MimiSheWrote: Not like it matters, but I live outside which doesn't limit my understanding of the situation in my home country(Nigeria) You don't need to experience a bone fracture to know what it feels like.
Go preach to them in that Plateau community where they are about to bury ten people en-masse, see if they don't stone you to death. Or go to southern Kaduna. For most people leaving is more about security of life and property, and not about money.
MimiSheWrote: Hello Everyone, first of all I apologize in advance for the long note and also about my English, not actually my first language.
My name is Mimi, I was born in Nigeria... But cos of the nature of my dad's profession i have spent around 75% of my life in different countries outside Nigeria... Mostly in EU.
Well enough said about myself, cos this topic is not about me but about Nigerians... Our general mentality and perception of abroad.
Guys listen up... All that glitters is not really gold. Out there is not entirely what people think it is. And you might think just because I have spent so much time outside Nigeria i do not understand the struggle in Nigeria and therefore not qualified to tell you all this "nonsense"..... I completely get it.. trust me.
But even a random 3 years old kid knows that the country is messed up and nothing to write home about, we all know about the Suffering, depression and "starvation level of poverty" in Nigeria yeah.... That's why everyone is desperatly looking for a way out, no doubt... but trust me, JAPA is not 'always' your ticket out of poverty... Well 'sometimes' it is... but most times it's just your direct ticket to being subjected to racism,more depression,more struggles,several mental disorder,homelessness, modern day slavery and the list goes on and on.
Trust me... when it comes to hustling field, success is much more louder than failure. cos our mind was designed to constantly search for hope. which means you would quickly hear about the lucky 3% that made it big through JAPA, but hardly hear about the remaining unlucky 97% that found themselves in worse possible condition after the same JAPA. There's no money tree out here... there's no diamond river out here... Is there more opportunities? Well yes, But there are millions of people that already done and still doing whatever you intend to come do over here and yet they are still in the worse condition than you are in right now.
You would literally cry when you see what most of our African brothers and sisters go through around the world in the name of Japa. And as a Nigerian?? Trust me it gets worse.. and your chances gets even much smaller. Cos no one trust Nigerians anymore any where around the world and I believe we all know why.
Sorry but I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, kill anyone's vibe or being a negative biitch! Naaaah I'm only trying to be realistic! I'm only trying to tell you something no travel agent would ever tell you and something people abroad hardly tell you, and even when they eventually do tell you...? You don't believe them.. instead you result to asking them questions like "why are they still there if it's that bad"? .....
Well.... You wanna know why most of them are still there? Let me tell you why... there is a psychological reason for that... First They are still in DENIAL. Imagine dreaming your entire life to travel abroad and finally have a good life, you probably invested almost everything or everything you have got to make it happen (your money, your time, your last hope) But then you finally got there and then meet a reality that is entirely different from your life long dreams and perception of these faraway green lands? I don't know if you know... but our brain is defensive in nature, it will automatically switch straight to denial mode... Leaving you with atleast enough 'hope and wait for a magic or should i say a miracle' (afterall this is abroad where magic happens?) This is just one of the reasons why most of these people continue sticking around instead of returning home.
Another reason is that they are worried about what people back home would say or think... Because the people back home also got this general fvcked up mentality and very high expectation of people coming back from Japa (y'all need to stop it! Y'all need to get rid of that mentality, seriously ) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place... It needs to stop, yall driving the youth nuts with such mentality, it's doing more harm than good. That high expectation/ pressure back home is mostly the reason our people are more likely to result to crime out here (so just stop it! )
I have met alot of other African nationalities abroad... and amazingly they don't share the same mentality we have about Abroad. They treat abroad as just another hustling ground and not a direct ticket to success... Therefore they are more relaxed and less pressured than Nigerians out here.
Moving Abroad is not such a bad idea though, it worked and still works for few lucky ones (including my Family) it would be wrong and biased of me if I fail to mention that.. There are plenty of and more opportunities over out here not doubt... But what I'm just saying is that... it's not always that easily reached.. as most people automatically believe. Look... Somehow all these countries are intelligently designed In such a way that it take back almost entirely everything you make out here from you one way or the other... Through tax, through mind blowing bills or random expenses around every corner.
And at the end of the day you realize you are nothing but a modern day slave building someone's country for free... And without freedom.
Most people screaming Japa in Nigeria are far in better living condition and more stable mentally ,more happy than majority of people in the so called abroad without even knowing it. Sometimes Instead of gambling and betting your hard earned million of naira on Japa, it's more advisable to chill out... relax and invest that Millions in Nigeria. I'm just saying... You would probably end up living a life most people over there can only envy and dream of.
Thanks for reading my long note... I hope this helps someone in making a life decision out there. #ItsYourGurlMimi W ow congratulations I live this.I want you to be my mentor Lift me out of poverty. Empower me let me be the example of what you preach I want to stay in naija #080#345959#85# I will be the happiest man in Earth It take someone to lift somebody out of poverty
MimiSheWrote: As expected... There's would always be that one guy. #Sighs
Sir I'm certain you didn't read my entire note, or you simply don't get my point. I'm not telling anyone not to Japa, it's a free world... I'm only revealing the dark side of the moon, Which everyone deserve to know about too atleast before making a life decision. What's not fair is basing your decision entirely only on the bright side of the moon. I'm not wicked sir... And never will.
