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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by popizaino(m): 3:30pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae: Let's leave Niger 🇳🇪 for now. By virtue of your moniker it seems you come from Enugu. Now a quick question for you. Is Britain 🇬🇧 still mining your coal? If No .......Then how come Enugu state isn't the beacon of development on the continent? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:32pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
raumdeuter:The idea is to have symbiosis not parasitism. Niger I am sure will pull out but first French diplomatic missions should leave the country. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:37pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
A001:Africa is still suffering from the effects of Western colonisation. Africa for example should be a single nation state as being proposed by Julius Malema. But we were shredded into bits of mostly landlocked pieces just so that those Western countries can still maintain their share in Africa. Look at Europe, one economy, no visas. Look at USA, look at Russia, look at China. Africa should be a single economic (at least) entity. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 3:39pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae: How much is Chinese paying you for your gold in Zamfara? Nigerien Govt stopped all uranium mining for 6 months when contract with the French company was to be renewed to force them to accept their terms. It's on Nigers terms. They can put it out to tender to any company You will just be talking Cho Cho Cho without any financial foundation Nigeria splits oil revenue 50:50 with extractors, same that applies worldwide, but I'm sure we would soon blame foreign oil companies for signing deal at market rate. Since Nigeria started giving oil blocs to indigenous operators some 20 years ago, how has life changed? We are finding that the foreign one have more Corporate social responsibility than the local ones. Meanwhile ask why your Governors and senators are mining their own gold in Zamfara, without remitting, you won't. It's to point fingers at those operating in line with International practices and laws with recourse to the home Government. Meanwhile your Wagner is mining what they want in several African countries with guns and coupists. You rather work with unscrupulous mafia people (Prigozhin) whose home country shoot him out the sky than companies that follow international law. You never know wetin dey worry you 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by olril17(m): 3:43pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
OasisX:Kagame the butcher of Rwanda is not doing so well though. Ultimate PR machine. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by olril17(m): 3:48pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:He is not. He’s the Putin of Africa. Kill and assassinate opponents and jailed them. Many of his opponents have also been declared missing. Only PR makes kagame looks good,he is just as terrible as the rest. There’s still palpable ethnic tensions as well in Rwanda but the biased western press don’t show us this. Kagame na the ultimate PR man. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:53pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Spy360: So you sell your crude/gold and get money in return Is that symbiosis or parasitism Burkina before them, Mali have they pulled out? Its been 2yrs since the anti France and CFA rhetorics what are they waiting for |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 3:55pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
popizaino: E choke! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 4:03pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Spy360:Everything boils down to the mental capacity of the average African. A number of the top countries today had also been colonized at one point or the other in their history, even including the Great Britain. A number of world powers today suffered serious calamities because of wars in the past. Examples are Germany, Japan. Yet citizens of these countries invested a lot of time, mental energy, effort to build their country again into destinations that many of us admire today. We can't keep blaming the colonizers now and then. Since Nigeria gained the so-called independence, what tangible feats have successive governments achieved? Is the country getting better or worse after independence? The problem of Africa is the relatively low IQ of most people on the continent. If Africans and Europeans switch places today, give both peoples 5 or 10 years. Africans would turn the present-day Europe into Africa and Europeans would transform the present-day Africa into Europe. Before you know it, Africans would damage places like Great Britain, Germany, France, and co we're admiring today. Those top countries will become an eye sore because of the poor maintenance culture of the average African. We see this play out now and then when the government builds public facilities that look attractive and pleasant at the beginning, and before you know it, Nigerians would start stealing some parts or amenities of these facilities and damage the infrastructure. Just give Lagosians a few months; that Lagos Blue Rail Line will wear a new look unless the government monitors people closely using CCTV systems and punish offenders that misuse the facility. Is the West also responsible for the poor maintenance culture of the average Nigerian? 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 4:08pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
