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Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by YourGFsnatcher: 12:46pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
DomPerignon: Only people with envy see juluis caesar as a villain. Caesar conquered all the important nations even to Scandinavian country for Rome, and was loved by the lower class. Your assertions that Romans don't like him is completely false. Caesar was loved by the lower class. If they don't like him, why was there civil war after his assassination? Why were the conspirators lynched and murdered? The conspirators that that were at home all through but filled with envy because of his achievements. Why didn't they go to war? Why didn't they achieve what he achieved? Does he not deserve to be emperor with what he has achieved. As someone that has led a lot of groups and teams, I have discovered that people are always jealous of leaders that made actual impact for they envy them and feel it should be them with such achievements. The worst thing is when you give them chance they will run everything down because it is only envy they can contribute. They have no thing of value to bring aside envy. Anyone that thinks caesar deserved what he got is not a non-achiever that's jealous of people that have actually done something great. Because I know u can't tell me one thing that is great that his killers have done in Rome. Can you? 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by YourGFsnatcher: 12:47pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
DomPerignon:Only people with envy see juluis caesar as a villain. Caesar conquered all the important nations even to Scandinavian country for Rome, and was loved by the lower class. Your assertions that Romans don't like him is completely false. Caesar was loved by the lower class. If they don't like him, why was there civil war after his assassination? Why were the conspirators lynched and murdered? The conspirators that that were at home all through but filled with envy because of his achievements. Why didn't they go to war? Why didn't they achieve what he achieved? Does he not deserve to be emperor with what he has achieved. As someone that has led a lot of groups and teams, I have discovered that people are always jealous of leaders that made actual impact for they envy them and feel it should be them with such achievements. The worst thing is when you give them chance they will run everything down because it is only envy they can contribute. They have no thing of value to bring aside envy. Anyone that thinks caesar deserved what he got is not a non-achiever that's jealous of people that have actually done something great. Because I know u can't tell me one thing that is great that his murders have done in Rome. Can you? |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Fountainofyouth(f): 1:21pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: You atheists will never succumb to defeat when faced with obvious facts, I blame myself for quoting you in the first place This is my last response to you on this thread and anywhere, and I'll appreciate if you do same. 5 Likes |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Wisereborn: 2:14pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
butterfly777:No one would wish a Brutus for a friend |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 2:49pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Fountainofyouth:Defeat, what point did you raised that made you think won something. Atheism strives on fact check. Yeah run along, go preach for people with lesser mind power and avoid the monicker blakjewelry anytime lol. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by EKOSuperior(m): 2:59pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
The conspirators were so jealous of Caesar's increasing personality and the magnitude of power he controls, in the word of Cassius, one of the conspirators "he doth bestride the narrow world like a Colossus" but Caesar a proud and fulfilled man declares, "I am constant as the Northern Star, of whose true fixed and resting quality there is no fellow in the firmament. Even when Caesar's wife warned him about going to the Senate House that morning, pride couldn't allow him heed the warning, he went further to declare: "cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once. Of all the wonders that I yet have heard, It seems to me most strange that men should fear; Seeing that death, a necessary end, Will come when it will come." |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 3:11pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Mpanyi:When you believe in something miracle do happen, all those who believes in a deity can attest to it that they must experience one form miracle or another, yet there are still time they call on their deity and he did not answer. Now it happens to different people of different religions I will use Christian as example if you don't mind since we are having a decent conversation. Now a Christian is inside a vehicle which is involved in car crashed, the Christian shouts Jesus in some cases he lives to tells the testimony in church and everyone is happy and sees how powerful Jesus is, while other times shouted same but end up dead not because he is a worse sinner but because nature happened but what does people say? God knows best, same cut across different religious beliefs. Miracles are abound in all religions but to me all that I painted above are nothing but a combination of physical process. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by VULCAN(m): 3:56pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Your contribution would have been perfect if not your assertion that Caesar was a tyrant. That submission is a bit ignorant. He was actually an exceptional leader. Yes, he had excesses like most men who have absolute power but he was loved by the masses. That is why they wiped out his murderers. Could that have happened if the people hated him? The irony that their murderers actions led to the very thing they were afraid of is a lesson we should all learn. Fear leads one down a dark path if you let it. Wisereborn: |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by LtChisom: 4:05pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
DomPerignon: AS MC plomo is acting in the interest of Nigeria.
