garfield1:


But csu said he was their student

Certificate forgery nko. That criminal needs to refund all the illigal monies received from Lagos cofer as an illegitimate governor too.

garfield1:


You are being mischievous nonetheless

Sorry?

What is bringing such uncultured talk from you?

garfield1:


Atiku submission is foolish and stupid,always shifting the goal post like in 2019.he originally claimed that buhari didn't submit his ssce which is compulsory.all of a sudden,he claimed buhari forged ssce and later that he never attended sec sch.let him prove that tinubu bsc fake as he alleged,that's all

Shifting goal post or not does not stop the need to investigate deeper when there are grounds for such.

Whatever AA is setting out to prove, that is his concern. Most people are interested in knowing the background of the President. People have been gaining admission into Universities with forged/questionable documents for a very long time.

garfield1:


But I also told you that the supreme court has departed from that degi ruling.they made this clear in edevbie vs sheriff 2022.why all these back and forth na?

Concerning inconsistencies and discrepancies,tinubu submitted only his bsc and nothing else so atiku is bound by that.you cannot go below or above that.degi submitted 5 documents which had several discrepancies while tinubu submitted just one.the transcripts atiku is talking about was never submitted by tinubu so it is.
More on that discrepancies,the tribunal in consonance with recent apex court rulings ruled in favour of Ben kalu who had several names.rest this matter

My brother I just took time to go and read the case study referred and just discovered you're grandstanding and not the same with that of Tinubu at all. Mr. Edevbie was only interchanging his name but not use different names. Read below the extract from the judgement and clear doubt:
"According to Mr Edevbie, Mr Oborevwori used the names: Oborevwori, Sheriff, Francis and Orohwedor interchangeably in his certificates submitted to INEC in violation of the Nigerian constitution and the Electoral Act".
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/560876-just-in-supreme-court-affirms-sheriff-oborevwori-as-delta-pdp-governorship-candidate.html?tztc=1

Unlike Tinubu that used:
Bola Ahmed Tinubu
Bola Adekunle Tinubu

Used female and male

Date of birth 1952 and 1954

Certificate issuance date to be 22 and 27.

Are you telling me somebody entirely cannot bear one of these Tinubu's names?
Why is Tinubu now fidgetting that it was an error from the school clerk that committed the error? Tinubu should have brought the school to counter that claim at the tribunal.

goodnewscliff:
lets wait for sept 16. .. Dont be too sure

Igbo people and hope na 5 and 6...😂😂😂

They always pick date and always fail as usual, May 29 was their last hope , and it failed as usual

Now another waiting loading

😂😂😂

Una mumu too much .

garfield1:


He will not open up outside what the law allows

Then that is his cross. The questions will simply never go away & he will have to continue to deal with it as long as he chooses to be opaque about his background.

IfnobeGod20:

My brother I just took time to go and read the case study referred and just discovered you're grandstanding and not the same with that of Tinubu at all. Mr. Edevbie was only interchanging his name but not use different names. Read below the extract from the judgement and clear doubt:
"According to Mr Edevbie, Mr Oborevwori used the names: Oborevwori, Sheriff, Francis and Orohwedor interchangeably in his certificates submitted to INEC in violation of the Nigerian constitution and the Electoral Act".
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/560876-just-in-supreme-court-affirms-sheriff-oborevwori-as-delta-pdp-governorship-candidate.html?tztc=1

Unlike Tinubu that used:
Bola Ahmed Tinubu
Bola Adekunle Tinubu

Used female and male

Date of birth 1952 and 1954

Certificate issuance date to be 22 and 27.

Are you telling me somebody entirely cannot bear one of these Tinubu's names?
Why is Tinubu now fidgetting that it was an error from the school clerk that committed the error? Tinubu should have brought the school to counter that claim at the tribunal.

I seriously don't get some of these guys.

Obvious discrepancies & they are playing it off as is it is nothing.

I doubt BAT will lose his position over this, but I also don't see the big deal in finding out 'who he was' if he chooses to be opaque about his history.

As a matter of fact, AA's action is actually helping to deepen out democracy & create awareness that those who do not want the public to know their history should not aspire to lead the people.

In the good old days, before marriages where agreed upon, the elders will trace your origins to your forefathers.

