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Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 10:46am On Sep 12, 2023 |
ErnestNc: In simple terms, their GODS housed in Warwick hold them hostage with a belief they inherited from their founding father Russell. 9 Postponed expectations. We naturally long for the good things that Jehovah has promised. In fact, when Jehovah’s prophet Habakkuk expressed a yearning for Jehovah to bring an end to the wicked conditions in Judah, Jehovah instructed him to “keep in expectation.” (Hab. 2:3) However, when the fulfillment of our expectations appears to be delayed, it may dampen our enthusiasm. We could even lose heart. (Prov. 13:12) This happened at the beginning of the 20th century. At that time, many anointed Christians expected to receive their heavenly reward in 1914. When that did not happen, how did faithful ones deal with their delayed expectations? At that time, many anointed Christians expected to receive their heavenly reward in 1914. I have repeatedly asked them Who promised them reward in 1914? Who delayed their reward in 1914? Obviously no Bible verse can be used to respond to that question. In reality they were all promises of man starting with Russell down to their present GODS 4 Likes
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Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by ErnestNc: 11:33am On Sep 12, 2023 |
achorladey: No JW member has been able to answer these questions concerning the controversial 1914. When you ask them to provide answers, they become terribly confused , as some would feign deafness just to evade being scrutinised. Others may try to twist scriptures so they can come up with another gibberish ... It could also be true and might have been a Jesus Apostle Paul or Peter doesn't know about . It's the likes of Cornelboy n Maxindhouse going from house to house to teach people these heretical doctrines. 4 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
ErnestNc: Go and prove to a Jew that Jesus is the Christ first before coming to argue about 1914. The name written in the scriptures is Emmanuel so when anyone say Jesus is the Christ what evidence do you have? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 12:29pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: So he should prove to the Jews first. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The name written in the scriptures is Emmanuel so when anyone say Jesus is the Christ what evidence do you have? Jesus Himself said He is the Christ. The same Jesus also said "What His presence will be like: "27 For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence* of the Son of man will be. 37 For just as the days of Noah were,+ so the presence* of the Son of man will be." Matt 24:27,37 - NWT So where did JWs get 1914 from? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 12:39pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan: We should not expect nothing less from the person who says anyone that can defend his belief is a Jehovah’s witness. When asked are Muslims then Jehovah’s witnesses, he ran away as usual ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() When cornered, they start looking for all sort of comparison and contrast as defense mechanism. His lying and manipulating brains didn't tell him that during the time of the disciples after the death of Jesus, there were many Jews who accepted Jesus Christ and were baptized and up till today there are Jews who are Christians 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 12:43pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Escape route as usual. Paul and the rest that later accepted Jesus are Jews or not? ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 12:49pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
achorladey: Very shameless person. You caught him in his own lies, he tries to run to another corner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() At the initial stage of this thread, he wanted to lie about COMING and when I quoted Matt 24:27,37 from his own translation where PRESENCE was used. He changed gear again ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You claimed 1914 is about JESUS invisible PRESENCE and Jesus Christ Himself said His PRESENCE will be like shinning lightning and Noah's day which means nobody will deny it. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 12:50pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
achorladey: No! They were Nigerians no Jew ever believe that Jesus is the Christ. Only JWs will proof to Jews that Jesus is the Christ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 12:55pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan: 2 Likes
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Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:19pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan:And the Jews killed him with all his disciples so what other evidence do you have to convince a Jew that Jesus is the Christ apart from what he and his disciples have to say? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:21pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan: Jesus' disciples were like moRons in the eyes of first century Jews and till today 99% of Jews don't believe that Jesus is the Christ. Do you know why? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 1:26pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: But they were JEWS and till today there are still Christians in Jewish community. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 1:28pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: The truth is Jesus Himself said He is the Christ. The question here is where did 1914 appear in the scripture? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:34pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan: Good! So if you don't believe in 1914 individuals from different parts of the earth believe just as few Jews believe that Jesus whose name wasn't found in their scriptures is Christ. Therefore it's not compulsory that you believe if you can't convince all Jews that their brother Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:35pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan: Where did the name JESUS appear in the Old Testament? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 1:37pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan: Or where Jesus said he is coming or present invisibly in 1914? ![]() ![]() ![]() The liar and manipulator wants to save his head and face and that of HIS GODS by all MEANS. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 1:43pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan: See as he divert into the Jews killed Jesus. