Knowledge23:

And just to prove to you how useless shrines are, choose any shrine of your choice or better the most powerful shrine and if given the go ahead order I will destroy and burn it down to ashes.
I don't need to step in there, just a lighter, fuel and gloves.

I wish you live long my child, I really wish you live long!

Kobojunkie:
The supernatural as the name implies is not of physical measurable space but of experience which tends to be a lot more subjective than most are willing to accept . So it is utterly ludicrous to claim that since A and B said it is not real, it then must not be real. It is better to shut up about these things than to insist your conclusion is the right one.

What if I tell you that I'm standing in your room with you, would you believe me, Junkie?

Knowledge23:

What has Untouchable got to do about what we are saying here.

A supernatural events happened to him. This happened when he confronted an herbalist and he was trying to destroy the man shrine. My brother, there are a lot of things beyond physics. You are diving into world of atheism from your topic. I was once an atheist but changed my view as some of their points is not logical and reasonable. It's better to be agnostic than being dogmatic.

MindHacker9009:


I agree that some of the videos were staged but how about the cctv videos, if they were staged too then they have done a very cleaver job.

Obviously you have a lot to learn in videoshopping

Maynman:
this is foolishness, have you also gone to the bermuda triangle to experience this "supernatural"?
Who are the people that termed it "supernatural"?
On what basis is it "supernatural"?

Get some education, there are other places that does exactly what bermuda triangle does and it has an explanation.

Junkie, not only needs education but rehab. Dude's brain is fried

MaxInDHouse:

How old are you?
How many places have you been?
If you're seeking magical powers it's not given to everyone because those in charge has their own mission and if you're not part of their target they will not even come close to you so you can't see anything to hold onto as evidence of their existence.
So free your mind and go find something clean to do for survival because spiritism doesn't work for the innocent but heartless humans whoever goes into it has no means of a return back to normal life.
A word is enough for the wise!

Have you experienced 'spiritism'?

MaxInDHouse:

Can you bring Vladimir Putin to Nairaland as evidence that Russian president exists?

Ọmọ magical powers are not the properties of those using it they borrow it from the spirit world so it's the spirits themselves that choose to reveal themselves to whoever they want not the other way around.

So instead of asking a borrower to display the wealth that doesn't belong to him why not go to domain of the owners themselves?

Find a local shrine then enter and disrupt the place, i wish you live to tell the story!

This is the daftest of the daftest posts from the daftest MadMax.
We see Putin everyday. We hear him everyday. We watch him move. We see his actions(the Russian Ukraine war). Hell, we know his children. What other evidence do you need he exists?

MaxInDHouse:


In the year 1997 my own uncle (Muslim) got up and went into the shine of the gods inside our village, he destroyed all the woody images and the big one he couldn't destroy he carried it and threw it into the bush. The next day my uncle became blind and that's how he lived for the rest of his life!

What pained me mostly is how he turned the discussion i had with him into something that actually led to the loss of his sight.

I traveled to our village and on getting there i asked for my parents and my uncle told me they've gone to church for the harvest festival.
In our village all religionists does everything in common, during Christmas, Easter and New Year both Muslims and Traditionalists will join the churchgoers to celebrate and when it's the turn of the others the same goes but my uncle (Imam) kicks against such interfaith. So my visit that day led to a discussion when he told me everyone has gone to the church and he's the only person left in the whole village.
Thinking i will go and join them he asked:
"Won't you also go?"
I responded:
"They are not worshiping my own God"
That response sounds really strange to my uncle and that's how i bore a thorough witness to him that day, he felt so happy that he said:

"Now you and i can team up to rescue our people from the hands of this fetish things they are doing"

I told him things doesn't work that way, if he truly wants to worship the true God he need not foce his own opinion on others each person will decide after hearing the GOOD NEWS. He said he really wish everyone is here to listen to what i'm saying because they will all repent but i told him it's not that easy and if he himself is ready can he abandon Islam for JWs?
He said that will be too much for him to bare because everyone has known him as a jihadist (not violent but always kicking against idolatry) so how can he now say he doesn't know what he's doing anymore?
I looked into his eyes and tears ran through my cheeks then i asked him:
"If you whose parents joined this religion all of a sudden refused to change for the truth you heard now how do you expect those whose ancestors has been in this practice for centuries to change easily?"
My uncle couldn't respond anymore!
That's what actually prompted him to go into the village shrine and cause a disruption that led to his blindness!