As Expected how? ... Thats a mentality or mindset of "as long as you are in Nigeria, anyone giving advise as this from outside has more superior understanding of how things work" - I reject this and can be linked to Nigerians that Japa like 10yrs ago, definitely NOT the ones leaving the country say in the last 3yrs
Many of Nigerians thats left lately are well informed and as a matter of fact well grounded, many had businesses, well skilled and the last election was what broke the camels back in their choices of relocation - Some even were working overseas from Nigeria.
I think your advise would be stale to majority of people who intend to actually Japa these days.
Comparing the dark there and Nigeria would have made a better post
do you pay police directly on the road abroad? do you buy fuel for generator? do you pay vigilante where you live? i pay OSPAC in rivers state do you pump water from the ground? did you dig borehole? do you buy 'sanitation bucket' when you run your business? my sister, do you know that prostitutes are charging N500 short time? you are a woman, do you think its okay for a woman to sell her body for N500? less than $1 are you advising that person to stay back in Nigeria? or be aware of 'the dark side of the moon' before travelling? what could be worse than what she's already going through in Nigeria
do you know that there are Nigerians in foreign prisons who are comfortable compared to their lives in Nigeria? because they eat 3 times a day in the prison!!!
12inchess: Me I have stopped advicing anyone because they will never hear word. Everybody should do whatever they like. Husband will be working in GTB Bank as a Manager. Maybe wife is working in one good job too in Corporate Nigeria. Typical High-Middle Class family with Teenage kids or kids that are about 8years to 10 years. Rather than think of how to capitalize on their gains, they will now sell all their property and come and "hustle' abroad. Can you tell me which hustle they want to start doing abroad at 40 to 50 years of age? Why not.look for money to send your kids to come school abroad? The risk to reward ratio is just too high if they fail. Japa may not work for you. Now what?
Atleast if you must Japa eventually do it legally and not through visiting visa,or other shady means.
I wonder how many of these Japareians think of pension and their old age. Most people in the western world should have a good pension for their old age .If you are Japaring at age 40- 50, you have nothing. If your pension is property back home, then why bother selling all in the first place to Japa? High risk, low reward!
Mimi, the difference is opportunities. #You'renotourGurlMimi
MimiSheWrote: Hello Everyone, first of all I apologize in advance for the long note and also about my English, not actually my first language.
My name is Mimi, I was born in Nigeria... But cos of the nature of my dad's profession i have spent around 75% of my life in different countries outside Nigeria... Mostly in EU.
Well enough said about myself, cos this topic is not about me but about Nigerians... Our general mentality and perception of abroad.
Guys listen up... All that glitters is not really gold. Out there is not entirely what people think it is. And you might think just because I have spent so much time outside Nigeria i do not understand the struggle in Nigeria and therefore not qualified to tell you all this "nonsense"..... I completely get it.. trust me.
But even a random 3 years old kid knows that the country is messed up and nothing to write home about, we all know about the Suffering, depression and "starvation level of poverty" in Nigeria yeah.... That's why everyone is desperatly looking for a way out, no doubt... but trust me, JAPA is not 'always' your ticket out of poverty... Well 'sometimes' it is... but most times it's just your direct ticket to being subjected to racism,more depression,more struggles,several mental disorder,homelessness, modern day slavery and the list goes on and on.
Trust me... when it comes to hustling field, success is much more louder than failure. cos our mind was designed to constantly search for hope. which means you would quickly hear about the lucky 3% that made it big through JAPA, but hardly hear about the remaining unlucky 97% that found themselves in worse possible condition after the same JAPA. There's no money tree out here... there's no diamond river out here... Is there more opportunities? Well yes, But there are millions of people that already done and still doing whatever you intend to come do over here and yet they are still in the worse condition than you are in right now.
You would literally cry when you see what most of our African brothers and sisters go through around the world in the name of Japa. And as a Nigerian?? Trust me it gets worse.. and your chances gets even much smaller. Cos no one trust Nigerians anymore any where around the world and I believe we all know why.
Sorry but I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, kill anyone's vibe or being a negative biitch! Naaaah I'm only trying to be realistic! I'm only trying to tell you something no travel agent would ever tell you and something people abroad hardly tell you, and even when they eventually do tell you...? You don't believe them.. instead you result to asking them questions like "why are they still there if it's that bad"? .....
Well.... You wanna know why most of them are still there? Let me tell you why... there is a psychological reason for that... First They are still in DENIAL. Imagine dreaming your entire life to travel abroad and finally have a good life, you probably invested almost everything or everything you have got to make it happen (your money, your time, your last hope) But then you finally got there and then meet a reality that is entirely different from your life long dreams and perception of these faraway green lands? I don't know if you know... but our brain is defensive in nature, it will automatically switch straight to denial mode... Leaving you with atleast enough 'hope and wait for a magic or should i say a miracle' (afterall this is abroad where magic happens?) This is just one of the reasons why most of these people continue sticking around instead of returning home.
Another reason is that they are worried about what people back home would say or think... Because the people back home also got this general fvcked up mentality and very high expectation of people coming back from Japa (y'all need to stop it! Y'all need to get rid of that mentality, seriously ) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place... It needs to stop, yall driving the youth nuts with such mentality, it's doing more harm than good. That high expectation/ pressure back home is mostly the reason our people are more likely to result to crime out here (so just stop it! )
I have met alot of other African nationalities abroad... and amazingly they don't share the same mentality we have about Abroad. They treat abroad as just another hustling ground and not a direct ticket to success... Therefore they are more relaxed and less pressured than Nigerians out here.