IfnobeGod20:

My brother I just took time to go and read the case study referred and just discovered you're grandstanding and not the same with that of Tinubu at all. Mr. Edevbie was only interchanging his name but not use different names. Read below the extract from the judgement and clear doubt:
"According to Mr Edevbie, Mr Oborevwori used the names: Oborevwori, Sheriff, Francis and Orohwedor interchangeably in his certificates submitted to INEC in violation of the Nigerian constitution and the Electoral Act".
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/560876-just-in-supreme-court-affirms-sheriff-oborevwori-as-delta-pdp-governorship-candidate.html?tztc=1

Unlike Tinubu that used:
Bola Ahmed Tinubu
Bola Adekunle Tinubu

Used female and male

Date of birth 1952 and 1954

Certificate issuance date to be 22 and 27.

Are you telling me somebody entirely cannot bear one of these Tinubu's names?
Why is Tinubu now fidgetting that it was an error from the school clerk that committed the error? Tinubu should have brought the school to counter that claim at the tribunal.

Oyetola vs adeleke 2022,this is what the apex court said
It held that “There is no evidence that the institutions that awarded the 2nd respondents those educational qualifications denied awarding him those qualifications and issuing the certificates. As it is, without the awarding institutions disclaiming them, their authenticity and validity remain intact.”
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://thenationonlineng.net/oyetola-vs-adeleke-how-supreme-courtdecided-osun-poll-dispute/%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Court%2520of%2520Appeal%2520on,decision%2520and%2520upheld%2520Adeleke%27s%2520election.&ved=2ahUKEwiQ5-ne1v-AAxUpVEEAHZ9kDjcQFnoECA0QBQ&usg=AOvVaw3McHAscvRNvHdZlKByct1p

I have told you that tinubu did not submit any document which shows him as being a female.so why are you fabricating imaginary tales? In the absence of any institution disclaiming tinubu document,the case is dead.respevt yourself and handoff this matter

pquaver:


So a mistake on a document immediately turns it to fake? What is then is the meaning of errors or mistake? Do you know what that means?

I don't know what is wrong with your thinking faculty.
For the last time, the certificate tendered to INEC by your mandate thief did not come from CSU.
So there was no fictitious 'clerk' and TIEFNUBU forged the damn thing himself.

FY1, when you have an error in a legal document, you correct it immediately,
You do not slug it around for 45 years because it was not 'your fault'.

You live in an underdeveloped shytehole, so you can never understand that spelling mistakes on online templates constinutes 'phishing'.

All the best in your delusional thought processes.

ivandragon:



I seriously don't get some of these guys.

Obvious discrepancies & they are playing it off as is it is nothing.

I doubt BAT will lose his position over this, but I also don't see the big deal in finding out 'who he was' if he chooses to be opaque about his history.

As a matter of fact, AA's action is actually helping to deepen out democracy & create awareness that those who do not want the public to know their history should not aspire to lead the people.

In the good old days, before marriages where agreed upon, the elders will trace your origins to your forefathers.

Enablers of evil will always back their own. You've forgotten that devil also has supporters. Not a new thing. It's normal.

ivandragon:


Then that is his cross. The questions will simply never go away & he will have to continue to deal with it as long as he chooses to be opaque about his background.

No wahala.the koko is that he will rule for 8 years while haters keep asking foolish ques

garfield1:


They will not release anything sir apart from the BSC sir.tinubu is not an American public servant therefore there's no obligation to that.the qualification demanded is either ssce or equivalent,bsc,masters,PhD.tinubu has provided one and thats the end.

Very convenient of you, Weldon

garfield1:


So why the hullabaloo

Seems Atiku has a point to prove.
Probably oga ought to come out straight to shut up his distractors once and for all.

nedekid:

Seems Atiku has a point to prove.
Probably oga ought to come out straight to shut up his distractors once and for all.

Let him prove that the cert is fake na.he did so against buhari and now you still follow him.

Gani Fawehinmi was right. He did not go to court. He went straight to the police to ask that Tinubu be arrested. If he had been heeded. Engr Funsho Williams may still be alive but he was prevailed upon to let go

adekolaelect:
"Graduating is not Issue but submitted fake certificate" can you gradute without clearance from the school administration? Can the school administration clear you without without giving you certificate? Oga stop exposing yourself .