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Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by DrTee1(m): 4:15pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
osuofia2: I do not think that leadership has anything to do with skin colour. I think that Sub Saharan Africa has a lot of catching up to do, while dealing actively with external aggression from the developed economies of the West and internal subversion aided or sometimes instigated by agents of the Western/developed world. Should Africa get it right, like Thomas Sankara and people like Mummar Ghadaffi sought to establish African self-sustainability, there would be economic challenges in the West, as they would have markets to export their finished and processed goods too. So it is a desperate cat and mouse game. Unfortunately, we have destroyed ourselves so badly by lowering standards and value of education through bribery and corruption that we cannot see these things. What is worse is that the average one amongst us just ones to be in the eye of the public 'enjoying' and 'spending'. You wouldn't see that in England or Switzerland. You wouldn't see the average European buying the luxuries we desperately seek here the way we do. There are credit schemes for almost everything in Europe and the West. When they are tired of whatever merchandise, they either recycle to produce something new or ship the waste to Africa, where African modern slaves in Europe jump at it to send it home as 'Belgium' or 'Tokunbo'. They do not jump at the newest iPhones in that manner that we do. Even when they do, they trade their old ones in for the newer models on their credit cards. The old ones then come to Africa as 'UK used', making their economy gain double - mortgage from the original user and full payment from the importer while using the same opportunity to dispose what would have been electronic waste! We simply have to think out of the box and generally import less finished products while exporting more finished products in order to balance trade. Our penchant for luxuries like artificial hair and expensive alcohol/wines, which is one of our biggest imports, is another of our undoings. We must also rid out examination malpractices and miracle centres and raise the wages of teachers which consequently raise the minimum educational standards in that country and improve the critical thinking capacity of the average Nigerian. It has nothing to do with skin colour, really. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by LtChisom: 4:15pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Weathered: you'd need to degrade your IQ to be able to understand an agbadorian philosophy. It was conjured in the Miserablest furnace of hell. 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Amayabor1: 4:24pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: You are trying so hard to sound intelligent. Lol. I am a Christian because i believe in the Jesus Christ. Christianity doesn't preach violence against any religion or person. Do you know what Christianity is? Christianity is based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. What Jesus didn't instruct, we as christians do not practice it. In the old testament, sometimes, God instructed the isrealites to wage wars against other nations. Other nations were also waging wars against isreal. The instruction to wage war or defend against war was given to the isrealites in the old testament. This is the new testament era. Christianity was born after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. No where did God or Jesus ask Christians to kill anyone who doesn't believe in him. But for islam, their Mohammed instructed all Muslims to kill infidels. Since you read your so called book and your eyes became open, how has it helped you? So you that have read a book and your eyes are now open, you are better than others that practice Christianity or islam? Since your eyes have been opened, how has it affected your life positively? Go and sit down! 3 Likes |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Mpanyi: 4:24pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: ...a combination of physical process. At least I know who I am discussing with: an atheist. I love atheists that are well convinced in their belief, not atheists of convenience. But first let's know there is nothing like miracle in atheism or should I say science, at least as christians or other adherents of other religions. To start with, for me , why I love being a Christian is because of teachings and love of Jesus. Love! Not necessarily miracles. Love, that's a masterpiece for a lovely and humane world! The life of some so-called Christians shouldn't make us think otherwise. Now for miracles, especially when it comes to calling the name Jesus. First you should know that many people abuse that name against biblical injunction. So how can the name you abuse come to your aid when necessary? It's almost impossible. Scripture makes us know that at the last day he will reject many that claim He is their Lord by telling them he doesn't know them. Am I saying people that called on the name in danger and them became victims at the end of the day were sinners or bad followers? Not at all. He made us know his way is not our (human's) way. If His way is our way, it means we are the same with him. 