Moving Abroad is not such a bad idea though, it worked and still works for few lucky ones (including my Family) it would be wrong and biased of me if I fail to mention that.. There are plenty of and more opportunities over out here not doubt... But what I'm just saying is that... it's not always that easily reached.. as most people automatically believe. Look... Somehow all these countries are intelligently designed In such a way that it take back almost entirely everything you make out here from you one way or the other... Through tax, through mind blowing bills or random expenses around every corner.
And at the end of the day you realize you are nothing but a modern day slave building someone's country for free... And without freedom.
Most people screaming Japa in Nigeria are far in better living condition and more stable mentally ,more happy than majority of people in the so called abroad without even knowing it. Sometimes Instead of gambling and betting your hard earned million of naira on Japa, it's more advisable to chill out... relax and invest that Millions in Nigeria. I'm just saying... You would probably end up living a life most people over there can only envy and dream of.
Thanks for reading my long note... I hope this helps someone in making a life decision out there. #ItsYourGurlMimi
Some one up there called her stupid for this write up and as usual the angry Nigerians come out in numbers to attack poster for this topic.
Very well written topic, everything written up there is true. In case you are wondering, yes I am currently living in Nigeria and couldn't be any happier than I was when living in the UK. Everything is different and better for ME here in Nigeria, lets start from the very beginning.
Healthcare - I was left for dead in a London hospital, thank God I survived. I survived not because of better healthcare but because of a kind doctor who decided to investigate the medical problem further when everyone else gave up.
Kids - I was lucky to be able to have children following the medical negligence thanks to God and to a Nigerian DR.
Security - Cars were stolen in my neighbourhood on a daily basics and it is still happening, by the time you wake up, your car is already in eastern Europe - long gone. Thank God for insurance which will however take 5months to pay out and only a percentage of the car amount. My friend's house was broken into last month, his dogs scared the thieves away however goods worth almost £1K was taken in less than 2 minutes. NO - I was not living in barking or Peckham, I was living in NW London and house on my street are worth £900K and above at that time.
Electricity - Gas, Electricity, Car and Water monthly cost £650.
Money - what everyone has been waiting to hear. I used to earn a very good wage but I worked 60hrs per week. My take home after tax was plus overtime was £4100 however my bills and mortgage was £2450 monthly. I had no time for my kid, my poor child didn't get to see me at all. Childcare cost was £850 per month and I was very lucky.
Mental Wellbeing - What life will I have after working 60hrs from Mon-Friday and Saturday morning. I couldn't do anything for I was physically and mentally exhausted. Depression began to kick in as all I did was work, Relationship - what is that and where is the time for that? Home training - How do I train my child when I am working, at least I could afford a nanny. I began to dream of a better life for myself, a life where I could live and enjoy it not just exist. Africa suddenly became more attractive as it is the only place where I wouldn't have to work like a crazy person, they said US is worst. I worked as a senior nurse just for the record on a £70000 annual salary
My people I started to plan ooooo, I failed on my first try at relocating because life was so hard and stressful in Lagos. Second time round, I saved money for 5 years, yes 5 good years and invested well. Now I can happily say I am living my best life in Nigeria, we go back to the UK for vacation during the holidays. God willing if business remains good, I will use money made in naira to buy my house in the UK.
Moral of this story, as there are people dreaming to japa abroad, there are so many also dreaming to japa to Nigeria / Africa.
MimiSheWrote: Hello Everyone, first of all I apologize in advance for the long note and also about my English, not actually my first language.
My name is Mimi, I was born in Nigeria... But cos of the nature of my dad's profession i have spent around 75% of my life in different countries outside Nigeria... Mostly in EU.
Well enough said about myself, cos this topic is not about me but about Nigerians... Our general mentality and perception of abroad.
Guys listen up... All that glitters is not really gold. Out there is not entirely what people think it is. And you might think just because I have spent so much time outside Nigeria i do not understand the struggle in Nigeria and therefore not qualified to tell you all this "nonsense"..... I completely get it.. trust me.
But even a random 3 years old kid knows that the country is messed up and nothing to write home about, we all know about the Suffering, depression and "starvation level of poverty" in Nigeria yeah.... That's why everyone is desperatly looking for a way out, no doubt... but trust me, JAPA is not 'always' your ticket out of poverty... Well 'sometimes' it is... but most times it's just your direct ticket to being subjected to racism,more depression,more struggles,several mental disorder,homelessness, modern day slavery and the list goes on and on.
Trust me... when it comes to hustling field, success is much more louder than failure. cos our mind was designed to constantly search for hope. which means you would quickly hear about the lucky 3% that made it big through JAPA, but hardly hear about the remaining unlucky 97% that found themselves in worse possible condition after the same JAPA. There's no money tree out here... there's no diamond river out here... Is there more opportunities? Well yes, But there are millions of people that already done and still doing whatever you intend to come do over here and yet they are still in the worse condition than you are in right now.
You would literally cry when you see what most of our African brothers and sisters go through around the world in the name of Japa. And as a Nigerian?? Trust me it gets worse.. and your chances gets even much smaller. Cos no one trust Nigerians anymore any where around the world and I believe we all know why.
