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Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:51am On Sep 29, 2023
LordReed:


Where did I say "creation didn't exist"?

No they are not evidence of creation since we know how they formed and there was no "creator" involved.

Meanwhile you are yet to show how nature and it's laws are evidence of a creation.

Then prove to us that something can emerge from nothing na
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:54am On Sep 29, 2023
LordReed:


I know mansions have human builders because I have observed that and the evidence abounds therefore it is mundane to assume that any mansion I see was built by a human. However if the claim is there is a specific human who built this mansion or all mansions then we need evidence to substantiate such a claim. You have provided no evidence that some creator did anything and since we have not observed any creators creating any universes then the claim is not mundane enough to be assumed. You can't logic things into existence.

Natural processes are caused by the interplay between matter and energy.

Yes
Mansions have human builders
Only humans can do such on this planet

Do you expect that the complex universe with it's laws and order and organization could be the work of any mere mortal?
Who caused such interplay? Did the interplay just dance themselves to form our universe?
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:56am On Sep 29, 2023
LordReed:


You asked me what causes natural processes, I said interaction of energy and matter. You then ask what proof I have of that and I responded with every scientific principle and observation. I never said scientific principles and observation are what cause natural processes rather [b]they are proof that natural processes are a result of interaction between energy and matter. [/b]Get it?

By intelligent mind or by accident?
Intelligent atheist cheesy
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:58am On Sep 29, 2023
Maynman:

Who made the raw materials that's been processed?
A table is made of wood,but is a tree made of wood?


All creators create from outside, nature create from inside.

Explain the highlighted
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:00am On Sep 29, 2023
Freksy:


How you know the things you know.

Pls ask him o
If my mind or brain is a product of accident, why can I trust it for anything?
Leave that Rational atheist in an irrational planet
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:04am On Sep 29, 2023
Maynman:

You are the one that don't understand your obvious jargons.
You said the factory and materials is from mass/matter and it from energy, and energy is from the source.
So who is this source (factory and materials)?
Who is the factory owner?
If the creation and creator is the same, what was created?



Isaiah 40:26
β€œLift up your eyes to heaven and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who brings out their army by number; He calls them all by name. Because of his vast dynamic energy and his awe-inspiring power, Not one of them is missing.

Also don't forget the relationship between mass and energy
Or lemme ask you
Let's assume there was no creator, where does energy come from
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:09am On Sep 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

We probably evolved from unicellular organisms. About the origin of this unicellular, I don't know
There are abounding evidence about evolution
If you say stuff was created, u need to give evidence


Good you mention probably
You don't know
It's not even possible
A Protozoa cannot evolve into a metazoa either by accident or artificial means
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:11am On Sep 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

We know how buildings come into place. Matter of fact, we have seen buildings being built and what's more, the building process is well documented.
Do you know the process in creating a human? Have you seen a human created and what are the process of creating 'the first human'?

You did not see something being created means it was never created right?
You have not seen anything evolve either but you say it is factual than something being created
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:13am On Sep 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

Trees aren't created!
You lack simple scientific knowledge judging by your posts

What is the origin of trees?
Someone earlier illustrated earth as an auto-factory
Have you even studied the designs in tress? They couldn't have happened by chance
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:16am On Sep 29, 2023
Maynman:

"Conscious higher being" reeks of human Imagination.
You can't have being without non being.
Universe is a Being, If this higher BEING can exist, why can't universe which is BEING simply exist?

πŸ˜‚
Kaboom! And the universe came into existence

Why can't a house simply exist either
You have kicked out the law of Cause and Effect not just out of the field but out of the stadium and the city... Is the universe now the Cause of its existence? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:20am On Sep 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

Who created them? Whats evidence of this creation? And who created this creator?

Cause and effect... Let's go
The universe is infinite and eternal but the universe is not a cause but an effect of what? An uncreated, eternal being

If you want to counter me, you will explain how the universe can be it's own Cause since you're suffering from too much sense and how it could bring about rational minds and intelligence and consciousness... Something it does not have
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:28am On Sep 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. Why do you think its impossible to not believe god? There's literally millions of atheists existing. Matter of fact, your chatting with one!
And how did u arrive at this harebrained conclusions that atheists exist because of your skydaddy's condemnation?
Have you brought any shred of evidence of your god's existence? If I tell you that Thor exists, would you believe me? So why would someone believe your god exists?
Yes anti-alien people exist and they have communities. And please point out to my lies.
Lol about your guilt-ridden point. It may be news to you but theists have more guilts than atheists. Check the crime distribution in the world.
2. I don't even know how to answer this one. First you have to prove demons exist before we go further.
I understand why CaveatEmptor just doesn't like engaging you. You simply lack the quality depth of knowledge, both scientific and philosophical.
If at all you're indeed a lawyer, I'd like to know if you engage in courtroom battles. You're so piss poor in brilliant exchanges

1. The belief in god or gods are as old as Mankind itself... Billions of people strongly believe in God... You want to compare the numbers?