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 4:47pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Amayabor1:The funny about you guys is accept the old testament and discard it when suit you. Oh we are not of the old testament because we are of christ but you forget without the old testament there will be no Jesus no Christianity. One is because the other existed in the first place. Secondly are you telling Christian has a better life because the last I check it's far from it, cos you guys always use that line how is your life better did I come pouring life's problem to you? Lol. Check up there, there billionaires who are Christians, Buddhist, atheist and all up there it doest your believe the rule of life applies to all. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 5:10pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Mpanyi:I use the term miracle because when it happens to religionus person they see it as a miracle irrespective of the type religion they belong because they see it as Devine intervention but to scientific mind, it's just a series of physical event and action that took place in time, infact some ancient folks have a better explanation. They believe the god had a pact not to interact with man's activities though every once in a while some of the gods do sneak an intervene lol. Finally the calling of the name is suppose to work every time for a Christian but it isn't the case. Sometimes those who worse off are save whereas those who are better end up dead even they pray before leaving infact some even pray inside the car, why am I saying all these, because you talked about a god more power than another God, they are all the same the only strength they have is the power of the people who worship them. Israel is one of ancient nations today, they live long enough to understand that real power comes the tools and arm you have and not from prayers. BTW I am not against any religion because it help to control and contain a lot of maniac who would been running wild if there is nothing holding them back. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Amayabor1: 5:45pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: I don't know why you are wailing about who other people worship and how they worship. You said you have read a book that opened your eyes. I said no problem, good for you. Allow Christians to worship their God in peace. No one is forcing you to come to Christianity. So don't force others to tow your path. If tomorrow you say you want to start worshiping Ogun or any other deity, good for you. It is your life. You are an adult. Allow others to worship or belong to any religion they so please. Drink water, face your life and continue to read more books so your eyes can continue to open. ππ ππ And please, go to google and ask about the origin of Christianity. Stop showing ignorance here. 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Mpanyi: 5:53pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: Miracle...series of physical events...lol Nothing like series of physical events if it cannot be scientifically and empirically explained. That series of events should be explained, or at least a logical hypothesis be given for it. But we should know hypothesis is just intelligent guess and not a proof or explanation anything. You know why I love science? They will just use words like no scientific explanation or without proof or words like that. But they can't offer any explanation. Let me give you an example that miracle is a supernatural thing and not a natural thing. A normal car without airbag doing 140 had a head-on coll with a truck doing same 140. The driver of the truck died from the impact. The driver of the car survived with no injury. I know with my small knowledge of physics that no living thing in the car should survive the impact of the collision. No science can explain that as there was not even an airbag to have been deployed, not that an airbag would have been of any help in that situation. I am not saying whether the person is a Christian or not. I'm just talking about miracle. Another one, somebody in terminal stage of cancer recovered overnight, no trace of any cancerous cells. My brother, there is no scientific explanation for the recovery. It's just a supernatural event. It's a miracle. Calling on the name Jesus "should not work all the time" as it's not a scientific formula you can always predict the outcome. Having it work all the time like a scientific formula is like predicting God, just as I explained earlier. What we will be asking is if there's power in it. Of which, the answer is yes! Prayers and works are two different things, even though they may be complementing. Any person or nation that only prays and not work is doomed. You said you were once a Christian. But we know many people always claim they once were when in actual sense they never were as they knew next to nothing about their former faith. If you understand the scripture, you will see a superinjuction of God to man to conquer the earth. You will also know human was advised to work six days and rest on the seventh day. So you can see there is a misconception somewhere about praying and not working as you alluded to. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Cute9gerian: 6:02pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
