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ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 6:56am On Sep 25, 2023 |
![]() ![]() ![]() I really want to discomfort Polytechnic students and graduates, I'm a HND Graduate myself so this is not discrimination or bullying ![]() ![]() ![]() Find a way to obtain a Bachelor's Degree, don't be deceived by the talk of equivalence, If it's not a Degree it isn't. Polytechnics in Nigeria don't have the capacity to offer studies in Medicine, Nursing, Pharmacy, Radiography, Law etc All Full-time Lecturers employed by Polytechnics must at least have BSc & MSc, even the Polytechnic system discriminates against it graduates. Going for BSc after HND is not a downgrade, it's just to obtain a Degree because you never had one ![]() ![]() ![]() COREN doesn't certify HND or PGD graduates until they obtain a Degree. HND graduates are not eligible for any Federal or State government scholarships for Masters studies. Attending the best Polytechnics or Graduating with Distinction doesn't change the fact that you don't have a Degree. Please don't pay for that PGD you're about to do, it's just another Diploma ![]() ![]() ![]() Of course I know very well that becoming rich or successful is not dependent on Certificates, but my point is if you want to enjoy the Nigerian Formal System, a Bachelor's Degree is a must. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by erad(m): 8:32am On Sep 25, 2023 |
Ignorance is a disease. Especially to people who ought to know better. 2 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by ihatebuhari(f): 8:52am On Sep 25, 2023 |
babakb:lol okay sir. I hope your life is better than all HND graduate. I guess your former president buhari had a first class degree in law from the University of kastina. I understand your point but this should be directed to the federal government to scrap Polytechnics and make them offer B.Tech just like what the UK did in the 80s You shouldn't laugh the people obtaining ND or HND results i guess life happened to them. I lived here in LA for over 8 years, i didn't even attend any tertiary institution in Nigeria but now I've a degree here in Cali I must tell you Nigeria and Africa is a shithole compared to los Angeles but i would never laugh the people i can only insult the politicians do you know why because after their tenure they run to the western world. So be considerate when addressing HND graduates. Nigeria is already hard, you can push many to depression with your laugh. I'm tired of this useless forum it's filled with tribal bigots and unintelligent kids like you. Some of us here just want to laugh and have nostalgia about our birth country so be reasonable 12 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by franchasofficia: 8:53am On Sep 25, 2023 |
babakb:Tinubu your current President doesn't even have a verifiable certificate to talk of diploma cum degree. Kwankwaso is an HND holder. Olusegun Obasanjo is an HND holder. Your former President Buhari is also a Diploma holder not a degree holder. Don't demoralize those with HND because thousands of them end far better than Bsc holders at the end of the day. You just acquired a Bsc after your HND and feel you have arrived or that you now have the right to shame your fellow HND holders, don't you know that's sign of someone who will not go far in life? 5 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by 2cul2care: 9:10am On Sep 25, 2023 |
The way you guys openly display your ignorance, even universities abroad recognize HND, and is accepted for master studies 1 Like |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 9:19am On Sep 25, 2023 |
erad: Don't hide behind words, dispute the facts I stated in my post ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by PinkNature(m): 9:29am On Sep 25, 2023 |
ihatebuhari: You didn't school in LA. Your way if writing gave you off. |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 9:29am On Sep 25, 2023 |
ihatebuhari: Nigga, Life didn't happen to anyone and I ain't laughing at no one, I mentioned it here that I'm a HND Graduate myself. But the nail has to be hit at the right spot. The Federal and State government are using Polytechnics to SCAM citizens with worthless certificates, I want the citizens affected to understand what's going on, they have an option to avoid Polytechnics and choose University Education. No one is under compulsion to study in a Polytechnic, I wasn't forced to study in a Polytechnic either. The government has obviously refused to upgrade the Universities to award B.Tech degrees, I expect the Citizens to use their intellect and avoid Polytechnics. We don't need any protest to change things in Nigeria, we just need to avoid being scammed by our Government. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 9:37am On Sep 25, 2023 |
franchasofficia: Contrary to your assumption, I'm actually trying to save a generation here, but I need to make them uncomfortable and awaken their minds with a piercing sharp arrow. Nigerians are too docile to develop themselves ![]() ![]() ![]() Remember that once you choose Polytechnic Education you have forfeited all STEM professions, You can't even be an Academician. This is why we have a generation of unemployable youth in the country. You can't advance STEM education with the Nigerian Polytechnic system, it's just a SCAM. It's a lie to say HND Graduates fare better than University graduates in Nigeria, The Medical Doctors, Pharmacists, Radiographers, Nurses, Engineers, Professors, Top Management of Companies, Permanent Secretaries are mostly University Graduates. Enough of making anyone feel better, Go and get your Degree. 3 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 10:00am On Sep 25, 2023 |
2cul2care: Only a few Universities in the UK and US accept HND for Masters, and such HND graduates must have significant work experience. For US, they must do WES Evaluation. The Whole of Europe, Canada, South America, Australia, Asia, Africa etc don't accept HND for Masters. 2 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by franchasofficia: 10:07am On Sep 25, 2023 |
babakb:Now you have made great points which I strongly agree with you, and the more reason Nigerian government needs to change Polytechnic academic structure and stop it at OND. They need to scrap HND, let the Polytechnic stop at OND. I understand you better now, but the manner you wrote your first post was dehumanizing and demoralizing to those who already have HND or in the process of obtaining one, which isn't fair to them 2 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by Auraking: 10:11am On Sep 25, 2023 |
