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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 10:37pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

The formation of the Earth is a fascinating area of study in planet science and cosmology. Scientists have developed well-supported theories and hypotheses about Earth's formation based on extensive research and evidence. And you can still give your view in a summarized way on how earth is formed.
I[b] don't know[/b], so throw more enlightenment on it.
Go look up scientists that are vast in it for enlightenment.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 10:39pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

State second law of thermodynamic. And I would explain how class A extends B from it.

States the law of thermodynamics, let's see his relation to A extends B.
Also show me where you got your definition of "physical laws'
when you were an atheist, wat did you believe]
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 10:49pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Go look up scientists that are vast in it for enlightenment.
Tell me about your findings that made you change your views to atheism. Is it the Abrahamic Religion? Is it those Scriptures contradictions or illogical concept of hellfire?? grin grin But there are more to this Don't just limit your knowledge to atheism. It is more logical to be agnostic than atheism.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 10:53pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Tell me about your findings that made you change your views to atheism. Is it the Abrahamic Religion? Is it those Scriptures contradictions or illogical concept of hellfire?? grin grin But there are more to this Don't just limit yourknoledge to atheism. It is more logical to be agnostic than atheism.
What do you understand by "atheism"?

An agnostics is someone that belives the position of agnosticism.
Agnostic means you lack knowledge, the opposite is Gnostic which is more reasonable.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:04pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

What do you understand by "atheism"?

An agnostics is someone that belives the position of agnosticism.
Agnostic means you lack knowledge, the opposite is Gnostic which is more reasonable.
Let me put this straight to that:

Agnostics does not have believe in any known gods because those gods does not need our believe; But we do not claim certainty about their nonexistence because we don't have enough facts to rejects its existence.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:06pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Let me put this straight to that:
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Agnostics does not have believe in any known gods because thonose gods does not need our believe; But we do not claim certainty about their becgodause we don't have enough facts to rejects its existence.
How do you know those gods don't need your beliefs, is that not another belief in itself.

Again, an agnostics is someone that belives the position of agnosticism.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:13pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Let me put this straight to that:
Agnostics does not have believe in any known gods because those gods does not need our believe; But we do not claim certainty about their nonexistence because we don't have enough facts to rejects its existence.
I call agnostics, theist sympathizers.

"Nowadays, the term “agnostic” is often used (when the issue is God’s existence) to refer to those who follow the recommendation expressed in the conclusion of Huxley’s argument: an agnostic is a person who has entertained the proposition that there is a God but believes neither that it is true nor that it is false.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:23pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

How do you know those gods don't need your beliefs, is that not another belief in itself.

Again, an agnostics is someone that belives the position of agnosticism.
I have given you one of the points for agnosticism. We don't have enough knowledge to reject gods existence or any related stuffs. It's not a belief system because we are not dogmatic about views. We don't take science as the only authority in our views. We don't know all about our universe. We seek to know more.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:26pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

I have given you one of the points for agnosticism. We don'tst have enough knowledge to reject gods existence or any related stuffs. It's not sad a belief system because we are not dog matic about views. We don't take science as the only authority in our views. We don't know all about our universe. We seek to know more.
Agnostics are theist sympathizers, how do you know there is no enough evidence?

Agnostic are dogmatic, you have already accepted the position that Gods exist.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:27pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:
I call agnostics, theist sympathizers.

"Nowadays, the term “agnostic” is often used (when the issue is God’s existence) to refer to those who follow the recommendation expressed in the conclusion of Huxley’s argument: an agnostic is a person who has entertained the proposition that there is a God but believes neither that it is true nor that it is false.
I have given what best described us. Not the one you put up here.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:30pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

I have given what best described us. Not the one you put up here.
The definition is from the person that coined the word "agnosticism", I don't think you even know him, you are just carrying the title and forming definitions lol.

It is also worth mentioning that, even in Huxley’s time, some apophatic theists embraced the term “agnostic”, claiming that all good Christians worshipped an “unknown God”.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:33pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Agnostics are theist sympathizers, how do you know there is no enough evidence?

Agnostic are dogmatic, you have already accepted the position that Gods exist.
What if I tell you we don't have enough facts to rejects or accept But there is more facts to accept than to reject. We don't have enough facts because we lack in capacity to know. Have you been able to give me full evidence about how life started with facts?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:37pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

What if I tell you we don't have enough facts to rejects or accept But there is more facts to accept than to reject. We don't have enough facts because we lack in capacity to know. Have you been able to give me full evidence about how life started with facts?
prove we don't have enough evidence.
If you lack knowledge on something, keep it to yourself, don't try to extend your ignorance to other people.