Sorry but I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, kill anyone's vibe or being a negative biitch! Naaaah I'm only trying to be realistic! I'm only trying to tell you something no travel agent would ever tell you and something people abroad hardly tell you, and even when they eventually do tell you...? You don't believe them.. instead you result to asking them questions like "why are they still there if it's that bad"? .....
Well.... You wanna know why most of them are still there? Let me tell you why... there is a psychological reason for that... First They are still in DENIAL. Imagine dreaming your entire life to travel abroad and finally have a good life, you probably invested almost everything or everything you have got to make it happen (your money, your time, your last hope) But then you finally got there and then meet a reality that is entirely different from your life long dreams and perception of these faraway green lands? I don't know if you know... but our brain is defensive in nature, it will automatically switch straight to denial mode... Leaving you with atleast enough 'hope and wait for a magic or should i say a miracle' (afterall this is abroad where magic happens?) This is just one of the reasons why most of these people continue sticking around instead of returning home.
Another reason is that they are worried about what people back home would say or think... Because the people back home also got this general fvcked up mentality and very high expectation of people coming back from Japa (y'all need to stop it! Y'all need to get rid of that mentality, seriously ) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place... It needs to stop, yall driving the youth nuts with such mentality, it's doing more harm than good. That high expectation/ pressure back home is mostly the reason our people are more likely to result to crime out here (so just stop it! )
I have met alot of other African nationalities abroad... and amazingly they don't share the same mentality we have about Abroad. They treat abroad as just another hustling ground and not a direct ticket to success... Therefore they are more relaxed and less pressured than Nigerians out here.
Moving Abroad is not such a bad idea though, it worked and still works for few lucky ones (including my Family) it would be wrong and biased of me if I fail to mention that.. There are plenty of and more opportunities over out here not doubt... But what I'm just saying is that... it's not always that easily reached.. as most people automatically believe. Look... Somehow all these countries are intelligently designed In such a way that it take back almost entirely everything you make out here from you one way or the other... Through tax, through mind blowing bills or random expenses around every corner.
And at the end of the day you realize you are nothing but a modern day slave building someone's country for free... And without freedom.
Most people screaming Japa in Nigeria are far in better living condition and more stable mentally ,more happy than majority of people in the so called abroad without even knowing it. Sometimes Instead of gambling and betting your hard earned million of naira on Japa, it's more advisable to chill out... relax and invest that Millions in Nigeria. I'm just saying... You would probably end up living a life most people over there can only envy and dream of.
Thanks for reading my long note... I hope this helps someone in making a life decision out there. #ItsYourGurlMimi
Come back to Nigeria and live permanently and stop dishing out STUPID advice!!! That's how you people behave. You'll be outside Nigeria and be saying trash! If you can't come back to Nigeria to stay, then shut the bleep up!!!
People who japa through corner corner, plan to stay illegally, they usually have a worse fate than staying in Nigeria.
However, people who japa properly, especially if semi skilled or skilled, are much better off outside Nigeria.
Bear in mind that some professions, like law, are easier for nigerians practising in Nigeria.
One compromise is remote workers.
MimiSheWrote: Hello Everyone, first of all I apologize in advance for the long note and also about my English, not actually my first language.
My name is Mimi, I was born in Nigeria... But cos of the nature of my dad's profession i have spent around 75% of my life in different countries outside Nigeria... Mostly in EU.
Well enough said about myself, cos this topic is not about me but about Nigerians... Our general mentality and perception of abroad.
Guys listen up... All that glitters is not really gold. Out there is not entirely what people think it is. And you might think just because I have spent so much time outside Nigeria i do not understand the struggle in Nigeria and therefore not qualified to tell you all this "nonsense"..... I completely get it.. trust me.
But even a random 3 years old kid knows that the country is messed up and nothing to write home about, we all know about the Suffering, depression and "starvation level of poverty" in Nigeria yeah.... That's why everyone is desperatly looking for a way out, no doubt... but trust me, JAPA is not 'always' your ticket out of poverty... Well 'sometimes' it is... but most times it's just your direct ticket to being subjected to racism,more depression,more struggles,several mental disorder,homelessness, modern day slavery and the list goes on and on.
Trust me... when it comes to hustling field, success is much more louder than failure. cos our mind was designed to constantly search for hope. which means you would quickly hear about the lucky 3% that made it big through JAPA, but hardly hear about the remaining unlucky 97% that found themselves in worse possible condition after the same JAPA. There's no money tree out here... there's no diamond river out here... Is there more opportunities? Well yes, But there are millions of people that already done and still doing whatever you intend to come do over here and yet they are still in the worse condition than you are in right now.
You would literally cry when you see what most of our African brothers and sisters go through around the world in the name of Japa. And as a Nigerian?? Trust me it gets worse.. and your chances gets even much smaller. Cos no one trust Nigerians anymore any where around the world and I believe we all know why.
Sorry but I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, kill anyone's vibe or being a negative biitch! Naaaah I'm only trying to be realistic! I'm only trying to tell you something no travel agent would ever tell you and something people abroad hardly tell you, and even when they eventually do tell you...? You don't believe them.. instead you result to asking them questions like "why are they still there if it's that bad"? .....
