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Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Onuh2020(m): 11:58am On Oct 02, 2023
It is not about the level of Educational requirements but lying about the diploma. The requirement is just to be educated to secondary level which even a testimonial from any secondary school would do. We hope it did not turn out to be what they are thinking.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:02pm On Oct 02, 2023
AntiChristian:
Too much wahala on Westin no concern us!

BAT get first class yet you said he forged his result!
But it's confirmed he attended the institution and graduated with honours!

Obi get BSc with third class yet prefersed to use SSCE.
He's cleaner than BAT but with a poorer result, exposure and result while being a governor for 8years!

Cry more and more. Why not take Obi to court as Atiku did to your drug master if you have your evidence. Someone did the right thing, instead of waiting for the outcome to ascertain if he is guilty or not, you're here crying like a fowl.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Dubetex96(m): 12:02pm On Oct 02, 2023
Monday60655:
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God bless you massively


Bless you too we must always keep the record straight not minding whose ox is gored

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Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by JetApartment: 12:02pm On Oct 02, 2023
casualobserver:


What you displayed is your ignorance. Back in the day many people studied privately and obtained GCE outside of the school system. I don’t know if it still happens ( I am. Sure it does) but In fact it was very common until the 80s/90s that students would do WASC via their schools aand do GCE exams privately. It was common for even those of us in the formal school sector to do the GCE exams in the December preceding our WASc the following June. The added advantage was that you had 2 sources of results/certificates you could use to satisfy university entry requirements. This often came in handy if WASC did not release your result in a subject or you failed to get a credit in a subject in WASC but you had already passed it in GCE. I did both.

Not everybody has WASC because not everyone went to formal school. GCE is outside the school system, you can study and sit for GCE at home without ever going to school. Even today, there are people in countries like the US and the Uk who do not go to formal schools and are “homeschooled”.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling

Afe Babalola is an example of someone who studied privately and sat for his exams privately in order to gain the O level or a level results required to gain admission to university in London.


Finally his diploma from Arthur Daley college is the equivalent of WASC or SSCE.

There is a reason the term “or equivalent” is used in the constitution.

Just imagine your senseless defence, why didn't Tinubu present his GCE or any if he did obtained it as an alternative to SSCE?...the more you agbadorians try to defend Tinubu the dafter you sound....grin grin grin grin

btw, judging from your English you finished school but it is either you are not educated enough to detect a lie or choose to defend fraudulent Tinubu because he is your brother.

Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:05pm On Oct 02, 2023
Jostoman:
i blame people wey dey answer you. I have told them to always ignore your nonsense constitution argument but they wont listen.

Do you mind the dumb nincompoop. He don't know that impeachment only arises when the capability of the seating president is questionable. But here, the question is, was he(Tinubu) qualified in the first place to contest the election if he found guilty of certificate forgery? Which the answer is no.

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Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Basicend: 12:08pm On Oct 02, 2023
Father4all:
If he is guilty of forgery, he will be impeach automatically because forgery is a Criminal offence. A forger is a guilty as Felony

Lol. . Impeached by who? Akpabio and cronies... ?
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:08pm On Oct 02, 2023
ButterBerry:
Yes the minimum requirement is SSCE but that doesn't mean if you by any means submit other documents that it can't be investigated.

So it's better you submit only SSCE instead of unnecessary pride by providing Heaven and earth just to boast your ego.

If you submitted Ph.D along with your SSCE, and the Ph.D is fake, even if the SSCE is valid, the Ph.D can remove you from the sit because of your perjury.

Same reason Buhari Submit only SSCE.

That's just the fact, but some dumb nincompoop won't use their brain.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by casualobserver: 12:11pm On Oct 02, 2023
JetApartment:


Just imagine your senseless defence, why didn't Tinubu present his GCE or any if did obtained it as an alternative to SSCE?...the more you agbadorians try to defend Tinubu the dafter you sound....grin grin grin grin

are you an illiterate or were you just dropped as a child and hence suffering from brain damage?