You are very naive.
Please, face the real issue of 'forgery and perjury'.
Graduation or no graduation cannot help a crook.
The bone of contention is the fact a FORGED CERTIFICATE WAS TENDERED BY A FOOL CLAIMING TO GRADUATE FROM A SCHOOL THAT HAS A DIFFERENT CERTIFICATE THAN THE ONE HE HAS.

garfield1:


That was not the case at the tribunal.the case at the tribunal was about his cert.stop shifting goal post

Atiku has change case in the US....

garfield1:


Oyetola vs adeleke 2022,this is what the apex court said
It held that “There is no evidence that the institutions that awarded the 2nd respondents those educational qualifications denied awarding him those qualifications and issuing the certificates. As it is, without the awarding institutions disclaiming them, their authenticity and validity remain intact.”
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://thenationonlineng.net/oyetola-vs-adeleke-how-supreme-courtdecided-osun-poll-dispute/%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Court%2520of%2520Appeal%2520on,decision%2520and%2520upheld%2520Adeleke%27s%2520election.&ved=2ahUKEwiQ5-ne1v-AAxUpVEEAHZ9kDjcQFnoECA0QBQ&usg=AOvVaw3McHAscvRNvHdZlKByct1p

I have told you that tinubu did not submit any document which shows him as being a female.so why are you fabricating imaginary tales? In the absence of any institution disclaiming tinubu document,the case is dead.respevt yourself and handoff this matter

You went second step ahead grandstanding again. The case at the court is not about certificate but the record in inside the certificates. No petitioner claim Tinubu doesn't have certificate or didn't attend CSU but they are particular about the content inside the certificates and you don't need any witness to detect an error in a certificate. If a man submit a certificate, it is expected that the sex therein should be male and not female. No judgement will request you to bring witness for that, except the respondent claim, it was an error from the issuing authority, then, he can bring witness to counter that.
It seems you're not aware that the petitioners submitted some documents from CSU which some people, like David Hundeyin requested from the CSU, which were tendered to aid their case. Just like the Guinean passport and citizenship.

trutharena:
This thread is in response to some misguided people that are saying Bola Tinubu did not graduated from Chicago state and those asking for his class mates.

Below is the proof that he actually did Attended Chicago State University.

1. The photo Album for Chicago State University graduate of 1979

2. A video of one of Tinubu classmate "Tunde Badejo" stating that he attended Chicago State University with Tinubu

3. The photo of Tunde Badejo in the class of 1979 yearbook of Chicago State University

Video



Photo Album
Link showing President Bola Tinubu and Tunde Badejo. From the photalbum, you can see Tunde Badejo and Tinubu in the link below. Check page 75 for Tinubu and page 57 for Tunde Badejo.

https://archive.org/details/emblem1__1980chic/page/74/mode/1up

Is Ahmed Bola Thubv and Ahmed Bola Tinubu the same thing?

lawani:
Gani Fawehinmi was right. He did not go to court. He went straight to the police to ask that Tinubu be arrested. If he had been heeded. Engr Funsho Williams may still be alive but he was prevailed upon to let go

God bless you!
Over 20 years later, the criminal walks free in a criminal den called Nigeria, while the useless NPF goes around kissing his filthy IRAGBIJI balls of DEHYDRATED AGBADOS!

IfnobeGod20:

You went second step ahead grandstanding again. The case at the court is not about certificate but the record in inside the certificates. No petitioner claim Tinubu doesn't have certificate or didn't attend CSU but they are particular about the content inside the certificates and you don't need any witness to detect an error in a certificate. If a man submit a certificate, it is expected that the sex therein should be male and not female. No judgement will request you to bring witness for that, except the respondent claim, it was an error from the issuing authority, then, he can bring witness to counter that.
It seems you're not aware that the petitioners submitted some documents from CSU which some people, like David Hundeyin requested from the CSU, which were tendered to aid their case. Just like the Guinean passport and citizenship.

This Court in Dantiye V A APC & Ors (SC/CV/627/2020) delivered on 30-102020 held per Augie JSC thusly – “Since this matter revolves around the WAEC results and alleged false information, the only way the facts in issue can be resolved is by evidence from WAEC to the effect that the 2nd defendant is not the owner of the result in dispute and that the result and certificates did not emanate from WAEC to the 2nd defendant in person. The plaintiff in proving his case failed to write to or visit the West African Examination Council to ascertain the true state of things but relied on mere assumptions and speculations. The plaintiff has the burden to establish by credible and cogent evidence that the result does not belong to the 2nd defendant. The burden of proof…. rest squarely on the plaintiff who is alleging false representation……It is the duty of the court to consider and act only on credible evidence and not on speculations or unfounded assumptions. Ebeleke & Ors (judgment in SC/CV/182/2021 of 16-4-2021) following its decision in Dantiye V APC restated the law thusly – “The 1st respondent did not elicit any evidence from WAEC stating that it did not issue those results or that the 2nd respondent did not sit for the said examination and did not obtain the grades in the subjects listed therein. The 1st respondent did not elicit evidence from Uboma Secondary School, Ikperejehe Etiti stating that the signature on exhibit A28 is not that of its principal or that it did not issue exhibit A28 or that the 2nd respondent did not sit for the said examination in that school or that the content of exhibit A28 are false in any respect. Without any of the above evidence, there is no evidential basis for the findings that the results are contradictory, not authentic and false because of the differences.”