I've always been of the opinion that we Africans have no excuse for not having been far ahead than we are right now. Other countries that were on the same footing with us have found different ways to forge ahead. Malaysia, Singapore, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, south Korea, Indonesia, Thailand etc. Every single one of these countries ranked below 70th on the wealthy nations scale as of the 50's and today they've all grown into manufacturing and tech hubs with different specialities. Or have used their natural resources proficiently. All are characterised by leaders with vision and minimal corruption in public service. Unlike Africa where the leaders have decided to be the most greedy and wicked leaders with no end in sight. But having highlighted this, I would indeed like to point out that the colonial powers are the architect of our problems. As in, the legacy and impact of colonialism and neocolonialism cannot be understated. The west cared about their interests to the detriment of African countries, they assassinated our leaders, they overworked our people for their commercial gains, they enlisted our fathers to fight their wars, they directly influenced our politics and leaders and looked away at the excesses of their stooges. Till today, they gladly encourage and store the embezzled wealth stolen by the leaders of our country, some of which they are directly responsible for their ascension to power. So no the west are not blameless, they actively encourage corruption of our leaders so far as it is in their interests. But the solution to this, is for we the people to revolt against these leaders, overcome their propaganda, not listen to their enablers who either earn from them or have other ulterior motives and come together to send them packing. Our last effort came a little bit short but it has set a precedence of what is possible. We must revolt against our leaders and elect leaders with vision across the board. Nothing like tribal politics or religious politics but competence and integrity. 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by popizaino(m): 4:15pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
A001: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Thank God you didn't add religion this time around. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 4:17pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
A001: To be honest, a lot of times we overstate the positive attributes of people within the west. They are as crooked and as bent as we are. Maintenance culture? Lol. Tell that to the mfs I saw vandalizing the walls at Jännowitzbrucke and Wansee train stations. The main difference between both societies is our understanding of crime and punishment and separation of appeal to emotion and appeal to logic. For example, here they don’t hear abeg or sentiments, they only know the rule of law and you can get anybody punished for breaking the law. The most dangerous thing Buhari did as a ruler was not just damaging the economy—it was his wanton disregard for the rule of law and refusal to obey court orders. I agree with you. Sometimes i watch the Christian Bale Sci-fi movie, Equilibrium and wonder if we’ll just be better off with a society where emotions are suppressed are logical outcomes determine the law |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 4:21pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
popizaino:It's actually the number one factor because of its influence on a person's mental capacity. That's why I talked about it in my earlier post on this issue. Any society without a healthy number of thinkers won't grow and develop. And usually, those thinkers are the freethinkers, some highly intelligent religious people (not the religious zombies), and some of those gay and lesbian people often prosecuted unjustly by ignorant Africans. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 4:23pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
monerozi5590: ![]() .....You gerrit. If late Yar'Adua didn’t reverse some critical policies of OBJ, our economy wouldn't be in terrible condition as it is now. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:30pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
The same countries wey colonize Asia colonized Africa Yet Asia dey develop Africa no dey develop and we turn around to blame the colonizers 60yrs later |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 4:31pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
popizaino: Different nigerian regions especially the Southern parts were doing very well before oil/gas were discovered. now every state dey wait 4 oil money, not just Enugu. maybe until we go back 2 true federalism/ or oil become useless...states will continue 2 wait for handout from FG. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 4:31pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Spy360: Is it symbiotic in terms of immigration? Is it symbiotic in terms of trade and investment? Heck, African countries can’t even open their borders to neighboring African countries for business and trade but it is the West that is your problem. Is it symbiotic in terms of travel? African countries can’t even be symbiotic when it comes to travel but the West is your problem. Is it Symbiotic in terms of educational exchange and investment? Is it symbiotic in terms of loan forgiveness, fiscal and debt sustainability? Is it symbiotic in terms of assistance with primary healthcare support? Is it symbiotic in terms of technology transfer? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 4:35pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Spy360: This is why I say you guys just put out stuff. Let me start first by asking you, what is the official currency of France? and who owns it? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by grandstar(m): 4:36pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Spy360: I totally disagree. The amount lodged is insuficient to defend the peg. When a currency comes under pressure and the central bank is determined to make sure it sticks to its value, it spends large amounts from its foreign reserves to achieve that. Why haven't any of the Francophone countries that have fractured dealings with France ditch the CFA? Make they try!. Their economies will implode, the currency they introduce will suffer a free fall. Between 2008 and 2009, Charles Soludo spent about $20bn to ensure the exchange rate remained at 120 despite the fact that the price of oil fell from $128 to $35 per barrel Sanusi spent about the same thing in 2012 trying to prevent the Naira losing value. When people blame Jonathan for the depreciation in the foreign reserves, it is the central bank governors that should take the blame and not GEJ. We just want to believe a narrative that these rich countries simply want to exploit Africa and keep these countries poor. Their policies in the last 3 decades prove otherwise. Keeping countries poor simply means emigrants from these very same countries will flood theirs. Also, the richer African countries become, the greater the quantity of goods they can export to them bringing greater prosperity to all. My narrative doesn't sound sweet. It's best to believe the IMF and World Bank only wish is to do the bidding of the West which is to impoverish poor countries and heap on them as much misery as possible. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 4:37pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 4:39pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
