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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:06am On Sep 01, 2023
afrodoc2:


During colonial times the West was definitely the primary driver of African underdevelopment, and it can be argued that the haphazard balkanization and union of disparate ethnic groups set the stage for the perpetuation of many of the problems faced today. The problem is that until time travel becomes a reality most of the damage done by the West can't be corrected. Most of the problems faced by Africa TODAY are caused by Africans, in particular African leaders, and trying to pin the problems we face mainly on the West shows extreme lack of accountability.


This is a reasonable and balanced view on the whole matter
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 6:44am On Sep 01, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Personally I think portable has mental illness but most people think it’s him being razz and ghetto . The fact that he amuses people and make them laugh is probably why he will continue to get shows.

If I was in the lawyers’ shoes, I will just sit down relax and enjoy the show .

I think so. That guy is not normal.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 6:45am On Sep 01, 2023
BlueRayDick:
I’ve been busy of late, but I still took my time to read through the whole “ blame the west vs Hold ur African leaders accountable “ discussion. People on both sides of the table made good points 👍

However , One thing that caught my attention is the fact that some of the people who want Africans to keep the west out of their mouth but instead hold their leaders accountable ; are actually people who were either against ENDSARS , were defending government during the ENDSARS and even blamed the youth for the fall out of the protests.


I didn’t just arrive at this conclusion, I actually put “SARS” in front of monikers and did local search 🔍

The Blackman don suffer sha and the sufferness is proudly sponsored by his fellow Blackman. If he decides to face his immediate oppressors who are citizens like him voted to be in charge of government , his fellow Blackman will introduce tribal sentiments , propaganda , political sentiments to defend the oppressors .

This is nothing but the truth and exactly the point I made yesterday and you people said I was looking for fight..

Many of the abroadians here who keep shouting here that our leaders are bad and we must hold them accountable and that we should not blame the west for anything wrong with Africa are exactly the same set of people who when they saw how the youths of this country were attempting to carry out a bloodless coup via the ballot and peacefully revolt decided to align with these same class of wicked leaders. So how again are we supposed to hold our leaders accountable when you yourself align with those wicked leaders and adamantly defend them?

Look at afrodoc talking about bad African leadership now, but he's the same person who said the Nigerian youths seeking a new leadership and a revamp of the political structure were zombies and brainless mobs, so what else are we talking about? Who is deceiving who? Should we talk about dayo who radically defends anything APC but at the same time says nigeria will never get better no matter what?

Last I checked, some of these abroadians talking about this west issues were those who repeatedly told us that no matter what we ever did, nigeria can never get better. Nigeria is doomed forever. I tell you you look at the mindset of some these abroadians and you see something evil in their outlook towards their countrymen here. None of them throughout yesterday attempted to acknowledge that yes, the colonizers did cause soo much extensive damage to Africa, they're eager to tell you to move on but not eager to highlight the extreme damage done by the colonizers, that's not balanced. Not one bit.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 6:56am On Sep 01, 2023
Eunoiaa:


How did you get banned?! 🤣🤣🤣

Wow. This is a first for me o.

grin

....me sef no know o.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:56am On Sep 01, 2023
BlueRayDick:
I’ve been busy of late, but I still took my time to read through the whole “ blame the west vs Hold ur African leaders accountable “ discussion. People on both sides of the table made good points 👍

However , One thing that caught my attention is the fact that some of the people who want Africans to keep the west out of their mouth but instead hold their leaders accountable ; are actually people who were either against ENDSARS , were defending government during the ENDSARS and even blamed the youth for the fall out of the protests.


I didn’t just arrive at this conclusion, I actually put “SARS” in front of monikers and did local search 🔍

The Blackman don suffer sha and the sufferness is proudly sponsored by his fellow Blackman. If he decides to face his immediate oppressors who are citizens like him voted to be in charge of government , his fellow Blackman will introduce tribal sentiments , propaganda , political sentiments to defend the oppressors .

Is Ibime part of the "some people"? grin

I can smell crude oil, roasted fish and plantain all over this post.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:01am On Sep 01, 2023
donjazzet:


This is nothing but the truth and exactly the point I made yesterday and you people said I was looking for fight..