djon78: Quotes like this shows that you know nothing about history. What weβre Africans doing then? Really?? Donβt ever insult the motherland like this again! Ever! |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by dfrost: 7:19pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
caracas: You meant what he meant or said? |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Snapdrag0n: 7:33pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
EmperorCaesar:Wow! Your point has silenced many. I've learnt something. The bible is true! Jesus Christ is true! 2 Likes |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by djon78(m): 8:17pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Cute9gerian: I asked a very simple question What were Africans doing then? Is there any written documents anywhere concerning Africa Even the Chinese, Indians, Koreans have documented written of there history 2000years ago The only documented African country is Ethiopia. It was known as cush in the Bible Simon of Cyrene that helped Christ to carry his Cross on the way to crucifiction was a black man And in the book of Acts in the Bible the Ethiopian Eunuch was mentioned This is an intellectual discuss Not fighting Thanks 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Abdulhakeem7(m): 8:33pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
[quote author=Xscape1993 post=125971825]The wickedness of men from the time of old...[/rrrr4quote] |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by djon78(m): 8:46pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Snapdrag0n: Before nko The Bible is very true The Bible is one of the most authentic documented history Even past emperor's marveled at the Bible Example Alexander the great was so marveled by the Biblical prophecies which talked about him that he never touched Jerusalem during his global conquest He was the one that defeated and ended the Persian empire(present day Iran) by defeating King Darius Because of his respect for the Bible Alexander the great didn't touch Jerusalem It was documented that he passed through Jerusalem during one of his conquest trips and was received by the High priest that was the ruler of Jerusalem then at the entrance of Jerusalem The High priest promised him that Jewish children will be named Alexander That's how Jews then began bearing the name Alexander The Jews had good relationship with Greece empire It was the Romans that dealt with the Jews when they ruled the then world after the fall of Greek empire The Romans destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70 when they burned the temple of Solomon in Jerusalem and confiscated the gold Solomon lavished in building the temple in Jerusalem The Jews were dispersed away from there Homeland for over 2000 years until 1947 after the fall of Hitler in 1945 when he killed 6 million Jews in concentration camps during the Holocaust Josephus the historian wrote that actually the Jews brought the calamity of the Roman destruction of AD 70 after there rejection of Christ The Bible documented that Christ wept during his triumphant entry into Jerusalem when he spoke woes unto Jerusalem before he was crucified Josephus the historian said that the Jews sealed there Faith when ponitus Pilate the Roman administrator of Jerusalem wanted to stop Christ being crucified The Jews said no that he should free Barabbas a notorious criminal Pilate now called for water and washed his hands that he is free of Christ's guilt That the repercussions of crucifying Christ should be on the Jews Head It was documented that the Jews said let the repercussions fall on them and there children Josephus the historian wrote that the Jews sealed there Faith and the repercussions they wished on themselves and their children was fulfilled when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70 Burnt Solomon's temple down Looted the gold's Solomon used to construct the temple And dispersed the Jews as refugees and vagabonds to the Earth for over 2000 years The Jews were vagabonds and they dweled predominantly in Europe, Arabic world, Persia etc Prophet Muhammad during his existence interacted with many Jewish people and also he interacted with Catholic priests and monks History is powerful 2 Likes |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 8:50pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Mpanyi:While you paint a good picture, there are several scientific factors you are ignoring can actually make car driver survive and not the trailer driver, the angle of collision is a factor, whether the driver put on his seat is a factor, post collision factor is also one. Now while these might sound vague to you, to a train expert all these matter a lot sometimes a slight variation can results to life or death. Even though I disagree with Christianity on a lot of issues, there are some I respect a lot very few though like matthew kukah. What I find most annoying is these new generational churches who after listening to whatever there go tells them without read 1inch of the Bible and start jumping very discussion with a lot of sentiment. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 9:00pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Amayabor1:Asking to use Google, kids. I bet you are still in primary school when I start reading about early Christian origin and other Jewish text. You are a novice in all these matter, I doubt even your go is verse. See atheism is nothing for everyone, we need religion chain some maniac because without the fear of after I wonder the kind of monsters that will be let loose. