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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 3:57pm On Sep 16, 2023
The Supernerd!
Welcome back home

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:58pm On Sep 16, 2023
Semi Ajayi goofed against Lesotho in the 2019 AFCON Qualifier and a few other matches I can't remember right now.

Kog45:
Aina CB right? Chris am off….Pls just tell me a match Semi goofed.

According to you,Semi,Omeruo and Ekong are off your radar but you watched how Bassey/Akpogunma fumbled against Guinea Bissau.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 4:16pm On Sep 16, 2023
solonnachi:
The Supernerd!
Welcome back home

Thanks My Good man. 🤝🏻

Happy Weekend.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:25pm On Sep 16, 2023
Na Ndidi ans championship prompt my post. Na u carry the matter go Nwakali like everything else. If u are not doing banter about Nwakali na OGN u dey post grin.
charlesemeka85:
that one concern u

No be because of the same nwakali prompted your post?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kettle calling pot black 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:26pm On Sep 16, 2023
See who starts away to Spartak

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by villagereporter(m): 4:31pm On Sep 16, 2023
Joebie:
See who starts away to Spartak
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Is dis line up real sir?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:41pm On Sep 16, 2023
charlesemeka85:
yea bro, my major worry is our CB positions

If we can get additional 1 or 2 decent players to compete in that position we re good to go

I no follow for pple having wet dreams of having a xavi or iniesta kinda midfielder when he don’t even hv any at the moment

To me the only midfield addition I will welcome is the inclusion of Ebenezer Akinsanmiro not for immediate impact but to be groomed for future purposes ( I think before 2026 World Cup he will be ready)

Our best midfield 4 remains

Ndidi
Iwobi
Onyeka
Onyedika

Aribo should be excused for Alhassan, Akin, Folorunsho or nwakali to be tried making the number to 5
We should be going with 5 midfielders... I want to believe 26 players is the AFCON squad number since the tournament has been expanded to 6 groups.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Caicedo: 4:59pm On Sep 16, 2023
zuchyblink:
Can this work for Nigeria?
this one is a strong one ooo...am waiting for supernerd to say something on this

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:02pm On Sep 16, 2023
Chuks getting ready for his first Eternal derby, will he start, time will tell
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:02pm On Sep 16, 2023
Updated on SofaScore
villagereporter:
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Is dis line up real sir?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 5:28pm On Sep 16, 2023
zuchyblink:
Can this work for Nigeria?
Boniface as an AM?

Also, We only have a below average defensive setup so we seriously need up to two midfielders shielding the defence...

Guess you're even aware of that, that's why you left the defence blank.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jojodjo: 5:33pm On Sep 16, 2023
The disrespect meted out to Ndidi some months back is the same been given to Aribo now.
People are so quick to write off players.......

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 5:40pm On Sep 16, 2023
charlesemeka85:
his natural position is CM which he played well at the last afcon

I think the reason jpes doesn’t deploy him in that position is his lack of agility and tackling ability

Another role I think he will do well is the AM/RW position

Also will be good as an SS but due to having many potent attackers/strikers I don’t think he will get a chance in that position

Making tackles and winning duels are some of the reasons Aribo is played as a midfielder.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:04pm On Sep 16, 2023
Brighton e no go better for una 😭
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:10pm On Sep 16, 2023
chrisooblog:
Semi Ajayi goofed against Lesotho in the 2019 AFCON Qualifier and a few other matches I can't remember right now.

2019…make we kuku dey list number of matches Nigeria players goofed in super eagles.

I don’t think Semi was this poor cuz have not seen people talk the guy down as you described him

Oga Chris,just tell me you don’t rate him,nothing fuss.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:11pm On Sep 16, 2023
Joebie:
Na Ndidi ans championship prompt my post. Na u carry the matter go Nwakali like everything else. If u are not doing banter about Nwakali na OGN u dey post grin.
and what made you say that we don’t rate 2nd tier players if not nwakali when he was in laliga 2? No twist am say abeg 🤣🤣🤣

Oga 2nd tier leagues get level. In europe as a whole the English championship is miles better and more competitive than many top tier leagues.

