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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Kobojunkie: 3:31am On Aug 28, 2023
bluefilm:
■ Do you really really need government policy to get sense?
The economy has remained in consistently bad shape for at least the last 40 years yet in that same period, the population has ballooned to over 200 and is slated to hit 300 million in about 25 years, and with the vast majority in abject poverty. It is past time Government policies are put in place to help curb that increase. undecided
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Princewill1(m): 3:32am On Aug 28, 2023
Nigeria's 200m population is projected to hit 400million by 2050 no thanks to dvmb masses we have here in the country and also by that period, Nigeria crude oil proceeds will reduce heavily owning to the massive usage of electric vehicles in EU and North America by then.

A period of massive population explosion coupled with lower GDP will mean hell on earth in Nigeria... hyper crime rates with excruciating hunger and poverty. It's just 27yrs away from now.

Anyday I made it into becoming a dollar muti- millionaire, i will jointly purchase one of the private islands in the Caribbean, Asia or the Pacific with a few other rich folks and relocate there permanently with my family.

It's stressful living in a country with so much dvmb and ignorant people. Citizens of a country that elected Buhari and Tinubu back to back are definitely not normal.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by InvertedHammer: 3:37am On Aug 28, 2023
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In Mathew 26:11, even Jesus acknowledged that the poor will always exist.
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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by TrainPark: 3:43am On Aug 28, 2023
ideamonster:
It's no surprise that things are getting harder every year in Nigeria. Even before the subsidy removal, the cost of everyday items are on the rise.

You may have noticed that the size of bread that sold for N200 about 5 years ago now goes for N1000. This means that families today need to allocate 5 times amount of money to bread than they used to five years ago. What even makes it harder is that every year since 2015, Nigeria has added a minimum of 7 million children every year. This is more than the size of singapore. It is worth nothing that 63 million Nigerians are alive today, who had not ben born when Muhammadu Buhari was elected in 2015. And with Nigeria's current fertility rate of 5.31 children per mother, each additional birth is creating an increase in the number of people who need to be fed.

In light of the following, several people are exploring the possibility that should Nigeria place limits on child size per family similar to such a policy enacted by the government of China in the late 1970s. In the special report exploring this topic below, population scientists, policy analysts, statisticians and everyday people ask the question: Is it time for Nigeria to start limiting children born into each family in this economy?

Do you agree? Do you support it? What alternatives to such a policy exist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9NqnySifX8

Children are individual responsibility of their parents not the government. What does the government provide to earn the right to control family decisions anyway?

The economy is fvcked up by the government not the citizens.

Population is not even a problem globally, declining global population is the main problem. That is why Canada, Germany etc are giving you guys visa so they can manage the economic impact pf declining population growth.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by BarrElChapo(m): 3:52am On Aug 28, 2023
BAT isn’t up to 6 months in office yet and this is the direction the country is slowly tilting towards.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by agos: 3:53am On Aug 28, 2023
U de ask again ,them no de tell person, na body go tell u
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Chetas81(m): 4:12am On Aug 28, 2023
BlessedOne259:


It will never be possible because it will be impossible to enforce it especially in Northern Nigeria
If Chinese citizen do it from 1981 to 2016 then nothing wrong with the Nigerian citizen to practice it , only religion is the obstacles
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Horus(m): 4:12am On Aug 28, 2023
ideamonster:


If we don't bring measures up, the country will just keep getting harder. Theres increasing population and decreasing food production and productivity. We need to urgently limit the number of mouths to be fed.

People should be able to see "the other side of the coin"; increasing population also mean that more farmers are born and more people can work in the agricultural sector, and the result is more food production

A country can have a very small population but cannot feed itself

On the other hand, a country can have a very large population but can have food self-sufficiency and can rely 100% on domestic
food production to meet its food needs.

Only lazy and narrow minded leaders will think about limiting the number of births in the population instead of finding solutions to create more wealth and more food for every citizens. This type of leaders should receive Capital Punishment

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by AbarisFather(m): 4:12am On Aug 28, 2023
YES
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Chetas81(m): 4:16am On Aug 28, 2023
TrainPark:


Children are individual responsibility of their parents not the government. What does the government provide to earn the right to control family decisions anyway?

The economy is fvcked up by the government not the citizens.