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 1:48pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: False equivalence at best ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Believing in Jesus leads people to salvation based on the Bible you carry. Believing in 1914 has nothing to do with salvation and not supported from the Bible you carry ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:59pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Faithless miscreants everywhere! ![]() If 99% of Jews till today debunked Jesus of Nazareth simply because they can't find his name written in their scriptures as the coming Messiah then it simply means only faithful people who are mindful of prophecies found in the scriptures can grasp the times and seasons of it's fulfilment. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 2:05pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: The liar and manipulator peddling faithless miscreant, stupidity and insanities forgets in his Bible I tell you, the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation that will produce the proper fruit. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He even started the words with if assumption, speculations and manipulations filled belief system. ![]() Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you build the graves of the prophets and decorate the tombs of the righteous ones, and you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have shared with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ Therefore, you are testifying against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Well, then, fill up the measure of your forefathers. “Serpents, offspring of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of Ge·henʹna? For this reason, I am sending to you prophets and wise men and public instructors. Some of them you will kill and execute on stakes, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, so that there may come upon you all the righteous blood spilled on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zech·a·riʹah son of Bar·a·chiʹah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name!’” 2 Likes |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 5:29pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: The name Jesus was given to the baby boy born by Mary! Where is 1914 appear in the Bible? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 5:33pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Which means 1914 isn't scriptural. So if you don't believe in 1914 individuals from different parts of the earth believe Of course you can believe anything even the demons believe too but can you prove where God says so? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() just as few Jews believe that Jesus whose name wasn't found in their scriptures is Christ. Jesus said HE IS THE CHRIST! TRUE OR FASLE? So we only need to believe Jesus and not what others believe about Him. Therefore it's not compulsory that you believe if you can't convince all Jews that their brother Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ! I don't need to believe you but I will need to believe Jesus Himself. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 5:39pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Brainless Hallgoer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If 99% of Jews till today debunked Jesus of Nazareth simply because they can't find his name written in their scriptures as the coming Messiah Your belief isn't clung to WHAT PEOPLE believe about Jesus Christ but WHAT JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF says. What did the Jesus Christ say about His PRESENCE? then it simply means only faithful people who are mindful of prophecies found in the scriptures can grasp the times and seasons of it's fulfilment. Jesus says ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS about His second coming. JESUS Himself says just as the lightning shines from east to west (nothing hiding from human) so also is His presence will be Matt 24:27,37. Where did Jesus talk about 1914 OR 1914 not about Jesus presence again? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:13pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan:You believe Jesus! ![]() Because British colonials forced their religion on your ancestors nah. Had it been you were to study the Bible on your own and use this same mindset to think about everything ọmọ you no go claim all these credulity! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:16pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan:If not for the global campaign of Jehovah's Witnesses as evidence of a prince of peace {Act 1:8} there's nothing to believe about a first century Jewish man who was killed by his own people like a common criminal! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 6:33pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
Emusan: After all the Father bore witness about Jesus ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 6:36pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Before anything called Jehovah’s witnesses came into existence many already know what bearing witness about Jesus Christ meant. ![]() ![]() ![]() Whatever you typed are the lies, manipulations and insanities peddling you love to do on nairaland 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by achorladey: 6:39pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Manipulator and liar, your ancestors that initially accepted Islam were heaven dwellers ![]() ![]() ![]() Hooked and hanged on his point and beliefs ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 6:47pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Yes! Jesus never says anything about 1914. Because British colonials forced their religion on your ancestors nah. Just as it was force on Russell and you ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Had it been you were to study the Bible on your own and use this same mindset to think about everything ọmọ you no go claim all these credulity! I will, the evidence that Jews believed Jesus as the Christ today is there. So don't change mouth. 1914 isn't in the scripture, if you think otherwise provide the verse ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 6:49pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: So what happened when the JWs was not global? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I know you want to change the narrative but I won't allow you. What did Jesus say about His Presence according to the scripture? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 6:50pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
achorladey: Even the Holy Spirit wasn't left behind in the witness ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Told Jehovah Witness That Jesus Returned In 1914? by Emusan(m): 6:51pm On Sep 12, 2023 |
achorladey: Even the same religion was force on Russell according to his claim. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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