Well.... You wanna know why most of them are still there? Let me tell you why... there is a psychological reason for that... First They are still in DENIAL. Imagine dreaming your entire life to travel abroad and finally have a good life, you probably invested almost everything or everything you have got to make it happen (your money, your time, your last hope) But then you finally got there and then meet a reality that is entirely different from your life long dreams and perception of these faraway green lands? I don't know if you know... but our brain is defensive in nature, it will automatically switch straight to denial mode... Leaving you with atleast enough 'hope and wait for a magic or should i say a miracle' (afterall this is abroad where magic happens?) This is just one of the reasons why most of these people continue sticking around instead of returning home.
Another reason is that they are worried about what people back home would say or think... Because the people back home also got this general fvcked up mentality and very high expectation of people coming back from Japa (y'all need to stop it! Y'all need to get rid of that mentality, seriously ) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place... It needs to stop, yall driving the youth nuts with such mentality, it's doing more harm than good. That high expectation/ pressure back home is mostly the reason our people are more likely to result to crime out here (so just stop it! )
I have met alot of other African nationalities abroad... and amazingly they don't share the same mentality we have about Abroad. They treat abroad as just another hustling ground and not a direct ticket to success... Therefore they are more relaxed and less pressured than Nigerians out here.
Moving Abroad is not such a bad idea though, it worked and still works for few lucky ones (including my Family) it would be wrong and biased of me if I fail to mention that.. There are plenty of and more opportunities over out here not doubt... But what I'm just saying is that... it's not always that easily reached.. as most people automatically believe. Look... Somehow all these countries are intelligently designed In such a way that it take back almost entirely everything you make out here from you one way or the other... Through tax, through mind blowing bills or random expenses around every corner.
And at the end of the day you realize you are nothing but a modern day slave building someone's country for free... And without freedom.
Most people screaming Japa in Nigeria are far in better living condition and more stable mentally ,more happy than majority of people in the so called abroad without even knowing it. Sometimes Instead of gambling and betting your hard earned million of naira on Japa, it's more advisable to chill out... relax and invest that Millions in Nigeria. I'm just saying... You would probably end up living a life most people over there can only envy and dream of.
Thanks for reading my long note... I hope this helps someone in making a life decision out there. #ItsYourGurlMimi
There's no bad side to japaing.. anybody that thinks a lizard will suddenly turn into an alligator by changing continents is not being truthful with him/herself..
There's gold everywhere.. if you are energetic and you have the means, please japa..
There's more positive OPPORTUNITY for the lizard to turn into an alligator in the Anglo-West. That's all. I've lived it so I know.
Dog wey wan get lost and chop sheet, nor dey hia whistle.
Only if and I repeat, only if Africans work half as hard as they do in these foreign countries, Nigeria especially would be better off. Indeed, like the old days in Western Nigeria, when they visit or study abroad, they would not wait for a day to come back home.
To add to Op reasons those abroad refuse to come back home. Shame and failure to meet expectations while bragging to gullible at home.
Leave those slowpokes that sell everything and use their life savings to travel alone. Their reward is in heaven.
The old ones heard about free social services for those who have slaves for them, they think they are included. Until they find out that they will join the natives living outside, in shelters and picking bottles to survive.
As for the dirt poor and desperados at home. Your chances of survival is even better at home where you cannot freeze to death, relatives would throw handouts at you, become All Right Sir, thugs or load carriers.
Why? You have to cross desert and sea if you survive organ harvesting, Arab slavery alive and booming, become female and male sex slaves or drowning.
Then and only after these are you better off risking your life to JAPA. You hia me wellu.
It's been a while I read a post to a topic that divide opinions like Japa that is balanced and on points. People are frustrated back home and I can understand when they attack someone who has different view about Japa which they hang on as the last hope of a common man. Imagine graduating with 2.1 and jobless for years, you might be frustrated to even consider moving to Somalia but logic should prevail cos some countries are worse off than Nigeria and Japa crew should always do their research.
You are just trying to help others who are planning to japa, not to be too fixated on achieving financial freedom immediately, once they finally japa.
All that you said, are all facts. It's just that, African leaders are driving this japa syndrome at an astronomical rate, no thanks to their desire to keep looting the nation's treasury.
This is 2023, and yet, no black nation can lift up its head and shoulders and say, we are advancing both in human capital and IOT indices.
However, hope with your experiences and travels, you (or your folks) can, if possible, sometime in the future, create a small business back home to employ your fellow citizens?
At least, that way, you will be helping to reduce the unemployment figures in the country.
banku: Dog wey wan get lost and chop sheet, nor dey hia whistle.
Only if and I repeat, only if Africans work half as hard as they do in these foreign countries, Nigeria especially would be better off. Indeed, like the old days in Western Nigeria, when they visit or study abroad, they would not wait for a day to come back home.
To add to Op reasons those abroad refuse to come back home. Shame and failure to meet expectations while bragging to gullible at home.
Leave those slowpokes that sell everything and use their life savings to travel alone. Their reward is in heaven.
The old ones heard about free social services for those who have slaves for them, they think they are included. Until they find out that they will join the natives living outside, in shelters and picking bottles to survive.
As for the dirt poor and desperados at home. Your chances of survival is even better at home where you cannot freeze to death, relatives would throw handouts at you, become All Right Sir, thugs or load carriers.
Why? You have to cross desert and sea if you survive organ harvesting, Arab slavery alive and booming, become female and male sex slaves or drowning.
Then and only after these are you better off risking your life to JAPA. You hia me wellu.