I will prefer playing in the championship than playing for clubs like Chaves, portimonense, Estrella, cercle brugge, NEC, Vollendam, Vitesse, Eupen, Aberdeen, saint mirren etc

If not for anything I will be well paid and stand the chance to be signed by an epl club or gain promotion to the epl with the 2nd tier club

Sporting Lisbon signed one of championship best players from Coventry last season and he currently leads the attack for them, Akpom moved to ajax from the same championship ,bellingham moved to dortmund from Birmingham and now plays for almighty Real Madrid just to mention a few I can remember

If Akpom got the numbers he had last term in clubs like eupen or Chaves I doubt he will attract a top club like Ajax

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:12pm On Sep 16, 2023
Jojodjo:
The disrespect meted out to Ndidi some months back is the same been given to Aribo now.
People are so quick to write off players.......

Nobody wrote Aribo off.
He is not a midfielder.
He reads games very poorly, and can be completely lost in games, just running around and sweating.
The midfield is about control. You cannot control a game, if your reading of the game is poor.

I have found Aribo not knowing what to do with the ball in midfield on countless occasions, just clueless, He is the back passer in chief.

Aribo is a fine dribbler and has eyes for the final pass. Aribo displays his excellency whenever he is close to the 18 yard box, where he can either dribble a player or two to get a shooting chance, or make the final pass that can result to a goal scoring opportunity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:28pm On Sep 16, 2023
Chukwueze subbed in
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 6:30pm On Sep 16, 2023
Meliforme:


Nobody wrote Aribo off.
He is not a midfielder.
He reads games very poorly, and can be completely lost in games, just running around and sweating.
The midfield is about control. You cannot control a game, if your reading of the game is poor.

I have found Aribo not knowing what to do with the ball in midfield on countless occasions, just clueless, He is the back passer in chief.

Aribo is a fine dribbler and has eyes for the final pass. Aribo displays his excellency whenever he is close to the 18 yard box, where he can either dribble a player or two to get a shooting chance, or make the final pass that can result to a goal scoring opportunity.

Aribo is not a central midfielder. The sooner our coaches understand that the better. He will be better as a winger or support striker in a 442.
I know a lot of people will not agree but its obvious. He cannot control a midfield or read a game.
Its a misnomer playing him in midfield

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:31pm On Sep 16, 2023
RDZ is a very bad man 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:34pm On Sep 16, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
RDZ is a very bad man 🤣🤣🤣🤣
he is a good tactician who deserves a big team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:35pm On Sep 16, 2023
Philosopher1979:


Aribo is not a central midfielder. The sooner our coaches understand that the better. He will be better as a winger or support striker in a 442.
I know a lot of people will not agree but its obvious. He cannot control a midfield or read a game.
Its a misnomer playing him in midfield
mk we try am out as keeper

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:38pm On Sep 16, 2023
Jojodjo:
The disrespect meted out to Ndidi some months back is the same been given to Aribo now.
People are so quick to write off players.......

Joe Aribo is simply a forward.

He needs to work on his ability to make long passes and crosses.
His long passing is the poorest in the entire S.E setup. (somebody should please prove me wrong) and that is why he doesn't attempt them much, because his successes with them are rare. I have not seen him attempt crossing of the ball.

His poor long balls is also one of his limitations as a midfielder.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:40pm On Sep 16, 2023
Osimhen starts for Napoli against Genoa

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:40pm On Sep 16, 2023
Philosopher1979:


Aribo is not a central midfielder. The sooner our coaches understand that the better. He will be better as a winger or support striker in a 442.
I know a lot of people will not agree but its obvious. He cannot control a midfield or read a game.
Its a misnomer playing him in midfield

You made good points.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ihenzy(m): 6:55pm On Sep 16, 2023
How was iwobi performance today?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jojodjo: 7:00pm On Sep 16, 2023
You've made valid points.
Sadly some feel and have opined he should be axed from the team.

I hope he gets to play in the position that suits him best .
Meliforme:


Nobody wrote Aribo off.
He is not a midfielder.
He reads games very poorly, and can be completely lost in games, just running around and sweating.
The midfield is about control. You cannot control a game, if your reading of the game is poor.

I have found Aribo not knowing what to do with the ball in midfield on countless occasions, just clueless, He is the back passer in chief.

