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Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by ValarDoharis: 1:23am On Sep 20, 2023
The judge in Illinois has ordered Chicago State University to release Tinubu academic records to Atiku.

Will they appeal to cause delay before Supreme Court proceedings?


U.S. court orders Chicago university to release Bola Tinubu’s records to Atiku Abubakar within two days, certify authenticity under oath

The Nigerian opposition leader said the documents would be used as part of his ongoing push to demonstrate Bola Tinubu’s ineligibility to be Nigeria’s president.


Nigerian opposition leader Atiku Abubakar has landed a major victory in the United States as part of his ongoing push to demonstrate Bola Tinubu’s ineligibility to be Nigeria’s president.

A federal court in Chicago ruled on Tuesday night that Chicago State University (CSU) must turn over all records relating to Mr Tinubu to Mr Abubakar within two days, saying the former vice-president has been able to sufficiently satisfy the purpose for seeking the records, according to the ruling seen by Peoples Gazette.

Judge Jeffrey Gilbert also ordered a deposition of designated CSU officials within two days after the records have been released, noting further that the process can be conducted during the weekend if necessary.

“For all of the reasons discussed above, Atiku Abubakar’s application pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1782 for an order directing discovery from Chicago State University for use in a foreign proceeding [ECF No. 1] is granted,” Mr Gilbert ruled. “Respondent CSU shall produce all relevant and non-privileged documents in response to requests for production Nos. 1 through 4 (as narrowed by the court) in applicant subpoena within two days of the entry of this memorandum opinion and order.”

“The deposition of respondent’s corporate designee shall proceed within two days of the production of documents. The parties can modify the dates set by the court by mutual agreement. Given the tight time frame under which the parties are operating, the deposition can, if necessary, occur on a non-weekday,” the court added.

The order comes hours after Mr Abubakar filed his appeal to the Supreme Court, following the September 6 judgement of the presidential election petitions tribunal that upheld Mr Tinubu’s victory.

Mr Abubakar had on August 2 filed an application for the court to order CSU to produce documents relating to Mr Tinubu, as well as leave to get the school’s administrators to authenticate any documents submitted under oath.

Mr Abubakar said the documents would be used as part of his ongoing challenge against Mr Tinubu’s election earlier this year. The candidate of the opposition Peoples Democratic Party said Mr Tinubu should not have been allowed to run for president because he had submitted a forged document under oath in violation of the Nigerian Constitution.

Section 137 (1)(j) of the Nigerian Constitution (amended in 2010) specifically stated that no one would be legitimately elected president of Nigeria if the person “has presented a forged certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission.”

On June 17, 2022, Mr Tinubu submitted a certificate to INEC that was purportedly issued in 1979 and signed by Elnora Daniel. But Ms Daniel only arrived at CSU in 1998 from Hampton University, 19 years after Mr Tinubu was said to have graduated. She left the school in 2008 following a financial mismanagement scandal, or 14 years before June 2022 when CSU issued yet a fresh certificate in Mr Tinubu’s name under subpoena from a Nigerian lawyer who had inquired about Mr Tinubu’s education there.

The irregularities prompted Mr Abubakar to file the suit to compel CSU to produce records relating to Mr Tinubu and make its top officials available for deposition to certify the produced records, according to the Nigerian opposition leader’s lawyers.

During a hearing on the matter on September 12, the CSU’s lawyer Michael Hayes, said the school could not authenticate Mr Tinubu’s certificate if asked under oath, although he said Mr Tinubu attended the school and graduated in 1979.

Mr Tinubu’s lawyers, led by Christopher Carmichael, argued that the court should not grant Mr Abubakar’s application because it was a frivolous expedition aimed at soiling the Nigerian president’s image.

Mr Tinubu’s lawyers also argued that Nigerian Supreme Court would not accept fresh evidence that was not produced during the tribunal proceeding.

But Mr Abubakar’s team, led by Angela Liu, had argued that the Supreme Court would accommodate the fresh facts under unique circumstances, especially as they were not available to the Court of Appeal, which is the court of first instance in a presidential election dispute.

But Judge Gilbert said courts across the U.S. have traditionally taken a broad and liberal view in granting applications under Section 1782, a statute that allows the release of documents and evidence domiciled in the U.S. to be obtained and used in a foreign proceeding.

https://gazettengr.com/just-in-u-s-court-orders-chicago-university-to-release-bola-tinubus-records-to-atiku-abubakar-within-two-days-certify-authenticity-under-oath/#:~:text=A

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by IduNaOba: 1:27am On Sep 20, 2023
Hehe

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Toks2008(m): 1:37am On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
The judge in Illinois has ordered Chicago State University to release Tinubu academic records to Atiku.