Go to mile 12 and see them work "half has hard" and go home with peanuts
Go to establishment where they owe them salaries and other benefits even after working "half has hard"
You work "half has hard" for 6hrs but your travelling time without pay due to Lagos traffic is 8hrs.
Yet you come home, no light and you will still pay phcn for darkness at the end of the month
elonize: Modern day slavery..1 question...in Nigeria,are d ppo not slaves here to their own judicial system,their employment system... For example, c primary SCH employment dem dey do for delta.dem don buy all d spaces. To get $10 for Nigeria hard die.nowadays, sm ppo nor dey c food eat.who dey c food eat,shud b greatful. U go der,n u work.u can get $10 ..d money u r earning, u can b gathering it small small build a house here in Nigeria. Most of ppo here on nairaland dat will b posting anti japa msgs,check dem well..dem nogo ever gree cm back to Nigeria to live😂😂😂,but dem sabi give advice.. Its good but suffer for abroad n Nigeria nobi d same tin. U said,tinz get tough if dey know u r a Nigerian...please am not a nigerian😒,am from wakanda😎. O God of free indeed,jacob,isaac,elijah.plz carry over to d west😢😥😍.dis country is a mess.
If u have read the guidelines here,I don't think u will type this rubbish here.
MimiSheWrote: Hello Everyone, first of all I apologize in advance for the long note and also about my English, not actually my first language.
My name is Mimi, I was born in Nigeria... But cos of the nature of my dad's profession i have spent around 75% of my life in different countries outside Nigeria... Mostly in EU.
Well enough said about myself, cos this topic is not about me but about Nigerians... Our general mentality and perception of abroad.
Guys listen up... All that glitters is not really gold. Out there is not entirely what people think it is. And you might think just because I have spent so much time outside Nigeria i do not understand the struggle in Nigeria and therefore not qualified to tell you all this "nonsense"..... I completely get it.. trust me.
But even a random 3 years old kid knows that the country is messed up and nothing to write home about, we all know about the Suffering, depression and "starvation level of poverty" in Nigeria yeah.... That's why everyone is desperatly looking for a way out, no doubt... but trust me, JAPA is not 'always' your ticket out of poverty... Well 'sometimes' it is... but most times it's just your direct ticket to being subjected to racism,more depression,more struggles,several mental disorder,homelessness, modern day slavery and the list goes on and on.
Trust me... when it comes to hustling field, success is much more louder than failure. cos our mind was designed to constantly search for hope. which means you would quickly hear about the lucky 3% that made it big through JAPA, but hardly hear about the remaining unlucky 97% that found themselves in worse possible condition after the same JAPA. There's no money tree out here... there's no diamond river out here... Is there more opportunities? Well yes, But there are millions of people that already done and still doing whatever you intend to come do over here and yet they are still in the worse condition than you are in right now.
You would literally cry when you see what most of our African brothers and sisters go through around the world in the name of Japa. And as a Nigerian?? Trust me it gets worse.. and your chances gets even much smaller. Cos no one trust Nigerians anymore any where around the world and I believe we all know why.
Sorry but I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, kill anyone's vibe or being a negative biitch! Naaaah I'm only trying to be realistic! I'm only trying to tell you something no travel agent would ever tell you and something people abroad hardly tell you, and even when they eventually do tell you...? You don't believe them.. instead you result to asking them questions like "why are they still there if it's that bad"? .....
Well.... You wanna know why most of them are still there? Let me tell you why... there is a psychological reason for that... First They are still in DENIAL. Imagine dreaming your entire life to travel abroad and finally have a good life, you probably invested almost everything or everything you have got to make it happen (your money, your time, your last hope) But then you finally got there and then meet a reality that is entirely different from your life long dreams and perception of these faraway green lands? I don't know if you know... but our brain is defensive in nature, it will automatically switch straight to denial mode... Leaving you with atleast enough 'hope and wait for a magic or should i say a miracle' (afterall this is abroad where magic happens?) This is just one of the reasons why most of these people continue sticking around instead of returning home.
Another reason is that they are worried about what people back home would say or think... Because the people back home also got this general fvcked up mentality and very high expectation of people coming back from Japa (y'all need to stop it! Y'all need to get rid of that mentality, seriously ) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place... It needs to stop, yall driving the youth nuts with such mentality, it's doing more harm than good. That high expectation/ pressure back home is mostly the reason our people are more likely to result to crime out here (so just stop it! )
I have met alot of other African nationalities abroad... and amazingly they don't share the same mentality we have about Abroad. They treat abroad as just another hustling ground and not a direct ticket to success... Therefore they are more relaxed and less pressured than Nigerians out here.
Moving Abroad is not such a bad idea though, it worked and still works for few lucky ones (including my Family) it would be wrong and biased of me if I fail to mention that.. There are plenty of and more opportunities over out here not doubt... But what I'm just saying is that... it's not always that easily reached.. as most people automatically believe. Look... Somehow all these countries are intelligently designed In such a way that it take back almost entirely everything you make out here from you one way or the other... Through tax, through mind blowing bills or random expenses around every corner.
And at the end of the day you realize you are nothing but a modern day slave building someone's country for free... And without freedom.
Most people screaming Japa in Nigeria are far in better living condition and more stable mentally ,more happy than majority of people in the so called abroad without even knowing it. Sometimes Instead of gambling and betting your hard earned million of naira on Japa, it's more advisable to chill out... relax and invest that Millions in Nigeria. I'm just saying... You would probably end up living a life most people over there can only envy and dream of.