Think, if this god created life that means he is lifeless lol
And how can a lifeless thing create that which has life?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:40pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

The definition is from the person that coined the word "agnosticism", I don't think you even know him, you are just carrying the title and forming definitions lol.

It is also worth mentioning that, even in Huxley’s time, some apophatic theists embraced the term “agnostic”, claiming that all good Christians worshipped an “unknown God”.
Why should gods want me to worship its/him/her? What facts says we should worship gods outside the Religious Book. The definition doesn't capture majority of agnostic.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:44pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Why should gods want me to worship its/him/her? What facts says we should worship gods outside the Religious Book. The definition doesn't capture majority of agnostic.
Theism deals with belief and faith.
Everything about gods is from religious books.

It perfectly captures theist sympathizers calling themselves Agnostic.
The definition is from the person that coined the word.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:45pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:
prove we don't have enough evidence.
If you lack knowledge on something, keep it to yourself, don't try to extend your ignorance to other people.

Think, if this god created life that means he is lifeless lol
And how can a lifeless thing create that which has life?
Does your scientists claim they have evidence to reject existence of gods?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:46pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Does your scientists claim they have evidence to reject existence of gods?
Scientists don't deal with beliefs you will know that if you know what "atheism" is.

Do you have enough evidence to reject tom and jerry exist?
Are you Agnostic about it too?

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:48pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Theism deals with belief and faith.
Everything about gods is from religious books.

It perfectly captures theist sympathizers calling themselves Agnostic.
The definition is from the person that coined the word.
I am describing our views but you're rejecting. His views is not same as mine. Period!!!
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:49pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

I am describing our views but you're rejecting. His views is not same as mine. Period!!!
Then you need to find another phrase to define your beliefs.
Agnosticism was coined by huxley and he has define it.
Period!
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:50pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Scientists don't deal with beliefs you will know that if you know what "atheism" is.

Do you have enough evidence to reject tom and jerry exist?
Are you Agnostic about it too?
I am saying we don't have proof to reject existence of gods? Or do you have proofs?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:52pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

I am saying we don't have proof to reject existence of gods? Or do you have proofs?
Prove we don't have proof that Gods don't exist.

If you lack knowledge, don't extend it to others.

Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:53pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Then you need to find another phrase to define your beliefs.
Agnosticism was coined by huxley and he has define it.
Period!
Are you part of atheist that says there is no god??
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:53pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

Are you part of atheist that says there is no god??
Define "atheism"

I have asked so many times lol
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:56pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:
Prove we don't have proof that Gods exist.

If you lack knowledge, don't extend it to others.

Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?
On what context are you saying Tom and Jerry does not exist. Is it name Tom and Jerry or cat and rats name Tom and Jerry? They may exists depending on the contexts.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 11:58pm On Sep 09, 2023
Maynman:

Define "atheism"

I have asked so many times lol
What can you describe about your atheism?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 11:58pm On Sep 09, 2023
gisevak:

On what context are you saying Tom and Jerry does not exist. Is it name Tom and Jerry or cat and rats name Tom and Jerry? They may exists depending on the contexts.
This is illogical, Names don't exist, what's the shape of the name "bayo"?


Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 12:00am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

What can you describe about your atheism?
Define "atheism"

I think that's where your ignorance started and you said you were once an atheist or is it just a lie to promote your supernatural beliefs while hiding under agnosticism.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 12:00am On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

This is illogical, Names don't exist, what's the shape of the name "bayo"?


Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?
On what contexts This is fallacy of comparison!!!
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 12:03am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

On what contexts This is fallacy of comparison!!!

Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 12:04am On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Define "atheism"

I think that's where your ignorance started and you said you were once an atheist or is it just a lie to promote your supernatural beliefs while hiding under agnosticism.
Can you provide answers to some of the questions I asked and i would reply you concerning, "definition of atheism".
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 12:05am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

Can you provide answers to some of the questions I asked and i would reply you concerning, "definition of atheism".
After you provide answers to some of the questions I have been asking you SINCE

You have been dodging it.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 12:11am On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:


Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?


You're still a students, I presumed. I don't think I would want to talk with you back and forward. Go through my posts and provide answers to those questions. Please don't quote me again until you do so. I don't do half bake knowledge grin grin If you can't answer them tell me straight otherwise I might note reply after this. Good night!!! Lecture ends cheesy grin

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