Will they appeal to cause delay before Supreme Court proceedings?

https://x.com/jacksonpbn/status/1704270529228677265?s=08

cc Nlfpmod

Haaaaaaaaaaaaa shocked

It is over.

Very true.

https://gazettengr.com/just-in-u-s-court-orders-chicago-university-to-release-bola-tinubus-records-to-atiku-abubakar-within-two-days-certify-authenticity-under-oath/#:~:text=A%20federal%20court%20in%20Chicago,the%20ruling%20seen%20by%20Peoples

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by gaby(m): 1:43am On Sep 20, 2023
Okay na...

Let's see how it goes.

Interesting times ahead.

Before this movie go end, dollar don climb reach 5k...lol

By then even Atiku or Obi go say dem no rule again....lol

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by ValarDoharis: 1:43am On Sep 20, 2023
Ordered to release within two days! Oturugbeke grin
Toks2008:


Haaaaaaaaaaaaa shocked

It is over.

Very true.

https://gazettengr.com/just-in-u-s-court-orders-chicago-university-to-release-bola-tinubus-records-to-atiku-abubakar-within-two-days-certify-authenticity-under-oath/#:~:text=A%20federal%20court%20in%20Chicago,the%20ruling%20seen%20by%20Peoples

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by ValarDoharis: 1:48am On Sep 20, 2023
Supreme Court judgment is latest November 6th, 2023!
gaby:
Okay na...

Let's see how it goes.

Interesting times ahead.

Before this movie go end, dollar don climb reach 5k...lol

By then even Atiku or Obi go say dem no rule again....lol

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:49am On Sep 20, 2023
Toks2008:


Haaaaaaaaaaaaa shocked

It is over.

Very true.

https://gazettengr.com/just-in-u-s-court-orders-chicago-university-to-release-bola-tinubus-records-to-atiku-abubakar-within-two-days-certify-authenticity-under-oath/#:~:text=A%20federal%20court%20in%20Chicago,the%20ruling%20seen%20by%20Peoples

It granted only a limited and narrowed search

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:50am On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
The judge in Illinois has ordered Chicago State University to release Tinubu academic records to Atiku.

Will they appeal to cause delay before Supreme Court proceedings?

https://gazettengr.com/just-in-u-s-court-orders-chicago-university-to-release-bola-tinubus-records-to-atiku-abubakar-within-two-days-certify-authenticity-under-oath/#:~:text=A

https://x.com/jacksonpbn/status/1704270529228677265?s=08

cc Nlfpmod

Like I predicted,the court only ordered a narrow release of just a few documents and not what atiku wanted...see it below

III.
DOCUMENT REQUESTS
Request No. 1.

A true and correct copy of any diploma for a Bachelor of Science degree issued by CSU in
1979.
Request No. 2.
A true and correct copy of any diploma issued by CSU in 1979 to Mr. Tinubu.
Request No. 3.
True and correct copies of any diplomas issued by CSU (other than to Mr. Tinubu) that
contain the same font, seal, signatures, and wording (other than the name of the recipient and the
specific degree awarded) as contained in Exhibit C to the First Liu Declaration, which purports to
be a CSU diploma issued to Mr. Tinubu on or about June 22, 1979.
Request No. 4.
True and correct copies of any CSU documents relating to Mr. Tinubu that were certified
by Jamar C. Orr, Esq., including, without limitation, the documents in Exhibit D to the Uwais

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Toks2008(m): 1:51am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


It granted only a limited and narrowed search

The narrowest search is good enough.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Toks2008(m): 1:54am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Like I predicted,the court only ordered a narrow release of just a few documents and not what atiku wanted...see it below

III.
DOCUMENT REQUESTS
Request No. 1.

A true and correct copy of any diploma for a Bachelor of Science degree issued by CSU in
1979.
Request No. 2.
A true and correct copy of any diploma issued by CSU in 1979 to Mr. Tinubu.
Request No. 3.
True and correct copies of any diplomas issued by CSU (other than to Mr. Tinubu) that
contain the same font, seal, signatures, and wording (other than the name of the recipient and the
specific degree awarded) as contained in Exhibit C to the First Liu Declaration, which purports to
be a CSU diploma issued to Mr. Tinubu on or about June 22, 1979.
Request No. 4.
True and correct copies of any CSU documents relating to Mr. Tinubu that were certified
by Jamar C. Orr, Esq., including, without limitation, the documents in Exhibit D to the Uwais


Bro this is more than enough to confirm that the one Tinubu presented TO INEC was forged.

