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| 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 1:07pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
Who is this YHWH in the Bible that was given 32 virgin girls as his share? Division of the Plunder Numbers 31:40 31. So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as YHWH commanded Moses. 32. The plunder remaining from everything the fighting men had taken totaled 675,000 sheep and goats, 3372,000 cattle, 3461,000 donkeys, 35. and 32,000 virgin girls. 36. Half of the plunder was given to the fighting men. It totaled 337,500 sheep and goats, 37. of which 675 were the YHWH’s share; 38. 36,000 cattle, of which 72 were YHWH’s share; 39. 30,500 donkeys, of which 61 were YHWH’s share; 40. and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the YHWH’s share. 41. Moses gave all the YHWH’s share to Eleazar the priest, just as YHWH had directed him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XogaHpV5oUs?si=QW3K499ntf1AjY15 God Almighty is using the internet to expose the truth today 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by FxMasterz: 1:28pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Whenever they say the Lord's share, they're talking about the Lord's priests who are not permitted to work but to serve solely in the temple. As written in the scriptures you quoted, all of the Lord's share were delivered to Eleazar the son of Aaron the priest. Eleazer the priest would in turn divide everything amongst the priesthood. The 32 virgins can become wives to priests, maidservants or workers in the temple to draw water or serve in any other capacity in the temple. Your ignorance has been exposed again today. 2 Likes |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 1:35pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: You are the one who is very ignorant if not you would have read how they got the virgins from the Division of the Plunder. Numbers 31: 9Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. 10They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. 11After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, 12they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho. 13Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14But Moses was furious with all the generals and captainsa who had returned from the battle. 15“Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. 16“These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. 17So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. 18Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. 19And all of you who have killed anyone or touched a dead body must stay outside the camp for seven days. You must purify yourselves and your captives on the third and seventh days. 20Purify all your clothing, too, and everything made of leather, goat hair, or wood.” 21Then Eleazar the priest said to the men who were in the battle, “The LORD has given Moses this legal requirement: 22Anything made of gold, silver, bronze, iron, tin, or lead— 23that is, all metals that do not burn—must be passed through fire in order to be made ceremonially pure. These metal objects must then be further purified with the water of purification. But everything that burns must be purified by the water alone. 24On the seventh day you must wash your clothes and be purified. Then you may return to the camp.” Division of the Plunder 25And the LORD said to Moses, 26“You and Eleazar the priest and the family leaders of each tribe are to make a list of all the plunder taken in the battle, including the people and animals. 27Then divide the plunder into two parts, and give half to the men who fought the battle and half to the rest of the people. 28From the army’s portion, first give the LORD his share of the plunder—one of every 500 of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, and goats. 29Give this share of the army’s half to Eleazar the priest as an offering to the LORD. 30From the half that belongs to the people of Israel, take one of every fifty of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, goats, and other animals. Give this share to the Levites, who are in charge of maintaining the LORD’s Tabernacle.” 31So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses. 32The plunder remaining from everything the fighting men had taken totaled 675,000 sheep and goats, 3372,000 cattle, 3461,000 donkeys, 35and 32,000 virgin girls. 36Half of the plunder was given to the fighting men. It totaled 337,500 sheep and goats, 37of which 675 were the LORD’s share; 3836,000 cattle, of which 72 were the LORD’s share; 3930,500 donkeys, of which 61 were the LORD’s share; 40and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the LORD’s share. 41Moses gave all the LORD’s share to Eleazar the priest, just as the LORD had directed him. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 1:45pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz:  Making excuses for the lord, are we? The lord did not receives his share of the teenage and prepubescent girls kidnapped by the “chosen people” because they actually went to the priests. If “the lord’s” share actually means “the priests’ share”, why is it difficult to realize that “the lord” said actually means “the priests” said? This god is quickly regarded as nonexistent when it’s barbarity and depravity is shown. FxMasterz: Is Boko Haram allowed to use this excuse or is it reserved for the chosen savages? The girls of Chibok can become “wives” to imams, “maidservants” or “workers” in the mosque to draw water or serve in any other capacity in the mosque. No rape. Absolutely no sexual deviancy. All holy holy holy. 3 Likes |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by FxMasterz: 1:59pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
[quote author=MindHacker9009 post=125372627][/quote] By quoting long scriptures without presenting any logic to counter my position, you further expose your bias and your acute ignorance. 29Give this share of the army’s half to Eleazar the priest as an offering to the LORD. Whatever was the Lord's share was given to Eleazar the priest who in turn share among the priesthood as their payments for serving in the temple without doing any other work. Quoting long scriptures to disparage the Almighty God does not make you less a candidate of hell. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by FxMasterz: 2:01pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: Making excuses is different from correcting false narratives. I don't have the time for foolish talks. So, get off my mention. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 2:03pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: No narrative that can change what’s written in the myth of the Hebrews about their god. Probably the most repulsive creature in all of literature. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 2:04pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Almighty God did not write the Bible we have today it was written by men. So it's is important for us to filter out a true mercify Almighty God from the Bible out of all that men have written in it. