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"We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Africaflavour: 12:43pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
"We only pray with you and your family the third time we meet" Jehovah Witness lady Speak out Having conversations with a Jehovah Witness lady when she came to preach with a group of people in my neighborhood. A young man by name Godwin ask the young lady to pray before preaching to them but the young lady refused saying that before the leave the Kingdom hall that they had already pray, that she can't pray with them and that is.... Source: https://www.lejitreporters.com.ng/2023/10/we-only-pray-with-you-and-your-family.html?m=1 CC 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:00pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
It's a SIN to start praying the first time! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MightySparrow: 6:45pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: My friend in delusion, are you very sure that when you pray with other people Jehovah will not answer? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Emusan(m): 6:48pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Where was it written in the Bible? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MightySparrow: 9:04pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
Emusan: Emusan! So you don't know? Check below. Not only is it sinful to pray with sinners, they cannot pray for none members in their families. Their Jehovah will not answer them. In fact, they tell Jehovah whose prayers to answer. Luke.18.10 - Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. Luke.18.11 - The Pharisee (JWs) stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are , [b](pastorpreneurs) [/b]extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican [b](Trinitarians). Luke.18.12 - I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. I knock at people's doors weekly, manipulate scriptures to be a witness in Jehovah's intrest Luke.18.13 - And the publican other (denominations) , standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful ( recognizing their imperfections), to me a sinner. Thank God, Jehovah still answers us once in a while. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:11pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
Emusan:Can you quote where Jesus said his disciples should pray with or for the person they want to preach to? In fact his own words shows that he only pray with those that has believe in him! John 17:8-9 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Emusan(m): 9:21pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Where was it stated in the scripture is my question? Why using question to answer question? In fact his own words shows that he only pray with those that has believe in him! John 17:8-9 So where was it stated in the scripture that it's a sin? 3 Likes |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Janosky: 10:06pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
Emusan:Where was it written in your Bible that Jesus did so? 1 Like |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Emusan(m): 10:07pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
Janosky: You don't answer question with question. Since Watchtower forbids formal education, it's evident you people lack it. Answer my question JaNosense 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Janosky: 10:10pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
Emusan:Where was it written in your Bible that Jesus did so? Why are you making a rule when Jesus Christ did not? 2 Likes |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Emusan(m): 10:14pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
Janosky: You haven't answered my question. Why are you making a rule when Jesus Christ did not? I didn't make any rule, I simply asked question which you and your deluded brother never answer. Kindly show me where I make any rule... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Kobojunkie: 10:16pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
Africaflavour:OP, even your own Churchian practices are equally antichrist. I really don't know what you gain from these back and forth when all of your churchian groups are antichrist in your leanings. Take this situation for instance. Jesus Christ said that His followers are absolutely not to pray in public to the hearing of any person or where anyone can see 'em pray - Matthew 6 vs 6 -15. So, you who believe it right for you to pray in public on the first meeting and those of them who pray only after a third meeting are really both against Jesus Christ who made clear that such practice does not belong to Him or His Kingdom. So is the debate here to all in order to find out which group is the most superior in standing against Jesus Christ or what? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:52pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
Emusan:It's a sin doing God's work without following the WAY Jesus laid down! John 14:6 If you want to make àkàrà or fùfú there's no sin anyhow you go about it but preaching and teaching about God's kingdom everyone must follow Jesus' footstep. He said there's no prayers for those who hasn't accept us as God's representatives! John 17:8-9 compare to Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14 I know you're pained each time we quoted God's word with efficacy to prove ourselves so take heart we are the worshipers of the Bible God! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by achorladey: 7:21am On Oct 07, 2023 |
MightySparrow: 😂😂😂😂😂 1 Like |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by achorladey: 7:26am On Oct 07, 2023 |
Emusan: We should equally ask them who set the rule that says Jehovah’s witnesses should pray after the third time of meeting the householder 2 Likes |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by achorladey: 7:57am On Oct 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Starting with John 17 :8-9....... because I have given them the sayings that you gave me,and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me.9 I make request concerning them; I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those whom you have given me, because they are yours; Jesus was not even preaching and teaching in that account. Renders the point you are making out of it invalid Then same Jesus added.... “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word Those that are to put faith in him through the word of the disciples are still in where? Proverbs 28:9 The one refusing to listen to the law—Even his prayer is detestable. The assumed position Jehovah’s witnesses used here is that their householder are already turning their ears away from the law or are potential or seen already as law breakers so no need to pray first. They need to be taught keep the law first Jeremiah 11:14 As for you, do not pray in behalf of this people. Do not cry out in their behalf or offer a prayer for them, for I will not be listening when they call out to me because of their calamity Just like I said above the assumed position Jehovah’s witnesses have is that their householder no matter how they subject themselves to God and Jesus they see them as law breakers not to be prayed Now this will expose their madness and insanities peddling accompanied by lies and manipulations The same people they prayed for while at their kingdom halls before going to the place they live is the same people they call worldly not to be prayed for, law breakers while at their doorstep e.t.c Some will give or allow Jehovah’s witness to deliver the message they bring and then asked the Jehovah's Witnesses to pray before leaving. The Jehovah's Witnesses will still refuse to pray. The householder had listen carefully to whatever law they bring in their preaching and teaching work yet they cannot follow the standard they are using that those who don't listen to law their prayers are abomination. The laughable aspect is the Jehovah’s witnesses who are asked to prayer do not see themselves as law breakers? Do they? Cc Emusan, MightySparrow I know you're pained each time we quoted God's word with efficacy to prove ourselves so take heart we are the worshipers of the Bible God Na to peddle pains alongside your insanities and madness peddling accompanied by lies and manipulations of the scripture 3 Likes |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MightySparrow: 7:58am On Oct 07, 2023 |