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Amayabor1: 9:56pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: Lol. Ode! I was in primary school when you started reading early Christian origin and you do not know that Christianity as a religion was birthed after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I was in primary school when you started reading about jewish text and you can't construct simple and correct English. With all the knowledge you know about the jewish religion, Christianity and atheism, how has it improved your life? Don't go look for ways to better your life. Be online criticizing how people choose to worship their God. And by the way, why are you an aethist? I thought you would have been a traditional worshipper since you believe in our gods. So you that is an aethist is wise and is free from mental slavery while those who are religious are foolish and need to be liberated from their mental slavery? Ozuor! ππ Confused clown! Believe in whatever you want to believe in or do not believe in anything. Your cup of tea! E nor concern anybody and no one actually cares! |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by osuofia2(m): 9:58pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
DrTee1:All you have said still lead to black mentality. Go to America and see the blacks, even in the midst of opportunities they still blame the white. They live and depends on govt pay checks. Blacks are greedy and insatiable. Talk of Charity how many blacks will their estate to charity, business longevity, Imagine club like real Madrid, how many years and still existing. Which black man business will live so? Blacks problem yapka and the white ain't responsible for it. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 10:22pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Amayabor1:Mr English instructor go back and read all post on Nairaland see if you can't find a lot mistakes made by you. Also you are just doing what your kind knows how to do when they can't put up a good argument, they resort personal attack. Like I pointed out, religion is very important because it keeps maniac like you in check. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by djon78(m): 10:42pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
DrTee1: The problem we have is that Africa doesn't have the fundamentals that these Asian countries had Most importantly is sound visionary leaders Singapore had Prime Minister Lee Kuan yew who Developed the blueprint and template Singapore is using till today since 1960s Malaysia had Muhammad Mahatir who Developed the blueprint and template for Malaysia since 1970s China had Chairman Mao who set the foundation for Chinas Development since 1960s Even Vietnam that fought war with the US in the 1970s also set up same vision. Today there Economy is doing massively. Even Bangladesh is doing well Japan the baba of Asia had Always been Developed since the beginning of 19th century Japan was so Developed they fought the second world war as allies of Hitler with there factories producing the ammunition's used in the war So Africa don't have the fundamentals of good visionary leadership Which is our bane The bit sound leaders we had small was during the first republic: Awolowo, Azikiwe, Ahmadu Bello Now we don't have such Calibre of visionary responsible leadership |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Weathered: 10:53pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
LtChisom:lolz |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by djon78(m): 10:57pm On Sep 24, 2023 |
Israel07: I think you can use the internet especially Google to search out ancient articles written by some old authors example search out on Josephus the historian He documented a lot Although I got lots of my knowledge as a young kid My parents filled out house with encyclopedia then in the late eighties and 1990s I am presently in my forties so it's been a lifelong work Exposure to encyclopedia as a kid made me research conscious And now Google has made everything easy You can search out anything on Google now |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by OgaRico(m): 2:00am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Your question wasn't simple as you may think or as you think. As an African, you can agree with me that our stories are mostly told rather than being written and so when you ask if there is any written record(s)documents) concerning Africa, then it seems somehow to me. Africans generally pass down informations through words and we both know that over time some of these informations will be forgotten due to newer events or stories being told. Take for instance, as an African; do you write down every activities of yours on a daily or maybe part of your core daily activities in any book, so that you can refer to in the future or better still, do you snap pictures or make video recordings everyday for record purpose? To me, because they're no written documents concerning Africa that we can hold on to like our European counterparts doesn't mean Africa/Africans were doing nothing. If maybe there is nothing like written records, I bet you won't be asking this question. djon78: |
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