Concerning news that Abuja indigenes are going to court to demand the city be made a State, with a Governor, full compliment of Senators, and House of Rep members, I think this is a waste of time for a number of reasons.

1. No court in the land has the power to change the status of Abuja. It can only be done via a Constitutional amendment.

2. Abuja's current status is not unusual. Washington DC, capital of the USA is in the same situation. It is not one of the 51 States of America. And unlike Abuja that has 1 Senator, Washington DC doesn't even have a Senator. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/DC. Personally, I see no reason why Abuja should not have more Senators and House of Rep members to reflect its increasing population.

3. The Constitution is clear that for the purposes of the 25% votes criterion, Abuja is to be treated as a State. So, it is only in respect of this provision (to avoid a perverse outcome where Abuja indigenes hold a veto over who becomes President) and certain specific provisions that it is to be treated as a State. Abuja is not and cannot be a State. Lawyers should understand basic rules and nuances of legal interpretation. This is Law 101.

4. As a Federal territory, the entire land within Abuja belongs to and is under the exclusive control of the Federal government. This is a constitutional issue. Can you have a State government that has no control over any land? Where will it build its schools, primary health clinics, hospitals, ministries and government offices, roads, house of assembly, courts, and other amenities and how will it make or enforce any law.

5. Most people have read about the chaos that happened when the Federal and Lagos State governments operated from Lagos. Abuja was created to be an exclusive Federal territory in order to avoid those challenges.

Lawyers who put personal gains above professional ethics and edge clients on in pursuit of claims they know have zero chance of success are doing immeasurable damage to the already battered image of the legal profession in this country.

Coming soon after the public humiliation the profession suffered following the exposition of industrial-scale incompetence (senior lawyers making countless basic errors), unprofessionalism (sleeping in your client's matter), the profession should be hiding its head in shame and keeping a low profile right now, rather than embarking on even more self-harm.

Really

Let the ignoramuses keep wallowing in their puddles of ignorance.

DeLaRue:
Concerning news that Abuja indigenes are going to court to demand the city be made a State, with a Governor, full compliment of Senators, and House of Rep members, I think this is a waste of time for a number of reasons.

1. No court in the land has the power to change the status of Abuja. It can only be done via a Constitutional amendment.

2. Abuja's current status is not unusual. Washington DC, capital of the USA is in the same situation. It is not one of the 51 States of America. And unlike Abuja that has 1 Senator, Washington DC doesn't even have a Senator. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/DC

3. The provision of the Constitution is clear that for the purposes of the 25% votes criterion, Abuja is to be treated as a State. So, it is only in respect of this provision and certain other provisions that it is to be treated as a State. Abuja is not a State. Lawyers should understand basic rules and nuances of interpretation. This is Law 101.

4. As a Federal territory, the entire land within the area belongs to and is under the exclusive control of the Federal government. Can you have a State government that has no control over any land? Where will it build its schools, primary health clinics, hospitals, ministries and government offices, roads, house of assembly, courts, and other amenities and how will it make or enforce any law.

5. Most people have read about the chaos that happened when the Federal and Lagos State governments operated from Lagos. Abuja was created to be an exclusive Federal territory to avoid those challenges.

Lawyers who put personal gains above professional ethics and edge clients on in pursuit of claims they know have zero chance of success are doing immeasurable damage to the already battered image of lawyers in this country.

Coming soon after the public humiliation the profession suffered following the exposition of industrial-scale incompetence (senior lawyers making countless basic errors), unprofessionalism (sleeping in your client's matter), the profession should be hiding its head in shame and keeping a low profile, rather than embarking on even more self-harm.

Most you people copy? Can't you have your own life

This Tinubu Supporters and writing rubbish.

Is Nigeria and US using same Constitution?

Did you find it in US Constitution that you must get 25% of 2/3 of the states and Washington DC?

In the US, they have Electoral college votes and popular votes.

These are their Constitutional requirements.

Trump became President by winning electoral college votes despite not losing to Hillary via Popular votes..


Every country has its own Constitution and how their elections ought to be conducted..


As regards this Washington DC that you're running your mouth about, Washington used to be a district in Maryland before it was ceded in 1790.

Ever since it was ceded, the residents lost representation in the Congress.

Did the residents fold their arms about that? NO

In 1801, a meeting of District citizens was held they made a statement of them being completely disfranchised in respect to the national government,.

