MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa you goofed big time!
All the sects in the first century had different teachings yet they all agreed that they're on the same page just as you churchgoers do today. Only Jesus and his disciples had the same line of thought like Jehovah's Witnesses today.
So all those different sects formed alliance against Jesus and his disciples just as you are doing today yet what's the main reason why you're all calling upon JWs?
Simply due to the fact that we stand out among all of you saying we're not on the same page with you people.
Apart from that all the religions claiming Christians are confused in their contradicting teachings just as all the first century Jewish sects were confused in their contrasting doctrines!

MaxInDHouse:
Foooool!

MaxInDHouse: So you that you've been addressing me like the above for years simply because i said you and i aren't on the same page it's you that's talking like God's people?

johnw47:

true you do stand out!

johnw47:

defeater of six fully armed military combatants single handed, and i say truths that show you to be a habitual liar etc. care to challenge me on these?

MaxInDHouse:

If you mention any religion apart from our group we will tell you point blank that they are not worshiping our God just as Jesus and his disciples insisted in the first century.
So it's you and your fellow churchgoers that are like the first century Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis who differ in doctrines and teachings yet agreed that you're on the same page claiming followers of Christ just as those first century Jewish sects claiming they're disciples of Moses yet contradicting themselves!

johnw47: true you do stand out, as sewer mouths, liars, puffed up bragarts, etc.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not stupid how come you're referring to what a trained agent of the intelligence can do as lie?
Go and make a thorough research on military intelligence then come back before arguing like a kid regarding what you don't know.

johnw47:

you just repeating your same lies and nonsense over and over again

johnw47:

you can actually defeat six military combatants single handed

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ nah you be PHARISEE!
You're not in complete agreement with any so called church just as your fellow churchgoers also don't agree on doctrines yet you're claiming you all belong to the same God!

MaxInDHouse:
Make a research regarding military intelligence and find out if it's a lie nah!

johnw47:

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost false jw mad max 007
you so deluded, aren't you:
A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

johnw47:

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost false jw mad max 007
don't fret your fellow false jw's will believe you
A delusion of grandeur is the false belief in one's own superiority, greatness, or intelligence. People experiencing delusions of grandeur do not just have high self-esteem; instead, they believe in their own greatness and importance even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not in complete agreement with the churches around you but you're consistently criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses for not being in complete agreement with other religions, what is the evidence that you're sane?
JWs agree with all other religions that the Bible is God's word, we agree that Jesus is God's son, we agreed that we should pray in Jesus name, we agree that Jesus died for our sin, we agree that he is our redeemer and Lord.
So it's just the same as you too agree and disagree with other sects nothing different except for the fact that we disagree with you people on leadership of God's organization.
We don't agree that God is using different individuals with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines as His representatives.
So if it's not the BODY we recognized we will turn away from such doctrines and you people are forming alliance against us for that.
That's exactly what the first century Jewish sects (PHARISEES , SADDUCEES, SCRIBES and other numerous Jewish Rabbis were doing against Christ and his disciples back then!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀gbẹ́ni go and learn jàre you don't know anything!

MaxInDHouse:
You're just beating about the bush!
If you're a Christian then you should recognize the headship of a BODY that's taking the lead among God's people during the endtime {Act 2:42} this BODY is not divided against itself the way your pastors are doing where you will pick what you like from various religious leaders:
Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Oyakilome, TB Joshua, Lazarus Moaka and lots of others then conclude that you're a Christian simply because you don't want to offend members of these different religions.
True Christians are wise individuals who makes sure of those taking the lead among them through scriptural examinations {Act 17:11} Jesus told his first century Jewish disciples what will happen during the endtime that when he comes back to working with the anointed ones who has been chosen lots will happen so they were curious to know how interested individuals will be saved when Satan's agents are everywhere disguising as ministers of Christ {2Corinthians 11:14} Jesus told them that the REAL BORN AGAIN Christians will be around gathering God's sheep so they asked Jesus:
“Where, Lord?”
He said to them:
“Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together.” Luke 17:37
So if you can't IDENTIFY the BODY of anointed men representing Christ as his brothers the way EAGLES will sight what is precious from a distance i'm sorry for you! Matthew 25:41-46

MaxInDHouse:

