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Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Amayabor1: 4:28am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: Ode! šš If religion is good because it keeps maniacs like me in check, why not allow us practice our religion in peace? š š So you that is not practicing any religion is not a maniac? It is only those who are practicing their religion in peace and not disturbing anyone that are maniacs? What if i become an aethist or a Muslim tomorrow, will i still be a maniac? Illiterate Clown! š šš š. Allow people practice their religion in peace. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Cute9gerian: 6:24am On Sep 25, 2023 |
djon78: The reason Africa has little to no written history is e cause most of her history were erased and stolen after she was conquered by the Europeans. Even. Take places like the Benin people of Nigeria which had the greatest wall ever built in known history till this day. They even had street lights 300 years before the Europeans could even think of one and her vast majority of her artifacts which were stolen and currently displayed in the British museums today. Africans progression was only halted due to countless invasions by the Europeans and Arabs alike. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by djon78(m): 6:58am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Cute9gerian: Ok.i agree to what you said Like you mentioned Benin was one of the most powerful kingdoms Also like you highlighted invasions by the Europeans and the Arabs was true The Arabs were even worse than the Europeans because they were involved in trans Saharan slave Trade which was hundreds of years before the transatlantic slave trade done by the Europeans to the new world It was highlighted that African slaves transacted across Sahara dessert by the Arabs were 20 times more than the ones the Europeans sent to the new world America African scholars like ibn batuta who lived more than 1000years ago highlighted some of these things in his documents He was from around Mali side that's formerly Timbuktu and he went on pilgrimage to Mecca through the Sahara desert several times before the last one he did and his mother died and he never saw his mother again. The grief was with him till his death Two of the most prominent educated Africans of the past 1000 years were ibn batuta Islamic scholar and St Augustine a Catholic priest that lived almost 1500 years ago. 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by DrTee1(m): 7:02am On Sep 25, 2023 |
djon78: Thank you for your kind feedback. What would we say is the reason why Africa lacks this leaders IN AFRICA? I write this because many Africans OUTSIDE AFRICA have gone on to lead exemplary teams and units in Europe and America. From Sports with Mike Emenalo at Chelsea to Finance with Okonjo Iweala and Adesina to Medicine with Badero and Olutoye to Engineering with Izu - and on and on. Let's not talk about President Obama in America. He is African, even if developed in America. I think the challenge is not a lack of knowledgeable, patriotic and visionary leaders. I think that our democratic structures are subverted - intentionally - by our enemies (possibly from the West), using our people. If we look at the leaders of the Nigerian Second Republic that was truncated by Maj. Gen Buhari, there was a lot of positive development in the first four years of Shagari in 1979 - 1983. By the time they got desperate at the 1983 elections, things went pear shaped and the military found a justification to come in, unfortunately. It was not that Governors Jakande, Bola Ige, Ajasin or Ambrose Alli were not visionary and fantastic leaders. Now, they (our enemies) neutered us while we slept by 'deleting' history from our curriculum and generously lowering our educational standards to levels where nobody trusts JAMB or WAEC again but even local Universities need to conduct 'post-UTME' and JAMB sets admission marks lower than 200 every year. How?! International Universities today request that our graduates write the IELTS examination to prove that they can speak, write and understand the first of two official languages in Nigeria. It is so bad that nobody remembers that French is the second official language in Nigeria - when we don't even know how to speak the first official one. So Sir/Madam, the problem is not leadership. In my opinion, the challenge is that we do not have the critical mass of knowledgeable people in the requisite number to change the trajectory of the country. It is why Mr Peter Obi, even if he became President, would not do anything as good - if he did good - as what he did as Anambra State Governor. A man or woman can only deliver as good as the support system he or she has. Where everyone around you in the political and administrative system is of poor or suboptimal IQ, are sycophants looking to exploit or predate on the system for personal gain, then what we have is what you get. Remember that the West needs African economy to remain agrarian, regressive and 'fantastically corrupt', in the famous words of a former UK PM to the late Queen of England. For as long as that exists, we would be a net importer of finished goods and services from the developed world leaving our economy in a net deficit as compared to that of the countries that export processed goods and services. Countries that primarily export raw materials like unprocessed Agric produce and crude would always be poorer than countries that export refined fuel and luxury items like expensive wines and female artificial hair. It is simple economics. Now, if such richer exporting country knows that a man who wrote this on Nairaland aspires to be a President or Governor in this Nigerian democracy, what do you think would happen? They would make money available to his/her opposition to sway the media against such person and make the people refuse to vote for such person in order to maintain the economic status quo. That is the African problem. That is what Patrice Lumumba died over. It is what killed Tom Sankara. It caused Ghadaffi death. Ask