Aemmyjah:


Ok
When are you migrating to meet your ancestors?

You are not a body, you have a body.

Maynman:

You are not a body, you have a body.

Whatever
Go and live with your ancestors na
Billions are still very much alive
Go and play with them

Aemmyjah:


The highlighted shows to you still have much to learn and should learn how to draw reasonable conclusions instead of drawing wrong conclusion from sentiments and hearsays?

Does the Koran claim to be inspired? I mentioned how the Bible is unique as to distribution, translation, history, prophecy, science, moral advice. Even the Koran give credence to the Bible... Mention the other religious books and show us na
Sango kor, Ifa ni? I'm talking about something universal, not tribal or confined to a language
Did Sango existed?
It is not you to decide which book is inspired
Show me Ifa book

Brother, my stand now is the result of the rigorous research that I have done. Telling you this is not hearsay; it's what I found out myself. I have asked questions, studied books, read holy books, and many others. I still believed I had not done much yet, which is what led me here. See, if a creator should exist, it probably cannot be the one the Bible describes. I would do better for humans than a biblical god if I had his or her power.
Yes, Muslims claim the Qur'an was inspired by Allah. So, God also inspires other religions. The IFA book is on Amazon if you want to order it.
Which religious book did you want me to mention? Is it the one that predates the Bible? Or what?

gisevak:


Brother, my stand now is the result of the rigorous research that I have done. Telling you this is not hearsay; it's what I found out myself. I have asked questions, studied books, read holy books, and many others. I still believed I had not done much yet, which is what led me here. See, if a creator should exist, it probably cannot be the one the Bible describes. I would do better for humans than a biblical god if I had his or her power.
Yes, Muslims claim the Qur'an was inspired by Allah. So, God also inspires other religions. The IFA book is on Amazon if you want to order it.
Which religious book did you want me to mention? Is it the one that predates the Bible? Or what?

Have you seen a Koran before
Can you easily access it
Can u read it

Why do I have to order IFA book?

You will never do anything better for humans if you had the power
You should do research on why God allows suffering?

Aemmyjah:


Whatever
Go and live with your ancestors na
Billions are still very much alive
Go and play with them

All life is born of water.

I am already playing 😁

Maynman:

All life is born of water.

I am already playing 😁

You said your mother gave birth to fish
You know where fishes live
They also migrate to their source point sometimes
So, pack your things and go meet your ancestors

Aemmyjah:


You said your mother gave birth to fish
You know where fishes live
They also migrate to their source point sometimes
So, pack your things and go meet your ancestors

I said we started as a fish, not give birth.
The fish also have their own ancestors lol

Aemmyjah:


How does evolution bring about complexity?
You should answer that na

Where did i mention evolution, and where did i ever mention that it answers the question of complexity?

If you want to grab at straws, you'll need to do better

Maynman:

I said we started as a fish, not give birth.
The fish also have their own ancestors lol

Originally, you were fish in mother's womb
Fishpie

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Originally, you were fish in mother's womb
Fishpie[/quote]
Look at the development of humans from spermatozoa to full body and compare with other animals.

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Ok

Aemmyjah:


The Bible also mentions that the first forms of life began in water and the world was once a big ocean of water... You're just corroborating the book of superior wisdom...
Now, where do water come from?
The gravitational forces that hold the water bodies in place came by chance?
How do the earth came about by separation from the earth?

I agree that the body is made up of mostly water
I don't agree this wonderful came about by chance

Lemme ask you 2 questions but I'll answer 1 and leave the other.

Do you have a brain? Yes
Is your brain a product of accident or intelligent design? Yes or No
(Note that one answer would imply you brain is not correct )

😂😂😂😂

cornelboy:

😂😂😂😂

He used style style dodge am😂😂😂

Aemmyjah:


My ancestors were humans
Your ancestors na fish 😂😂😂
I follow what proved science, common sense and Bible tells me
You can follow what Google tells you
You know where to find your ancestors na
You can jump off the third mainland bridge but don't forget to send my greetings to your ancestors

Ona no go allow person close him teeth

cornelboy:

Ona no go allow person close him teeth

His ancestors will welcome him into their belly

Aemmyjah:


His ancestors will welcome him into their belly

Another one

Aemmyjah:


Ok

Go and read on the Classical Elements.
You are what you are looking for.

Aemmyjah:


Using the law of cause an effect
Before that, you still don't want to have common sense
All the order, organization, complexity, cycles in the universe is not the product of a hand?
Olodo

You're breathing heavily. calm down. No one is fighting you.

I'll try to explain in simple terms for you.

The universe is unbelievably complex, without a doubt. While I accept that, there's no evidence to show that some sort of divine hand or being in particular, caused it. That's just anthropomorphic thinking. In case you don't know what that word means, it means thinking about the "cause" of the universe in light of having human characteristics.

