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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 12:18am On Sep 10, 2023
Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?

gisevak:

You're still a students, I presumed. I don't think I would want to talk with you back and forward. Go through my posts and provide answers to those questions. Please don't quote me again until you do so. I don't do half bake knowledge grin grin If you can't answer them tell me straight otherwise I might note reply after this. Good night!!! Lecture ends cheesy grin
The only illiterate here is you that thinks people "believe" in law of thermodynamics.

You are still an enslaved theist hiding under agnosticism, you lack knowledge of what you are, you are just doing follow follow around.
Here read about agnosticism and cure your ignorance.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#toc

Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 12:21am On Sep 10, 2023
[ quote author=gisevak post=125691761]
Let take you into programming; Did you know about inheritance in java? For example class A extends class B, we can say that A is B. Therefore the law of thermodynamic is one of the rules of nature. Prove it that it's not[/quote]

States the law of thermodynamics, let's see his relation to A extends B in java programming.
Define 'physical laws' and show where you read it.
Do you have sufficient proof and evidence to reject the existence of tom and jerry .m
Define atheism and how the basis of atheism is science.

Cc gisevak
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 9:11am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

Physical laws are rules that describe the behavior of the physical universe. For example the Second Law of Thermodynamics

I don't think you have idea of why you become atheist. You could not even give answers to some simple questions been asked. Are you doing follow follow just like one-eyed man leading the blind I was once an atheist before I changed my perspective. Atheism doesn't make you more woke than others. The world or universe is complex, see it in different angles yourself. Do you know scientists has limited knowledge about what goes on under the ocean or waters?
Yes they have limited knowledge which is being updated daily. It still doesn't make those unknown phenomena supernatural. That's ignorance on your part. Its the same thing we are telling you about humans that worship the sky because they don't know how rain works and thus think there's a god up there giving us water from the sky
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 9:14am On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Theist, we can now see your ignorance in full glare hiding under religion yet pretending.
"grin
I asked you a more simple question, why do rain fall. And you became empty. you are desperate for anything"supernatural", instead of you to use your brain to solve a problem you call it "supernatural".

You were never an atheist, you lack the definition of what atheism is.

Scientists are humans like you, using their brain to know more about nature and not settling for beliefs in the name of supernatural, you are just there to castigate scientist and call what you lack knowledge on "supernatural".], after you call it "supernatural' you stop thinking, that's why europeans are different from africans.
This post deserves more than a like

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 9:39am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

Humanism is a philosophical view bro
Yes, it is. And some atheists hold that view. Some theists hold the view too. So its not strictly atheistic purview. You'll yourself have philosophical views. Every human has his or hers

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 9:41am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:


Don't you think in the future,scientists cannot still get origin of life on Earth?
Dude, I'm not a seer. But I believe in the future, there would be better scientific tools to research the universe, thus throwing more light on origin of life

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 9:45am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

How does the Earth form? Give your theory or you don't have any
Formation. When the solar system settled into its current layout about 4.5 billion years ago, Earth formed when gravity pulled swirling gas and dust in to become the third planet from the Sun. Like its fellow terrestrial planets, Earth has a central core, a rocky mantle, and a solid crust.[i][/i]
From NASA
All these knowledge is in public purview. It's not hidden. Why you choose not to know and decide to tag it supernatural, I would never know

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 9:46am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

But do you know it takes a belief system to actually disbelieved and still keeps to it?
Huh! In English sir
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 9:49am On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

Tell me about your findings that made you change your views to atheism. Is it the Abrahamic Religion? Is it those Scriptures contradictions or illogical concept of hellfire?? grin grin But there are more to this Don't just limit your knowledge to atheism. It is more logical to be agnostic than atheism.
What is logical, saying Jaephoenix isn't sitting on your shoulder OR I dont know if Jaephoenix is sitting on my shoulder? Please answer
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 3:23pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

What is logical, saying Jaephoenix isn't sitting on your shoulder OR I dont know if Jaephoenix is sitting on my shoulder? Please answer
I think this is your alternate account. Some atheists conclusion that there is no god(s) is not logical. It's important to understand that the absence of evidence for something doesn't necessarily prove its nonexistence. Well, if I may ask, what category of atheism are you?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:27pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

I have given you one of the points for agnosticism. We don't have enough knowledge to reject gods existence or any related stuffs. It's not a belief system because we are not dogmatic about views. [b]We don't take science as the only authority in our views [/b]We don't know all about our universe. We seek to know more.
What are the other authorities?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:30pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

Does your scientists claim they have evidence to reject existence of gods?
Are you talking about science itself or the scientists?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:30pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

I am saying we don't have proof to reject existence of gods? Or do you have proofs?
Answer the question about Tom and Jerry, sir
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:31pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