Thanks for reading my long note... I hope this helps someone in making a life decision out there. #ItsYourGurlMimi
Just blame those who show off online on top borrow pose and shady livelihood.
People who japa through corner corner, plan to stay illegally, they usually have a worse fate than staying in Nigeria.
However, people who japa properly, especially if semi skilled or skilled, are much better off outside Nigeria.
Bear in mind that some professions, like law, are easier for nigerians practising in Nigeria.
One compromise is remote workers.
I know MANY lawyers in Nigeria, some with over 20 years experience and some recent grads that I helped pay their way through university. Lawyers don't make much money in Nigeria. As a fast food cook in the USA I lived better than lawyers with 10 to 20 years experience in Nigeria.
I wonder how many of these Japareians think of pension and their old age. Most people in the western world should have a good pension for their old age .If you are Japaring at age 40- 50, you have nothing. If your pension is property back home, then why bother selling all in the first place to Japa? High risk, low reward!
My mother migrated to the USA at age 55. Her Nigerian employer pays her ZERO pension but she collects a huge pension by Nigerian standards here in the USA. She caters for MULTIPLE families in Nigeria with her USA pension.
In the USA every senior citizen over age 65 or 67 is entitled to a minimum pension of around $600 even of you never worked a day in your life. Google it, NY Times wrote a big story about it years ago.
MimiSheWrote: Hello Everyone, first of all I apologize in advance for the long note and also about my English, not actually my first language.
My name is Mimi, I was born in Nigeria... But cos of the nature of my dad's profession i have spent around 75% of my life in different countries outside Nigeria... Mostly in EU.
Well enough said about myself, cos this topic is not about me but about Nigerians... Our general mentality and perception of abroad.
Guys listen up... All that glitters is not really gold. Out there is not entirely what people think it is. And you might think just because I have spent so much time outside Nigeria i do not understand the struggle in Nigeria and therefore not qualified to tell you all this "nonsense"..... I completely get it.. trust me.
But even a random 3 years old kid knows that the country is messed up and nothing to write home about, we all know about the Suffering, depression and "starvation level of poverty" in Nigeria yeah.... That's why everyone is desperatly looking for a way out, no doubt... but trust me, JAPA is not 'always' your ticket out of poverty... Well 'sometimes' it is... but most times it's just your direct ticket to being subjected to racism,more depression,more struggles,several mental disorder,homelessness, modern day slavery and the list goes on and on.
Trust me... when it comes to hustling field, success is much more louder than failure. cos our mind was designed to constantly search for hope. which means you would quickly hear about the lucky 3% that made it big through JAPA, but hardly hear about the remaining unlucky 97% that found themselves in worse possible condition after the same JAPA. There's no money tree out here... there's no diamond river out here... Is there more opportunities? Well yes, But there are millions of people that already done and still doing whatever you intend to come do over here and yet they are still in the worse condition than you are in right now.
You would literally cry when you see what most of our African brothers and sisters go through around the world in the name of Japa. And as a Nigerian?? Trust me it gets worse.. and your chances gets even much smaller. Cos no one trust Nigerians anymore any where around the world and I believe we all know why.
Sorry but I'm not trying to burst anyone's bubble, kill anyone's vibe or being a negative biitch! Naaaah I'm only trying to be realistic! I'm only trying to tell you something no travel agent would ever tell you and something people abroad hardly tell you, and even when they eventually do tell you...? You don't believe them.. instead you result to asking them questions like "why are they still there if it's that bad"? .....
Well.... You wanna know why most of them are still there? Let me tell you why... there is a psychological reason for that... First They are still in DENIAL. Imagine dreaming your entire life to travel abroad and finally have a good life, you probably invested almost everything or everything you have got to make it happen (your money, your time, your last hope) But then you finally got there and then meet a reality that is entirely different from your life long dreams and perception of these faraway green lands? I don't know if you know... but our brain is defensive in nature, it will automatically switch straight to denial mode... Leaving you with atleast enough 'hope and wait for a magic or should i say a miracle' (afterall this is abroad where magic happens?) This is just one of the reasons why most of these people continue sticking around instead of returning home.
Another reason is that they are worried about what people back home would say or think... Because the people back home also got this general fvcked up mentality and very high expectation of people coming back from Japa (y'all need to stop it! Y'all need to get rid of that mentality, seriously ) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place... It needs to stop, yall driving the youth nuts with such mentality, it's doing more harm than good. That high expectation/ pressure back home is mostly the reason our people are more likely to result to crime out here (so just stop it! )
I have met alot of other African nationalities abroad... and amazingly they don't share the same mentality we have about Abroad. They treat abroad as just another hustling ground and not a direct ticket to success... Therefore they are more relaxed and less pressured than Nigerians out here.
Moving Abroad is not such a bad idea though, it worked and still works for few lucky ones (including my Family) it would be wrong and biased of me if I fail to mention that.. There are plenty of and more opportunities over out here not doubt... But what I'm just saying is that... it's not always that easily reached.. as most people automatically believe. Look... Somehow all these countries are intelligently designed In such a way that it take back almost entirely everything you make out here from you one way or the other... Through tax, through mind blowing bills or random expenses around every corner.