Moving on.

The reason why a god, or higher being would not suffice as an explanation, is because without a doubt as well, you'd agree with me that whatever alleged god you believe was able to cause the universe would also need to be incredibly complex as well...

so the question of complexity is not really answered. Its just pushed a step further and we're left asking what caused the complexity of the god.

Back to the law of Cause and Effect
The universe has a beginning and is NOT eternal
The universe cannot be the cause of its own existence.
The universe cannot be caused by nothing either

Made a small correction for you there. Also, I never claimed the universe came from nothing, or is the cause of its own existence.

It was either caused by something eternal or someone eternal- An Uncaused, Timeless Creator...

Now hold up there buckeroo. There are several blaring problems with your conclusion.

1. there's no reason to believe that the cause of the universe is eternal. If the universe is 14 billion years old, what stops the cause from being 50 billion, or just 15 billion? What evidence is there that suggests that the cause MUST be eternal?

How would you even go about verifying if something were eternal or not? It just seems like a pointless claim, like omnipotence or omniscience.

2. There's also no reason to believe that the cause of the universe must be a someone, talk less of that someone being singular.. but i won't get too much into that.

We don't even know the beginning to time and space but we accept these even though it is too wonderful to comprehend
It is the concept of the Creator that you want to understand and answer your questions

Irrational atheist with rational thinking in an irrational planet
It is the concept of the

I don't understand what you mean by "we don't know the beginning of time and space." Care to expatiate?

Also, since when did we start "accepting" things we don't understand? Who is the "we" in this situation, because I sure as hell didn't get the memo.

Aemmyjah:


He used style style dodge am😂😂😂

For real it's something they should answer. If everything came by chance, why should I even mind anything he says, his comments definitely came by chance, he didn't think nor did he use intelligence lol. Nairaland forum came by chance.
I eat by chance, my digestive system works by chance, nutrients are transported through my body by chance, I excrete by chance.

Brother some people's sense have been blurred

cornelboy:

For real it's something they should answer. If everything came by chance, why should I even mind anything he says, his comments definitely came by chance, he didn't think nor did he use intelligence lol. Nairaland forum came by chance.
I eat by chance, my digestive system works by chance, nutrients are transported through my body by chance, I excrete by chance.

Brother some people's sense have been blurred

There is no thinker of thoughts, that's the work of the mind.
You have a mind, you are not a mind.

Aemmyjah:


Lemme ask you 2 questions but I'll answer 1 and leave the other.

Do you have a brain? Yes
Is your brain a product of accident or intelligent design? Yes or No
(Note that one answer would imply you brain is not correct )

This is a weak attempt at a false dichotomy. If you want to know how dumb the question sounds, replace the word "brain", with "god"

Let me help you.

Do you have a god? Yes
Is your god a product of accident or intelligent design?

That's how your question sounds.

Maynman:

There is no thinker of thoughts, that's the work of the mind.
You have a mind, you are not a mind.

I know you said that by chance.

cornelboy:

I know you said that by chance.

Existence and Non Existence go together like front and back.
Who created non Existence?

Maynman:

Existence and Non Existence go together like front and back.
Who created non Existence?

What you're asking doesn't make any sense. Oh it came by chance.

cornelboy:

What you're asking doesn't make any sense. Oh it came by chance.

How will you know Existence without non Existence?
Please look up definition of "create", what does it say?

You are just regurgitating "by chance" since.
You said it yourself that your god has no beginning, was your god not existing?
That means Existence does not have a beginning. Educate your mind.

Maynman:

How will you know Existence without non Existence?
Please look up definition of "create", what does it say?

You are just regurgitating "by chance" since.
You said it yourself that your god has no beginning, was your god not existing?
That means Existence does not have a beginning. Educate your mind.

Oh you mean existence is a person or an entity. Hope I got that by chance?

cornelboy:

Oh you mean existence is a person. Hope I got that by chance?

What's a person?
Person means mask, the mask you wear outside to portray a particular personality.
Alan watts once said, "how to be genuine person means how to be a genuine fake".
You have a personality, you are not it.

Maynman:

What's a person?
Person means mask, the mask you wear outside to portray a particular personality.
Alan watts once said, "how to be genuine person means how to be a genuine fake".
You have a personality, you are not it.

Did all these your philosophies come by chance?
Or else show me evidence that everything you're saying is the truth.

cornelboy:

Did all these your philosophies came by chance?
Or else show me evidence that everything you're saying is the truth.

Philosophy means love of wisdom.
Did non Existence came by chance?
What exactly did your call god "create"?

Maynman:

Philosophy means love of wisdom.
Did non Existence came by chance?
What exactly did your call god "create"?

Define non existence

cornelboy:

Define non existence

Define "create", I asked you earlier.

What exactly did your god "create"?

Maynman:

Define "create".

Bye