Many of the abroadians here who keep shouting here that our leaders are bad and we must hold them accountable and that we should not blame the west for anything wrong with Africa are exactly the same set of people who when they saw how the youths of this country were attempting to carry out a bloodless coup via the ballot and peacefully revolt decided to align with these same class of wicked leaders. So how again are we supposed to hold our leaders accountable when you yourself align with those wicked leaders and adamantly defend them?

Look at afrodoc talking about bad African leadership now, but he's the same person who said the Nigerian youths seeking a new leadership and a revamp of the political structure were zombies and brainless mobs, so what else are we talking about? Who is deceiving who? Should we talk about dayo who radically defends anything APC but at the same time says nigeria will never get better no matter what?

Last I checked, some of these abroadians talking about this west issues were those who repeatedly told us that no matter what we ever did, nigeria can never get better. Nigeria is doomed forever. I tell you you look at the mindset of some these abroadians and you see something evil in their outlook towards their countrymen here. None of them throughout yesterday attempted to acknowledge that yes, the colonizers did cause soo much extensive damage to Africa, they're eager to tell you to move on but not eager to highlight the extreme damage done by the colonizers, that's not balanced. Not one bit.

This one no be abroadians vs naija-based residents matter . U sef, u were part of the people against ENDSARS .

U voted buhari twice and referred to urself as one of Buhari’s biggest supporters .


Rest Don J!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 7:11am On Sep 01, 2023
BlueRayDick:


This one no be abroadians vs naija-based residents matter . U sef u were part of the people who were against ENDSARS .

U voted buhari twice and referred to ursel as one of Buhari’s biggest supporters .


Rest Don J!


grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by donjazzet: 7:20am On Sep 01, 2023
BlueRayDick:


This one no be abroadians vs naija-based residents matter . U sef u were part of the people who were against ENDSARS .

U voted buhari twice and referred to urself as one of Buhari’s biggest supporters .
Rest Don J!

Well I can't help but notice that almost every single proponent of the "free the west" narrative, are those based there. Almost every single one of them, essentially giving the argument the shape of abroadian vs residents, most especially when you factor in that many of the same folks put a spanner in the wheels of revolution.

And then need I highlight that when I voted APC, the PDP were Indeed the oppressors and voting APC then was indeed partially revolutionary in its own way?? I will never understand this "you voted Buhari shtick". And no if I tell you to prove beyond words that I vehemently supported Buhari, you wouldn't and by support, I mean, lobby intensely, defend every policy like laride did, double down on their failure.
Because at this point, it's become a common red herring, to insert that in every argument I make.
Voting APC against the PDP was very justifiable many years ago, the problem is still doing the same after witnessing their monumental failure.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:29am On Sep 01, 2023
donjazzet:


Well I can't help but notice that almost every single proponent of the "free the west" narrative, are those based there. Almost every single one of them, essentially giving the argument the shape of abroadian vs residents, most especially when you factor in that many of the same folks put a spanner in the wheels of revolution.

And then need I highlight that when I voted APC, the PDP were Indeed the oppressors and voting APC then was indeed partially revolutionary in its own way?? I will never understand this "you voted Buhari shtick". And no if I tell you to prove beyond words that I vehemently supported Buhari, you wouldn't and by support, I mean, lobby intensely, defend every policy like laride did, double down on their failure.
Because at this point, it's become a common red herring, to insert that in every argument I make.
Voting APC against the PDP was very justifiable many years ago, the problem is still doing the same after witnessing their monumental failure.

2019 was not many years ago. U voted Buhari's APC after the colossal failure between 2015-2019

U are not in a position to be dissing people who did nothing but show online support for Buhari based on the conviction of people like u who are living in the system and "enjoyed" Buhari's administration. Those people are even better than u because they do not turn back to deny things they wrote with their hands and posted on nairaland; neither do they claim "it was many years ago"

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 7:35am On Sep 01, 2023
afrodoc2:


grin grin grin


🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 7:41am On Sep 01, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:49am On Sep 01, 2023
If a stranger connives with your brother to scam you, the problem is not the stranger, but your brother.

All the arguments about the West, and yet, no one has pointed where the West personally put us in poverty; It is still a Nigerian, Nigerien, Gabonese that was used.

Ibori was discharged and acquitted of all crimes, yet the same West jailed him and recovered monies on our behalf. It is even the same Ibori that APC apologists are sampling and celebrating on this thread. So, how is that a West problem?