Population is not even a problem globally, declining global population is the main problem. That is why Canada, Germany etc are giving you guys visa so they can manage the economic impact pf declining population growth.

we're African citizen, quite fine, but asked India and Chinese, from 1981 to 2016 , only one and 2 child policy till now in India, till today
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Mosba: 4:18am On Aug 28, 2023
REASONS FOR TWO MANY CHILDREN

POVERTY
POLITICS
RELIGION

POVERTY:Powerty is actually why majority of Nigeria families are having so many children. Sounds contradictory? tell me what can a poor man have to give him joy other than that thunderous greetings of congratulations at the sound of vagitus?
POLITICS: Yes everything is done in the name of religion but politics gave birth to religion so I picked politics over religion. Igbos are mostly christians, do you notice how much they are breeding children since after the civil war? Tell hausas man to agree to 2 kids per couple and the first thing that would make him reject it is the feeling that you want to dominate them politically. In fact, the whole idea would be politicized and it will end in chaos.
RELIGION: Religion has been rigged to fit in for the purpose political class want it. For instance if Atiku lives by his religion tenets, he would not be spending millions digging into Tinubu's educational live, something strongly forbidden in Islam. "Laa ta ja zazu".

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by engrchykae(m): 4:18am On Aug 28, 2023
meum:
Some people no go gree😂
what about senators reducing their bogus allowances so that resources can go round?
What about tinubu cutting down on cost of governance so that money could go into jobs?
What about making the most out of our population as China is doing?
Must our blessings always turn to curse?
Must we have deposits of crude oil and import pms?
Must zamfara have gold and we are still poor?
Must we always choose the buharis and tinubus over gejs and Peter obis?
Must thunder keep firing Nigerians everytime?

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Chetas81(m): 4:21am On Aug 28, 2023
Horus:


People should be able to see "the other side of the coin"; increasing population also mean that more farmers are born and more people can work in the agricultural sector, and the result is more food production

A country can have a very small population but cannot feed itself

A country can have a very large population and be food self-sufficiency and rely 100% on domestic food production to meet its food needs.

Only lazy and narrow minded leaders will think about limiting the number of births in the population instead of finding solutions to create more wealth and more food for every citizens. This type of leaders should receive Capital Punishment
African citizen really have issues, based on their Mentality, Chinese did it from 1980 81 to 2016 but India continue their policy till today, African are naturally breeder's, see our continent, how youth running away from hardship without any tangible contribution
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Kobojunkie: 4:22am On Aug 28, 2023
Horus:
People should be able to see "the other side of the coin"; increasing population mean more farmers and more people to work in the agricultural sector, and the result is more food production A country can have a very small population but cannot feed itself
■ A country can have a very large population and be food self-sufficiency and rely 100% on domestic food production to meet its food needs.
■ Only lazy and narrow minded leaders will think about limiting the number of births in the population instead of finding solutions to create more wealth and more food for every citizens. This type of leaders should receive Capital Punishment
1. Nigerian population increased over 70 million over the last 20 years. Did that translate to more people overall working in the agricultural sector? Sadly, no. So why would you, at this point in time, believe that adding more mouths to feed to the already devastated system would cause that to happen? Wetin una dey smoke abeg! undecided

2. Nigeria is already one of the largest populations in the world... the largest black nation... yet it has no real plan for food sufficiency. So why do you offer this an argument against curbing population at this point? undecided

3. Create more wealth and more food out of thin air? undecided

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by enemyofprogress: 4:23am On Aug 28, 2023
Op dey there dey deceive yourself. Abokis and MURIC no go accept that can thing lai lai. You go hear dem say, it's unislamic



Mynd44 be like, op if na joke make you stop am o
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Chetas81(m): 4:25am On Aug 28, 2023
Princewill1:
Nigeria's 200m population is projected to hit 400million by 2050 no thanks to dvmb masses we have here in the country and also by that period, Nigeria crude oil proceeds will reduce heavily owning to the massive usage of electric vehicles in EU and North America.

A period of massive population explosion coupled with lower GDP will mean hell on earth in Nigeria... hyper crime rates with excruciating hunger and poverty. It's just 27yrs away from now.

Anyday I made it into becoming a dollar muti- millionaire, i will jointly purchase one of the private islands in the Caribbean, Asia or the Pacific with a few other rich folks and relocate there permanently with my family.

It's streeful living in a country with so much dvmb and ignorant people. Citizens of a country that elected Buhari and Tinubu are definitely not normal.
200 mm million, hhhhmmm which census data are you still using, till today
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Princeton92(m): 4:29am On Aug 28, 2023
YES OH, LIKE REALLY REALLY NECESSARY SHA.... CAUSE I DONT GET WHY YOU CAN'T EVEN MANAGE A CHILD BUT YOU THEN DECIDE TO BRING IN ONE JUST TO SUFFER IN THE NAME OF "CHILDREN ARE GIFTS FROM GOD".
THAT'S STUPID AND WICKED SAME TIME, SEE CHINA WHERE IT'S AN OFFENCE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAUSE OF POPULATION BUT OUR NORTHERN BROTHERS ARE BUSY BREWING CHILDREN EVERYWHERE THEY CAN WITH MULTIPLE WIVES.... WTF??!
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by tobstarizhia(m): 4:33am On Aug 28, 2023
YES. TWO CHILDREN MAXIMUM. AFTER THAT THE WOMAN AND MAN SHOULD BE STERILIZED

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Chetas81(m): 4:36am On Aug 28, 2023
BlessedOne259:


Some Northerners are not immunized. Their religion is not against BVN. Their religion allows them marry more than one wife and they believe they are expected to produce as many kids as possible. The country will be aflame if any government try to enforce it.

