MindHacker9009:


I still don't believe these kind of stories too, as there are no chams that can stop any bullet. But still there are demonic activities that happens which can only be known by experiencing it.

Have you experienced one?

jaephoenix:

Have you experienced one?

That even science is whiteman's witchcraft. I used to hear this before but thought it cannot be, but now I have come to realise that to come up and make for the first time some of the things we use today is beyond just education and research. If not with all the universities we have today in Nigeria Nigeria too should be sending spaceships to the moon. But African's supernatural powers are only used for wickedness and to tie people down.

jaephoenix:

Have you experienced one?

Also I was watching a video documentary on youtube that said the Roman empire in the past will first consult with the spirit guiding a kingdom to ask for it to submit to them before they can wage war against that kingdom.

MindHacker9009:


That even science is whiteman's witchcraft. I used to hear this before but thought it cannot be, but now I have come to realise that to come up and make for the first time some of the things we use today is beyond just education and research. If not with all the universities we have today in Nigeria Nigeria too should be sending spaceships to the moon. But African's supernatural powers are only used for wickedness and to tie people down.

"Some of the things we use today", like cars, generators, bridges, telephones, defibrillators?

The quality of your witchcraft matters, and the white man's seems based on the proper use of the senses to learn, while most Africans have not yet discovered their eyes.

When we do discover our senses - and we will one day - greater things than have been done shall we do.

budaatum:


"Some of the things we use today", like cars, generators, bridges, telephones, defibrillators?

The quality of your witchcraft matters, and the white man's seems based on the proper use of the senses to learn, while most Africans have not yet discovered their eyes.

When we do discover our senses - and we will one day - greater things than have been done shall we do.

that will be in the next world...

definitely not this one..

22jumpstreet1:


what where the so called Christians arguing about that necessitated emperor Constantine to summon the council?

so this is Sonmvayina, iraneus "came much much later after nicea" abi and Eusebius wrote book of mark 😂😂

Maynman:
so this is Sonmvayina, iraneus "came much much later after nicea" abi and Eusebius wrote book of mark 😂😂

You have not addressed my question..

Quit dodging it...

What was the Arianian controversy

And what did Athanasius say to satisfy both sides?..
If they had those books, why would they be arguing?

Who quoted from the books pre Nicea..?

sonmvayina:


You have not addressed my question..

Quit dodging it...

What was the Arianian controversy

And what did Athanasius say to satisfy both sides?..
If they had those books, why would they be arguing?

Who quoted from the books pre Nicea

Iraneus came much much later after nicea abi, keep deluding yourself.

Those books were written long before eusebius was born, there entering into the official Canon was the issue and Canon was not finalized until the Synod of Rome by pope Damasus.

sonmvayina:


If they had those books, why would they be arguing?

They were arguing about the nature of the trinity, look up homoousios.

Maynman:

Iraneus came much much later after nicea abi, keep deluding yourself.

Those books were written long before eusebius was born, there entering into the official Canon was the issue and Canon was not finalized until the Synod of Rome by pope Damasus.

What nonsense...
Go study more...

sonmvayina:


And what did Athanasius say to satisfy both sides?..

Athanasius was part of those that defended the trinity concept.

Where are you getting your jargons?

sonmvayina:


What nonsense...
Go study more...

Tell me the sources where you studied from sir, especially were iraneus came much much later after nicea.

Maynman:

Tell me the sources where you studied from sir, especially were iraneus came much much later after nicea.

I never said iraneus came much letter, whatever he had was not either of the four gospels..and moreover Christianity started from Egypt, it was after the council of Nicea that emperor Constantine told Eusebius to collect what was good in the manuscript that was presented by the presbyters and produce a single document..After Constantine has approved it, he gave him money to prepare 50..

Eusebius gospel of mark was the original copy...

Maynman:

Athanasius was part of those that defended the trinity concept.

Where are you getting your jargons?

It was him who said he was both God and man...
Some factions believed the logos was God
Another factions believed he was man...

Athanasius stood up and said he was both...

That was why Eusebius had to forge a human history for him...

sonmvayina:


I never said iraneus came much letter, whatever he had was not either of the four gospels..and moreover Christianity started from Egypt, it was after the council of Nicea that emperor Constantine told Eusebius to collect what was good in the manuscript that was presented by the prsesbyters and produce a single document..After Constantine has approvcad it, he gave him money to prepare 50..books

Eusebius gospel of mark the original copy...

Yes you said so yesterdy, the 4 sypnotic gospel book we have now even predated iraneus itself, different sects use different books, there was no authorized books for everyone, it was iranues that first advocated for the 4 gospel books out of others.
The gospel books were not written at the same time, so what manuscript did eusebius collect from which prebsyter or do you mean john the prebsyter? 😂
Are you now saying eusebius didn't write mark?

sonmvayina:


It was him who said he was both God and man...
Some factions believed the logos was God
Another factions believed he was man...

Athanasius stood up and said he was both...

That was why Eusebius had to forge a human history for him...

They were never arguing on logos, but the nature of trinity. The Ousia and Hypotases.
The trinity concept only truimp because of support of constantine, and mind you there was no Christianity then, what we had then was the Catholic , and it was the Catholic that was made state religion.
Mention the factions that were arguing.
Stop lying, look up on the nicea creed doctrine, the story of jesus been human and executed by pontius pilate was very well known.
Nicea creed was set up to address Arian Controversy.

Maynman:

They were never arguing on logos, but the nature of trinity. The Ousia and Hypotases.
The trinity concept only truimp because of support of constantine, and mind you there was no Christianity then, what we had then was the Catholic , and it was the Catholic that was made state religion.
Mention the factions that were arguing.
Stop lying, look up on the nicea creed doctrine, the story of jesus been human and executed by pontius pilate was very well known.
Nicea creed was set up to address Arian Controversy.

Then why would they be arguing if they had the gospels ?

When was the codex sinaticus written ?

sonmvayina:


Then why would they be arguing if they had the gospels ?

When was the codex sinaticus written ?

even till now we have churches with different Doctrines.
Who are the people arguing, mention them.

Maynman:

even till now we have churches with different Doctrines.
Who are the people arguing, mention them.

When was the codex sinaticus written?

sonmvayina:


When was the codex sinaticus written?

who are the people arguing mention them also look up what "codex"mean

MindHacker9009:


I still don't believe these kind of stories too, as there are no chams that can stop any bullet. But still there are demonic activities that happens which can only be known by experiencing it.

Why don't you believe me?

MindHacker9009:


Also I was watching a video documentary on youtube that said the Roman empire in the past will first consult with the spirit guiding a kingdom to ask for it to submit to them before they can wage war against that kingdom.

And? Does it mean such 'spirits' exist? If they did exist, don't you think the Roman Empire would still be standing til now and remain undefeated?

sonmvayina:


Then why would they be arguing if they had the gospels?

We argue because we all have different understandings of the gospels and just about all else we argue about. And if you seek deeper you'd find that's because we all don't 'see' the same gospel or anything else we look at.

The brain is to blame. We all have one, which, without training, registers what one sees but ignores what others see.