Are you part of atheist that says there is no god??
Looks like your ignorance extends to definitions too. Who is an atheist?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:35pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

I think this is your alternate account. Some atheists conclusion that there is no god(s) is not logical. It's important to understand that the absence of evidence for something doesn't necessarily prove its nonexistence. Well, if I may ask, what category of atheism are you?
E be like your brain dey pain you. Have you checked out both profiles before jumping into your stupid conclusion?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 3:46pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Formation. When the solar system settled into its current layout about 4.5 billion years ago, Earth formed when gravity pulled swirling gas and dust in to become the third planet from the Sun. Like its fellow terrestrial planets, Earth has a central core, a rocky mantle, and a solid crust.[i][/i]
From NASA
All these knowledge is in public purview. It's not hidden. Why you choose not to know and decide to tag it supernatural, I would never know

Well, you see, NASA was probably was there when the universe they had a special deal on 'Planets of the Solar System.'. How did NASA know about this?
grin grin
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by jaephoenix(m): 3:50pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:


Well, you see, NASA was probably was there when the universe they had a special deal on 'Planets of the Solar System.'. How did NASA know about this?
grin grin
Research. How else would they know

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 3:55pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Looks like your ignorance extends to definitions too. Who is an atheist?
What is your view about existence of god
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:09pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Research. How else would they know
So, NASA told you it happened billions of years? What proofs did they carry out that make it that time? How can you tell me about things that happened billions of years with no eye witnesses and the rest. And you believed Smh!!!
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:16pm On Sep 10, 2023
What is your type of atheism?
jaephoenix:

E be like your brain dey pain you. Have you checked out both profiles before jumping into your stupid conclusion?
Don't you build good characters or morality? Why insults? You're taking it too serious.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 4:20pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

So, NASA told you it happened billions of years? What proofs did they carry out that make it that time? How can you tell me about things that happened billions of years with no eye witnesses and the rest. And you believed Smh!!!


According to you.

"important to understand that the absence of evidence for something doesn't necessarily prove its nonexistence."

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Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:42pm On Sep 10, 2023
jaephoenix:

Looks like your ignorance extends to definitions too. Who is an atheist?

What changed your mind to become an atheist? Or you probably were atheist from day one till now? Maybe I could change into atheism.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 4:46pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:


What changed your mind to become an atheist? Or you probably were atheist from day one till now? Maybe I could change into atheism.
Learn the difference between non Belief and Disbelief, then you will know what Atheism is.
You were born with no beliefs
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:50pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Learn the difference between non Belief and Disbelief, then you will know what Atheism is.
You were born with no beliefs
Have you answered my questions?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 4:51pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

Have you answered my questions?
Have you answered mine?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 4:55pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Have you answered mine?
OK, let us do it this way; You ask your question, I answered. And I ask you questions, you answered too. Is that OK by you?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 4:57pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

OK, let us do it this way; You ask your question, I answered. And I ask you questions, you answered too. Is that OK by you?
If you make statements that you just formed up you have to provide evidence for where you get it like "physical laws' those are not questions.

And with that, just stroll the post up you will see my question of tom and jerry and other questions.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 5:02pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

If you make statements that you just formed up you have to provide evidence for where you get it like "physical laws' those are not questions.

And with that, just stroll the post up you will see my question of tom and jerry and other questions.
Physical laws are questions. Ask your question again on Tom and Jerry. And I would reply you
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 5:09pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

Physical laws are questions. Ask your question again on Tom and Jerry. And I would reply you
"Physical laws' is just rambling you form from religion, next thing Is "spiritual law" loll
Scroll up a bit you will see the questions that I have been asking you even before the tom and jerry question, answer them all.
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 5:11pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

"Physical laws' is just rambling you form from religion, next thing Is "spiritual law" loll
Scroll up a bit you will see the questions that I have been asking you even before the tom and jerry question, answer them all.

I said pick one question from mine and answer. And I would do same to yours. Do you agree?
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by Maynman: 5:14pm On Sep 10, 2023
gisevak:

I said pick one question from mine and answer. And I would do same to yours. Do you agree?
I have been asking you those questions since, answer it first, then we will start this
Re: Supernatural Powers Does Not Exist, They Lied To Us. by gisevak: 5:22pm On Sep 10, 2023
Maynman:

Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?

While I understand your point, agnosticism is about acknowledging the limits of human knowledge and being open to the possibility of things we cannot definitively prove or disprove. In the case of Tom and Jerry, they are fictional cartoon characters, and there's no empirical evidence to suggest they exist in the physical world. However, the concept of existence can vary depending on context, belief, or interpretation. Agnosticism doesn't necessarily claim absolute proof of non-existence but rather maintains an open stance, emphasizing the need for empirical evidence when discussing the existence of entities in the material universe.

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