True talk amigo Cheap Data on my signature 1 Like |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by PinkNature(m): 10:32am On Sep 25, 2023 |
babakb: Only a few will understand. Some even go as far as selling the lie that polytechnic graduates are well grounded in practicals. Hahaha, a 2.2 university graduate have the probability of getting more pay than the best polytechnic graduate if they're both employed in the same place of work. NB: I attended a polytechnic, but currently running a university program because I know what's up. 4 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 10:32am On Sep 25, 2023 |
franchasofficia: Intending HND graduates will still face Dehumanization and Demoralization in their future Academic and Professional pursuits anyways ![]() ![]() ![]() That's why I'm awakening whoever cares to listen to act now, The government will not resolve this issue for you, As a HND Graduate, just look for a Private university nearby and continue with your studies, in 2 years you would have obtained your Degree which is equivalent to any Degree across the world. Better still, NBTE has introduced a Top Up program to help HND graduates, It's just a year program, If you have the Money do it and eliminate the dark days of being a HND Graduate in Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by franchasofficia: 10:45am On Sep 25, 2023 |
babakb:You are right. Well done. You aren't as evil as I thought you were based on how you sounded in your first post ![]() 1 Like |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 10:51am On Sep 25, 2023 |
PinkNature: We're in the same shoes, I'm currently running a degree program too after many years of holding a HND certificate. The talk of HND graduates being grounded in Practicals is just self consolation ![]() ![]() ![]() Even COREN that certifies Engineers only certify university graduates. 2 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by PinkNature(m): 10:53am On Sep 25, 2023 |
babakb: Didn't go for HND. Everyone thought I was a mad man when I decided to get a jamb form to restart from scratch. 5 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 11:23am On Sep 25, 2023 |
PinkNature: Radiography is a smart one, Radiographers are in high demand all over the world ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by ihatebuhari(f): 11:30am On Sep 25, 2023 |
PinkNature:okay 👍 1 Like |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by Fahvvy: 12:47pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
I like this OP ![]() After some people had called him all sort of names, he was able to convince them otherwise ![]() OP, please demand an apology from those people ![]() Justice for OP💪 But on a serious note sha .. There's so much truth to what the OP is saying ![]() 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by DyingFetus: 1:29pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Kys nigger |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by ItisWell22(f): 1:31pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
babakb: Same way I strongly advise young kids against going to schools of nursing. Just go for BNSC straight up. Except for those who have already found themselves in the system, like I was many years ago. babakb: 😢 1 Like |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by Dracula123: 2:48pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
I have HND I am a chartered accountant I can earn as high as the market offers I got admission to study MBA in uni Abuja with my HND and ICAN. Don't mislead people A Bsc graduate can't earn more than me because he went to a university. He can only do so if he has more experience. Be guided 3 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 3:00pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
ItisWell22: As in!!! Nigeria is just unbelievable. There are certain things that we can change even without breaking the bank. Why can't NUC and Nursing Council come together and create a Pathway Of Graduates of Nursing and Midwifery Schools to obtain their BSc even after becoming Registered to practice ![]() ![]() ![]() NOUN Abuja and ABU Zaria currently run BSCN distance learning program for registered nurses only. Within 2 years you will obtain your Degree. |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 3:21pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Dracula123: Guy you need a BSc to make your profile complete, let's not start the earning part please. Zenith Bank, Stanbic IBTC, UBA, Wema Bank, GTB, Access Bank, Sterling Bank, MTN, Glo, 9Mobile etc don't employ HND graduates as core staff, they only employ HND Graduates on casual or contract basis so what do you have to say about this. Please I'm not disparaging you or your career, I believe you are matured enough to absorb a strong feedback, you obviously have a good career going on for you, please abandon that MBA and get your BSc, it's just a year or maximum 2 years, you can later go for MSc or MBA. Better still, you can become ACCA certified and you automatically be awarded Bachelor's Degree from Oxford Brookes University. Even Tech professionals that work remotely are obtaining their bachelors degree. |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by visaclick: 4:24pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
The op is right. Think of polytechnic as a back yard way of saying “hey you, the uni rejected u right, well come we can get you something equally as better but promise us you won’t tell anyone you got it from us”😁🤣🤣🤣🤣 3 Likes |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 4:27pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
visaclick: ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by System202: 5:03pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
U are right op, but what about Btech |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 5:49pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
System202: Btech is fine. Btech, BSc, BA or BEng are all fine. HND Graduates should find a way to add any of the above to their profile. |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by Dracula123: 6:06pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Thank God you know about ACCA babakb: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by babakb: 6:14pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
Re: ND No Degree: HND Has No Degree: PGD Please Get A Degree by saheed2002: 7:29pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
babakb: What of a degree bachelor that cannot practice his/her profession? 1 Like |
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