If you're a Christian then you should recognize the headship of a BODY that's taking the lead among God's people during the endtime {Act 2:42} this BODY is not divided against itself the way your pastors are doing where you will pick what you like from various religious leaders:
Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Oyakilome, TB Joshua, Lazarus Moaka and lots of others then conclude that you're a Christian simply because you don't want to offend members of these different religions.

johnw47:

i don't have pastors and so learn nothing from them,

johnw47:

you know very well i'm not interisted in chatting with you devils mob,

MaxInDHouse:
Idiot!
You don't believe in pastors neither do you learn anything from them yet you're claiming those following them are your brothers in faith is that not first grade hypocrisy and madness?

MaxInDHouse: Do you think i'm interested in chatting with some insane like you?
Well for your information i'm setting matters straight using the full strength of the scriptures to help any right thinking follower of the thread to see the difference between a true Christian and a deluded misinformed churchgoer, between a fully competent and completely equiped Bible scholar compared to a empty barrel who is claiming believer:
"But what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to eliminate the pretext of those who are wanting a basis for being found equal to us in the things about which they boast. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ" 2Corinthians 11:12-13
So whenever you're agitating and crying over my comments i know how my comments are itching you really hard!

MaxInDHouse:


The above quotation is about which nation?

Ọmọ that's the OLD COVENANT in which God used prophets to speak to the nation of Israel {Hebrews 1:1} but at the same time Satan also did exactly the same thing by appearing and speaking to the same prophets God appeared to in dreams and visions.
For instance David was a prophet of God used to prophesy about the Christ {Psalm 110:1-3} yet Satan also used David through the same means {2Samuel 24:1; 1Chronicles 21:1} Satan tried the same thing with Jesus, after God's Holy Spirit has taken Jesus into the wilderness to instruct Jesus on how to go about his ministry {Luke 4:1} Satan also disguised as the same spirit {2Corinthians 11:14} to instruct Jesus {Luke 4:3-12} but discovered that unlike David who forgot to rely on what God had said about Abraham's descendants that they will never be counted Jesus relied strictly on the scriptures until Satan unknowingly revealed his identity demanding for worship from Jesus who has always been a worshiper of the true God so Satan got frustrated and left Jesus looking for another opportunity to get back in a subtle manner {Luke 4:13} and he surely did speaking through a trusted disciple of Jesus called Peter! Matthew 16:22-23

So God is no longer using that Old Covenant you're quoting {Jeremiah 31:32-33} rather God's word will be available to everyone that believes {Jeremiah 31:34} and we can all know the truth through the guidance of spiritual Jews {Zechariah 8:23} whom Jesus sent to teach us to become his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

So if you're banking on people who have seen spirits then you're on your own because you can't distinguish between the spirit of God and Satan, in fact God concluded in the Bible telling us that there's no addition or subtraction {Revelations 22:18-19} which means God won't appear to anyone henceforth whoever wants to know God's organization only need to examine the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit {Matthew 7:15-20} not GIFTS!

Sand2022:


God is saying what he does to His prophets, that's not a law. Haba.

God is saying if there is a prophet, I will appear to the person in dream, vision etc. That's not a mosaic law that passed away. He is saying how he operates with His prophets.

Even though the law has passed, does not the principle still apply? Was it not there that JW borrowed there annual convention and assemblies? Was it not there that you borrowed your family worship practice?

2. It is the book of revelation that God says no addition should be made to it as you quoted. However, is the book of revelation the last book of the bible that was written? So other books written after the book of revelation is now fake?

MaxInDHouse:


Reread Hebrews 1:1-2 it's about how God dealt with people before and after Jesus so if you're still expecting God to come and appear to you after Jesus i'm sorry for you!

Sand2022:

I quote Numbers again:
6 He then said: “Hear my words, please. If there was a prophet of Jehovah among you, I would make myself known to him in a vision, and I would speak to him in a dream.
This statement is not subject to Mosaic law bros. God is saying what He does to His prophet. Let's go to Hebrews.
2 Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things."I guess the verse 2 is where your point is. Does this mean that God doesn't speak again through visions and dreams? Not at all, Paul who wrote that bible book received visions, as well as other apostles. That is the way God communicated with them, but he does so through his son Jesus. I don't know how you could misread that to mean that God no longer speak to people. Again you haven't brought any valid proof. So your leader has no authority from God to form a religion. That religion is thus, man-made.