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by FxMasterz: 2:05pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: Israel was a nation fighting for land settlement. God was their president and King who sided then in war as they became a nation. Is Boko Haram a nation fighting against another nation for settlement as a nation? Get off my mention. I hate foolishness. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by FxMasterz: 2:08pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: No one ever said the Bible was written by Almighty God. Your rants are irrelevant. Trying to filter out anything by bringing forward false narratives is devilish! |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 2:13pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Nothing devilish in exposing the evil that were done by men in the Bible and for you to be making excuses for such makes you the one who is very very devilish. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by Kobojunkie: 2:26pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz:The Priests couldn't wife women who were not of the blood of Jacob. Rather the girls would mostly have served as slaves or workers in their homes.  And yes, the Lord's portion— Holy gifts to God — were handed over by God to the High Priest. 7 But, Aaron, only you and your sons may serve as priests. You are the only ones who can go near the altar or behind the curtain into the Most Holy Place. I am giving you a gift—your service as a priest. Anyone else who tries to come too close must be killed.” |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 2:38pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Invading other people’s lands and committing genocide. FxMasterz: God being their king and president doesn’t excuse genocide. Becoming a nation doesn’t excuse genocide and rape. FxMasterz: Yes, they are a nation fighting against Nigeria for settlement as a nation. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by Kobojunkie: 3:01pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:YHWH was a dragon who ate virgins for lunch? WOW 
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| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by FxMasterz: 3:12pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: There was a precedence for the kids nvasion. They were commanded initially not to enter Midian. And no. Boko Haram is figuring to establish a religion. The Israelites were fighting for self existence. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by FxMasterz: 3:23pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: For every war israel fought, there was a just cause. The people were murderous, practised sodomy and even sacrificed their children to idols, making them pass walk through the fire alive to go meet their gods. The practice was abominable to God. He waited 500yrs for them to repent and desist from such abominations. When they remained adamant and were increasingly iniquitous, God had to replace them with another nation who would be more righteous. He then even warned Israel that if they do the same things that those nations did, they'll suffer the same fate. 500yrs before the event, this is what God told Abraham: Genesis 15:16 "After four generations your descendants will return here to this land, for the sins of the Amorites do not yet warrant their destruction.” This was the precedence for the wars of Canaan. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 4:14pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Then some hundreds of years later the Roman empire a pagan nation like the ones YHWH told the nation of Israel to replace, came to Israel to replace the Isrealites from Israel. This goes to show that victors of war wrote most of the Bible if not a True God will not replace a pagan nation with a righteous nation and later replace the same righteous nation with a pagan nation. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by FxMasterz: 4:38pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Which Roman nation replaced the Israelites? Did you go to school at all? The Israelites commuted the same abominations as those Amorites, and for that reason, God punished them by displacing them from their lands, and scattering them all over the world. However, for the sake of Abraham who was a righteous man, He promised that they would be regathered. He scattered and gathered them once and again. The final scattering happened in AD 70, and the final regathering happened in 1948. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 4:51pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Go and learn from the historical account of the Jewish Roman war in ad 70 you will know that all the Jews that were spared were taken away from Jerusalem as slaves or they were sold as slaves and Israel was occupied by the Romans. We are not sure today who the real Jews are? Africans too are claiming they are the real Jews. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by Dtruthspeaker: 5:10pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: The mad idiot clearly showed it but is it not expected that devils will blaspheme God? 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 5:14pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 5:55pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Still doesn’t excuse genocide. Especially one perpetrated by marauders. FxMasterz: Boko Haram isn’t trying to establish a religion any more than the chosen savages tried to establish their “one true god”. Boko Haram’s acquisition of Chibok virgins helps their fight for self existence. The Hebrews set a great example. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 5:59pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Bullshit. If the Romans expelled all the people of Judea or sold them into slavery, who were the people who later rebelled in 132? The Romans put down rebellions in all their provinces but didn’t perform mass murder or deportation. 1 Like |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 7:04pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: Not Bullshit. Watch the account of the Jewish Roman war for Jerusalem to know what they did to all the Jews in Jerusalem. Also in Masada all the Jews decided to jump off the clift rather than surrender to the Romans. Ask yourself where were the Jews before 1948 when a new nation of Israel was created and many Jews returned to the new Israel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF5j0URuTMs |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 8:13pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: The Jews who returned in 1948 were descendants of migrants who had no more links to Israel or converts to Judaism. It was Christian Zionism that is mostly responsible for the modern state of Israel along with European colonization. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/christian-zionism Christian support for Israel is not a recent development. Its politcal roots reach as far back to the 1880s, when a man named William Hechler formed a committee of Christian Zionists to help move Russian Jewish refugees to Palestine after a series of pogroms. In 1884, Hechler wrote a pamphlet called “The Restoration of Jews to Palestine According to the Prophets.” A few years later, he befriended Theodor Herzl after reading Herzl’s book The Jewish State, and joined Herzl to drum up support for Zionism. Hechler even arranged a meeting between Herzl and Kaiser Wilhelm II to discuss Herzl’s proposal to establish a Jewish state in Palestine. The two men remained close friends up until Herzl’s death in 1904. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 8:14pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
