) said: Allah's Apostle said, "The keys of unseen are five which none knows but Allah: None knows what will happen tomorrow but Allah; none knows what is in the wombs (a male child or a female) but Allah; none knows when it will rain but Allah; none knows at what place one will die; none knows when the Hour will be established but Allah" .
So, what Allah kept in the unseen as far as the semen is concerned is the stage when the womb falls short of its time or number not the build up stage. This is what Ibn Katheer mentioned before modern medicine.

Allah was exposed and being ignorant when Muhammad said “nobody knows what is in the womb” except Allah. Modern science using all sorts of machines and equipments and even video device can show us what is in the womb, from the babies, to their gender, to whether they have any abnormalities etc

Science has left Allah behind in his ignorance
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 9:43am On Aug 26, 2023
MightySparrow:



The falsephet is the the greatest of all time scammer.
It’s expected, he was the prophet of Al-Makireena, Allah the best of the deceivers!
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 9:45am On Aug 26, 2023
zoer:


He should have been a Jew then, an Israelite.
If the Jewish prophets were his predecessors how comes his God is Allah n not yawah, Jehovah.

The Jewish prophets never identified with Allah except Mohammed...so how do we believe him now....

The way he got his revelation is different, his own heaven is different everything is just opposite.
He is devil’s plan to corrupt the work of salvation by misleading people and twisting the real gospel
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 9:48am On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


The true God promised to establish His covenant with Abraham and his descendants. Genesis 12:1-3
God specifically told Abraham that the covenant will be established with Isaac (Abraham's second son) not Ishmael! Genesis 17:18-21
There are two covenants to be established the first is with the sons of Jacob which is making them a nation of priests! Exodus 19:5-6
The second covenant to be established with the same nation will open the way for people of other nations to be blessed through the nation of priests. Genesis 12:3
Moses was the messenger of the first covenant that's why God gave him supernatural gifts to perform SIGNS as if he's a God in their midst! Exodus 7:1
Jesus of Nazareth is the messenger of the second covenant {Malachi 3:1} that's why God said he will also act like God in their midst! Isaiah 9:6
This has been foretold long ago when God promised the Israelites that another prophet will rise from among them just like Moses! Deuteronomy 18:18 compare to Act 3:22

In Islam we were made to believe that the prophet that's coming in the manner of Moses is muhammad but if so what is the significance of Muhammad since he's not an Israelite?
What are the miraculous SIGNS to prove that he is the one coming in the manner of Moses?

Well the Jews will prefer anyone that can come in replacement of Jesus because he didn't do what they wanted him to do which is leading them to destroy or intimidate all their enemies {John 6:15} whereas he was preaching love for everyone including enemies! Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27-28

They conspired against Jesus to have him killed so after centuries of waiting in vain for someone else they spitefully embraced Islam to console themselves but many of them know that Muhammad can't be the messenger that's coming in the manner of Moses! undecided
This is the most sensible thing you have written since I know you on this platform.
Sense is coming to you gradually!

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by AntiChristian: 10:02am On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:

Allah was exposed and being ignorant when Muhammad said “nobody knows what is in the womb” except Allah. Modern science using all sorts of machines and equipments and even video device can show us what is in the womb, from the babies, to their gender, to whether they have any abnormalities etc

Science has left Allah behind in his ignorance

Na Jesus dey Ignorant from the Bible!

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 10:45am On Aug 26, 2023
AntiChristian:


Na Jesus dey Ignorant from the Bible!
Prove it, like we proved that of your ignorant Allah that you yourself agree to
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:50pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:

This is the most sensible thing you have written since I know you on this platform.
Sense is coming to you gradually!
Because it's in support of what you're trying to say shey?
Well i'm speaking for my own God not yours! smiley

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 1:14pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Because it's in support of what you're trying to say shey?
Well i'm speaking for my own God not yours! smiley
Ok
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:18pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:

Ok
Alright! wink

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 1:27pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Alright! wink
Are you ready to answer my questions now:

Are you guys wife abusers like Russel?

Do you people of JW cult subject your wives to mental torture like Russel founder of your cult did his wife?

Or you people have realized that Russel’s lifestyle is not worth emulating?

Are you JW cult members failing in the simple task of keeping your home together like Russel?

Are you following Jesus’ stance on divorce or you’re divorcing your wives like Russel your founder did?
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:36pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:

Are you ready to answer my questions now:
Are you guys wife abusers like Russel? Do you people of JW cult subject your wives to mental torture like Russel founder of your cult did his wife? Or you people have realized that Russel’s lifestyle is not worth emulating? Are you JW cult members failing in the simple task of keeping your home together like Russel?
Are you following Jesus’ stance on divorce or you’re divorcing your wives like Russel your founder did?

Why do you want to derail your own thread?

Ọmọ this is what you think about the God of Muslims so if you're interested in knowing who the founder of Christianity is just open another thread then we can discuss fully.

It's obvious you don't know the meaning of the word "FOUNDER" so let's start from there.

Until then, cheers! smiley

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 1:42pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Why do you want to derail your own thread?

Ọmọ this is what you think about the God of Muslims so if you're interested in knowing who the founder of Christianity is just open another thread then we can discuss fully.

It's obvious you don't know the meaning of the word "FOUNDER" so let's start from there.

Until then, cheers! smiley
You that know the meaning of founder: who is the founder of Jehovah Witnesses Organization?
Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:47pm On Aug 26, 2023
advocatejare:

You that know the meaning of founder: who is the founder of Jehovah Witnesses Organization?

Don't derail this thread.

Start another with the topic:

Who is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

Then i will teach you what the word FOUNDER means then both of us can figure out who founded the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Until then, cheers! smiley

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Re: Muhammad Claimed That Only Allah Knows Certain Things, It Turns Out To Be False by advocatejare(m): 1:48pm On Aug 26, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Don't derail this thread.

Start another with the topic:

Who is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

Then i will teach you what the word FOUNDER means then both of us can figure out who founded the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Until then, cheers! smiley
Is it your thread? Let me derail it, if you’re proud of your organization tell us who the founder is

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