The referenced their statement to when the US charged against the Great Britain, of being taxed without representation.

After that outcry, in 1812, the District was given more significant rule when the mayor became an elected official, chosen from among the group of 12 elected council members and 8 aldermen, and in 1820 the mayor became directly elected.

So Abuja people pursing for their full representation or their rights is not a crime and you shouldn't engage in gaslighting them because you support Tinubu or because the just concluded Tribunal favoured your god.

As regards this DC stuff, in 1871 it was again dramatically modified, the governor of the District was again appointed by the president.

Even till today, residents and right groups still clamour for statehood for DC. But the lack of statehood for the capital is enshrined in the US Constitution. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17.

So what is this rubbish comparison about?

Solid analysis

Akacollins7:
Most you people copy? Can't you have your own life

Nigerian men covet what the white man has, yet they will tell you they are xtians after breaking the commandment which says thou shalt not covet. They covet the white man’s country, women, goods etc etc. Very disgusting behavior. 🤢 🤮

I actually really don't get it. What's the purpose of Abuja being a state?

DeLaRue I tap from your wisdom... Please tutor this children of NZOGBU NZOGBU headless mobs for us... Nigeria will be great again with PBAT as her President... One 🇳🇬❤️🇳🇬

@Op, You go explain tire ... you said Abuja has the status of a state, yet you want to restrict it to elections only because Tinubu lost there.

Op, a State is a state. If you say it is only for electoral purpose, then you are again conferring it a Special Status. If you say, it is a state like other states, then let them have what others have.
A minister cannot be administering a state.

Please stay with one position, that way, thunder will not miss when it wants to do its needful.

Validated:
@Op, You go explain tire ... you said Abuja has the status of a state, yet you want to restrict it to elections only because Tinubu lost there.

Op, a State is a state. If you say, it is only for electoral purpose, you are again conferring it a Special Status. If you say, it is a state like other states, then let them have what others have.
A minister cannot be administering a state.

Stay with one position, that way, thunder will not miss when it wants to do its needful.

Arguing with you people na waste of time . Sebi una claim before say Abuja people get 2 heads so for a candidate to win Nigeria election, securing 25% in the FCT is a must?

How would this argument different from that?

helinues:


Arguing with you people na waste of time . Sebi una claim before say Abuja people get 2 heads so for a candidate to win Nigeria election, securing 25% in the FCT is a must?

How would this argument different from that?

Hey boy, why are you guys angry that Abuja residents want their own governor now, since they enjoy no special status?

You ma wey get governor do you have two heads abi your own vote pass theirs?

helinues:


Arguing with you people na waste of time . Sebi una claim before say Abuja people get 2 heads so for a candidate to win Nigeria election, securing 25% in the FCT is a must?

How would this argument different from that?

Tell me which state is administered by a Minister.
When Lagos was FCT, did it not have state governors? You want to bend the law because Tinubu lost elections in FCT?
Now canny man dies (PEPC justices), canny man (Abuja resudents) bury am.

Validated:


Tell me which state is administered by a Minister.
When Lagos was FCT, did it not have state governors? You want to bend the law because Tinubu lost elections in FCT?

No mind the werey

Other Nigerians don't have two heads, since they can elect governor's and senators, since there's no special status attributed to Abuja citizens they also have right to vote their Governors and senators, as they can't be inferior to other Nigerians, What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

Landowner101:
Other Nigerians don't have two heads, since they can elect governor's and senators, since there's no special status attributed to Abuja citizens they also have right to vote their Governors and senators, as they can't be inferior to other Nigerians, What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

It is a very simple matter. I dont know why they convulsing upon realising the effect of a Supreme Court precedent.

Validated:
@Op, You go explain tire ... you said Abuja has the status of a state, yet you want to restrict it to elections only because Tinubu lost there. Op, a State is a state.

If you say it is only for electoral purpose, then you are again conferring it a Special Status. If you say, it is a state like other states, then let them have what others have. A minister cannot be administering a state.Please stay with one position, that way, thunder will not miss when it wants to do its needful.

Sometime one wonder why the good Lord put us humanity with different worldviews in the same place but he does that for reasons best known to him. Imagine people turning logic on its head and want you to accept same.

Philgafauto:


It is a very simple matter. I dont know why they convulsing upon realising the effect of a Supreme Court precedent.