yourself where the South African economy is today. Ask yourself why Ghana, Sierra Leone, Gambia, Congo, Congo DR, Central Africa Republic, Niger, Chad, Cameroon, Sudan, Eritrea, South Sudan, Tanzania, Ethiopia, Uganda, Mauritania and all the 53 African countries seem to fail. Ask why the economy of Silicon Valley, a place inside the State of California in USA is multiple times the economy of the whole of Africa. It is intentional. It isn't because we do not have visonary leadership. It is because our democracy has been 'carefully tuned' in Africa to ensure that poverty has been WEAPONISED to subvert what democracy should be. When that is added to lower educational standards which blunts critical thinking, what we have is what you get. The Asian Tigers like China and Dubai and Singapore didn't get it right with this Western style of democratic leadership, did they? The West would decry that kind of leadership as 'dictatorial' and undemocratic, but where we are without a knowledgeable population in the necessary number on the base of widespread poverty and lack, what we have is what one gets. Good morning. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by DrTee1(m): 7:08am On Sep 25, 2023 |
osuofia2: Is it because of their skin colour? That's a scientific question. Is it Melanin concentration, which is the only difference between the Black and the less-Black person biologically, the cause of the multitude of problems? Or it is that there are institutional restrictions, even in the most developed countries that see that Black people are restricted in larger number to the lower ends of the socio-economic ladder? You wouldn't say that Black, African-American, Hispanic and other minorities in Europe and America have been demonstrated to possess lower Intelligence Quotient in schools as compared to Caucasians, would you? 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Mpanyi: 7:11am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: For that head on collision, no plausible scientific explanation, at least going by one of Newton's laws. You did not give any plausible explanation for the cancer case? For those new generation churches thing, I understand. They created a lot of problems for Christianity, even the orthodox churches are not totally left out. 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by djon78(m): 7:16am On Sep 25, 2023 |
OgaRico: Yeah you are very right about not having a writing form of language in the ancient times. I believe these was the major bane of Africa and it's affected us till this day The Asians example had written language These ability to write gave rise to them having deep philosophers That's same pattern the Bible and Quran had These two great books has produced some of the greatest philosophy thinking since the existence of Man Take the Bible for example It has influenced humanity thousands of years before Like I mentioned Alexander the great, his grearest tutor was Aristotle It was documented that Aristotle was so much influenced by the old testament of the Bible later in his days He transferred that knowledge to his student Alexander the great and that's why Alexander never touched Jerusalem during his global conquest It was said Aristotle in his later days converted to Judaism before he died. So having a writing form of language would have perpetuated our philosophical thinking process We still have philosophical thinking process in our clime especially in form of speaking with Proverbs I am from the East and I know that when the elders commune They do so mostly in Proverbs Although we are losing it because the younger generation don't care about all these things I remember while growing up if a grown up man is spoken to in riddles and Proverbs If he doesn't understand it He is jested that the dowry paid to marry his mother was in vain I also hear deep Yoruba thinkers also always talked in riddles and Proverbs Almost all African culture have deep riddles and Proverbs which showed that our forefathers were deep thinkers and philosophers Thanks 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by TonySpike: 7:23am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Fountainofyouth: The rebellion of Spartacus sparked the Roman Slaves War.... 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by djon78(m): 7:29am On Sep 25, 2023 |
DrTee1: Yeah I totally agree with you We don't have the critical mass of knowledgeable people to effect positive change But from my own angle we can't fold up our hands and allow things get so bad Example look at the havoc this past Buharis government caused in Nigeria Messed up our economy Now almost all our best brains are leaving the country Who then will Develop our place? It's very pathetic and heart breaking But we must never give up Each one of us must find ways to do our own little within our sphere of influence That's is my modus operandi now If we don't do even the little we can This Nation and continent will be sold out to the dogs, the worst of us God forbid bad thing!!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by DrTee1(m): 7:41am On Sep 25, 2023 |
djon78: No, we should not fold our arms. We cannot afford to. One of the ways not to fold out arms is what we are doing here. We cannot recruit the right number into the knowledgeable critical mass IF we do not spell out how we got here so that our people do not get distracted when we begin to act to right the wrongs. That's usually the problem. It is a "cooking stage". We must get the right amount of ingredients and condiments as the case may be and "cook" it for long enough so that we don't get spoilt along the line. The people, and systems, that profit from the squalor we have in Africa today are not going to give up easily. So this has little or nothing to do with religion or prayers but the right education and mobilisation first. The citizenry and average populace are worse than the leadership, we've got to realise that. The citizens voted the leaders. So there must be no rush in fixing this system problem. Our enemies are as many within us as the ones outside our country and continent. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by razzydoo(m): 8:25am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Fountainofyouth:you know Iām gaslighting, yet choose to respond. Says a lot about you. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 8:44am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Amayabor1:I see I am discussing with a fool, it's public space did I come preaching to you to abandon your religion? Someone called out atheist saying some argue the very existence of Jesus while pointing out he was born during the era of a ceaser and tried to correct the impress and we were having a healthy discussion until idiots like you who are easily pained once you hear the world religion. And yes without religion some people like you will be running mad because while you are expected to behave within an expected rules, you are here running around here on Nairaland attacking and calling people Ode here and there, oh I forget its an impulsive behavior, a testament to your upbringing. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Amayabor1: 10:36am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: Infact they call on them and they answer just like you believe today but according to you today, you had laugh at their foolish whereas you are in the same boat That was your message above. You started the insult. Now, the insults is being returned to you, you are wailing. Clown, go get a life! |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by djon78(m): 12:00pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
DrTee1: Very well stated Thanks for this!! 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Cute9gerian: 1:23pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
djon78: Facts! Great to learn a few new things from you also šš½ 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by OgaRico(m): 6:38pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Well said brother. And surprisingly, it seems we are not ready to fix these issues up. Like you mentioned, the proverbs and riddles era is fast leaving us and yet we are not trying to join the rest of the world in keeping written records or other forms of documentation. I just hope we wake up soon. Even if it not exactly the same format used by our counterparts from around the world, at least we should have our own way of keeping our records for future references. djon78: |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 8:31pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Amayabor1:The quote you made just exposed the type of person I have been wasting my time on. For record, that quote is not directed to particular religion. If you trace the origin of man back to the ancient Egyptian and the Mesopotamians, there exist a strong and popular belief system which thrives then but with fall of empire so goes the religion and the newer generations sees those old believe system which once through as myth, infact they might even laugh at them for believing in such things. Now let compare that with Judaism. From the Egyptians to the Mesopotamians to more recent era which is the Roman era, Judaism or what people called the old testament god was less known God but the powerful ruling nations have there gods well known and was worship far and wide but today are all regarded as myth but I guess its too much for your small coconut head to understand, anyways no wasting my time on you. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Amayabor1: 8:57pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: What is this one saying? First, in a public forum, always try your best to write in good and complete English so others can understand what you are saying. I actually do not understand the jargons you wrote there and i don't have the strength to stress myself trying to understand your point. Secondly, i was telling you that you started the insults, not me. I don't know how this your comment relates to who started the insults that I was talking about. We were having a discuss when you indirectly insulted me by telling me I am in the same boat with other foolish people. So i insulted you too. Any other thing you say is your cup of tea. I am a Christian. You can continue being an aethist! This was your insult!
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Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 9:47pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Amayabor1:I understand when you are coming from the street, everything look war to you. Same boat simply means while you are laughing at older and forgone religion as been foolish, other will still do same to yours in the future. If that is not clear enough then go drink sniper and die so you can be in paradise. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Amayabor1: 4:02am On Sep 26, 2023 |
Blakjewelry: Look at what an adult is writing. Illiterate, go and sleep since it appears you don't even understand the English which you wrote to insult someone else. I guess when you were supposed to be in class, you were reading religious books so you can escape "mental slavery". š ššš |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Edu93: 7:17am On Sep 26, 2023 |
EmperorCaesar:Did you mean Alexander the Great? Cause Julius Caesar existed way before Alexander was even born |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Blakjewelry(m): 9:13am On Sep 26, 2023 |
Amayabor1:Mumu. Your way of reasoning speaks a lot about you, even when I tried to break it down Mumu go always be Mumu. |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Bnno: 2:22pm On Sep 27, 2023 |
Walai:please can u give me the old 45yo olosho contact |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by Zhunnurayn(m): 12:28am On Oct 12, 2023 |
DomPerignon:I have left nairaland membership for months and only logged in guest mode. But youur enlightening posts made me come back 1 Like |
Re: The Gruesome Murder Of The Roman Emperor - Julius Caesar (Throwback) by DomPerignon: 1:21am On Oct 14, 2023 |
Zhunnurayn: You are most welcomed |
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