I think the above kills the issue except something is driving you abnormally.in a matter of forgery,the burden rest squarely on atiku.he should have called CSU.the bsc tinubu submitted contains no gender.certs do not have provision for gender.if yours has,return it oh

garfield1:


No wahala.the koko is that he will rule for 8 years while haters keep asking foolish ques

Lol.

He can rule for a hundred years even while his immoral supporters keep hailing him for all the wrong reasons

ivandragon:


Lol.

He can rule for a hundred years even while his immoral supporters keep hailing him for all the wrong reasons

Don't worry,things will soon turn up for good in Nigeria

garfield1:


Let him prove that the cert is fake na.he did so against buhari and now you still follow him.

Bros, I am neutral jare. Just doing siddon look, watching the entertainment.
It is nothing personal to me.
As they say, make them de open their yash.
When atiku and Tinubu be best of paddies, de share moni together, them no desturb, neither them give me or you small taste.

garfield1:


Don't worry,things will soon turn up for good in Nigeria

That is every sane Nigerian's prayer

garfield1:


This Court in Dantiye V A APC & Ors (SC/CV/627/2020) delivered on 30-102020 held per Augie JSC thusly – “Since this matter revolves around the WAEC results and alleged false information, the only way the facts in issue can be resolved is by evidence from WAEC to the effect that the 2nd defendant is not the owner of the result in dispute and that the result and certificates did not emanate from WAEC to the 2nd defendant in person. The plaintiff in proving his case failed to write to or visit the West African Examination Council to ascertain the true state of things but relied on mere assumptions and speculations. The plaintiff has the burden to establish by credible and cogent evidence that the result does not belong to the 2nd defendant. The burden of proof…. rest squarely on the plaintiff who is alleging false representation……It is the duty of the court to consider and act only on credible evidence and not on speculations or unfounded assumptions. Ebeleke & Ors (judgment in SC/CV/182/2021 of 16-4-2021) following its decision in Dantiye V APC restated the law thusly – “The 1st respondent did not elicit any evidence from WAEC stating that it did not issue those results or that the 2nd respondent did not sit for the said examination and did not obtain the grades in the subjects listed therein. The 1st respondent did not elicit evidence from Uboma Secondary School, Ikperejehe Etiti stating that the signature on exhibit A28 is not that of its principal or that it did not issue exhibit A28 or that the 2nd respondent did not sit for the said examination in that school or that the content of exhibit A28 are false in any respect. Without any of the above evidence, there is no evidential basis for the findings that the results are contradictory, not authentic and false because of the differences.”



I think the above kills the issue except something is driving you abnormally.in a matter of forgery,the burden rest squarely on atiku.he should have called CSU.the bsc tinubu submitted contains no gender.certs do not have provision for gender.if yours has,return it oh

The rate you're quoting precedent out of context is alarming. Did any petitioner claim Tinubu is not the owner of any certificate? Go back and read the case you quoted, you only quoted it out if context. This one is on ownership but that of Atiku and LP is on error laden certificate. Stop grandstanding, you're not a lawyer and if you're one I can bet you you will surely lose this kind of case because you're quoting out of context.
Tinubu himself has owned up to error in his certificate but you his supporter still grandstanding to appear right. This he didn't notice, he should have called the school to authentic it at the tribunal that it was their error.

IfnobeGod20:

The rate you're quoting precedent out of context is alarming. Did any petitioner claim Tinubu is not the owner of any certificate? Go back and read the case you quoted, you only quoted it out if context. This one is on ownership but that of Atiku and LP is on error laden certificate. Stop grandstanding, you're not a lawyer and if you're one I can bet you you will surely lose this kind of case because you're quoting out of context.
Tinubu himself has own up to error in his certificate but you his supporter still grandstanding to appeal right. This he didn't notice, he should have called the school to authentic it at the tribunal that it was their error.

You are still not getting it.you are being boxed into a corner yet you are twisting the narratives.give it up man.if you are suing a case based errors, discrepancies,mistakes,the petitioner is the one to subpoena the school not the respondent.an accused is innocent until proven guilty.who has the burden of proof? Let me ask you,which error is bigger than different surnames? In the case of dantiye,he had different surnames yet he didn't call the issuing body and he won.is it tinubu that will lose? Adeleke own was even worse,did he call any issuing body? What is atiku implying if not forgery and in forgery,you must prove within reasonable doubt by calling the school.listen,if you have nothing to say,swerve

Bigkoko:
You don't understand the food HE Peter Obi and HE Atiku Abubakar cooked for Asiwaju...

