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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:25pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Science hasn't and would never claim knowledge of everything. It only attempts to know. Science tends to improve on itself regularly. But it doesn't acknowledge the supernatural. Lemme explain.
In medical science, if a patient presents to me and says, "Oh, I have a big hump on my back, please cut it off" and has no such hump, do I say, "Oh there is no physical evidence of the presence of this hump, however, let me assume there may be a hump since we can't see it physically but spiritually it may be there"? No. Why? Because science(medical science in this case) doesn't care about your spiritual bullshit. I can bundle that patient to the psyche ward and manage him for schizophrenia.
That's how we roll. Thank you

How does this answer the questions being asked?
Since you know science has no answers to everything, don't you think it's illogical to conclude about things? What if science comes out today that all you know is a lie What would you do

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:30pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

How do you know a designed natural world. Do you have a perfect model u can compare as a control?
You supplied a dumb response. You're more ignorant than I thought
Check the question that was asked. See your reply!!!

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:46pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

You don't need to be a Christian to be a theist sympathizer. You're one step away from being a Christian
Facts is never only opinions of any belief systems. This does not make me a theist. Try to know the truth about not only religion but also in world. The world or universe cannot just be explained with scientific proofs alone. Did you know about quantum physics

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 5:00pm On Sep 09, 2023
Iamanoited:
MIRACLES ARE SUPERNATURAL POWERS AND THEY HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.
Any proof?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 7:10pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

It seems you don't understand the question properly. Let me explain it to you briefly; Scientists have discovered that the universe has just the right things in it, like stars, planets, and gravity, for life to exist. Scientists think it all these happened all by itself over a really, really long time. They called it, "fine tune". Try to comprehend before you rush to respond. Your response is against the scientific explanations. This is pure contradiction of your belief system.
1. Gravity is inimical to human existence.
2. Can you be more specific on 'just the right things'?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 7:13pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:


Atheists hold certain beliefs or philosophies about life, ethics, and the universe? Do you agree with it?
Atheism means belief in no god. Which translates to no demons, spirits, etc. Atheism doesn't approve any philosophy. Many atheists hold differing philosophies. Maybe you'll have to explain the specific philosophies.
And I defo don't know about any ethics. We aint an organization
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 7:17pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:


How does this answer the questions being asked?
Since you know science has no answers to everything, don't you think it's illogical to conclude about things? What if science comes out today that all you know is a lie What would you do
Ok. I agree science has answers to some phenomena. But it doesn't acknowledge the supernatural. Maybe because it doesn't have the knowledge or equipment to tackle it. So do you think science should do more to address the supernatural? If you do, then you have to define 'supernatural'. Because what is supernatural today may be natural in 50 years
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 7:19pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

You supplied a dumb response. You're more ignorant than I thought
Check the question that was asked. See your reply!!!
You asked if I see any evidence of orderliness or purpose in the universe. And I replied if you have an ordered and purposeful universe before. You need a template or control for your assumption. So the answer is correct.
For example if you say a room is clean and neat, you must have seen a clean and neat room before. Savvy?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 7:25pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Atheism means belief in no god. Which translates to no demons, spirits, etc. Atheism doesn't approve any philosophy. Many atheists hold differing philosophies. Maybe you'll have to explain the specific philosophies.
And I defo don't know about any ethics. We aint an organization
Don't atheists have philosophy on how to be good? Yes or No?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 7:32pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Ok. I agree science has answers to some phenomena. But it doesn't acknowledge the supernatural. Maybe because it doesn't have the knowledge or equipment to tackle it. So do you think science should do more to address the supernatural? If you do, then you have to define 'supernatural'. Because what is supernatural today may be natural in 50 years
Then let wait till that 50 years when it would become natural. We can simply call it now beyond science or supernatural

What if in 50 years time scientists actually said some phenomena is supernatural? What would you do?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 8:18pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Ok, I don't know!!!
Can you provide answers to my questions now?
It has no purpose.

You are a nobody, I don't own you answers.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 8:19pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

I know!!! Can you clearly explain the origin of physical laws? that is one of the questions i[b][/b] asked you..
Define physical laws.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 8:21pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

You are a student. Keep reading your logic and science books to learn about a much larger and more complex world. Your belief is dogmatic. There are more of them in the world. It sounds like you are new to atheism.
You are the one that's dogmatic, look up the meaning of the word.
They have indoctrinated you with ignorance in form of supernatural.
Anything you as an observer lack knowledge on is automatically"supernatural".
You are obsessed with it.

It sounds like you don't even know the definition of atheism.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 8:52pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Facts is never only opinions of any belief systems. This does not make me a theist. Try to know the truth about not only religion but also in world. The world or universe cannot just be explained with scientific proofs alone. Did you know about quantum physics
I know about Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics. We are even trying to build Quantum Resistant Blockchains in crypto
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 8:54pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Don't atheists have philosophy on how to be good? Yes or No?

