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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:47pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


I doubt you followed and watched Ronaldo more than me. Or have an idea how good he was compared to me.

I am saying the modern game is a different ball game. It is a simple fact. Ronaldo would find it far more difficult now than then.
We've given you examples of players doing it coolly in this "modern game" you speak of.

Rather, "the modern game" is trying to even out the field with mechanical football. Dribbling is a work of flair. Flair is an instinct. It is not coached in.

The football world now has a dearth of players with flair. Nothing is "more difficult" now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:49pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Never scored a solo goal like he used to do for fun in the early Santos era at Barcelona.
You tell bold faced lies now and then so I'm not surprised.

I still remember his goal against Juventus easily

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:52pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
We've given you examples of players doing it coolly in this "modern game" you speak of.

Rather, "the modern game" is trying to even out the field with mechanical football. Dribbling is a work of flair. Flair is an instinct. It is not coached in.

The football world now has a dearth of players with flair. Nothing is "more difficult" now

Go and watch these players you call "dearth of players with flair freestyle". They literally can pull off these skills with ease.

But tactical defending requires unison in approach in stopping players. Spending time on the ball is catastrophic to the game. It is not that players can't pull this tricks off but the way the game is played makes it difficult.

That is why I said the likes of Ronaldo will find it difficult now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:52pm On Sep 20, 2023
Heck even Heung Min-Son scores solo goals every season.

This overestimation of the bland mechanical football they call "modern game" has to stop.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:52pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
You tell bold faced lies now and then so I'm not surprised.

I still remember his goal against Juventus easily

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:53pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Heck even Heung Min-Son scores solo goals every season.

This overestimation of the bland mechanical football they call "modern game" has to stop.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:54pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Go and watch these players you call "dearth of players with flair freestyle". They literally can pull off these skills with ease.

But tactical defending requires unison in approach in stopping players. Spending time on the ball is catastrophic to the game. It is not that players can't pull this tricks off but the way the game is played makes it difficult.

That is why I said the likes of Ronaldo will find it difficult now.
1. No they cannot
2. Spending time on the ball without IDEA & INTENT is what is catastrophic
3. Again, players that can pull it off are a rarity now because they simply CANNOT

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
Catenaccio capital at the time. Serie A teams at the time were notorious for being hard to score against.

The only plausible argument one can put forward for today's era is that modern players are more athletic but I'm 100% sure if the likes of Pele, Maradona, R9 etc were exposed to today's training methods and coaches what Messi and CR7 are doing will be like child's play.

Odunayaw:
Then that's a poor example because all teams don't play like ATM

It's even poorer because that assumes R9 didn't play ultra defensive teams. That badass played in Serie A fgs.


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


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Puskas 2020 winner for example

Don't feign laziness. It further crumbles your position.

Type any player you want on YouTube and add "solo goals" and come back

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:57pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Heck even Heung Min-Son scores solo goals every season.

This overestimation of the bland mechanical football they call "modern game" has to stop.

By the way, understand the point. Ronaldo made multiple brilliant Solo runs per game. Sometimes 4 or 5. Scored brilliant Solo goals easily. It is no more like that. You guys call it a dearth in talent but I am telling you guys that it is not dearth in talent but growth in tactical defending.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:57pm On Sep 20, 2023

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:58pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Puskas 2020 winner for example

Don't feign laziness. It further crumbles your position.

Type any player you want on YouTube and add "solo goals" and come back

Post the clip. Than teaching me how to use YouTube search.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:59pm On Sep 20, 2023
chrisooblog:
Catenaccio capital at the time. Serie A teams at the time were notorious for being hard to score against.

The only plausible argument one can put forward for today's era is that modern players are more athletic but I'm 100% sure if the likes of Pele, Maradona, R9 etc were exposed to today's training methods and coaches what Messi and CR7 are doing will be like child's play.

These days na overestimation go injure these people.

Athleticism can be coached into people. You see that flair? It's either you have it or not.

Now add athleticism, game interpretation to flair cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:01pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


By the way, understand the point. Ronaldo made multiple brilliant Solo runs per game. Sometimes 4 or 5. Scored brilliant Solo goals easily. It is no more like that. You guys call it a dearth in talent but I am telling you guys that it is not dearth in talent but growth in tactical defending.
Oga what is recorded on scoreboards? What is more proving of artistry? What is remembered most?

Solo runs only or solo runs that produce goals.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:02pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Post the clip. Than teaching me how to use YouTube search.
grin If it was to go dig an out of context speech, you'd have flooded it.

C'mon go to YouTube and cure yourself joor

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:03pm On Sep 20, 2023
Pele, Maradona that they will man-mark pack four five players to stop them, many times it wouldn't work and the occasions it did they will just give an intelligent pass to a free teammate.