MaxInDHouse:


You're quoting a covenant God had with Israel as if everyone is under that OLD covenant.

Ọmọ i am not under that covenant Jesus said to his people:
“Because you have seen me, have you believed? Happy are those who have not seen and yet believe.” John 20:29

In the NEW COVENANT God is speaking with believers through Jesus {Hebrews 1:1-2} so the old covenant you're quoting has become OBSOLETE! Jeremiah 31:31-33

Sand2022:

But it was that OLD COVENANT that your church derived Conventions and Assemblies, Family worship, helpers to the GB (nethinim), retirement for coordinators, etc. So why do you borrow from that old covenant?

Sand2022:

Even if you leave out what is obvious from that book of numbers, Heb 1:1-2 didn't say that God will no longer use signs to indicate His approval. Paul received visions, including Peter, right? Paul went further to show evidence of divine approval at HEB 4:

4 while God joined in bearing witness with signs and wonders and various powerful works and with the holy spirit distributed according to his will."

How did God bore witness of His approval? Clearly through signs and wonders. So if you say that God shifted his attention to your leader, what is the supernatural evidence for that? If God didn't give His signs and you go on to form a religion, that religion is man made. If you wish, you can also establish your own organization and say "hey, God has chosen us" after all you won't be the first.

Sand2022:

Maybe I will also go and establish my own organization. Lol. You can see how stupid that idea is. If God didn't tell you anything, guy join the church with supernatural evidence, not manmade organization.

Sand2022:


I quote Numbers again:

6 He then said: “Hear my words, please. If there was a prophet of Jehovah among you, I would make myself known to him in a vision, and I would speak to him in a dream.

This statement is not subject to Mosaic law bros. God is saying what He does to His prophet. Let's go to Hebrews.

2 Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things."

I guess the verse 2 is where your point is. Does this mean that God doesn't speak again through visions and dreams? Not at all, Paul who wrote that bible book received visions, as well as other apostles. That is the way God communicated with them, but he does so through his son Jesus. I don't know how you could misread that to mean that God no longer speak to people.

Sand2022:


Again you haven't brought any valid proof.

So your leader has no authority from God to form a religion. That religion is thus, man-made.

Janosky:


From Genesis to Revelation the visions of God's purposes have been revealed in your Bible,Oga which other visions are you seeking for?

Abi , you want to ADD 23rd chapter to Revelation?

Oga,Did Paul or John the apostle teach you that God has another Revelation aside what was revealed by Jesus Christ ?

You are entitled to your opinion.

Oga, do you have any proof that the apostles taught you that God has another vision or Revelation to disclose aside what was revealed through Jesus Christ in Revelation?

MaxInDHouse:

Those aren't a COVENANT but PRINCIPLES that God's people has been practicing before God made a covenant with Israel!

No! God declared His presence through the Holy Spirit which helps believers to do His will all the time.

The scriptures say that the only evidence of God's presence is the Governing Body [/b]that's teaching people how to do God's will.
Jesus told his disciples who were worried about how faithful people in the end time can identify the Holy Ones when falsehood has spread:

[b]So in response they said to him: “Where, Lord?” He said to them: “Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together" Luke 17:37

So the BODY of anointed men representing God is the evidence of the gathering of Holy ones not supernatural gifts which Jesus said he will deny those displaying it! Matthew 7:21-23

Sand2022:

Your publications says that the BODY stated in that Luke 17:37 is "True Christ". In other words Jesus Christ.

Sand2022:


Is the book of revelation the last bible book written?

Answer that question.

Sand2022:


Why not? Joel 2:28 had initial fulfilment during the first century. Your organization believes that prophecies do have more than one fulfillment. I believe that too. Since Acts 2 shows that this is a last day prophecy, it is clear that it will have a bigger fulfillment in our time. And that prophecy is among the restoration prophecies that would have an end time fulfilment as well. Since we are in that end time, it is fulfilling.

1cor 13 shows that spiritual gifts will be the experience of the church till that which is perfect comes. Your organization believes that this perfect thing is still future. So the spiritual gift should continue to be an experience in the end time church.