No. Many atheists have their own worldviews. However many atheists are humanists that is always be good to the next person
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 8:56pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Then let wait till that 50 years when it would become natural. We can simply call it now beyond science or supernatural

What if in 50 years time scientists actually said some phenomena is supernatural? What would you do?
Like we keep on pointing out. Some phenomena were said to be supernatural years ago but these days are natural. Like lightning, epidemics etc. Science has a way of getting the answers to these supernatural questions as they develop more tools for research. Give it time and science fixes it
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 8:59pm On Sep 09, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Stupid question
Ok
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 9:43pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Define physical laws.
Physical laws are rules that describe the behavior of the physical universe. For example the Second Law of Thermodynamics

I don't think you have idea of why you become atheist. You could not even give answers to some simple questions been asked. Are you doing follow follow just like one-eyed man leading the blind I was once an atheist before I changed my perspective. Atheism doesn't make you more woke than others. The world or universe is complex, see it in different angles yourself. Do you know scientists has limited knowledge about what goes on under the ocean or waters?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 9:47pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Physical laws are rules that describe the behavior of the physical universe. For example the Second Law of Thermodynamics
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where did you get this definition?
Second law of thermodynamics is just an observation of nature by an observer, nature does not obey the law of thermodynamics.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 9:49pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

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I don't think you have idea of why you become atheist. You could not even give answers to some simple questions been asked. Are you doing follow follow just like one-eyed man leading the blind I was once an atheist before I changed my perspective. Atheism doesn't make you more woke than others. The world or universe is complex, see it in different angles yourself. Do you know scientists has limited knowledge about what goes on under the ocean or waters?
Theist, we can now see your ignorance in full glare hiding under religion yet pretending.
"grin
I asked you a more simple question, why do rain fall. And you became empty. you are desperate for anything"supernatural", instead of you to use your brain to solve a problem you call it "supernatural".

You were never an atheist, you lack the definition of what atheism is.

Scientists are humans like you, using their brain to know more about nature and not settling for beliefs in the name of supernatural, you are just there to castigate scientist and call what you lack knowledge on "supernatural".], after you call it "supernatural' you stop thinking, that's why europeans are different from africans.

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 9:51pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

No. Many atheists have their own worldviews. However many atheists are humanists that is always be good to the next person
Humanism is a philosophical view bro
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 9:57pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:
where did you get this definition?
Second law of thermodynamics is just an observation of nature by an observer, nature does not obey the law of thermodynamics.
Very good contradiction about your beliefs system. That means you don't believed in the law of thermodynamic I thought science holds basis of atheistic views. It seems now you're saying otherwise.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 10:00pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Very good contradiction about your beliefs system. That means you don't believed in the law of thermodynamic I thought science holds basis of atheistic views. It seems now you're saying otherwise.
When you were an atheist did you believe in the law of thermodynamics?

The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest. most noble prize winners are theist.

You are empty theist.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:04pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Like we keep on pointing out. Some phenomena were said to be supernatural years ago but these days are natural. Like lightning, epidemics etc. Science has a way of getting the answers to these supernatural questions as they develop more tools for research. Give it time and science fixes it

Don't you think in the future,scientists cannot still get origin of life on Earth?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:09pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

When you were an atheist did you believe in the law of thermodynamics?

The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest. most noble prize winners are theist.

You are empty theist.
Let take you into programming; Did you know about inheritance in java? For example class A extends class B, we can say that A is B. Therefore the law of thermodynamic is one of the rules of nature. Prove it that it's not
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:13pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

When you were an atheist did you believe in the law of thermodynamics?

The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest. most noble prize winners are theist.

You are empty theist.
How does the Earth form? Give your theory or you don't have any
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 10:13pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Let take you into programming; Did you know about inheritance in java? For example class A extends class B, we can say that A is B. Therefore the law of thermodynamic is one of the rules of nature. Prove it that it's not
States the law of thermodynamics, let's see his relation to A extends B.

When you were an atheist, wat did you believe cheesy
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 10:17pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

How does the Earth form? Give your theory or you don't have any
This is illiteracy, I should explain how earth form on nairaland,do you think it is a groudnut discussion 😂
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:21pm On Sep 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Atheism means belief in no god. Which translates to no demons, spirits, etc. Atheism doesn't approve any philosophy. Many atheists hold differing philosophies. Maybe you'll have to explain the specific philosophies.
And I defo don't know about any ethics. We aint an organization
But do you know it takes a belief system to actually disbelieved and still keeps to it?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 10:27pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

But do you know it a belief system to actually disbelieved and still keeps to it?
Same way you hold a belief system that jaephoenix is not sitting on your shoulder right now, why do you disbelieve?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:32pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

This is illiteracy, I should explain how earth form on nairaland,do you think it is a groudnut discussion 😂
The formation of the Earth is a fascinating area of study in planetary science and cosmology. Scientists have developed well-supported theories and hypotheses about Earth's formation based on extensive research and evidence. And you can still give your view in a summarized way on how earth is formed.
I[b] don't know[/b], so throw more enlightenment on it.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:36pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

States the law of thermodynamics, let's see his relation to A extends B.

When you were an atheist, wat did you believe cheesy
State second law of thermodynamic. And I would explain how class A extends B from it.

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