https://vridar.org/2014/04/30/the-myth-of-judean-exile-70-ce/ The population of Judea was not exiled at the conclusion of the war with Rome when the second temple was destroyed in 70 CE. Nor was it exiled after the second (Bar Kochba) revolt 132-135 CE. The generations following that revolt witnessed the “golden age” of Jewish culture in the Palestine (as it was then called) of Rabbi HaNasi, the legendary compiler of the Mishnah. In the seventh century an estimated 46,000 Muslim warriors swept through Judea and established liberal policies towards all monotheists. Arabs did not move in from the desert to take over the farmlands and become landowners. The local Jewish population even assisted the Muslims against their hated Byzantine Christian rulers. While the Jews suffered under the Christian rulers, no doubt with some converting to Christianity for their own well-being, many resisted as is evident from the growth in synagogue construction at this time. Under Muslim rule, however, Jews were not harassed as they were under the Christians, yet there appears to have been a decline in Jewish religious presence. There never was a mass exile of Jews from Judea/Palestine. At least there is no historical record of any such event. Believe me, for years I looked for it. In past years my religious teaching told me it had happened, but when I studied ancient history I had to admit I could not see it. Sometimes historian made vague generalized references to suggest something like it happened, but there was never any evidence cited and the evidence that was cited did not testify to wholesale exile. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 8:50pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: I would rather beleive European history about Jews than that of the muslim's account about the Jews. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 9:04pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: I know that already. However, don’t call it history when propaganda is an accurate word. You remind my of those who believe European “history” of bringing civilization to the “dark continent”. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 9:07pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: Prior to dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire, the population of the area comprising modern Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip was not exclusively Muslim. Under the empire's rule in the mid-16th century, there were no more than 10,000 Jews in Palestine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jews So what did the muslims do with the rest of the Jews that there were no more than 10,000 Jews left in Palestine prior to dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire? KnownUnknown: |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by KnownUnknown: 9:29pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: https://vridar.org/2014/04/30/the-myth-of-judean-exile-70-ce/ The Jewish population of the province is recorded by both Christian and Muslim sources as assisting the Muslim takeover and removal of the Byzantine rules in the seventh century CE. It is evident from the prima facie historical record that Jews remained the significant proportion of the population of Palestine right through the vicissitudes of wars and invasions. Over time the population no doubt followed the patterns of other populations throughout history: they generally adopted the religion of their rulers and intermarried with the various peoples who came through over the centuries with Arabs, Crusaders, Turks and others. |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by MindHacker9009(m): 9:53pm On Aug 26, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: Turkish sources recorded that 80% of the population of 600,000 was identified as Muslim, 10% as Christian Arab and 5–7% as Jewish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jews Muslim invaders do force people to become Muslims but the Romans allow freedom of religion. The Greek fire that kept muslims away from Turkey former Byzantine empire for around 600 years was a secret fire weapon from a man that fled from Syria from the advancing Muslims, if the Muslims have treated them better then there would have been no need to flee to the Christian Byzantines that you claimed treated them badly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T7X42GGkg4 KnownUnknown: |
| Re: 16,000 Virgin Girls, Of Whom 32 Were YHWH's Share: Numbers 31:40 by SIRTee15: 8:51am On Sep 04, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: U are a good person with sound moral conscience. That's why u disturbed by the genocides in the old testament, every good person should be disturbed. But the question is should God be disturbed? When we cut down trees, clear forest to build our fancy houses, do u give regard to the feelings of the plant world. When we slaughter animals at will, snuffing life out of them, do we care about the moral fibre of the animal kingdom. I'm not sure they are happy we humans slice their throat with a knife. But we do it anyway. Why? because we not bound by the moral code of conduct of the plant or animal world. How they feel about what we do to them is none of our business. We have our own rules for them and that's what we humans follow. Same for God, he's not human. He's not made of matter, doesn't occupy space and cannot be measured by any physical dimension known to us including time. Thus, he's not bound to our own rules of moral code of conduct. Death is a factor measured by time. It determines when we exit this world. For us, it's the end. Death to God simply means separation of soul from the body. It doesn't mean the person stop existing. The person just transited from one realm of existential reality to another. Simple. It's like moving someone from one house to another. How does that disturb God? Why should be troubled because a soul he created simply moved house. We simply judge the genocides of the old testament with human prism of our physical reality and dimensions. God exist outside of it, he doesn't need to obey or follow it. God has his own rules for humans that determine his action on us. |
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