DeadPresidents:In a typical African country like Nigeria, we've such vandals in much higher numbers, and as you said, the rule of law isn't mostly regarded in Africa. What you just highlighted is the issue of having strong institutions in a country. That's the basic difference. Mostly in Africa, our institutions are weak, compared with those of the West. But we both know it's people that develop institutions. Who'll develop strong institutions in African countries? The highly intelligent people that will do so are leaving the continent in droves. The most intelligent members on this thread aren't in Africa, and only few of them are based in Nigeria. About the issue of appeal to emotions vs. appeal to logic, we both know highly intelligent people rarely act based on just emotions. It's logic, hard data, facts that serve as a guide most times for such people, and emotions are relied on sparingly. But religion has made most Africans so emotional. They believe so much in prayer and God's favor. A typical African will tell you it's God that develops a society, not humans. How do you expect a people with such a mentality to grow and develop? In reality, God is just a word, a mere word. Humans and other living things do all things and co-create our realities, not God. People need to realize this so they can keep our leaders at all levels on their toes, instead of wasting time on prayers that don't work. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 4:40pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
grandstar: Baba, don't even stress yourself because I assure you they won't read what you have written. I have asked him simple questions about what he raised. What is France's official currency and who owns the official currency France uses? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 4:41pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
BREAKING: Minister of Aviation, Festus Keyamo, takes key decisions during his tour of the Murtala Muhammed International Airport (MMIA) in Lagos State; - Nigeria Air project to be immediately put on hold. - Concession of Murtala Muhammad International Airport (MMIA), Lagos and Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport, Abuja to Corporacion American Airport Consortium would be on hold until further notice. - Closure of the old terminal of the airport on October 1st for total repair. - Directs foreign airlines to relocate to the new terminal latest by October 1 when the old terminal would be shut down for total rehabilitation. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 4:42pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
A001: I have always harped on this. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by grandstar(m): 4:42pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae: What does a desperately poor country like Niger want with uranium technology? It is far from the stage from developing such. It's the equivalent of giving a 3 year old a lorry to drive. What Niger needs now is massive foreign investments that will drive growth. What it needs are labour intensive factories to provide jobs for its people. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:45pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
grandstar: Some of these countries have claimed to be fighting France for over 2yrs now, Is the 2yrs not enough to ditch CFA? But when they steal finish, they will blame France for CFA Shebi we saw what happened to Mugabe, he ruined their country and claimed he was fighting the west, Idi Amin also claimed he was fighting the west All these anti West plotters, most of them have houses and loots stashed in western banks. They simply are looking for France to favour them Its like girls claiming Davido is a wh0re, he is a dog, I wonder the type of women who sleep with him. But the moment Davido say hi there, All of them will jump into the same Evil Davidos bed 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:57pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
Oasis003:What's this about abeg |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by popizaino(m): 4:59pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae: Are we going to elect Asians to rule us when we start to practice this your true federalism? Isn't it the same leaders we are not holding to a high standard that would be ruling us. Are we not going to still blame the West when this ones start showing their normal black man greed under this true federalism? Since the British has left their hands of Nigerian resources,are we better off? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 5:00pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
popizaino:Australia, China and some Western countries still depend on coal…. But Nigerians should blame the west. It’s funny that all anti-west use the same sentence… “they put their stooges in power to make us poor”. That’s the dumbest statement I’ve ever heard. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:02pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
obainojazz: You no know say Chime, Dapo Abiodun, TA Orji, Alao Akala, Obaseki, Matawalle Buhari Jonathan, Yar Adua Tinubu were voted by the west |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:10pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
grandstar: Uranium can generate electricity. How can any sane society grow her economy without constant power supply? The same niger republic with huge uranium deposits depend on 9aija 4 electricity!.. Do we even have constant power in 9aija. Africa need all the tech Transfer it can get...maybe if Gadafi had them, nato 4 think twice before they invaded Libya & killed Gaddafi. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 5:12pm On Aug 31, 2023 |
raumdeuter: Asia is generally a more homogeneous continent than Africa. Bundling up incompatible cultures and calling it one country is the bane of most African countries. Nigeria is going NOWHERE in its current state, and that's a best case scenario. Its more likely that the country disintegrates sometime in the near future after being pulled every which way by ethnic rivalry. And I do blame the colonisers for that. 6 Likes 1 Share |
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