How will you 'tactically defend' against such outrageous skills in today's era?

Odunayaw:

1. No they cannot
2. Spending time on the ball without IDEA & INTENT is what is catastrophic
3. Again, players that can pull it off are a rarity now because they simply CANNOT

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:04pm On Sep 20, 2023
chrisooblog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SATljljXCY


Thank you. First of all, good goal. Things I would point out. It was a direct run and not mazy. But the frequency is the difference. In the past, Ikedia alone would pulls loads of unstoppable mazy runs per game.

And look, that direct run got goal of the year.

In the time for Ronaldo, it won't make it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:04pm On Sep 20, 2023
I don post am but I'm sure he go still argue

Odunayaw:
grin If it was to go dig an out of context speech, you'd have flooded it.

C'mon go to YouTube and cure yourself joor

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:05pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
grin If it was to go dig an out of context speech, you'd have flooded it.

C'mon go to YouTube and cure yourself joor

LOL. Please, defending is far more difficult now. Arguing against this is arguing against pure fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:06pm On Sep 20, 2023
When someone classified the likes of Gabriel Jesus and Coutinho as superstars is when I knew standards have fallen
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:10pm On Sep 20, 2023
chrisooblog:
Pele, Maradona that they will man-mark pack four five players to stop them, many times it wouldn't work and the occasions it did they will just give an intelligent pass to a free teammate.

How will you 'tactically defend' against such outrageous skills in today's era?

That was how Europe overestimated itself in Pele's time and their clubs were soundly defeated in his tour games.

Not all footballers are created equal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:11pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


LOL. Please, defending is far more difficult now. Arguing against this is arguing against pure fact.
The fact is the calibre of the greats is missing in this generation.

Basically football has been dumbed down to accommodate the less gifted

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:13pm On Sep 20, 2023
chrisooblog:
I don post am but I'm sure he go still argue

Once you search the word "argue" on Google they'd bring out Joe's picture grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:19pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
They ought to divide up the broadcast rights.

Propel Sports actually bring an advantage in the long run; low cost of production of games.
The other two will do things the traditional way and that means realistically they would strain [logistically] if they are sole owner of the rights.

However Startimes and MultiChoice are entrenched here already. They wouldn't need to go out of their way to attract eyes.

Propel will need miracles to gain that acceptance in a short time.

So what to do? Divide up the rights.

But me no go hold my breath on anything sha. Na dem sabi


The reports have it that supersport aren't that keen on getting the TV rights... They're being careful so they don't run a loss like the last time they were televising the league.... I doubt they will want to divide the right with a competitor like startimes..

But why aren't our local stations bidding for it,? In fact why dont our local stations show much of live football anymore? Back then the likes of AIT, Galaxy TV and STV used to broadcast at least one PL and UCL games evrry week...today, na so so politics....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:31pm On Sep 20, 2023
Danielnino00:



The reports have it that supersport aren't that keen on getting the TV rights... They're being careful so they don't run a loss like the last time they were televising the league.... I doubt they will want to divide the right with a competitor like startimes..

But why aren't our local stations bidding for it,? In fact why dont our local stations show much of live football anymore? Back then the likes of AIT, Galaxy TV and STV used to broadcast at least one PL and UCL games evrry week...today, na so so politics....
I no even too gbadun SuperSports before sha.

I think one of the things that messed up our local stations na brain drain. Everybody de Japa go live ordinary lives elsewhere
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:40pm On Sep 20, 2023
Abeg...make una talk another thing. TGJ no go gree even if the argument continue till next year.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:43pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
When someone classified the likes of Gabriel Jesus and Coutinho as superstars is when I knew standards have fallen
I swear 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:45pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Once you search the word "argue" on Google they'd bring out Joe's picture grin
na wetin mk me Dey avoid am of late

On top the arguement him no go even know when em start to contradict himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It will take Brazil almost a century to hv another R9. A player many regards as the best number 9 ever

He had it all, over complete Dey worry am
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:48pm On Sep 20, 2023
Even common search for google go tell u that De Lima is the best number 9 ever

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 4:53pm On Sep 20, 2023
How can one man take on the whole army of nairaland SE sports section.

Are u sure we are not arguing with a kind of a programmed BOT where it's data is stored in a database somewhere to engage us all.
Thegoodjoe my man.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:54pm On Sep 20, 2023
charlesemeka85:
na wetin mk me Dey avoid am of late

On top the arguement him no go even know when em start to contradict himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It will take Brazil almost a century to hv another R9. A player many regards as the best number 9 ever

He had it all, over complete Dey worry am
cheesy I de usually zero my mind say him go still wear him opinion like helmet no matter wetin you talk.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 4:59pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:



LOL. Goalkeepers that can't use their feet in the first place.

Now am over shocked,

pls continue in your sober grendour

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