I think the only way it can be enforced is it Nigeria is split into different country.
Chinese citizen do this from 1981 to 2016, India continue to practice it, till today ,me and my expatriate talked about this last 5month inside car, how do you ended up thinking Nigerian should split into different countries to achieve something like this, hhhhmmm oga oooo
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Kobojunkie: 4:40am On Aug 28, 2023
tobstarizhia:
YES. TWO CHILDREN MAXIMUM. AFTER THAT THE WOMAN AND MAN SHOULD BE STERILIZED
Even one is too much for many 10s of millions who struggle to feed at least once each day. Every child born ought to be taxed to compensate the system for the burden posed. undecided
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by zedegit: 4:40am On Aug 28, 2023
ideamonster:
It's no surprise that things are getting harder every year in Nigeria. Even before the subsidy removal, the cost of everyday items are on the rise.

You may have noticed that the size of bread that sold for N200 about 5 years ago now goes for N1000. This means that families today need to allocate 5 times amount of money to bread than they used to five years ago. What even makes it harder is that every year since 2015, Nigeria has added a minimum of 7 million children every year. This is more than the size of singapore. It is worth nothing that 63 million Nigerians are alive today, who had not ben born when Muhammadu Buhari was elected in 2015. And with Nigeria's current fertility rate of 5.31 children per mother, each additional birth is creating an increase in the number of people who need to be fed.

In light of the following, several people are exploring the possibility that should Nigeria place limits on child size per family similar to such a policy enacted by the government of China in the late 1970s. In the special report exploring this topic below, population scientists, policy analysts, statisticians and everyday people ask the question: Is it time for Nigeria to start limiting children born into each family in this economy?

Do you agree? Do you support it? What alternatives to such a policy exist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9NqnySifX8

You're not different from Tinubu. Talking before thinking.

The primary responsibility of every government is security and they've clearly failed in that aspect.
If security is tackled, farmers will go into their farms without fear and food products will increase.

Another aspect is bad policies and corruption. Recently we read how bank manager sold forex to Dangote in the midst of dollar crisis and such things are swept under the carpet.

Another aspect is Monopoly. It's very bad. One man is putting the whole country in his pocket. Creating artificial scarcity of food and driving up prices to favour him. In China he wouldn't dare this nonsense.

Nigeria has to create value through diversification in practice not talks. Enough over dependence on oil. Besides I can't remember when last I bought kerosene at filling station. Has government abandoned kerosene refining to miscreants because the kerosene sold at black market is poor quality taking us to security issue and economic sabotage.




It's unfortunate.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Chetas81(m): 4:40am On Aug 28, 2023
Puss360:
Long overdue..... Very long over do...

But we are being hindered by two main reasons..

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1- RELIGION -
According to Christian Bible, Gen 1 Vs 28, "Be fruitful and multiply, Subdue the earth and conquer it" was God's word to man..
Again, Psam 127 vs 3-5 " Children are heritage from the lord....................... Blessed is the man who filled his quiver with them"

According to Islam Quran "Sura 4 (An-nisa) Ayah 3, talks about a man marrying more than one wife....

2- LEGISLATURE
The vast majority of our house of assembly are made of Islamic members..
So it is really hard to pass such a very delicate law....


But on a long run it will be beneficial to our economy
African citizen good in practice anything from religion, but they will find it difficult to practice something, not attached to religion, see African population, without anything to show for it , India and Chinese still practice this till this minute
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Horus(m): 4:41am On Aug 28, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. Nigerian population increased over 70 million over the last 20 years. Did that translate to more people overall working in the agricultural sector? Sadly, no. So why would you, at this point in time, believe that adding more mouths to feed to the already devastated system would cause that to happen? Wetin una dey smoke abeg! undecided

2. Nigeria is already one of the largest populations in the world... the largest black nation... yet it has no real plan for food sufficiency. So why do you offer this an argument against curbing population at this point? undecided

3. Create more wealth and more food out of thin air? undecided

Exactly the lazy way of thinking

1 - How do you explain that some countries have a very large population but have food self-sufficiency and rely 100%
on domestic food production?