BTW, me I have looked away from this academic records brouhaha... Im eagerly waiting for the FBI and CIA info on Tinubu.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:54am On Sep 20, 2023
Toks2008:


The narrowest search is good enough.


It is not.he wanted tinubu admission records and records from Daley college.it is actually a loss.eveb the transcript,he didn't get

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:55am On Sep 20, 2023
Toks2008:


Bro this is more than enough to confirm that the one Tinubu presented TO INEC was forged.

BTW, me I have looked away from this academic records brouhaha... Im eagerly waiting for the FBI and CIA info on Tinubu.


It is not enough sir.the school must specifically state in court that the certificate tinubu presented was forged which they won't.
The fbi records will come out after the apex judgment

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by ValarDoharis: 1:55am On Sep 20, 2023
If you believe Tinubu is not lying, why are you pushing for a narrow release? Seems you know he is a fraud but you don't care!
garfield1:


Like I predicted,the court only ordered a narrow release of just a few documents and not what atiku wanted...see it below

III.
DOCUMENT REQUESTS
Request No. 1.

A true and correct copy of any diploma for a Bachelor of Science degree issued by CSU in
1979.
Request No. 2.
A true and correct copy of any diploma issued by CSU in 1979 to Mr. Tinubu.
Request No. 3.
True and correct copies of any diplomas issued by CSU (other than to Mr. Tinubu) that
contain the same font, seal, signatures, and wording (other than the name of the recipient and the
specific degree awarded) as contained in Exhibit C to the First Liu Declaration, which purports to
be a CSU diploma issued to Mr. Tinubu on or about June 22, 1979.
Request No. 4.
True and correct copies of any CSU documents relating to Mr. Tinubu that were certified
by Jamar C. Orr, Esq., including, without limitation, the documents in Exhibit D to the Uwais

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 1:57am On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
If you believe Tinubu is not lying, why are you pushing for a narrow release? Seems you know he is a fraud but you don't care!

What I believe doesn't matter.what I am saying is that no matter where atiku takes the case to,he will lose.tinubu will do 8 clean years.bury this matter

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by ValarDoharis: 1:58am On Sep 20, 2023
This una 8yrs like though you're God.
garfield1:


What I believe doesn't matter.what I am saying is that no matter where atiku takes the case to,he will lose.tinubu will do 8 clean years.bury this matter

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 2:00am On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
This una 8yrs like though you're God.

Atiku will never rule

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Toks2008(m): 2:00am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


It is not enough sir.the school must specifically state in court that the certificate tinubu presented was forged which they won't.
The fbi records will come out after the apex judgment

Bro walahi im not interested in whether Atiku unseats Tinubu or not. Infact I strongly believe that all these will be useful in 2027 but as long as the truth is revealed... That is perfectly OK.

As for the forgery, the prima facie lies with Atiku and once he is given the real records, the fact that it bears a F female as the owner of the certificate is enough.

Forensic experts will also come in handy to prove that the one Tinubu submitted was forged.

This is good enough.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Toks2008(m): 2:02am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


What I believe doesn't matter.what I am saying is that no matter where atiku takes the case to,he will lose.tinubu will do 8 clean years.bury this matter

No sir, he may most likely finish his present 4years cos the supreme court may not grant Atiku permission to add new evidence but will definitely stop him in 2027.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 2:04am On Sep 20, 2023
Toks2008:


Bro walahi im not interested in whether Atiku unseats Tinubu or not. Infact I strongly believe that all these will be useful in 2027 but as long as the truth is revealed... That is perfectly OK.

As for the forgery, the prima facie lies with Atiku and once he is given the real records, the fact that it bears a F female as the owner of the certificate is enough.

Forensic experts will also come in handy to prove that the one Tinubu submitted was forged.

This is good enough.

That is not how forgery is proven sir,the supreme court has stated that to prove forgery,the issuing authority must testify see oyetola vs adeleke 2023,dantiye vs adamu 2021 supra ie CSU must come and testify.any mistake or variations or discrepancies is of no moment.the case is dead

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 2:05am On Sep 20, 2023
Toks2008:


No sir, he may most likely finish his present 4years cos the supreme court may not grant Atiku permission to add new evidence but will definitely stop him in 2027.