Lets say I believe your story.
Has your uncle gone to the hospital for treatment? Is he hypertensive, diabetic etc?

gisevak:

A supernatural events happened to him. This happened when he confronted an herbalist and he was trying to destroy the man shrine. My brother, there are a lot of things beyond physics. You are diving into world of atheism from your topic. I was once an atheist but changed my view as some of their points is not logical and reasonable. It's better to be agnostic than being dogmatic.

And you believed his story without any shred of evidence?

gisevak:

A supernatural events happened to him. This happened when he confronted an herbalist and he was trying to destroy the man shrine. My brother, there are a lot of things beyond physics. You are diving into world of atheism from your topic. I was once an atheist but changed my view as some of their points is not logical and reasonable. It's better to be agnostic than being dogmatic.

Lol Untouchable that fakes videos, you are not serious.
If you believe Untouchable then you still have a long way to go. I watched that video where he took one girl to her boyfriend how she accused of putting her picture in a calabash.
That video is completely scripted.

Kiddies thread i guess!

jaephoenix:

And you believed his story without any shred of evidence?

The video was captured through his tiktok handle. Observation is a key to knowledge. Make more findings for yourself and stop relying on only what you have been told. Atheists are dogmatic just as organized religion. There are things beyond the physical that we can as well explore just as physics.

jaephoenix:

Junkie, not only needs education but rehab. Dude's brain is fried

Please
All I'm saying is let someone get us something debate Worthy, yet nothing just talking.
They will be quick to show me fake edited videos but when I request for real prove of supernatural Powers they will tell me that it cannot be seen or proved

Knowledge23:


Lol Untouchable that fakes videos, you are not serious.
If you believe Untouchable then you still have a long way to go. I watched that video where he took one girl to her boyfriend how she accused of putting her picture in a calabash.
That video is completely scripted.

Put untouchable videos aside, do you really believed there is no supernatural I have really experience supernatural things myself.
As an agnostic, it make no sense to conclude with 100% assurance that there is no supernatural. Are those things you put up there your reasons It's laughable!!!

gisevak:

The video was captured through his tiktok handle. Observation is a key to knowledge. Make more findings for yourself and stop relying on only what you have been told. Atheists are dogmatic just as organized religion. There are things beyond the physical that we can as well explore just as physics.

You keep talking about atheists which is not the point
I will bring a blind man to any pastor or herbalist to cure instantly and until that happens then I will believe you.
But wait o all these miracles happening churches so they're not real

gisevak:

Put untouchable videos aside, do you really believed there is no supernatural I have really experience supernatural things myself.
As an agnostic, it make no sense to conclude with 100% assurance that there is no supernatural. Are those things you put up there your reasons It's laughable!!!

So what are your experience

gisevak:

The video was captured through his tiktok handle. Observation is a key to knowledge. Make more findings for yourself and stop relying on only what you have been told. Atheists are dogmatic just as organized religion. There are things beyond the physical that we can as well explore just as physics.

Lol. I have tried to observe myself and found nothing. That's why I still remain atheistic. I can give you the specifics of my observations but you may not believe me and I won't blame you.

Knowledge23:

You keep talking about atheists which is not the point
I will bring a blind man to any pastor or herbalist to cure instantly and until that happens then I will believe you.
But wait o all these miracles happening churches so they're not real

If pastors or herbalist could not cure instantly then a conclusion there is no supernatural? This is a shallow mindset.
Check the following and give me a scientific proof about the following?
Dream?

Sleep?

Gravity?