The Docility of Nigerians is more of a problem than any other one we want to raise

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 7:50am On Sep 01, 2023
Africa's Longest Serving Presidents

Teodoro Obiang | Equatorial Guinea | 44 years (since 1979)

Paul Biya | Cameroon | 41 years (since 1982)

Yoweri Museveni | Uganda | 37 years (since 1986)

Isaias Afwerki | Eritrea | 30 years (since 1993)

Dennis Sassou | Congo | 26 yrs (1997)

Ismaïl Omar Guelleh | Djibouti | 24 years (since 1999)

Paul Kagame | Rwanda | 23 years (since 2000)

Faure Gnassingbe | Togo | 18 years (since 2005)
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olowunl01: 7:51am On Sep 01, 2023
BlueRayDick:


This one no be abroadians vs naija-based residents matter . U sef u were part of the people who were against ENDSARS .

U voted buhari twice and referred to urself as one of Buhari’s biggest supporters .


Rest Don J!


My chairman wetin dey sup? your post lately has some taint of vexation grin grin grin

My take on this matter is nobody can fix Africa or Nigeria but ourselves, before looking at the west - we should check ourself first; na we dey enable our greedy leaders. Change is happening, 2023
Obidients caused a change, but it seem they are so fixated on the final outcome of the election that they risk failing to capitalise on the huge change and awakening of consciousness achieved.

Like I said during the election, any of the 3 candidates would be a major improvement over Buhari, I still hold that believe.

Also this is going to be controversial - and apologies if I come across as being insensitive to the plight of the average Nigerian but I believe that Tinubu being the President taking decisive decision on both FX & Subsidy was received "better" than if same decision taken by Obi, could be due to better state capture, media capture, political or tribal sentiments, lack of better political opposition, political structure, deft political moves against the loudest political oppositions.

I know it is still early days, lots of mistakes are still going to be made, but I think Nigerians have adjusted in a very shortwhile to very difficult changes, I do hope that these sacrifices are not taken for granted, hence my hope that the Obidient collective and Nigerians in general do not relent in holding government accountable.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 7:53am On Sep 01, 2023
izzou:
If a stranger connives with your brother to scam you, the problem is not the stranger, but your brother.

All the arguments about the West, and yet, no one has pointed where the West personally put us in poverty; It is still a Nigerian, Nigerien, Gabonese that was used.

Ibori was discharged and acquitted of all crimes, yet the same West jailed him and recovered monies on our behalf. It is even the same Ibori that APC apologists are sampling and celebrating on this thread. So, how is that a West problem?

The Docility of Nigerians is more of a problem than any other one we want to raise

....easy bro, except you can help with receipt, I believe this allegation is wrong.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:57am On Sep 01, 2023
Oasis003:


....easy bro, except you can help with receipt, I believe this allegation is wrong.

You posted a picture of Tinubu and Ibori here...

What was the aim?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:04am On Sep 01, 2023
Spy360:

It is despicable of you to isolate a few words in my post thereby misinforming readers only to tag me a child. I never expected such from a revered fellow like you.



Dude can't make his point without throwing insults. na 2 just ignore him.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 8:07am On Sep 01, 2023
izzou:


You posted a picture of Tinubu and Ibori here...

What was the aim?

grin

.....can you repost it pls?!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:11am On Sep 01, 2023
Olowunl01:


My chairman wetin dey sup? your post lately has some taint of vexation grin grin grin

My take on this matter is nobody can fix Africa or Nigeria but ourselves, before looking at the west - we should check ourself first; na we dey enable our greedy leaders. Change is happening, 2023
Obidients caused a change, but it seem they are so fixated on the final outcome of the election that they risk failing to capitalise on the huge change and awakening of consciousness achieved.

Like I said during the election, any of the 3 candidates would be a major improvement over Buhari, I still hold that believe.

Also this is going to be controversial - and apologies if I come across as being insensitive to the plight of the average Nigerian but I believe that Tinubu being the President taking decisive decision on both FX & Subsidy was received "better" than if same decision taken by Obi, could be due to better state capture, media capture, political or tribal sentiments, lack of better political opposition, political structure, deft political moves against the loudest political oppositions.