PO has proved that the election is fraudulent, and not fit to stand. INEC failed to counter with witnesses. The judges are satisfied. But the crook CJN might want to rely on technicalities to foist the druggie on us all, so what else to do?

Enters HE Atiku Abubakar with a quest to completely disqualified Asiwaju from the race should a rerun judgement be given. Disqualification can only come from his false identity and fake results. That's what AA is proving right now.

Both ways, Asiwaju is fvcked.

Court would order a release. CSU will come true under oath. Asiwaju real identify would be unmasked and the end is grounds enough for a disqualification.

So based on a rerun judgement, only PO & AA would run!

Tinubu knows of this, he has accepted the first option of a rerun judgement, but what he didn't figure out was the Atiku Abubakar option of going this length to disqualify him!

Great strategists AA & PO......

Press Asiwaju neck until he drops our mandate!

cool i see the strategy now - well thought out atiku knows asuwaju more than anyone here on nairaland

that is why i am believing he knows what he is doing - he is a master strategist!!!

trutharena:


The school themselves admitted in their response to the subpoena that the issue with the error was probably due to clerk error. Go and read their response.

Even in the yearbook, the same school butchered the name of some Africans and misspelt it.

For some years my university listed me as a Ms rather than a Mr because someone in the registrar's office thought my name was that of a girl for whatsoever reason. I had it corrected after 2 years. I was indifferent to it and all it took was a simple email but I didn't bother to do so for 2 years.

My stock broker also made same mistake and sent me multiple cheques with Ms, I didn't bother to have it corrected till I was buying a property and wanted to submit my tax and financial reports.

Clerical errors are very rampant especially with cultures and people who don't share same culture. Some people have it corrected immediately and some like myself just ignore it till later.

garfield1:


You are still not getting it.you are being boxed into a corner yet you are twisting the narratives.give it up man.if you are suing a case based errors, discrepancies,mistakes,the petitioner is the one to subpoena the school not the respondent.an accused is innocent until proven guilty.who has the burden of proof? Let me ask you,which error is bigger than different surnames? In the case of dantiye,he had different surnames yet he didn't call the issuing body and he won.is it tinubu that will lose? Adeleke own was even worse,did he call any issuing body? What is atiku implying if not forgery and in forgery,you must prove within reasonable doubt by calling the school.listen,if you have nothing to say,swerve

Just I have said, you're not a lawyer, hence your level of understanding of issue in law is limited and that is why you're quoting precedence out of context. Cases may seems to look the same but approaches may differ. The petitioners have joyfully tendered at the tribunal documents gotten from the issuing authority and it has been seen that the one Tinubu submitted different and that is why Tinubu owned up that it was an error from CSU but you the supporter still dancing macabre dance to justify what is not. Just as I always say, you always think you know all and doesn't what to take responsibility for your error and quick to get angry when cornered. Your comment can only gel with people of average knowledge and not current at all or person that takes response hook line and sinker but not our class.

IfnobeGod20:

Just I have said, you're not a lawyer, hence your level of understanding of issue in law is limited and that is why you're quoting precedence out of context. Cases may seems to look the same but approaches may differ. The petitioners have joyfully tendered at the tribunal documents gotten from the issuing authority and it has been seen that the one Tinubu submitted different and that is why Tinubu owned up that it was an error from CSU but you the supporter still dancing macabre dance to justify what is not. Just as I always say, you always think you know all and doesn't what to take responsibility for your error and quick to get angry when cornered. Your comment can only gel with people of average knowledge and not current at all or person that takes response hook line and sinker but not our class.

Oga,you are the one misapprehending and misunderstanding issues.in all cases of forgery,false information, discrepancies etc,the issuing authority must come and testify according to the apex court in open court.you are a bad loser,a terrible one at that.you originally claimed tinubu should have called them to testify.after I bursted your lies as usual,you quickly changed and said atiku satisfied so.in Enugu,nysc testified.in akwa ibom,waec testified.in Ogun and Lagos,waec came to court at the instance of the oetitioners.in oyetola vs inec,the apex court clearly said the school must deny the documents and csu never denied it.mere mistakes or errors does not denote forgery.
Tinubu saying there was errors is an afterthought and it was never at the tribunal but in the u.s court and has no basis on the tribunal judgment.besides the school has owned to the errors.until atiku gets the school to disown the certificate,he has failed.him and obi will keep failing boy
Boy,atiku and obi has lost this