Aribo is a fine dribbler and has eyes for the final pass. Aribo displays his excellency whenever he is close to the 18 yard box, where he can either dribble a player or two to get a shooting chance, or make the final pass that can result to a goal scoring opportunity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 7:04pm On Sep 16, 2023
Victor Osimhen starts for Napoli
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 7:11pm On Sep 16, 2023
Samueltemi337:
Victor Osimhen starts for Napoli
as iwobi n bassey tk start for Fulham 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 7:48pm On Sep 16, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
It's not just limited to who provides a more secure defensive shield. It's also about who can receive best from defence among these 3 listed and feed the advanced players cleanly.
The ball playing aspect is as important as the shield the CDM must provide if our midfield is to fly and our attack to be utilised to the level that we expect from an attack that loaded.



Who shields better? Definitely Ndidi and Onyedika for me. They are more positionally disciplined and provide secure cover compared to Onyeka who has loads of energy but isn't exactly positionally aware. Strong in tackle and duels like Onyedika and Ndidi but won't provide stable positional shield as we expect.


Who receives better from the back in the CDM role? Definitely Onyedika. His ball playing beats Onyeka. And is currently better than Ndidi.


About who roams... who can receive better between the lines or in advanced positions? I will go with Ndidi from this list of 3 based off what he is showing under the ingenuity of Enzo Maresca at Leicester. Ndidi is very lucky to be working under this man. TheGoodJoe will tell you more.


Onyeka's only advantage over Ndidi and Onyedika is that he covers grounds better than both. His running power is also quite lethal in BTL scenarios but not adept or decent enough at receiving between the lines in advanced areas.


In conclusion...
From these 3 alone... Onyedika will sit as the shield while Ndidi will roam as he does under Enzo Maresca.

Onyeka's energy is best used from the bench.



If I may, I think it's time we took a look at what gets Guardiola the result he has been getting. The answer is if he could pack his team with only ball playing midfielders if it were up to him, he would!

That tells us that football is beyond just scoring. There is a how to get to the scoring. When we were under Gernot Rohr, we were easily decoded cos dude built from the back and huff ball all the way to the left side looking for one moses Simon. Thet reeks of lack of creativity. We can't even string 5 passes without getting dispossessed and that is still a problem yet to be addressed.

But if we will set sentiments aside and be really objective with a view for results and not always be looking for the next best thing since sliced bread, we will see that having cerebral ball playing midfielders/ wingers is what will cure our plays. Our wingers need to be ball playing and creative. Able to adapt to playing in the middle seamlessly.

As someone quite mentioned earlier, all it took for us to lose out at Afcon and world cup qualifiers was the loss of Iwobi. It hurts but it is the truth.

We have been there in the days of Christian Chukwu as the coach where the only games that Okocha plays in for the national team were the ones we managed to win. Any game he doesn't show up for, we struggled. But back in the days of westerhoff,you had the likes of Friday Ekpo,Samson Siasia, Thomson Oliha to mention a few.

Fortify the middle and also stop the sentiments of the next big thing A la Moffi, Boniface, Orban, Dessers, etc.... these players are good but only 11 players can play at a time. What happens to the rest of the team when all we pack to tournaments are forwards? Just because sentiments will not allow us deal with what's in front of us. We wanna make room for everyone like say national team is a Molue bus.

My 2 cents

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 8:00pm On Sep 16, 2023
charlesemeka85:


Accommodating Boniface implies you hv to play him from the flanks or deploy a 442 formation which seem to work for the team against minnows

Onyedika also plays as a b2b midfielder but primarily a CDM. Like you said maybe he will do well in the b2b position if given a chance

I am yet to see him in that role which is the major reason I picked Onyeka who plays there for his club

If he is Cerebral and able to weave his way out of tough situations, a good crosser of the ball and highly creative then I don't mind. Not to dey play Simon and chukwueze upandan and calling them inverted wingers with no end product.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 8:03pm On Sep 16, 2023
Melvinity:

Gbam!! I wonder why dey still invite him. Plus giving him our number 10 shirt.. I tire


Next big thing things nooni. Deploy the guy in his right position and stop playing him as a makeshift

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