The reason Tinubu did not submit his alternative to SSCE is the same reason Obi did not submit his degree. They are not required to, you are only required to submit a certificate of your choice that meets the minimum requirement.

many Nigerians (apart from those with obvious brain damage like you) need to go back to school to learn English. "Minimum" means school certificate or above if you like you submit GCE or equivalent, if you like submit OND,HND, Bachelors masters doctorate degree, if you like submit all, all you need is one that satisfies the requirement. Again even if you dont have school certificate the constitution says "or its equivalent" Section 318 (reproduced below) specifically defines what constitutes "school certificate or it's equivalent".


Contrary to ignorant and uninformed opinion, "school certificate" is not secondary school certificate. According to the constitution, primary school certificate plus 10 yrs work experience is equivalent to school certificate. Furthermore it states categorically that if you don’t have a certificate of you can prove you ATTENDED secondary school up to school certificate level, you have met the requirements

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Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:12pm On Oct 02, 2023
SmartPolician:


This is not true. If the Supreme Court cannot kick out the president, why are politicians going to tribunal and the SC to challenge the outcome of the presidential election? The SC can kick out the president if the justices have enough grounds to do so.

By the way, no legislature can impeach a Nigerian president. That law is something that's beautifully written on paper that doesn't work in real life.

Don't mind him, he is out of his senses. Impeachment arises when the capability of the seating president is questionable. But in this matter, the question is, was he (Tinubu) qualified to contest the election in the first place if he is found guilty of certificate forgery? Which the answer is no Incase he is guilty.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by casualobserver: 12:14pm On Oct 02, 2023
Elsueno:


Ok, let's say he did the home schooling thing...where is d man GCE, why didn't he used dat..That's d issue with trying to overimpress, Man could have simply submitted his GCE or whatever(if it exists) and keep bragging about his so called first class CSU cert & he would have easily gotten away with it

First of all he doesnt have GCE, his equivalent to GCE is what he used to gain admission to CSU, which is his diploma from Arthur Daley College

Secondly, he does not have to submit his GCE even if he had one. His degree is above the minimum qualification, why are you not asking why Obi did not submit his degree? ..because he does not have to.

See my post above in response to the r3tard who asked a similar question.

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Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by LIGHTROOM: 12:15pm On Oct 02, 2023
Curse777:


Hope you understand Constituitional provisions of impeachment of a president

A commander in chief, can only be removed by Legislative Arms 2/3 majority of both houses, after Judiciary members conduct panel of investigation to get an offense


Who is talking about impeachment here?
You don't need the Senate to remove a president who has no primary, secondary School certificate but claim he graduated from Chicago state University. Lying under oath is a criminal offense punishable under the law
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:16pm On Oct 02, 2023
aremubabs:





Minimum requirement is an SSCE.




But Tinubu went and tendered a bachelor's.





It is what you tendered that would be scrutinized. If found that he forged the certificate, his electoral victory would be overturned as a form of disqualification.





People who tendered only SSCE will be taken as possessing only SSCE and would be scrutinized based on their SSCE. People like Sowore have only SSCE (as far as INEC is concerned) even though Sowore has a master's degree. No one will drag Sowore over the legitimacy of a bachelor's or master's degree that he did not tender.

God bless you massively. Some dumb nincompoop can't use their brain.

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Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by themanderon: 12:16pm On Oct 02, 2023
Saskay44:
Requirement for Nigeria election is an SSCE certificate. What happens if Tinubu is accused of forging his university certificate since its not a requirement.


Only secondary school is needed but he lied under oath that he has a certificate he does not have which is a serious crime known as perjury.
If our corrupt judiciary doesn't remove him and jail him for that then the senate should commence impeachment proceedings against him. This is how they do it in serious minded countries of the world where the crime of perjury is not joked with but over here knowing the kind of questionable people ruling and making laws for us........
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:16pm On Oct 02, 2023
codedguy1:


Shallow minded agbadorians.

Did he present any ssce/wasc/GCE result?

Ask the dumb nincompoop again and again
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:20pm On Oct 02, 2023
Sojourner1976:

Even if nothing absolutely can be done to him, the moral burden and question will always be there.
Imagine what the international community will think of Nigeria?
Have you bothered that other leaders will begin to avoid him once it's confirmed he forged his certificate?

Tinubu isn't good for the image of Nigeria.

In a sane country, if he is found guilty, then was not qualified in the first place to contest the election. Assuming we have an unbiased judicially in this country, the needful would have been done if he is guilty.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:23pm On Oct 02, 2023
LollyP94:


Lol, which part of the act states that Oga Lawyer?