Tinubu can simply write and present gce or any vocational or professional certificate equivalent to school cert

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by ednut1(m): 2:06am On Sep 20, 2023
But they said new evidences cant be added in the Supreme Court

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Toks2008(m): 2:10am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


That is not how forgery is proven sir,the supreme court has stated that to prove forgery,the issuing authority must testify see oyetola vs adeleke 2023,dantiye vs adamu 2021 supra ie CSU must come and testify.any mistake or variations or discrepancies is of no moment.the case is dead

There are ways of spinning things.

CSO has said THEY CAN NOT UNDER OATH AUTHENTICATE THE CERTIFICATE TINUBU PROVIDED TO INEC... this is a clear indictment even if it does not expressly prove Tinubu forged.

Now read again what CSU is asked to produce and marry it with the petition of Atiku.

Now incase you don't know, the records to be released has been released already last year to Enahoro and it clearly shows that the transcript that was issued in 1977 by South West College which he used to gain admission to CSU clearly belonged to a female as shown in the records presented to Enahoro by CSU.



So let's see how it goes.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by a4cube: 2:10am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


That is not how forgery is proven sir,the supreme court has stated that to prove forgery,the issuing authority must testify see oyetola vs adeleke 2023,dantiye vs adamu 2021 supra ie CSU must come and testify.any mistake or variations or discrepancies is of no moment.the case is dead
How are you 100% sure the issuing authority will not testify against him if he forged the certificate?

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Toks2008(m): 2:14am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Tinubu can simply write and present gce or any vocational or professional certificate equivalent to school cert

Habba why are you scatter yarning?

When you commit forgery, you can't un-commit it.

See incase you all don't know, if found guilty of forgery it will simply mean that he doesn't even have a secondary school cert cos if you used another person's cert to gain admission, it means you don't even have any and by extension, your university degree will be voided.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 2:17am On Sep 20, 2023
Toks2008:


Habba why are you scatter yarning?

When you commit forgery, you can't un-commit it.

See incase you all don't know, if found guilty of forgery it will simply mean that he doesn't even have a secondary school cert cos if you used another person's cert to gain admission, it means you don't even have any and by extension, your university degree will be voided.

Tinubu can always sit for GCE

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 2:19am On Sep 20, 2023
a4cube:
How are you 100% sure the issuing authority will not testify against him if he forged the certificate?

They are defending him already.even if they do,it is timebarred

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by a4cube: 2:21am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Tinubu can simply write and present gce or any vocational or professional certificate equivalent to school cert
You should be ashamed of yourself for writing this. You indirectly admitted he has no certificate by suggesting he provide another lower qualification( Probably forged from a school in Nigeria) to the one he forged.

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 2:21am On Sep 20, 2023
Toks2008:


There are ways of spinning things.

CSO has said THEY CAN NOT UNDER OATH AUTHENTICATE THE CERTIFICATE TINUBU PROVIDED TO INEC... this is a clear indictment even if it does not expressly prove Tinubu forged.

Now read again what CSU is asked to produce and marry it with the petition of Atiku.

Now incase you don't know, the records to be released has been released already last year to Enahoro and the certificate bears F which is a female.

Tinubu admits already that the F was a mistake by CSU (This is another indictment)

So let's see how it goes.

What was released to enahoro containing F was his transcript from Daley college which he never submitted to inec so that is useless in court.it was the school lawyer that said he cannot authenticate who isn't the right authority to do so.the most competent authority for CSU documents is the registrar who already affirmed tinubu via an affidavit.case closed

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Naija2023: 2:22am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Tinubu can simply write and present gce or any vocational or professional certificate equivalent to school cert

Tinubu doesn't need to write any exams.

he will simply use the documents CSU gave to Atiku for 2027

atleast it has been confirmed that he attended CSU and got CSU certificate.

Atiku just ended up helping Tinubu to eliminate any certificate controversy in 2027

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by garfield1: 2:22am On Sep 20, 2023
a4cube:
You should be ashamed of yourself for writing this. You indirectly admitted he has no certificate by suggesting he provide another lower qualification( Probably forged from a school in Nigeria) to the one he forged.

I am saying that he didn't forge anything but however,atiku and obi have lost this so rest

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by a4cube: 2:23am On Sep 20, 2023
garfield1:


Tinubu can always sit for GCE
Sit for gce and back date it to qualify him for the election he has contested already. How is that possible?

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Re: Judge In Illinois, Chicago Ordered The Release Of Tinubu Academic Records by Toks2008(m): 2:24am On Sep 20, 2023
a4cube:
Sit for gce and back date it to qualify him for the election he has contested already. How is that possible?


Don't mind the guy.

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