2. Have you seen the leader of an high organized crime before? Do they reveal themselves... Demons are spirits and invisible to the human eye but their influence is felt through works, evils, how they torment many to madness ans even death... That answer I just gave is not relevant sef... When you have time, come to Akwa Ibom, I'll dm you my number so we can contact each other... I'll take you somewhere where you'll spend just 10 minutes... What you'll experience, even if you'll never accept that God exists, you won't ask questions about the existence of demons...
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:29am On Sep 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

You need proof of how trees grow? Proof of how they geeminate from a seed or stock and turn into that giant baobab or iroko?
Dafuq! lipsrsealed undecided cry

Have you studied a seed before?
Who or what made the information in them and put it there? Chance?
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:31am On Sep 29, 2023
jaephoenix:

Everything around us evolved or grew. Some were human made. Animals, rocks, trees all evolved from tiny multicellulars. How those multicellulars came to be, I don't know. But if they were created, then that means that creator must have a creator. Such powerful, wise creator surely wouldnt pop into existence, would it?

You don't know but they say it is fact

πŸ˜‚
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:35am On Sep 29, 2023
In conclusion, I have seen that atheists did not even give any reasonable explanation to how humans existed than to ask silly questions
And as jaephoenix said, even what he said is just as assumption cos he does not know
All they have said is unsatisfactory and makes our existence very purposeless

No atheist has given any reasonable explanation. Not yet... Just asking questions like children to counter others
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:37am On Sep 29, 2023
All what they mention is questions?

What...?
How...?
Who...?
When...?
Where...?
Why...?

How's that intelligent to what the OP asked?
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by mysticwarrior(m): 7:29am On Sep 29, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Which alien have you seen?
The ones that have been sighted at different places in the world.
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:29am On Sep 29, 2023
mysticwarrior:
The ones that have been sighted at different places in the world.

Mention them (citing references)
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Maynman: 7:30am On Sep 29, 2023
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Aemmyjah:




Isaiah 40:26
β€œLift up your eyes to heaven and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who brings out their army by number; He calls them all by name. Because of his vast dynamic energy and his awe-inspiring power, Not one of them is missing.

Also don't forget the relationship between mass and energy
Or lemme ask you
Let's assume there was no creator, where does energy come from
Energy cannot be created or destroy.
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Maynman: 7:33am On Sep 29, 2023
Aemmyjah:


πŸ˜‚
Kaboom! And the universe came into existence

Why can't a house simply exist either
You have kicked out the law of Cause and Effect not just out of the field but out of the stadium and the city... Is the universe now the Cause of its existence? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
A house is made of stuffs, what is Universe made of?
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:35am On Sep 29, 2023
Maynman:
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Energy cannot be created or destroy.

If there were no Creator
Let's say evolution
The first law of energy - law of thermodynamics does not even support evolution
Evolution seems to be against laws and logic
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Maynman: 7:35am On Sep 29, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Explain the highlighted

How does your hair grow?
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:35am On Sep 29, 2023
Maynman:

A house is made of stuffs, what is Universe made of?

Nuclear big bang cheesy
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Maynman: 7:37am On Sep 29, 2023
Aemmyjah:


If there were no Creator
Let's say evolution
The first law of energy - law of thermodynamics does not even support evolution
Evolution seems to be against y and logic
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Maynman: 7:39am On Sep 29, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Nuclear big bang cheesy
What's funny is that, it was an atheist that formed the phrase "big bang" to mock the idea of the Catholic priest that developed it
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:40am On Sep 29, 2023
Maynman:


How does your hair grow?

You know who to ask that question
The process in itself is complex. All that we see is finished work - hair growing
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Maynman: 7:41am On Sep 29, 2023
Aemmyjah:


You know who to ask that question
The process in itself is complex. All that we see is finished work - hair growing
Good.
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:42am On Sep 29, 2023
Maynman:

What's funny is that, it was an atheist that formed the phrase "big bang" to mock the idea of the Catholic priest that developed it

And many people to teach that today
We were taught that in school
I never really had sense to question things those days

The Big Bang itself raises questions as to who or what caused it... Also supports what the Bible says that the universe has a beginning. Genesis 1:1
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:43am On Sep 29, 2023
Maynman:

Good.

And that complex process came by chance or design?
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Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Maynman: 7:45am On Sep 29, 2023
Aemmyjah:

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I never really had sense - question things those daysre

The Big Bang itself raided questions as to who or what caused it... Aa belso supports what the Bible says that the universe has a beginning. Genesis 1:1
wish you can question your Doctrine too.

No where in Genesis 1:1 did it say universe has a beginning
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by Maynman: 7:48am On Sep 29, 2023
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And that complex pjustis5rocess came by chance or design?
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Came by itself like you said.
Re: How Do Atheists Address The Question Of Human Existence? by LordReed(m): 7:53am On Sep 29, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Then prove to us that something can emerge from nothing na

Why do all these dumdums keep asking me to produce evidence for claims I didn't make?

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