Mr man he told you the bitter truth. Then you can go and make your research, or are you so dumb to that extent?
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Monday60655(m): 12:26pm On Oct 02, 2023
Mindlog:


Why submit Oluwole certificate?

Do you mind him. This dumb nincompoop should then go and bring his Oluwale to come and Nigeria.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Godszilla: 12:28pm On Oct 02, 2023
Naturetony1:
All of you defending a constitution which made it possible for an ordinary SSCE holder to be a president have not for once reasoned why it's not so in every other aspects of employment. For you to become a manager or climb to a senior management level in most companies and even some government parastatals you need SSCE and a degree (HND/BSC) at least, yet you're here defending why a president's university degree authenticity shouldn't be questioned. Nigerians are indeed their own problem..

Nigeria is a mental institution,an asylum
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by deyplay: 12:30pm On Oct 02, 2023
Curse777:
Absolutely nothing


The appeal court justices already explained that to PDP, they are only wasting their time on frivolities
forgery and lying under oath is the usefulness
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by JetApartment: 12:43pm On Oct 02, 2023
casualobserver:


are you an illiterate or were you just dropped as a child and hence suffering from brain damage?

The reason Tinubu did not submit his alternative to SSCE is the same reason Obi did not submit his degree. They are not required to, you are only required to submit a certificate of your choice that meets the minimum requirement.

many Nigerians (apart from those with obvious brain damage like you) need to go back to school to learn English. "Minimum" means school certificate or above if you like you submit GCE or equivalent, if you like submit OND,HND, Bachelors masters doctorate degree, if you like submit all, all you need is one that satisfies the requirement. Again even if you dont have school certificate the constitution says "or its equivalent" Section 318 (reproduced below) specifically defines what constitutes "school certificate or it's equivalent".


Contrary to ignorant and uninformed opinion, "school certificate" is not secondary school certificate. According to the constitution, primary school certificate is also a school certificate equivalent, if you have 10 yrs work experience in addition

Mugu, you said SSCE which is a minimum requirements is not necessary that Tinunbu "homeschooled" and obtained GCE, now your argument is "school certificate". Has it not occurred to your empty skull that the only "school certificate" your fraudulent brother submitted is an "Oluwole Certificate" because the lies of attended non existence primary and school was bursted in the 2003 hence he only submitted a forged certificate.

Has it not also occurred to your empty skull that a "first class" graduate is fighting not to have his "first class" revealed for the world to see.

You are just and educated illiterate with a demented brain, you lack the mental capacity to think for yourself.

The more you defend Tinubu the more stvpid you sound.

Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by casualobserver: 12:47pm On Oct 02, 2023
JetApartment:


Mugu, you said SSCE which is a minimum requirements is not necessary that Tinunbu "homeschooled" and obtained GCE, now your argument is "school certificate". Has it not occurred to your empty skull that the only "school certificate" your fraudulent brother submitted is an "Oluwole Certificate" because the lies of attended non existence primary and school was bursted in the 2003 hence he only submitted a forged certificate.

Has it not also occurred to your empty skull that a "first class" graduate is fighting not to have his "first class" revealed for the world to see.

You are just and educated illiterate with a demeted brain, you lack the mental capacity to think for yourself.
The problem with people like you is your parents were too poor to afford condoms and too poor to properly educate the consequence of their 5minutes of raging hormones. Unfortunately they have flooded the country with r3tards as a consequence.

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Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Ken4Christ: 12:49pm On Oct 02, 2023
DominusPrime:

Constitutionally it is against the law and punishment is removal. Or you suggest we should not follow the constitution? Even at the level of inec forgery is enough to disqualify a candidate.

Forgery is a criminal offense that attracts a jail sentence without the option of fine. But in Nigeria, the law is only made for the poor.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Uguruzik(m): 12:51pm On Oct 02, 2023
Curse777:
Absolutely nothing


The appeal court justices already explained that to PDP, they are only wasting their time on frivolities
But una oga no even get secondary school cert na, so me I'm only watching una oo
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by LollyP94(m): 12:54pm On Oct 02, 2023
Monday60655:


Mr man he told you the bitter truth. Then you can go and make your research, or are you so dumb to that extent?
South Easterners 💯
You guys are unfortunate!
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by princenaira(m): 1:00pm On Oct 02, 2023
Stupid question from a backward thinker.