I know it is still early days, lots of mistakes are still going to be made, but I think Nigerians have adjusted in a very shortwhile to very difficult changes, I do hope that these sacrifices are not taken for granted, hence my hope that the Obidient collective and Nigerians in general do not relent in holding government accountable.

Baba I agree with most of the points raised in your post except for the part where u talked about people Nigerians having adjusted in a shortwhile. Nigerians have not adjusted, some companies are dying slow death due to the increase in cost of production and services. Individuals are having their erstwhile insufficient disposable income reduce as days go into months.

As recent as last week we had incident of a burglar jumping into compounds in broad daylight in my area(something that has never happened before now). Maybe that's the burglar's way of adjusting. Transport business is dying a slow death. All these reduced economic activities will not in any way help our economy on the general level.

Anyways there's little or nothing we can do but wait and see where this "janglover" will swing to.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 8:12am On Sep 01, 2023
grin

...its on record on this same thread, when some of you were spreading rumors that Ibori or his gubernatorial candidate made the ministerial list, we mocked and countered it, yet we are celebrating same Ibori. LOL!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:12am On Sep 01, 2023
Oasis003:


grin

.....can you repost it pls?!

Suddenly, you cannot explain the aim?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 8:14am On Sep 01, 2023
izzou:


Suddenly, you cannot explain the aim?

grin

....explain wetin? You alleged wrongly, own it bruh. Search Oasis and Ibori, evidence full ground on this same board.

Just drop a receipt, not just 2, a receipt bro and shame the devil.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:19am On Sep 01, 2023
OasisX:
grin

.....and no fuckin palliative should be introduced to cushioning any fuckin thing, except salary increment for civil servants.
What's the update on this? 😊
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:19am On Sep 01, 2023
Burkina Faso just reached an agreement with Russia..to develop her economy & nuclear energy.

Same Russia is building a nuclear power plant in faraway Bolivia...
But we're spoilt brat for asking for the minimum from the West. By the time oil become useless in the international market. Hw u wan u take feed/sustain over 200m0 nigerians?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:21am On Sep 01, 2023
Oasis003:


grin

....explain wetin? You alleged wrongly, own it bruh. Search Oasis and Ibori, evidence full ground on this same board.

Just drop a receipt, not just 2, a receipt bro and shame the devil.

I don't even know why you are trying so hard to defend yourself.

Why did you post it? Na simple answer you suppose give us.

Na posts like that your own with Ibori make me agree say Africa no even know wetin dem want

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:21am On Sep 01, 2023
larride:
So Ibori got Delta state slot for minister.

Smhs
Oasis003:
grin

...its on record on this same thread, when some of you were spreading rumors that Ibori or his gubernatorial candidate made the ministerial list, we mocked and countered it, yet we are celebrating same Ibori. LOL!
Rumors larride also confirmed?

But you posted pictures of bat and ibori together, izzou is just asking what for?
Is it for decoration, endorsement, connection etc
It’s a harmless question you know
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 8:21am On Sep 01, 2023
liveLongNprospa:

What's the update on this? 😊

grin

....so you ain't following news? NEC already constituted a committee to work on it.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 8:22am On Sep 01, 2023
iamoyindamola:

Rumors larride also confirmed?

But you posted pictures of bat and ibori together, izzou is just asking what for?
Is it for decoration, endorsement, connection etc
It’s a harmless question you know

grin

....what is rumor?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:24am On Sep 01, 2023
Oasis003:


grin

....so you ain't following news? NEC already constituted a committee to work on it.
.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:24am On Sep 01, 2023
Oasis003:


grin

....so you ain't following news? NEC already constituted a committee to work on it.

Lmao so no increment as we speak ba😁

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis003: 8:26am On Sep 01, 2023
izzou:


I don't even know why you are trying so hard to defend yourself.

Why did you post it? Na simple answer you suppose give us.

Na posts like that your own with Ibori make me agree say Africa no even know wetin dem want

grin

.....trying hard? LMFAO!

But posts of folks as you seriously hoping Ibori made the list for a reason well known make you believe Africa know wetin dem want?!

Abegi.....I no get time to dey explain. Drop evidence you no fit.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:26am On Sep 01, 2023
Oasis003:


grin

....what is rumor?
Ministerial slot meaning he will have to battle it out with others and he no enter
Okay forget that

The picture of bat and ibori that you posted what do you mean?

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