And at the end of the day you realize you are nothing but a modern day slave building someone's country for free... And without freedom.
Most people screaming Japa in Nigeria are far in better living condition and more stable mentally ,more happy than majority of people in the so called abroad without even knowing it. Sometimes Instead of gambling and betting your hard earned million of naira on Japa, it's more advisable to chill out... relax and invest that Millions in Nigeria. I'm just saying... You would probably end up living a life most people over there can only envy and dream of.
Thanks for reading my long note... I hope this helps someone in making a life decision out there. #ItsYourGurlMimi
Mimi what you said was basically the truth but I would.love t change a perception in you too. The reason why most of us leave Nigeria is cause no one wants to get there hands stained anymore. So therefore we are just here suffering from the sins of our fathers, which is the sin of living on another man's sadness. This isn't what happens in the abroad. The abroad gives you a life of getting paid by the energy you put into making life beautiful for each and everyone living abroad.
But over here you make money off someones ignorance. That's how the government survives too, so why do you think anything good will happen.
So please if you like share tracts about how life seems to be the same or a little worse over there than here, it won't stop the average travel agency from making money from the ignorant nigerians.
Moreso there shouldn't Be a travel agency in the first place. When there is internet.
Nigeria is a damn heartless place caused by the knowledge of god
olufak2001: It's a pity that most people don't really know what is going on out there. Abroad is a good place to stay but if there is anyway to send your money home for investments, please do. Most of the money you make there will go back into the system. I have lived in Europe for good two years and I can say one or two things about Europe.
Also if you are above 45 years, please do a lot of research before you move. It takes time before you can get your documents
Netherlands is a good place to live but if you have a study permit.
What are the tuition fees like? Any other benefits? Do they give undergraduate admissions or just masters?
Most of those struggling never took time to build their capacity to be useful in another man's land. They have this mentality that they can earn their meagre pay here there with the currency symbol swapped. Never taught of asking what sells. Everyday USA is welcoming highly skilled individuals in fields that support their dwindling industries. They need medical care and are short in skilled hands. Same way we can't process our crude or scale up and mechanize our farms is how they can't train enough medical doctors cost effectively. Instead of lamenting and sending the wrong set of people to advances nations, let's start prioritizing what they lack that we can cheaply provide and allow them help us also.
My mother migrated to the USA at age 55. Her Nigerian employer pays her ZERO pension but she collects a huge pension by Nigerian standards here in the USA. She caters for MULTIPLE families in Nigeria with her pension.
In the USA every senior citizen over age 65 or 67 is entitled to a minimum pension of around $600 even of you never worked a day in your life. Google it, NY Times wrote a big story about it years ago. Many many immigrant senior citizens are on this "free retirement" payment. Our Nigerian community here is full of such people.
Good Luck to Nigerians!
I guess you can survive on state pension but some people want more in life.
ednut1: But why have you not returned to Nigeria People just want to live in a sane society where things work, you have a foreign passport and are obviously enjoying. But you want to tell people not to flee. 🤣🤣 you are a joker
the joke is on you — please watch what this man who lives in Canada 🇨🇦 somewhere you are dreaming to japa to- hear what he says about the abroad you’ve are masturbating about everyday enjoy 😊
jesmond3945: you are not being fair and just if you live in abroad and you are giving such an advise. Are you also aware that most african leaders prefer keeping their people in penury while sending their kids abroad or investing there. Look at ondo governor or even buhari. Do you know if buhari was not treated in uk, he would have been a dead man. So i say you guys giving these advise while outside Nigeria are very mean and wicked.
Emu4life: People are at Liberty to Migrate however they so wish. The problem I have is with the Dumb Nigerians who after migrating starts insulting and cursing their Countries of Origin. Motherfvcker!! Even if you stay in the UK or Canada for 3000 years, they will never consider you one of them. You will always be "the black monkey from a Shitty African Countries" according to them. So why not migrate, learn the developmental strides/processes there and comeback to impact on your 'real home' instead of insulting your ancestors just for the pale skinned man's acceptance that will never happen.
You will hear I will never come back... Some of them dey jail for there like this... Awon werey... Na Wetin don ready them dey like... Build your own na lie...
I guess you can survive on state pension but some people want more in life.
You are the one who mentioned pension with the implication that migration to the USA might result in old age poverty. The FACT is that many employers in Nigeria, public & private, are not paying the pensions they promised. I know MANY such people living in Nigeria who can't get their pensions. If the MINIMUM PUBLIC PENSION in the USA is $600, can you tell me how many full time workers earn $200 per month in Nigeria? Wanna guess?
On the other hand, I know MANY people who migrated to the USA at over 50 years of age who have made a good life for themselves. It's nice to wallow in misplaced pride, I get it, but the FACTS are that the USA is far and away better than Nigeria in almost every way except the availability of cheap sex.
the joke is on you — please watch what this man who lives in Canada 🇨🇦 somewhere you are dreaming to japa to- hear what he says about the abroad you’ve are masturbating about everyday enjoy 😊
i have been in Canada for 3 years plus. Currently processing my citizenship lol. I have friends who converted in 18 to 24 months in the same medical field . If he cannot pass the medical exams the joke is on him. Uk is there for him to go, they accept Nigerians doctors for practice easily.Others that have done it dont have two heads.
) cos like I said earlier... there is no bleeping money tree over there! I don't know where Nigerians got that idea from in the first place...