Again, even if it's not a basic requirement, submitting a fake document is a criminal offence
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Legitgames85: 1:02pm On Oct 02, 2023
Saskay44:
Requirement for Nigeria election is an SSCE certificate. What happens if Tinubu is accused of forging his university certificate since its not a requirement.
it's not a requirement but if u must tender it don't lie about it.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Mcslize: 1:02pm On Oct 02, 2023
Saskay44:
Requirement for Nigeria election is an SSCE certificate. What happens if Tinubu is accused of forging his university certificate since its not a requirement.

It's what he tendered they will use. The question now is, what certificate did Tinubu tender? Is it an SSCE? Of course no.

No matter how you guys want to justify him, he had committed a big criminal offense by tendering a forged Chicago University Certificate.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by TheGift: 1:04pm On Oct 02, 2023
Curse777:
Absolutely nothing


The appeal court justices already explained that to PDP, they are only wasting their time on frivolities

You just hear want you want to hear. Did Tinubu submit even SSCE certificate? Is there no longer any academic qualification requirement in Nigeria?

Even if appeal court were to say it doesn’t matter if Tinubu lied;does that sound like a sane judgement to you? Shouldn’t we all be baffled that Tinubu fought tooth and nail for His records to not be released?

https://www.tekedia.com/tinubus-baffling-desperation-to-block-the-release-of-his-academic-record-at-chicago-state-university/

https://gazettengr.com/just-in-i-didnt-attend-primary-secondary-schools-my-university-certificates-stolen-by-unknown-soldiers-tinubu-tells-inec/
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by casualobserver: 1:05pm On Oct 02, 2023
Monday60655:


God bless you massively. Some dumb nincompoop can't use their brain.


Let me explain this thing to you because many of you comment without knowing the facts. CSU has already confirmed before the court in the US that the certificate presented to INEC by Tinubu is genuine and issued by them. They have confirmed that he attended and graduated from CSU. it is because CSu has confirmed Tinubu's certificate that Atiku is fishing for his entire records in the hope he will find something.

However you people need to understand that as far a Tinubu's presidency and disqualification. You can only disqualify Tinubu based on what he submitted to INEC. If he did not present School certificate to INEC and you find school certificate in his CSU records, he cant be disqualified because he didnt tender it to INEC. Even if they find something, even if he lied on his admission form, it will dent his image but by law it will not stop him being president.

This is just noise to make the losers of the election go down fighting and extract their pound of flesh by any means neccesary because they both know (Obi and Atiku) they have missed their chance of ever being president of Nigeria.....ever!!!


https://saharareporters.com/2023/09/15/chicago-state-university-confirms-tinubu-attended-school-and-graduated-bachelors-degree

https://punchng.com/again-chicago-state-university-confirms-tinubu-graduated-in-1979/

https://guardian.ng/news/chicago-state-university-confirms-tinubu-graduated-in-1979/

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Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by Mcslize: 1:11pm On Oct 02, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Has it been proven and established that he committed any act of forgery? You are counting your eggs before they are hatched.

Last I checked, the school and issuing authority (CSU) did not denied him like jamb denied Mmesoma..

So, till now you want to tell us that you haven't heard that Tinubu stole a one Mrs Tinubu records? The woman in question got a PhD from Chicago State University. It's her certificate he forged as his.

And haven't you heard that the Judge they appealed denied Tinubu his claim and order Chicago State University to release all the records Atiku seek to him before on the 5th of October? Where have you been all these while that you ain't even following up this court case. You think Yankee Judges are like corrupt Nigeria Judges?


Let me help your life with the current info just in case you're still lagging behind of how far we've gone in this matter:

Tinubu Loses To Atiku With A Reprimand From Judge, Chicago Uni Ordered To Deliver Records, No Delay.

Source:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY_IOT95wXA&pp=ygUIbmVkbWVkaWE%3D
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by AK481(m): 1:17pm On Oct 02, 2023
What is the usefulness of a liar and certificate forger in the presidential election.
Re: What's The Usefulness Of A University Certificate In The Presidential Election by mayama(m): 1:18pm On Oct 02, 2023
As useless as the p in psychology

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