They are actually hypocrites, they know the truth

helinues:


Arguing with you people na waste of time . Sebi una claim before say Abuja people get 2 heads so for a candidate to win Nigeria election, securing 25% in the FCT is a must?

How would this argument different from that?

Do you want to work for me?

HarryGleb:
Do you want to work for me?

Stop being incoherent. You have been trolling me for years with nothing less than thousands of monikers, yes thousands, over 5 years trolling yet na me no get job. Make you self reason am logically, how can someone who is productive be engaging in the futile efforts below, not even the wiped ones which sometimes they could be 3-4 pages. So you will waste time to first create disposable email, then register on NL for code before doing the trolling and in all, na second it dey take mods to wipe everything away.

Bro, walahi if I were you, I would be busy searching for a meaningful life that's devoid of wasting life and time away trolling others just because they are not supporting what you are supporting.

Do you need a herbalist to tell you lots are wrong?

helinues:


Stop being incoherent. You have been trolling me for years with nothing less than thousands of monikers, yes thousands, over 5 years trolling yet na me no get job. Make you self reason am logically, how can someone who is productive be engaging in the futile efforts below, not even the wiped ones which sometimes they could be 3-4 pages. So you will waste time to first create disposable email, then register on NL for code before doing the trolling and in all, na second it dey take mods to wipe everything away.

Bro, walahi if I were you, I would be busy searching for a meaningful life that's devoid of wasting life and time away trolling others just because they are not supporting what you are supporting.

Do you need a herbalist to tell you lots are wrong?

Why I'm doing this is because I want you to be engaged and useful. I want you to succeed in life.

HarryGleb:
Why I'm doing this is because I want you to be engaged and useful. I want you to succeed in life.

Have you been successful in life to start with? If the answer is No, shouldn't you be concerned about your own life so that you can succeed.

I have been asking you for some times to tell us the name of the rich man from your village who made his money by trolling others.

You are yet to know the psychological effects of this your activities on this forum, in 5 years to come, you go shed tears for wasting the time you could have used to do something meaningful.

Mods would soon ban this moniker, then you switch to new one and repeat same thrash over and over again.

I pity you in advance. Walahi no be mouth LG here. Imagine taking 2 hours drive to go eat Amala and ponmo to muta just yesterday, Sunday...

Hahahahaha Check my sig Wella, we hustle with no muscle, o ti pe ta tin ka millions, aje.

I don't know why Agbadonians wants to eat their cakes and have them.
Tribunal has ruled that Abuja is not different from every other state in Nigeria.
Then the Abuja Original Inhabitants banking on that judgement wants Abuja to have a governor (not minister), House of Assemble ( not national assemble) and you are crying foul.
I support the indigenous inhabitants of FCT in their demand

The comparison is baseless since one nation practices democracy and the other claims to do so. Anyone can aspire to serve anywhere in the US as long as you have fulfilled all conditions of citizenship, whether the bones of your forefathers are buried there or not. As the Yoruba & most recently the Fulani have declared in Lagos & Illorin respectively, birth and economic contributions have no say in how/where you choose to serve! The indigenes of Abuja can never aspire to any of the legislative chambers of the nation, nor have a say in who governs their ancestral lands. Which is a great disservice to them. Saying they shouldn’t seek redress in court smacks of either immaturity or a perverted mind!

helinues:


Have you been successful in life to start with? If the answer is No, shouldn't you be concerned about your own life so that you can succeed.

I have been asking you for some times to tell us the name of the rich man from your village who made his money by trolling others.

You are yet to know the psychological effects of this your activities on this forum, in 5 years to come, you go shed tears for wasting the time you could have used to do something meaningful.

Mods would soon ban this moniker, then you switch to new one and repeat same thrash over and over again.

I pity you in advance. Walahi no be mouth LG here. Imagine taking 2 hours drive to go eat Amala and ponmo to muta just yesterday, Sunday...

Hahahahaha Check my sig Wella, we hustle with no muscle, o ti pe ta tin ka millions, aje.

Is that why you sleep and wake up on nairaland? Get a job and leave your parents house ok.

Oponu, does the USA, Hav a drug baron sitting as a president in the white house?

Do they have corrupt electoral umpire and morally corupt judges twisting the constitution despite glaring evidences just to favor their paymaster and make a fool of the citizens?