2 - On the other hand, how do you explain that some countries have a very small population but cannot feed themselves?

Just realise that some leaders apply the right policies and some the wrong policies

Lazy and corrupt leaders who refuse to apply the right policies for the population should be executed by firing squad
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by tolue42(m): 4:43am On Aug 28, 2023
lordprogress:
Misplaced priority is china and the u.s whose population is far bigger than ours but are living way better than us.
Don't just try to blame poverty on population because it is null and void from the onset.

This is the reason Nigeria will never grow, you people dont reason logically, why did china limit giving birth to just 1 child in the past?

See, a country needs to add population ( giving birth) with her exact economy or the country's earnings just like the US and china.

Just like a family structure, if I'm earning 100k per month then I shouldn't have more than just 1 child, if a colleague of mine who earn that same 100k have 5 children who do you think poverty will affect more

That is exactly how it is when it comes to a whole country.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Pwettylinda(f): 4:44am On Aug 28, 2023
Start from the North

Dem dey born like rats for there grin
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Chetas81(m): 4:45am On Aug 28, 2023
InvertedHammer:
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In Mathew 26:11, even Jesus acknowledged that the poor will always exist.
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The enemies that wrote the Bible should come and explain, this book was present to you by the British colony, how many British indigenous people poor like African citizen especially black African
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by tolue42(m): 4:45am On Aug 28, 2023
Incognito403:

Is population the cause of poverty?

CAPITAL YES!
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Gerrard59(m): 4:46am On Aug 28, 2023
Just to let folks understand the concept behind reducing birth rates.

For Nigeria - a heterogeneous country - to dictate how many children a family should have is impossible. The heterogeneousness goes beyond religion, but it is also culture. Most respondents tend to mention the Islamic North but forget that some Igbo families have many children simply because there is a search for a male child. That is not religious but cultural, even for an ethnic group with one of the country's highest attainment of Western education.

To reduce birth rates is simple: ensure Nigeria becomes rich. Countries with previously high birth rates saw them plummet because they got richer. Malaysia is an example. The birth rate has dropped significantly compared to when she was poor. Religiously, though, it is pretty high when compared to Chinese Malays or Indian Malays who are not Muslim as ethnic Malays. Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, also experiences a gradual drop in birth rates. The most striking examples are the UAE and Qatar. Their birth rates have dropped rapidly, again, because they got wealthier. So, a reduction in the birth rate is made possible by a growing economy. Couples would want fewer children because they have more money, which leads to time for other activities.

China is an outlier because it is a homogenous country with a one-party system. So, adopting the Chinese model is impossible. Even her East Asian neighbours - Taiwan, Japan and South Korea - did not adopt such a model, but all suffer from low birth rates, with South Korea having the worst birth rate globally at 0.8 TFR per woman. The only country that tried the Chinese model was Singapore, and that worked mostly with the Chinese ethnic group; the majority, as Singaporean Malays and Indians, did not adopt it wholeheartedly. Singapore, too, just like Mainland China, has a one-party system, at least during her nascent years.

Prosperity begets low birth rates. Culturally, some regions would still have more children, but not as many as today.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Chetas81(m): 4:47am On Aug 28, 2023
tolue42:


This is the reason Nigeria will never grow, you people dont reason logically, why did china limit giving birth to just 1 child in the past?

See, a country needs to add population ( giving birth) with her exact economy or the country's earnings just like the US and china.

Just like a family structure, if I'm earning 100k per month then I shouldn't have more than just 1 child, if a colleague of mine who earn that same 100k have 5 children who do you think poverty will affect more

That is exactly how it is when it comes to a whole country.
black African citizen have issues with advance reason
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by tolue42(m): 4:53am On Aug 28, 2023
Chetas81:
black African citizen have issues with advance reason

It always makes me feel bad deeply I swear. That is why Africa is not growing. We want our countries to be developed but we don't want to drop the old way we're doing things.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by TOPCRUISE(m): 5:04am On Aug 28, 2023
Did Nigeria plan for children born in this economy. The people in government only plan for their own children as how to pass power to them. They dont plan for their people's children. The country's debt is still on the increase.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by thesicilian: 5:04am On Aug 28, 2023
lordprogress:
Misplaced priority is china and the u.s whose population is far bigger than ours but are living way better than us.
Don't just try to blame poverty on population because it is null and void from the onset.
Nigerians are funny people, I tell you. Instead of thinking of innovative solutions to jumpstart the economy and make their lives more prosperous, they're thinking of ways to adapt to the poverty in the land. As if our problem is caused by overpopulation!

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