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Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by Bestbrain123(m): 1:56pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
If you look at this verse closely there is one word Jesus mention which i still find it hard to reason "REPENTANCE FOR FORGIVNESS OF SIN" Jesus also demand that all nations should repent. Now this brings me to my question..if repentance is only for the forgivness of our sins, why must a person be born of water and of spirit to be accepted as a real sons and daughters of the kingdom, when repentance could have done that alone. i have seen some christians who after the baptizm still go back to there old sin. now i'm asking what is the use of this doctrined process of meeting God, then after all the holy ritual process some fall back again?. |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by cornelboy(f): 2:50pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
The forgiveness of sin we initially received after believing Jesus as the lord and Messiah and repentance was for the inherited sin from Adam. As imperfect humans, we are susceptible to sin. We must strive hard to live a sinless life and please God. And if we fall into a sin, we must genuinely ask for forgiveness and find means to stop committing that particular sin. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by Kobojunkiee: 3:21pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Bestbrain123:The same news of Repentance onto the forgiveness of Sin which John the Baptist Heralded - Matthew 3 vs 7 -11 & Luke 3 vs 7 -18 & Mark 1 vs 1 - 8. ![]() 40 After Jesus told them this, he showed them his hands and his feet.2. God foretold of the destruction of the enemy Nations in Deuteronomy 28 vs 49 - 68. Jesus Christ's warning was to all the Nations that God had prepared His judgment for, the enemies of His Isreal(and Judah) which were all destroyed during the last days of God's judgment against the Nation of Israel(and Judah) — Deuteronomy 28 vs 15 - 48 —that took place 1900 years ago. ![]() 3. A better place to start is by asking what Repentance is according to John the Baptist, and Jesus Christ — and not according to your pastors and mogs who are liars in this? In Matthew 3 vs 7 -11 & Luke 3 vs 7 -18 & Mark 1 vs 1 - 8, John the Baptist explained that the Repentance he was sent by God to tell the people of involved an abandonment of the following of the Old Way(The former fountain of Living Water) to adopt instead the New Way (and Fountain of Living Water). John informed people that in order to achieve repentance they had to change their hearts and show by the way they lived that they had changed - Matthew 3 vs 8— a formal transition from thinking according to the Old Law to thinking according to the New Law was required. John then said that He could only baptize people in water but Jesus Christ would baptize them by the Holy Spirit. (John was an Old Covenant Prophet and the Holy Spirit of the Old Law/Way is the Spirit of Eternal Life — He is not the Holy Spirit of the New Way However.) ![]() Just as John had said, Jesus Chris showed up and announced that in addition to being baptized by water — born of Water aka the Fountain of Living Water— He too would baptize all those who would choose to repent from following the Old Law to following the New Way by causing them to be born of the Spirt of Eternal Life aka the Holy Spirit of the Old Way - John 3 vs 1 - 21 - in a process which He referred to as being born-again— born of Water and born of Spirit(of Eternal Life). ![]() Now, one thing that pops out to anyone paying attention is that John never mentions that His baptism absolves the sins of any man in the entire context of Matthew 3 vs 7 -11 & Luke 3 vs 7 -18 & Mark 1 vs 1 - 8. Neither did Jesus Christ state that to be born-again means to be forgiven of one's sins. That idea that repentance alone absolves one of his sins is not of Scripture but of the imaginations of men. Forgiveness of sins, rather comes from the living of one's born-again life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, as revealed by Jesus Christ Himself in John 8 vs 31 - 36, a process through which one by knowing of the Truth of God(The Holy Spirit of the New Covenant), one is eventually set free from slavery to sin by the Truth of God. ![]() 4. As I have explained, religious doctrines and traditions have nothing to do with the Truth of God as expressed in Scripture. ![]() |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:54pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