Just like I have said

FCT should be renamed and given a statehood.

Abuja should be incorporated from FCT. That will make more sense.

You cannot have a landmass of 7000k and call it a country’s capital. It’s so huge

DeLaRue:
Concerning news that Abuja indigenes are going to court to demand the city be made a State, with a Governor, full compliment of Senators, and House of Rep members, I think this is a waste of time for a number of reasons.

1. No court in the land has the power to change the status of Abuja. It can only be done via a Constitutional amendment.

2. Abuja's current status is not unusual. Washington DC, capital of the USA is in the same situation. It is not one of the 51 States of America. And unlike Abuja that has 1 Senator, Washington DC doesn't even have a Senator. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/DC. Personally, I see no reason why Abuja should not have more Senators and House of Rep members to reflect its increasing population.

3. The Constitution is clear that for the purposes of the 25% votes criterion, Abuja is to be treated as a State. So, it is only in respect of this provision (to avoid a perverse outcome where Abuja indigenes hold a veto over who becomes President) and certain specific provisions that it is to be treated as a State. Abuja is not and cannot be a State. Lawyers should understand basic rules and nuances of legal interpretation. This is Law 101.

4. As a Federal territory, the entire land within Abuja belongs to and is under the exclusive control of the Federal government. This is a constitutional issue. Can you have a State government that has no control over any land? Where will it build its schools, primary health clinics, hospitals, ministries and government offices, roads, house of assembly, courts, and other amenities and how will it make or enforce any law.

5. Most people have read about the chaos that happened when the Federal and Lagos State governments operated from Lagos. Abuja was created to be an exclusive Federal territory in order to avoid those challenges.

Lawyers who put personal gains above professional ethics and edge clients on in pursuit of claims they know have zero chance of success are doing immeasurable damage to the already battered image of the legal profession in this country.

Coming soon after the public humiliation the profession suffered following the exposition of industrial-scale incompetence (senior lawyers making countless basic errors), unprofessionalism (sleeping in your client's matter), the profession should be hiding its head in shame and keeping a low profile right now, rather than embarking on even more self-harm.

One can be sure their lawyers will be the usual unprofessional charge and bail Obidients mofos. Those so-called 'indigenes' may even be Ibo arrogantly and flagrantly usurping the rights of the indigenous people.

This comparison is baseless and unreasonable because USA is not Nigeria in all things except the so called democracy. Now a state in USA is like country in Africa. Even at that you can’t twist your analysis to suit your ambition because you on the other side.
I know that our judiciary lost its credibility, the legislative arm cannot give a reasonable legislation that will be beneficial to the mass for instance to legislate on cutting down cost of governance, death sentences on all corrupt individuals like China. They can’t make such decisions talk more of given FCT their political entities since the ruling regards FCT as normal state.
If you want to treat FCT as any state then give them their own political structure. As for me a middle belter, let’s divide this country into 5. Enough is Enough

Gossiphub:
This Tinubu Supporters and writing rubbish.

Is Nigeria and US using same Constitution?

Did you find it in US Constitution that you must get 25% of 2/3 of the states and Washington DC?

In the US, they have Electoral college votes and popular votes.

These are their Constitutional requirements.

Trump became President by winning electoral college votes despite not losing to Hillary via Popular votes..


Every country has its own Constitution and how their elections ought to be conducted..


As regards this Washington DC that you're running your mouth about, Washington used to be a district in Maryland before it was ceded in 1790.

Ever since it was ceded, the residents lost representation in the Congress.

Did the residents fold their arms about that? NO

In 1801, a meeting of District citizens was held they made a statement of them being completely disfranchised in respect to the national government,.

The referenced their statement to when the US charged against the Great Britain, of being taxed without representation.

After that outcry, in 1812, the District was given more significant rule when the mayor became an elected official, chosen from among the group of 12 elected council members and 8 aldermen, and in 1820 the mayor became directly elected.

So Abuja people pursing for their full representation or their rights is not a crime and you shouldn't engage in gaslighting them because you support Tinubu or because the just concluded Tribunal favoured your god.

As regards this DC stuff, in 1871 it was again dramatically modified, the governor of the District was again appointed by the president.

Even till today, residents and right groups still clamour for statehood for DC. But the lack of statehood for the capital is enshrined in the US Constitution. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17.

So what is this rubbish comparison about?

Trash and rubbish