achorladey: The Governing Body nah! I don't know whether or not the body has head o. Before, they used to have presidents. Now, everybody in the body is equal. 1 Like |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by achorladey: 8:09am On Oct 07, 2023 |
MightySparrow: their 9 GODS housed in USA They have a chairman every year. They rotate it amongst themselves. Robert Louis Ciranko (born March 9, 1947) is the current president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania (2014–), the ]principal corporation of Jehovah's Witnesses. Brooklyn, New York U.S. 1 Like |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MightySparrow: 8:11am On Oct 07, 2023 |
achorladey: The position of MaximumSide and his organization is that of spiritual overzealousness. The Jeremiah 11 he qouted is out of point. I have a thread in this section that asks about Law and Grace. There is nothing about it that concerns us, New Testament believers has not broken Mosaic covenant. But for the sake of argument and to present themselves holier than thou, they qoute scriptures out of context. It is all lies and hypocrisy. You can go back to the scripture yourself. In fact, incidentally, I am studying Jeremiah now. Even if it is, are they prophets? They claim they are not in their book Reasoning from the Scriptures. Did God send to pray for people ( sinners)? No! 3 Likes |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MightySparrow: 8:16am On Oct 07, 2023 |
achorladey: Okay, I think because Jesus didn't make any of His disciples a leader, ' New Lights ' forbid that. Or, maybe I am showing them the Latest Light 2 Likes |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by achorladey: 8:33am On Oct 07, 2023 |
MightySparrow: They like to show themselves as the overall in terms of interpretation of the scriptures. I laugh at them well well when they come and say others read the Bible without following the context They are masters at picking verses just to support already made policies and procedures of their religious organization without taking any look at the context. 1 Like |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by achorladey: 8:35am On Oct 07, 2023 |
MightySparrow: Many of the lies and manipulations they peddle on nairaland 2 Likes |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:35am On Oct 07, 2023 |
achorladey: He was PREACHING and TEACHING when majority of his disciples left him! John 6:66 So it was those that stick to him despite all his teachings that seems irritating to his contemporaries that Jesus prayed for he never prayed for all his listeners. That's according to what God's word said @ Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14 this shows that Jesus was strictly following the standard God set in the scriptures regarding whom we should pray with! Matthew 5:17 Over to you Sir! |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by achorladey: 8:46am On Oct 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: He was PREACHING and TEACHING when majority of his disciples left him! John 6:66 Ran away from John 17:8,9 and grab John 6 That is the summary of your post What did your religious organization states Jesus was doing in the screenshot attached below? Matthew 5:17 Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill. Jesus don't go about peddling lies and manipulations of the scripture by destroying the law and the prophet like you do Same Matthew 5: 43 You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor+ and hate your enemy.’ 44 However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies+ and to pray for those who persecute you,+ 45 so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens,+ since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous You don't even know what your beliefs stop packing lies and manipulations into your brains MightySparrow see MaxInDHouse making the same blunder of using Matthew 5:17 to peddle fraud that don't exist 2 Likes
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Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Emusan(m): 1:19pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: "Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." John 14:6 No where it is said to be sin to pray for people here. If you want to make àkàrà or fùfú there's no sin anyhow you go about it but preaching and teaching about God's kingdom everyone must follow Jesus' footstep. JUST A SINGLE VERSE where it was said that is a sin to pray for people is what I asked of you. Nobody asked you story Mr storyteller He said there's no prayers for those who hasn't accept us as God's representatives! John 17:8-9 compare to Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14 But you deluded people pray the third time. I know you're pained each time we quoted God's word with efficacy to prove ourselves so take heart we are the worshipers of the Bible God! Quoting God word or lying against God? You have never presented a single verse where it is stated that it a sin. Which means you lied against God and His word as usual. Misinformed hallgoer miscreant 1 Like |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:38pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
achorladey: God revealed to His prophet: No prayers for faithless miscreants! Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14 Jesus said he has not come to abolish what God revealed to prophets! Matthew 5:17 So he will not pray for or with faithless miscreants! John 17:8-9 That's what Jehovah's Witnesses in ancient times and today practice! |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Emusan(m): 1:41pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: But you prayed the third time, why? Deluded misinformed hallgoer miscreant 1 Like |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:46pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Emusan:Because the householder has accepted us as God's representatives sent to TEACH him or her so according to Jesus we must let our Peace reign with such a person by praying with him or her! Matthew 10:13 |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Emusan(m): 1:51pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Lying liar hallgoer miscreant! So the household accepted at the THIRD time 1 Like |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by Dtruthspeaker: 2:01pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
Ewoo person dey ask for demon to pray for them? Ah e own don finish patapata. |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by MightySparrow: 2:23pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: 2. I can see you have a pedigree. Are Jehovah's Witnesses's prophets? 2. So Jehovah asked you not to pray for Israel? You even are calling people Jesus bought with His blood miscreants. On whose authority? |
Re: "We Only Pray With You And Your Family The Third Time We Meet" Jehovah Witness L by achorladey: 2:26pm On Oct 07, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor+ and hate your enemy.’ 44 However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies+ and to pray for those who persecute you,+ 45 so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens,+ since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous You don't even know what your beliefs stop packing lies and manipulations into your brains MightySparrow see MaxInDHouse making the same blunder of using Matthew 5:17 to peddle fraud that don't exist God revealed to His prophet: You cannot even counter the post. So he will not pray for or with faithless miscreants! John 17:8-9 What was Jesus doing in that account? Teaching and preaching |
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