cornelboy:Whenever the word "SIN" is mentioned most people think it's about the bad things they did not knowing that all mankind are born sinners whether you commit or not. So you got it correct as all we need to do is look upon Jesus and strive to put on his personality in thoughts, words and deeds so that we can prove to ourselves (first) that we have repented from the inherited sin we got through Adam. Most people are thinking God will weigh their deeds on a scale to judge whether they qualify for everlasting life or not {Isaiah 64:6} whereas the one and only basis for judgment is our willingness to imitate Christ Jesus as we continue to look onto him as God's only approved human son whose thoughts, words and actions makes him qualify for everlasting life! John 3:16 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by Bestbrain123(m): 4:36pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
You quoted well.! But still miss my question why are some christians after baptizm still go back to there old life and claim fellowship with God. why.. |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by cornelboy(f): 4:41pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Yeah I understand you perfectly. Some people think believing in Christ is just about the feelings you have in your head. They would claim they believe in Christ yet they don't follow every Jesus's commandments and teachings. 1 Like |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by Kobojunkiee: 4:50pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Bestbrain123:Repentance in and of its own does not guarantee nor grant forgiveness of sins. Rather, what it does is open the gate for you into the Kingdom of God — born again. Once inside the Kingdom of God, you have the choice of following the path towards forgiveness of sins— which is through continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ — by obedience, or the path that leads the other way of rejection. Forgiveness is not automatic as Jesus Christ explained in John 8 vs 31 - 38 and throughout His Gospel. Forgiveness requires continuous submission and obedience, the living of one's life in subjection to His teachings and commandments, and not everyone who is born-again will choose to do that. ![]() So, again, to be born-again does not mean you are freed of your sins. No, it simply means you have been granted access into the Kingdom of God, exactly what Jesus Christ explained carefully to all in John 3 vs 1-21. ![]() Now, let me be straight about something else. Majority of your Christians who claim to be baptized in water are not at all born-again. The majority of your pastors and mogs are also not born-again either. This is either because many of them do not meet the base criteria— you have to be of the blood of Jacob, to begin with— or did not do what John the Baptist explained and Jesus Christ commanded. As I explained earlier, Repentance opens a gate into the Kingdom of God, and the gate does not simply open to anyone or for anyone. And no amount of your repentance rituals/prayers that are contrary to that commanded will cause the gates into the Kingdom of God to open to anyone. It only opens to those who do what John the Baptist and Jesus Christ said. ![]() |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by Bestbrain123(m): 6:43pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
WHAT..!! i think you need to read 1john1:9 there is a statement noted there. THEN come back lets TALK. THAT WORD PURIFY US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNES is where i'm mostly interested in, |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:54pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
cornelboy:Exactly! That's what Jesus meant by saying such ones are workers of lawlessness. Matthew 7:21-23 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Real Study On Luke24:46:47 by Kobojunkiee: 8:50pm On Sep 26, 2023 |
Bestbrain123:First of all, carefully examine the message of the passage of 1 John 1 to realize that John was speaking to those he perceived were outsiders —those whom he wanted to fellowship with us - 1 John 1 vs 3a -, and John spoke to them about those who were the insiders — those who share fellowship together with God the Father and his Son Jesus Christ - 1 John 1 vs 3a. 1. We want to tell you about the Word that gives life—the one who existed before the world began. This is the one we have heard and have seen with our own eyes. We saw what he did, and our hands touched him.Who are those who fellowship with both the Father and The Son? Jesus Christ in John 14 vs 15 -23 said they are those who will have the Second Helper — the Holy Spirit aka those who are no longer slaves to sin — they are Holy and are led by the Spirit of Truth who is, in fact, the Holy Spirit of the New Covenant. This means that if those who are not living their life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ —set free from slavery to sin by knowing the Truth of God— you are still of the world and you are not one of those John referred to as the We in the first chapter of his epistle. ![]() 15 “If you love me, you will do what I command.Above is a bit of what Jesus Christ made clear about those who fellowship with the Father and with Him, in addition to what He relayed in the context of John 8 vs 31 - 44. ![]() |
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