The First human on earth

jaephoenix:

Junkie, not only needs education but rehab. Dude's brain is fried

Junkie na old woman oo

gisevak:

If pastors or herbalist could not cure instantly then a conclusion there is no supernatural? This is a shallow mindset.
Check the following and give me a scientific proof about the following?
Dream?

Sleep?

Gravity?

The First human on earth

Christ fucking Jesus, you people are hopelessly ignorant.

jaephoenix:

Lol. I have tried to observe myself and found nothing. That's why I still remain atheistic. I can give you the specifics of my observations but you may not believe me and I won't blame you.

There over billions of things to find out? well, if you don't know, check these out.

Have you found out if life on earth is accidental or not?

Gravity is both incredibly weak and incredibly strong as per scientists, holding the entire universe together, whilst also being 10^36 times weaker than the force that brings two magnets together. Explain how is able to attract every things to the earth while magnets cannot?

gisevak:

There over billions of things to find out? well, if you don't know, check these out.

Have you found out if life on earth is accidental or not?

Gravity is both incredibly weak and incredibly strong as per scientists, holding the entire universe together, whilst also being 10^36 times weaker than the force that brings two magnets together. Explain how is able to attract every things to the earth while magnets cannot?

So gravity is supernatural Powers abi? So you are in control of gravity

KnownUnknown:


Christ fucking Jesus, you people are hopelessly ignorant.

I am not a christian. I am an agnostic. Your concept is dogmatic!!!
You are not talking to a christian!!! Stop deceiving and misleading people in this platform.
Answer the questions I put up there Mr Know All.

gisevak:


I am not a christian. I am an agnostic. Your concept is dogmatic!!!
You are not talking to a christian!!! Stop deceiving and misleading people in this platform.
Answer the questions I put up there Mr Know All.

Of course you are agnostic!! The ignorance and confusion of people that call themselves agnostic is often displayed here.

Knowledge23:

So gravity is supernatural Powers abi? So you are in control of gravity

Supernature is also liken to some forces beyond scientific understanding or proof.
Show me where scientist has proven gravity.

KnownUnknown:


Of course you are agnostic!! The ignorance and confusion of people that call themselves agnostic is often displayed here.

You that is not ignorance, prove the following with scientific explanation

Dream

Sleep

Gravity

The First human on earth

You are more ignorant than I think

gisevak:


You that is not ignorance, prove the following with scientific explanation

Dream

Sleep

Gravity

The First human on earth

You are more ignorant than I think

Dream is series of thoughts, images, and sensations occurring in a person's mind during sleep.
So I don't know how that relates to supernatural Powers

Knowledge23:

Dream is series of thoughts, images, and sensations occurring in a person's mind during sleep.
So I don't know how that relates to supernatural Powers

We are talking about supernatural. The question is why do we dream?

gisevak:


I am not a christian. I am an agnostic. Your concept is dogmatic!!!
You are not talking to a christian!!! Stop deceiving and misleading people in this platform.
Answer the questions I put up there Mr Know All.

An Agnostic is someone that believes the position of agnosticism

You are the dogmatic one.

gisevak:

We are talking about supernatural. The question is why do we dream?

Why do rain fall?

gisevak:


Keep deceiving yourself. Can you bring into existence another planet like earth with chemical or science Your consciousness is a testimony there is a supernatural. Nature is an example of supernatural . Have you heard of popular tiktoker called untouchable? What keep sun or earth moving?? If you know, can you replicate it Can you prove me wrong with logic or science Try!!!

Please come clear some things for this ancestor.

How does Consciousness prove there's what you call Supernatural ?

And...

How is Nature another proof of Supernatural? Shouldn't all just be Natural ?

Mind you, I presently hold that the term supernatural is among one of the nonsense coined to explain events or principles of nature ignorant and ill equipped humans can't fathom at their current level. Lack of appropriate information mostly leads to calling many things supernatural and spiritual whereas they are all simply naturally occuring matters.

Maynman:

Why do rain fall?

Is this your scientific proof or explanation on why we dream?
Do you know that supernatural is a concept that is attributed to some forces that is beyond scientific proofs or laws?